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Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Soso990240(m): 4:20pm On Feb 20, 2015
bushdoc9919:
It is not that those of us asking questions about the Army being deployed for elections have ulterior motives (which is possible).

The issue is why is our police so incompetent...that we need to take away soldiers who could be better employed in dealing with Boko Pigeons...to come and police elections.

I am sorry.....but this situation means our police force is in crisis. Time we fixed it.

And rigging will not stop with the Army being there. Rigging is a problem that extends far beyond who is running security for the country....and it has to do with the profitability of elective office.
Na today we knw say Police dey incompetent? Since they 've nt changed,wat ar we to do? U want to hear dat 150 has been killed durin election in a state.We hav nt voted wit cardreader before,so,we dnt knw wat may come up during d election.d presence of d military will do us no harm.D police alone cnt secure us,it has been like dat since the existence of nigeria.Talk about insurgency(boko haram),talk about violence during election,talk about political thugs..abeg,we need d army during election at d polls.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by queensmith: 4:27pm On Feb 20, 2015
tolustx:
I still don't understand it wen pple say d presence of soldiers intimidate dem as voters. Soldiers were also @ Osun but we hear no noise dat they were used for rigging because APC won. 2 oda states held elections b4 Ekiti and soldiers were also used. APC won in both states and we heard no noise. Why is it d one dat PDP won dat now brought all dis noise and reference. Let's point to d word of d soldiers in d state elections dat APC won too and let's balance dis discussion.
Cheers
#LongLiveFederalRepublicOfNigeria
Actually the Osun elections followed the Ekiti one, and the only reason they were unsuccessful is because the Captain leaked the tape to the opposition prior to those elections taking place. It's all in the interview.

There is evidence PDP camps started their illegal process by putting one of the military heads on compulsory leave, if you have the word of the soldiers from other states please post it here so we can see.

and I will hope trouble makers are intimidated that is the point of the uniform after all - or were there riots in Osun following the elections?
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by PLEXPLEX(m): 4:57pm On Feb 20, 2015
IT IS ONLY THE FOOLISHLY BLIND THAT LL NOT SEE THAT APC IS THE SPONSOR OF EVERYTHING EVIL IN THIS NATION.

THEY R SO STUPIDLY FOOLISH TO THINKING THAT PGEJ IS THE CHANGE WE MUST DO.

HOW FOOLISH & BLIND CAN SOME PEOPLE BE NOT TO HAVE RECOGNIZED GOD SENT TO NIGERIA?

APC & GMB R BOKO HARAM OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD KNOW THAT NIGERIA IS IN WAR BUT SINCE THEY R THE ONES BURNING,BOMBING & KILLING Y WOULD THEY REALIZE WE R IN WAR? THEY WOULDN'T REASON Y THEY DON'T NEED THE AIMED SOLDIERS ON ELECTION DAY
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by PLEXPLEX(m): 5:14pm On Feb 20, 2015
Kolade354:
A Resounding NO- If we are not ripe for democracy then the millitary should take over..............Federal govt is just using those securrity operative to harass opposition party,This happened in my state osun-state and its bound to happen in this general election.
RUBBISH! DIDN'T THE APC MAN WON?

I WISH U R LIVING IN THE NORTH EAST OR NORTH WEST THEN I LL TAKE U SERIOUSLY
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Aystarz: 5:20pm On Feb 20, 2015
Op, why do I feel like you work at Nigeria Info?
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by micrep3030(m): 5:31pm On Feb 20, 2015
Even geja want them
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Eluwilussit(m): 5:48pm On Feb 20, 2015
jorlons:
As a Honourable member of Nairaland house of parliament representing APC zones.

I've to say this decision ordinarily should be NO. As the primary functions of the NA does not include providing internal security during elections. Also recent involvements of the NA in partisan politics brings much fears to the heart of opposition parties as to how the army will conduct themselves @ each polling unit during the election.

At the same time the Police and other civil defence agencies are almost useless to the Nigerian society which leaves us with no other choice.

In light of these challenges, the assistance of the NA is required to fortify the security of the electorates. Afterall the Life of Nigerians is more important.

However, the number of military personnel deployed should be far lesser compared to other security agencies. The DHQ should be smart enough not to weaken our defence against BokoHaram.
Every bit of this, is so true. It is so unfortunate that we can't simply vote and go home without a fight. It is shameful that things have come to this, where we are so eager to waste human life. We are no longer our brothers' keepers.It hurts.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Nobody: 6:00pm On Feb 20, 2015
FOLYKAZE:
Oga Ade stop your backward thinking and death wish.


Why do we have mobile police and riot police?

