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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:47pm On Mar 06, 2015
Obiagelli:


This is what i don't understand, there are many past governors with tens of corruption cases in court but Tinubu has non at the moment, yet he is the "face" of corruption on the street. Mention Tinubu and the next word you hear is corrupt.


Its fear of the Unknown from the Killer party. Tinubu is like a politically moving train that seems impossible or difficult to stop by the killer party. Their only weapon is to demonised him to the people hoping that the people will revolt against him and all what he stands for. Tewonde George and Obanikoro and the chief players in this game to rubbish his reputation.
However, they are failing. Yorubas are much more sophisticated than that. They are sensible and asking the right questions like if he is so guilty, he then is he walking free.
These and many are some of the questions SaTANists cant answer.
Though like any other typical politician, Jonah-daft inclusive, Tinubu is no saint but its difficult not to accept that in this country as at today, no politician has the kind of clout he has.
Let Tinubu decamp to PDP and see dem fools talking rubbish now worship him.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:47pm On Mar 06, 2015
Billyonaire:
Corruption Prevention, is better approach. Fighting corruption is more difficult, except the government and citizens are ready to lose. Let me explain; Tinubu uses surrogates to acquire state and communcal assets. For example, Professor Osinbajo is a director in Alpha Beta, and I knew Osinbajo to be Tinubu's errand runner years before Tinubu nominated him as Buhari's running mate. Osinbajo is one of Tinubu's many surrogates. As we type this, we have hundreds of lawyers rushing into CAC to edit names of Directors of Tinubu's many surrogates to fictituous names to hide ownership structures.

One of the area called Lafiaji, the side facing the ocean opposite Chevron. Fashola has single-handedly taken over entire hectars of land bordering the entire stretch of the ocean, and the machinery used in earth moving is guarded by security. There is no way, citizens can access these areas. What is happening in Lagos is wholesale theft, by professional land thieves in government. They own the gazette, they mark land as they want, they put restrictions where ever they want and they take it. It is not a Federal Jurisdiction, so Federal Government has no rights here. Federal Government can only expose, it is for Lagosians to understand that though they live in marshes and mud. The glasses houses that line the 2 sides of their streets are bought and own by Tinubu and his allies with the help of Fashola with the IGR they are forced to pay alongside the Federal Allocation.
This quite interesting, alpha beta for instance collects Lagos taxes, i don't know if they did under Tinubu (that will be corruption at its peak) but they also collect taxes for other state governments too. It is business if you ask me because a lot of politicians around the world expecially those out of office run businesses like this.

I have no evidence about land grabbing but i know TVC's complex belongs to laspotech, i know that very much. That i why i asked is it greed or propaganda or even both.

Thanks for your insight though
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by IVORY2009(m): 12:49pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


Does this mean Tinubu's alleged boys (NURTW) attacked them and another Tinubus confirmed boy (FASHOLA) went in to bail them? This doesnt make sense to me.

listen, what I am saying is that, @ first they were arrested and taken to the station, but Fashola has to intervene and eventually they were released, perhaps Fashola knows he would be found guilty if he fails to do so, due to the personality of those arrested, Kate and co. My thought.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:49pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


Its fear of the Unknown from the Killer party. Tinubu is like a politically moving train that seems impossible or difficult to stop by the killer party. Their only weapon is to demonised him to the people hoping that the people will revolt against him and all what he stands for. Tewonde George and Obanikoro and the chief players in this game to rubbish his reputation.
However, they are failing. Yorubas are much more sophisticated than that. They are sensible and asking the right questions like if he is so guilty, he then is he walking free.
These and many are some of the questions SaTANists cant answer.
Though like any other typical politician, Jonah-daft inclusive, Tinubu is no saint but its difficult not to accept that in this country as at today, no politician has the kind of clout he has.
Let Tinubu decamp to PDP and see dem fools talking rubbish now worship him.

