malvisguy212:
God bless you bro, I love your first post.

Op, I really wish you could take all the time you needed and read through this link,see how atheism is evil. Please my sister read it https://www.intellihub.com/darwinism-eugenics-and-the-silent-genocide/

I did take the time to read it, thank you. I have a feeling you didn't though
Seriously, we have a problem here if you don't know the difference between atheism and eugenics, and then come around with a text from a conspiracy theory website to make a point that remains mysterious to me. Try again.

Liekiller:


I did take the time to read it, thank you. I have a feeling you didn't though
Seriously, we have a problem here if you don't know the difference between atheism and eugenics, and then come around with a text from a conspiracy theory website to make a point that remains mysterious to me. Try again.

the very thing you accused christians of that's what you just did,go and read it and see for your self
.
Darwin was a respected man in atheism,right?
Let me past some interesting passages;

In Darwin’s time there was an idea
among the nobility that their genetics
were superior to those of the rest of
society. Many families including Darwin’s
took this belief to extreme levels by
practicing incest as a tradition.
They thought that if adolescents were to
marry within their own family then not
only would all the wealth stay in the
family, but the “good” genes would also.
This also ensured that the family
fortunes would be retained for many
future generations. This practice is very
common in aristocratic families, which
explains why they are all extremely
mentally unstable. Darwin came from a
very classist and racist elite level of
society and that is reflected in his work,
especially “The Descent of Man”.
One of the most famous cases of royal
incest is found in the Hapsburg dynasty
that produced rulers in Spain, Austria,
Hungary, Belgium, the Netherlands and
the German empire. Around 1700 the
Spanish branch of this empire fell apart
suddenly and died off.

The ruling class of every nation is
obsessed with breeding and is using the
best of our advanced technology and
medical science to guarantee that their
heirs will be somehow thoroughbred.
Since the aristocracy has been practicing
selective breeding for centuries they are
under the impression that they are
already of a superior stock to the rest of
humanity, thanks to the “care” that their
ancestors took in breeding. This is of
course just an egotistical delusion that
justifies their exploitative treatment
towards the rest of humanity.
Darwin’s other dehumanizing ideology is
his “survival of the fittest” mantra.
Darwin didn’t just come up with this
philosophy out of thin air, this was
actually an idea that has been
traditionally held by families of nobility
since before the Middle Ages. It was this
philosophy that the aristocracy used to
justify their inhumane treatment of the
serfs and peons that built their empires
and tended to their fields.

Liekiller visit the link for more

In a 1798 publication called “An Essay on
the Principle of Population” Malthus
suggested that planned food shortages
could be used to decrease the
population of the poor through
starvation. This was the root for the idea
of “population control”, because a large
population is very difficult for the elite to
manage while retaining their own wealth
and power. Malthus suggested that the
streets should be made narrower and
more people should be crowded into
living quarters to encourage conditions
that would bring back the plague. In that
same essay he said that villages should
be built next to stagnant pools where
germs could fester and all remedies and
cures would only be available to those
who could afford it.
In his own words
“we are bound in justice and honor
formally to disclaim the right of the poor
to support. To this end, I should propose
a regulation be made declaring that no
child born should ever be entitled to
parish assistance. This infant is
comparatively speaking, of little value to
society , as others will immediately
supply its place…All children beyond
what would be required to keep up the
population to this level must perish,
unless room be made for them by the
deaths of grown persons.” [1]
In so many words what he was
suggesting was establishing a national
limit on child births, and executing any
child that was born past that limit. In the
times of Malthus many elite circles were
publicly speculating that if the world’s
population were to exceed 3 billion
people there would be mass famine and
destruction of all the resources on earth.
Obviously, they were all very wrong.

Liekiller:


What makes you say that my unbelief is based on science?!? That statement is not accurate at all.

As for the science thread: The burden of proof is on you when it comes to evolution. If you think you can disprove something that the entire scientific community agrees on then go right ahead.

Wow! fantastic logic! because the "entire" scientific community agrees on evolution proves it's correct right?

Thugnificent:
Wow! fantastic logic! because the "entire" scientific community agrees on evolution proves it's correct right?