The securities were compromised in '11 and not doing there job enough by protecting those that were killed in the post election violence. This is a riot, violence and not war. Why on earth cant you differentiate between this?

The defence force has division in which each division has a task operation. Violence eruption is the duty of police to stop. That is what they are trained for. Riot is not war.

Bringing soldier on board would be equivalent to intimidation and scare tactic. We have enough men in the civil defence. We have enough men in riot police and their task is well defined.

You people should stop bending the law for your selfish interest. Soldiers are been compromised and turning to bomboy because of politics. They shouldnt be political escort and taking order from silly civilian. The constititution and court of law do not allow soldiers to be deplyed for election. It is illegal, only those not abiding by the law and have hidden agenda of rigging election would want them deploy otherwise.

If there is a riot, police should do the job they are paid for; hence commisioners of the state and IG should be probe for taking failed men into a task.


We say no to soldiers, they are meant to fight war and not provide security ( a police job) on election. They are not to be see wondering around but stay in their barrack.
u guys aint in a war situation n you got bombs n suicide bombers blowing folks up in da north,huh? U guys are in a very tense situation n da bh are still spitting venom over da elections...so u rabble bla blas n apc rogues shud quit distracting governance n da hardworking president....he takes advice from his service chiefs,nsa,secret agents,....not from rogues n online psychos....so like i said earlier,u gonna know better if u guys are in a war situation after some bomber blown off n rain ur arsse over town....
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by jorlons(m): 6:27pm On Feb 20, 2015
Eluwilussit:
Every bit of this, is so true. It is so unfortunate that we can't simply vote and go home without a fight. It is shameful that things have come to this, where we are so eager to waste human life. We are no longer our brothers' keepers.It hurts.
I'm an APC supporter but I cannot support them on this one. I know part of the reason they're calling for the non-involvement of the military is related to ''Ekitigate'' but total withdrawal of the army will be disastrous. Our police force is just too weak.

As much as I'd love to be optimistic that the elections will hold peacefully, I have to speak frankly about the very volatile situation in some parts of Plateau and Rivers state. As in those two states are soaked in fuel as it were and I fear the election is the spark lighter.

Lagos has also had it's share of violence. The NE is another red hot region.

I wonder the region that hasn't suffered pre-election violence already.

I don't know why our PF will be this weak but when it comes to collecting #20 naira they're very strong.

For me No MILITARY No VOTING.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by elklehamite(m): 6:33pm On Feb 20, 2015
Those kicking against the use of military during election should be seen as the enemy of Nigeria nation. Those against the uses of the military during election should be seen as having ulterior motives. Those kicking against the use of military during election wants a repetition of 2011. They wants to use their supporters/thugs to kill corpers the same way they did in 2011. Are members of the armed forces not Nigerians? Police and Civil Defence are not expressly empowered to shoot like the military during crisis situation. I know that so many people and me in particular will not go out on election day to vote especially in the north where I am that some group of people do not have regards for life if the military are not allowed to be used. How many of those politicians kicking against the uses of the military during election today have their children in Nigeria to be killed during the said election. People should shine their eyes as is not all those people or politicians calling themselves progressives are actually progressives as they are out desperately for their selfish interest.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Nobody: 6:36pm On Feb 20, 2015
FOLYKAZE:
Oga Ade stop your backward thinking and death wish.


Why do we have mobile police and riot police?

The securities were compromised in '11 and not doing there job enough by protecting those that were killed in the post election violence. This is a riot, violence and not war. Why on earth cant you differentiate between this?

The defence force has division in which each division has a task operation. Violence eruption is the duty of police to stop. That is what they are trained for. Riot is not war.

Bringing soldier on board would be equivalent to intimidation and scare tactic. We have enough men in the civil defence. We have enough men in riot police and their task is well defined.

You people should stop bending the law for your selfish interest. Soldiers are been compromised and turning to bomboy because of politics. They shouldnt be political escort and taking order from silly civilian. The constititution and court of law do not allow soldiers to be deplyed for election. It is illegal, only those not abiding by the law and have hidden agenda of rigging election would want them deploy otherwise.

If there is a riot, police should do the job they are paid for; hence commisioners of the state and IG should be probe for taking failed men into a task.