Tinubu has been proven to have become politically irrelevent.The elections in Ondo and ekiti confirmed that.Aregbesola won osun on his own strength and his victory has got nothing to do with Tinubu.Oyo and Lagos are likely to fall on Aprill 11 as well.The only SW state APC might have after may 29 would most likely be ogun
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:50pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


Its fear of the Unknown from the Killer party. Tinubu is like a politically moving train that seems impossible or difficult to stop by the killer party. Their only weapon is to demonised him to the people hoping that the people will revolt against him and all what he stands for. Tewonde George and Obanikoro and the chief players in this game to rubbish his reputation.
However, they are failing. Yorubas are much more sophisticated than that. They are sensible and asking the right questions like if he is so guilty, he then is he walking free.
These and many are some of the questions SaTANists cant answer.
Though like any other typical politician, Jonah-daft inclusive, Tinubu is no saint but its difficult not to accept that in this country as at today, no politician has the kind of clout he has.
Let Tinubu decamp to PDP and see dem fools talking rubbish now worship him.
This is interesting and i tend to agree. Expecially with the fact that he walks freely.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:50pm On Mar 06, 2015
joeyfire:


Yep. Worsened by lousy leadership of bola tinubu who harnessed it for political gain and became an ethnic champion
How? Please.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by presido1: 12:51pm On Mar 06, 2015
seunfly:

We should have asked our presido why he has not get him arrested and tried for corruption instead of sponsored Ducumentary.
The same reason Fash refused to arrest JK for tax aversion.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:51pm On Mar 06, 2015
chukwudi44:

even IBB has no pending court case but everyone knows he is corrupt.Tinubu and IBB are the most intelligent theves in the history of Nigeria

Ibofool, IBB is Jonah-daft father and a member of the PDP so it is understandable if the drunkard chooses not to investigate him.
Tinubu is in the opposition and the one of the main core people that wants the fool booted back to Otuoke, what reason does he has to shield him?

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:53pm On Mar 06, 2015
chukwudi44:

even IBB has no pending court case but everyone knows he is corrupt.Tinubu and IBB are the most intelligent theves in the history of Nigeria
You have got a point but i remember Tinubu faced the code of conduct bureau
BTW
IBB is the pdp and Tinubu is not. How the government has no case against their thorn other videos.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Rad1cal: 12:55pm On Mar 06, 2015
Obiagelli:

Your opinion

Pretender
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:55pm On Mar 06, 2015
Billyonaire:
Do you live in Lagos ?
Of course i do and somewhat close to the activities of these people.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by IVORY2009(m): 12:55pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


[color=#99000]Ibofool, IBB is Jonah-daft father and a member of the PDP so it is understandable if the drunkard[/color] chooses not to investigate him.
Tinubu is in the opposition and the one of the main core people that wants the fool booted back to Otuoke, what reason does he has to shield him?[/b]

This man here has been paid to write for a perticular political party.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:57pm On Mar 06, 2015
Billyonaire:
The states are APC states, and part of the agreement Tinubu signs with any politician when he is financing them is to accept that Alpha Beta will be used for revenue generation. It works. I have no beaf with Alpha Beta as a company, but I have beaf with not using the due process and legal bidding process. Tinubu forced Alpha Beta on Lagos, there was no adverts for companies to vie for collection of revenue. This is fraud.

Wrong, Akwa Ibom and enugu are not Apc state, check the list i posted again.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:57pm On Mar 06, 2015
Obiagelli:

This quite interesting, alpha beta for instance collects Lagos taxes, i don't know if they did under Tinubu (that will be corruption at its peak) but they also collect taxes for other state governments too. It is business if you ask me because a lot of politicians around the world expecially those out of office run businesses like this.

I have no evidence about land grabbing but i know TVC's complex belongs to laspotech, i know that very much. That i why i asked is it greed or propaganda or even both.

Thanks for your insight though

What happens in Laspotech complex especially the one in Ikosi (this i know very well) happens all over the states of the federation including Abuja.
Laspotech was moved to Ikorodu and the land in ikosi was sold off to citizens the core of which were politicians.
Come to Akwa Ibom and see politicians buy off juicy lands. It happens all over here in the Niger delta. It happens in Abuja where politicians have also purchased off the juicy lands. No one can claim to be ignorant of this. Like i said, none of them are saints

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by ibedun: 12:59pm On Mar 06, 2015
Bunch of Igbo- bastards!!