They agree on it because of the massive, overwhelming amount of EVIDENCE various fields of science have accumulated over the past 150 years. So, what I was saying is: if you want to "disprove" it, then you ought to deal with that evidence. It's not about making this claim or that claim based on personal preferences or beliefs.

Liekiller:


What makes you say that my unbelief is based on science?!? That statement is not accurate at all.

As for the science thread: The burden of proof is on you when it comes to evolution. If you think you can disprove something that the entire scientific community agrees on then go right ahead.

that makes zero sense... the burden of proof is on the believer to prove creationism and also prove the science that the atheist uses as a peg? What burden of proof does the atheist bear? Just showing up to be a vacuous nuisance?

Your last statement is typical of most of you... you waffle on about "science" yet when asked to state what exactly it is you mean you weasel away by using the fallacy of appealing to authority. The "entire" science community does not agree with evolution. I am part of that community and there are thousands more who do not believe the theory with good reason. its ok to say you dont know...

Liekiller:


They agree on it because of the massive, overwhelming amount of EVIDENCE various fields of science have accumulated over the past 150 years. So, what I was saying is: if you want to "disprove" it, then you ought to deal with that evidence. It's not about making this claim or that claim based on personal preferences or beliefs.

that is actually false. If you spent time here you would have seen threads robustly debating the so-called "evidence", much of which you clearly do not know anything about. All you have to offer is empty platitudes... if we asked you to come here and debate just one of such "evidence" you say exists, you couldnt.

Liekiller:


I did take the time to read it, thank you. I have a feeling you didn't though
Seriously, we have a problem here if you don't know the difference between atheism and eugenics, and then come around with a text from a conspiracy theory website to make a point that remains mysterious to me. Try again.

and i suppose you believe that evilbible.com is a credible website? What a joke.

Liekiller:


They agree on it because of the massive, overwhelming amount of EVIDENCE various fields of science have accumulated over the past 150 years. So, what I was saying is: if you want to "disprove" it, then you ought to deal with that evidence. It's not about making this claim or that claim based on personal preferences or beliefs.

There you go again spitting dogma. I challenge you to bring up one tiny scrap of evidence that shows that all living organisms evolved from a common ancestor.

Joshthefirst:
There you go again spitting dogma. I challenge you to bring up one tiny scrap of evidence that shows that all living organisms evolved from a common ancestor.

LOL it's all out there for everybody to evaluate. You can "challenge" me as much as you want - It's not my job to teach you biology. So why don't you provide a tiny scrap of evidence for your version of the story? Or is no evidence needed for that?

davidylan:


that is actually false. If you spent time here you would have seen threads robustly debating the so-called "evidence", much of which you clearly do not know anything about. All you have to offer is empty platitudes... if we asked you to come here and debate just one of such "evidence" you say exists, you couldnt.

of course I could. I'm actually a biologist. But I won't. It's not my job to teach you biology. I would go through the effort if it weren't such a waste of time. But you are not willing to look at and understand the evidence because your mind is made up that it can't be true because it contradicts your belief. You are free to believe whatever you wish of course. It's just funny that you keep asking for evidence (even though it's all published and there for everybody to see) but don't need any evidence to support your own belief.

davidylan:


and i suppose you believe that evilbible.com is a credible website? What a joke.

Firstly, I never claimed that it is a "credible" website, and I didn't use it as "evidence" for anything. I merely put a small part from it (that can be considered a point of view) on here for discussion. The website actually just lists reasons why the person who made the site considers the bible to be evil and doesn't believe in it. While I agree with the general conclusions drawn by this person, this is not "evidence" for or against anything. It simply describes alternative conclusions one can come to when reading the bible critically. Secondly, you are free to go to the website and check whether or not it quotes the bible wrongly.

Liekiller:


Firstly, I never claimed that it is a "credible" website, and I didn't use it as "evidence" for anything. I merely put a small part from it (that can be considered a point of view) on here for discussion. The website actually just lists reasons why the person who made the site considers the bible to be evil and doesn't believe in it. While I agree with the general conclusions drawn by this person, this is not "evidence" for or against anything. It simply describes alternative conclusions one can come to when reading the bible critically. Secondly, you are free to go to the website and check whether or not it quotes the bible wrongly.