We say no to soldiers, they are meant to fight war and not provide security ( a police job) on election. They are not to be see wondering around but stay in their barrack.
again,total bulshiit..da presidentssgot da exclusive preserve to decide whether or not to deploy da military during elections or on any other events..no arssehossgonna put da lives of nigerians on da line waving one goddamm court bulshiit....
Again i repeat,u gonna know better if u guys are in a war situation or not after some bomber blows off n rains ur arsse over town....
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:38pm On Feb 20, 2015
Rexxie:
total bulshiit..da presidentssgot da exclusive preserve to decide whether or not to deploy da military during elections or on any other events..no arssehossgonna put da lives of nigerians on da line waving one goddamm court bulshiit....
Again i repeat,u gonna know better if u guys are in a war situation or not after some bomber blows off n rains ur arsse over town....
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by olami234lekan(m): 6:53pm On Feb 20, 2015
perculiarperson:
It would be quite unsettling to hold elections without the armed forces present as some Nigerians have lost all sense of decorum and grown so barbaric. Some Nigerians no longer have any form of scruples. They are not able to place their temperaments in check or act with civility while discussing passionate issues. How would you expect them to conduct themselves properly at the polling booths?

The military is civil and know better than to oppress anyone. We have seen them carryout their duties at the polls in Ekiti and Osun maintaining the peace with respect for citizens.

I think APC is looking for a chaotic atmosphere to execute some form of mischief that I cannot put my finger on at the moment. They won in Osun with the military on ground and the results and court judgements have been in their favour. They say they are progressives... wouldn't they want citizens to remain alivehuh So why would they not want all our force men to be on ground to ensure this?

Regardless of whether the army is constitutionally permitted or not I think they should be deployed for the elections... It is very important that the citizens who are the electorate are alive to be governed and not left to chance to survive or be alive.

Looking at the current state of our Police and how unorganised and uncoordinated they could be, it is difficult for people to place their trust in them. Police men were at the booths in 2011 when terrible horrors took place at the booths in the north to both corpers and civilians alike.

I hope our President will do what is right and allow the military to be at the polling units nationwide...

Thank you.
I can't help but wonder why we all reason like this if police and other civil security agencies cannot perform there constitutional duties I wonder why we are wasting billions on them month after month, now we are talking about a president that violate constitution by using military for election deceiving you all that it is all in the name of protecting its citizen and most of those in support of this action are surely the first to condemn Buhari's suspension of the constitution immediately he took over then now tell me this government hasn't suspend constitution with various cases like ekiti house scenario, governor's forum case and many others known to us all. This is democracy and constitution is absolute that is forbidden for any Democratic nation will respect if they intend to prosper. And have we ever wonder what percentage of our earning goes to this politician and what percentage goes to civil servants. Everything they are doing is madness and unconstitutional just like in the era of shagari. We should stop encouraging them to violate our constitution. Our police is effective before they started using them for other things that they are not meant for and rendering them useless today and now see what our military is turning to when they start using them unconstitutionally ekiti rigging tape meanwhile they can't crush insurgents. I will stop here for another day.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by FOLYKAZE(m): 6:55pm On Feb 20, 2015
Rexxie:
total bulshiit..da presidentssgot da exclusive preserve to decide whether or not to deploy da military during elections or on any other events..no arssehossgonna put da lives of nigerians on da line waving one goddamm court bulshiit....
Again i repeat,u gonna know better if u guys are in a war situation or not after some bomber blows off n rains ur arsse over town....
You are making fool of yourself and this gilberish you have above in not making any sense.

According to the law, deployment of soldier for election is illegal.

Soldiers have special assignment which is battling external war enemy and defending the territory. In case of violence and eruption of riot, it is the duty of mobile/riot police to fall in. The civil defence also have their constitution right. When soldiers are doing the job of a police, it mean police are deride of the task they are paid for.

2011 post election violence is a riot and not war. It is the duty of police and civil defence to stop that. That is what they are trained and paid for.

President is under the law and should abide by the lay down rule. We know Nigeria to be a lawless and disorganised nation headed by a president that feel no concern about the law of the land. There is a court pronouncement that laid a rule that election must not be militarize. The court made us understand that it is illegal. If Jonathan insist on militarisation of election then we have to agree he doesnt respect the rule of law. A rule of law breaker does not worthy to be a leader.

And again stop scaring people with bomb or death. People die from every means and that does not mean we should deploy soldiers to every sphere of life like you think.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Nobody: 7:09pm On Feb 20, 2015
FOLYKAZE:
You are making fool of yourself and this gilberish you have above in not making any sense.

According to the law, deployment of soldier for election is illegal.

Soldiers have special assignment which is battling external war enemy and defending the territory. In case of violence and eruption of riot, it is the duty of mobile/riot police to fall in. The civil defence also have their constitution right. When soldiers are doing the job of a police, it mean police are deride of the task they are paid for.

2011 post election violence is a riot and not war. It is the duty of police and civil defence to stop that. That is what they are trained and paid for.

President is under the law and should abide by the lay down rule. We know Nigeria to be a lawless and disorganised nation headed by a president that feel no concern about the law of the land. There is a court pronouncement that laid a rule that election must not be militarize. The court made us understand that it is illegal. If Jonathan insist on militarisation of election then we have to agree he doesnt respect the rule of law. A rule of law breaker does not worthy to be a leader.