Useless morra-fockers why dont you go back and complain about Kalu and the likes in your father's states.

Tinubu's positive impact has been felt by all bonafide lagosians not the awful squarters.

Our bitter igbo losers pay your taxes and let Ashiwaju do as he wishes in his father land!!!
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Alphaoscar: 12:59pm On Mar 06, 2015
@ Obiagelli, This issue is multi dimensional and part of the problem rest with Tinubu himself while the Opposition are also trying to politicize some of his flaws for political gains.


We can't rule the possibility of him ever cutting some shady deals for himself but it is very glaring that the oppositions are trying everything possible to get the face of Tinubu out of the political terrain because they the man is a massive threat to their aspiration and like Buhari the best way to get him out is to sponsor all manners of real and unreal propaganda against him.


Tinubu as a man never hide his interest in TVC, The Nation, First Nation Airline and some couple of businesses which is not too much to achieve if you are a very smart businessman with a name. Take the Issue of Alpha Beta as an example, the arrangement between the company and the LASG( even though the company is still carrying out its businesses in some PDP controlled states without anybody raising eyebrows and you begin to wonder what makes Lagos states case different) is a legal and acceptable practice in the Business world but because the company is owned by Tinubu (a frontline politician) people are always expected to raise eyesbrow even should the company be discharging its services free of charge to the LASG.

Another angle is that people believed he's stayed too long as the leading opposition figure and people as usual are getting bored and they will be expecting to taste another variety even if he's done nothing wrong , people are tend to be jealous, desire another new face calling the shot, badbelleism, Pull him down syndrome etc.


The last is the man himself. Is practice of been at the forefront all the time, putting mostly his trusted allies in every political position available including his family members are some of the problems associated with the brand Tinubu.


It should be noted however that his positive contribution to the Nigerian project far far outweigh his flaws and we should just imagine an opposition elements without the never say die spirit, political sagacity and tactical input of a Tinubu against the evil called PDP.


NB: Typo errors are regretted cos I typed all this on the motion and no time to edit.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:59pm On Mar 06, 2015
Rad1cal:


Pretender
Na you sabi. I am laying and asking others to lay facts. This thread is to assist neutrals form opinion.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 12:59pm On Mar 06, 2015
chukwudi44:


Tinubu has been proven to have become politically irrelevent.The elections in Ondo and ekiti confirmed that.Aregbesola won osun on his own strength and his victory has got nothing to do with Tinubu.Oyo and Lagos are likely to fall on Aprill 11 as well.The only SW state APC might have after may 29 would most likely be ogun

Ibofool, proven by who and what? Even if this is so , why single him out from the various thieves especially the silent ones for propaganda? Ur fear wont allow u to accept the bare truth. Shame.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:00pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


Ibofool, IBB is Jonah-daft father and a member of the PDP so it is understandable if the drunkard chooses not to investigate him.
Tinubu is in the opposition and the one of the main core people that wants the fool booted back to Otuoke, what reason does he has to shield him?

Did the new APC hero Obasanjo prosecute IBB when hew as head of state?

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:00pm On Mar 06, 2015
Obiagelli:

This quite interesting, alpha beta for instance collects Lagos taxes, i don't know if they did under Tinubu (that will be corruption at its peak) but they also collect taxes for other state governments too. It is business if you ask me because a lot of politicians around the world expecially those out of office run businesses like this.

I have no evidence about land grabbing but i know TVC's complex belongs to laspotech, i know that very much. That i why i asked is it greed or propaganda or even both.