Liekiller wonderful rebuttals,nice thread....you should also look into the foundational falshoods of creationism if you can...

davidylan:


you vigorously deny the existence of any god, but feel absolutely outraged when someone exposes the bankruptcy of your "scientific" alternative.



You howl about the silliness in religious blind faith, but have no problem in blindly believing what you read on atheists blogs, dressed up as "science" that you have never tested and have no clue if its true or not.



You laugh at religious people, but have no problem bowing at the altar of false science.



You wax lyrical about the "atrocities" of religious people, but turn bright red when anyone dares to remind you of the genocide committed by your favorite atheist leaders.



you laugh at the idiocy of religious beliefs, yet believe that the earth just magically appeared out of nowhere.



You spend your life ferreting on blogs to find little loopholes in religious beliefs (you are not even smart enough to come up with a list of your own, shame), but have no problem believing that you are a product of primordial soup.



You bat no eyelid at destroying religious people, yet whine that you're being condemned to a hell you claim not to believe in anyway.



You waffle on about modern science, yet ask you to explain how a simple theory is responsible for modern man and you start huffing and puffing.



You revile religious people for defining 0.01% as a high success rate, yet believe that a 1 in a zillion statistical chance that primordial soup will form RNA is "modern science".



you continue to perpetuate the laughable dribble that you know more about the bible than christians even though your "knowledge" is severely limited to copy-pasting weblinks... wonder what you would do if google did not exist.

lol... you whine about religion, yet virtually all your angst is always against christianity and nothing else... wonder why.

[size=14pt]Feel free to set up a thread just to talk about pure science, no religion... see how long you last.[/size]

Gbam!

Some of them think atheism is Science Smh!

davien:

Liekiller wonderful rebuttals,nice thread....you should also look into the foundational falshoods of creationism if you can...

Thanks Davien, good to have you on the thread I've been following you exposing the crooks (America's worst exports ever) if that's what you mean?

@ OP, go get ya life fixed!

Liekiller:



LOL it's all out there for everybody to evaluate. You can "challenge" me as much as you want - It's not my job to teach you biology. So why don't you provide a tiny scrap of evidence for your version of the story? Or is no evidence needed for that?

Sounds like dishonesty to me. If there's an overwhelming amount of evidence surely you should be able to put just a tiny one here and shame me forever.

Liekiller:


They agree on it because of the massive, overwhelming amount of EVIDENCE various fields of science have accumulated over the past 150 years. So, what I was saying is: if you want to "disprove" it, then you ought to deal with that evidence. It's not about making this claim or that claim based on personal preferences or beliefs.

Massive, overwhelming amount of evidence like?

Joshthefirst:
Sounds like dishonesty to me. If there's an overwhelming amount of evidence surely you should be able to put just a tiny one here and shame me forever.

It doesn't matter what it sounds like to you. If you don't know where to find scientific papers then you are obviously not the scientist you claim to be. Instead of me listing a million peer-reviewed original research articles that confirm evolution why don't you post just ONE peer-reviewed article in a reputable biology journal that disproves it. Just ONE is needed to make the whole thing collapse.

Thugnificent:
Massive, overwhelming amount of evidence like?

Learn biology.

Liekiller:


Learn biology.

Your ignorance is nauseating.

Empiree:
ma'am, pls stop embarrassing yourself. Why are you derailing this thread?. You don't understand verses you quoted. That God made earth "spread out like bed" doesn't make earth flat. Verses you quoted do not say "FLAT". You just threading religion you dont know it.

Chiedu7 u are right. . Mohammed thought the earth was flat. .u can Google for the hadiths that show this error in thinking by the prophet. .this is why Muslims are commanded to face the kabba in mecca during prayer so as not to point their butt.s to it. . However the joke is on Muslims because the earth is spherical hence their butt.s are pointed to it regardless..