And again stop scaring people with bomb or death. People die from every means and that does not mean we should deploy soldiers to every sphere of life like you think.
again as always, total bulshiit..everyone knows,even my dogs do too, what the constitution says about the deployment of the military during elections...and everyone knows,even my dogs,that the president has got the sole authority,as da C'n'C, to deploy da military anywhere his designated security n secret agencies advices him to,especially volatile n restive areas....
Are u so brain dead that u find that hard to understand!
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Eluwilussit(m): 7:44pm On Feb 20, 2015
jorlons:
I'm an APC supporter but I cannot support them on this one. I know part of the reason they're calling for the non-involvement of the military is related to ''Ekitigate'' but total withdrawal of the army will be disastrous. Our police force is just too weak.

As much as I'd love to be optimistic that the elections will hold peacefully, I have to speak frankly about the very volatile situation in some parts of Plateau and Rivers state. As in those two states are soaked in fuel as it were and I fear the election is the spark lighter.

Lagos has also had it's share of violence. The NE is another red hot region.

I wonder the region that hasn't suffered pre-election violence already.

I don't know why our PF will be this weak but when it comes to collecting #20 naira they're very strong.

For me No MILITARY No VOTING.
NPF is a joke. I agree with your positions today. I hope you will be this frank in every issue. Thanks for your contributions and remain blessed.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by fr3do(m): 8:57pm On Feb 20, 2015
Anthony20:
If what we strive for is a society where things are done RIGHT. We can not be talking about SOLDIERS to police election. In Ghana, Niger and even Gunea and Cemeroon Soldiers were never invited for electoral purposes. Why Nigeria? The ruling party the PDP have perpetrated huge rape against INEC and the Nigeria populace. They have been using soldiers to rig elections. With the New Card readers soldiers will make little or no impact.
1. Ballot Snatching will be worthless
2. Attacking Poling centers to pick INEC staff will be worthless too
3. Writing FAKE result will make no IMPACT
So tell me what will the soldiers be there to do?
Scare Innocent voters?
I support APC call for No soldiers during election. Our fate has always being in our hands.
We provide
1. Water
2. Electricity
3. Security etc
For ourselves what make this different?
The military are constitutionally assigned to keep peace by defending our boarder in that they fave failed with BH issue so they should go there and fight BH and leave us alone. Nigeria is Great
This is just loose talk!
You do not care for the lives of Nigeria just your political interest.
Soldiers weren't deployed in the last Ghanaian elections, so what? Do they have electoral violence like we do.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by mrrock: 9:19pm On Feb 20, 2015
With the security situation in the country boko haram will turn the election day to slaughter day without soldiers manning every ward nationwide. They've already threatened people not to go out to vote because they will be coming.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Kolade354(m): 10:46pm On Feb 20, 2015
Ahmeduana:
TYPICAL JAN-JA-WEED! WHAT THEY CANNOT EAT WITH THEIR MOUTH THEY WILL RATHER DESTROY IT WITH THEIR LEGS SO NO ANY OTHER PERSON CAN EAT IT, EITHER UNA LIKE OR UNA NO LIKE NA 100 BATTALIONS WE GO SEND GO EACH STATE OF THE SOUTHWEST, NORTHWEST AND NORTHEAST!
The last time I check nigeria constituition the millitary has no part in election process............
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by Kolade354(m): 10:48pm On Feb 20, 2015
PLEXPLEX:
RUBBISH! DIDN'T THE APC MAN WON?

I WISH U R LIVING IN THE NORTH EAST OR NORTH WEST THEN I LL TAKE U SERIOUSLY
He won simplt because the pple Love him and see his gud work...............I repeat Millitary has nothing to do with election..........If we are not ripe for democracy then the millitary shld take over.
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by barristerholy: 10:07am On Feb 21, 2015
We need soldiers in this election ,why is it that some party are afraid of soldiers,bcoz they av plan on how to carry ballot box ,they said they need police bcoz the can easily manover police,as the did at oshodi fight 2days ago ,they even chest police away ,we don't need a dying man ..... Sai GEJ
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by PLEXPLEX(m): 5:38pm On Feb 21, 2015
Kolade354:
He won simplt because the pple Love him and see his gud work...............I repeat Millitary has nothing to do with election..........If we are not ripe for democracy then the millitary shld take over.
Ok we r not ripe, so u r saying that our chances of becoming ripe for democracy is better under the military than in a democracy?
Re: Should Soldiers Be Deployed For The 2015 Elections? by jamace(m): 6:26pm On Feb 21, 2015
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