Liekiller:



LOL it's all out there for everybody to evaluate. You can "challenge" me as much as you want - It's not my job to teach you biology. So why don't you provide a tiny scrap of evidence for your version of the story? Or is no evidence needed for that?

I hope u know the theory of evolution is just a theory and not fact or law...

U seem to be convinced it's proven...

chiedu7:
I BEG CHANGE YOUR NAME FROM LIEKILLER TO LIEKILLED

The devil has sold you a lie and it's has killed you but you just have not realized it.



Lets look at allah for one. allah say's if you catch me stealing you can cut off my hand.

Qur'an (5:38) - "As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands:
a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime.

Jesus say's let him without the first sin cast a stone.

John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them,
He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

So the Christian God is more compassionate than allah, hence cannot be the same.




It looks like your ability to think has been killed too.

If mankind evolved from other life forms, who made those originating life forms?



The Christian God is three unified in one.


1 John 5:7King James Version (KJV)

7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father, the Word (Jesus), and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.[/color]





allah murders people for no reason, yet goes around to say it is merciful.

Surah 9:5
When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them.
Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them.

In Exodus God had to hit the Egyptians if not they would not let the Jews go.




DUMBASS, the Holy Spirit did not impregnated Mary.

He simply placed Jesus in her would.





DUMBASS, the bible says man has been on earth for around 7000 years now, not the age of the earth

Between Genesis 1:1 and 1:3 is a long time not documented.

The bible does not say how long God moved over earth in verse 2.

The first day was not until verse 3

Genesis 1 (KJV)
1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
3 And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.





God being righteous will judge sinners, dont you think that God should judge sinners ?

Thats why Jesus died for you and I, so that if you confess Him you will be saved from you inherent foolishness.

Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead,
thou shalt be saved.



You trust science that first said the earth was flat,
while the bible documented that God sits above the circle of earth thousands of years ago.

Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth , and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers;
that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

Then the allah you say we should consider say's earth is flat like a bed.
If allah is God of course it would know that the earth is round and not flat.

Surah 2:22
[He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out]




When you are not there when they pray,
and your not there when God answers.

how can you tell the percentage God answered.





If atheists and agnostics read the Bible, they's know that the bible refers to them as FOOLS

Psalm 53:1
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they


I CHARGE YOU WITH KILLING COMMON SENSE

Very nice reply...
As an agnostic liekiller will continue to doubt and attack christainity... In Islam agnostics and atheists are beheaded. .

Liekiller:


Learn biology.

What do you know about Biology? Smh!

doubleDx:


What do you know about Biology? Smh!

I happen to have a PhD in it. And what's your qualification in the field?

Ifeann:



I hope u know the theory of evolution is just a theory and not fact or law...

U seem to be convinced it's proven...

I hope you know what the meaning of the word "theory" in science is?

Liekiller:


I hope you know what the meaning of the word "theory" in science is?

Yes i have written research papers and have 2 degrees.

U are quite an unintelligent skeptic. ..


Have you heard of the theory of gravity. ....nah u haven't ... it's the law of gravity.... there is no law of evolution. ..

Thugnificent:
Your ignorance is nauseating.

My ignorance in what please? If you consider a PhD in biology nauseating ignorance then I guess that's your problem, not mine. See how you start foaming from your mouth and showering hatred on me because I don't give in to your attempts to waste my time posting stuff that is published and accessible to whoever wants to learn about it. As I have said before: if you argue against evolution (which happens to be pure biology), then the burden of proof is on YOU to provide hard BIOLOGICAL evidence in support of your point. Hating me doesn't disprove evolution, sorry.

Ifeann:


Yes i have written research papers and have 2 degrees.

U are quite an unintelligent skeptic. ..


Have you heard of the theory of gravity. ....nah u haven't ... it's the law of gravity.... there is no law of evolution. ..

degrees in what? apparently not biology. Funny how you just assume that I haven't heard about this or that.

Liekiller:


degrees in what? apparently not biology.

No my friend not in biology but u know what the general scientific community say about theses things!

Ifeann:


No my friend not in biology but u know what the general scientific community say about theses things!

Oh yes, I actually do know what the general scientific global community says about these things. I happen to be a member of it (in biology).