Thanks for your insight though
Alpha Beta is owned by Tinubu via his proxies. No one is asking you to believe, its public knowledge. Alpha Beta started collecting revenues at 15% when Tinubu was Governor of Lagos State. When Fashola took over, he contested the continuous use of Alpha Beta, then Tinubu bribed the entire State House to alienate themselves from Fashola. When Fashola realize he was losing governorship to threat of impeachment, he joined the gang, and negotiated for 10% for Alpha Beta and that's what's remitted now. What baffles us is the fraud within Alpha Beta - Government House. During Tinubu's era, they hide books and state that they collect just about 20 billion annually, then how come today the revenue stands at hundreds of billions ? Wholesale theft by the man who supervises corruption.

I live in Lekki, and I know their assets. But it is not my business. I am not a native Lagosian and there lies the problem. Most people here are not native Lagosians, the communities are very poor and powerless. For some of them community leaders, if you buy them a Range Rover, they will give you hectars of land in exchange. So Fashola and Tinubu have no resistance. All they do is just allocate lands and gazzette them to themselves. Most of the plots are not even gazetted, its like manna from heaven for Tinubu and Fashola. Does anyone know why Fashola isnt bothered about going to Senate or any other political posts ? The assets are just too much, he needs time to manage them and hide them properly. Money from senate is nothing compared to the Lekki Dynasty that these mouth smelling poor health maniacs control.

I am jealous of their corrupt enrichment. I work for mine, but they dont work for theirs, and guess what ? It is outside Federal Jurisiction, so Lagosians have to fight for their souls. Some other political party can salvage Lagos from Tinubu, but he is a trillionaire, he can bribe the devil himself.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by ibedun: 1:00pm On Mar 06, 2015
ibedun:
Bunch of Igbo- bastards!!
Useless morra-fockers why dont you go back and complain about Kalu and the likes in your father's states.
Tinubu's positive impact has been felt by all bonafide lagosians not the awful squarters.
Our bitter igbo losers pay your taxes and let Ashiwaju do as he wishes in his father land!!!
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:01pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


Ibofool, proven by who and what? Even if this is so , why single him out from the various thieves especially the silent ones for propaganda? Ur fear wont allow u to accept the bare truth. Shame.

Tinubu has no eelctoral value anymore.You will see what will happen during the next elections.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by IVORY2009(m): 1:03pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


Ibofool, proven by who and what? Even if this is so , why single him out from the various thieves especially the silent ones for propaganda? Ur fear wont allow u to accept the bare truth. Shame.

paid agent as usual, defend wat he is saying, and not attacking him with insults!

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:04pm On Mar 06, 2015
deemdeem:


What happens in Laspotech complex especially the one in Ikosi (this i know very well) happens all over the states of the federation including Abuja.
Laspotech was moved to Ikorodu and the land in ikosi was sold off to citizens the core of which were politicians.
Come to Akwa Ibom and see politicians buy off juicy lands. It happens all over here in the Niger delta. It happens in Abuja where politicians have also purchased off the juicy lands. No one can claim to be ignorant of this. Like i said, none of them are saints
Absolutely true, that is why i said Tinubu's case is a combination of greed and propaganda.

I would like Billyonaire and MizMyColi's take on this if they don't mind
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by ibedun: 1:04pm On Mar 06, 2015
Billyonaire:
Alpha Beta is owned by Tinubu via his proxies. No one is asking you to believe, its public knowledge. Alpha Beta started collecting revenues at 15% when Tinubu was Governor of Lagos State. When Fashola took over, he contested the continuous use of Alpha Beta, then Tinubu bribed the entire State House to alienate themselves from Fashola. When Fashola realize he was losing governorship to threat of impeachment, he joined the gang, and negotiated for 10% for Alpha Beta and that's what's remitted now. What baffles us is the fraud within Alpha Beta - Government House. During Tinubu's era, they hide books and state that they collect just about 20 billion annually, then how come today the revenue stands at hundreds of billions ? Wholesale theft by the man who supervises corruption.
I live in Lekki, and I know their assets. But it is not my business. I am not a native Lagosian and there lies the problem. Most people here are not native Lagosians, the communities are very poor and powerless. For some of them community leaders, if you buy them a Range Rover, they will give you hectars of land in exchange. So Fashola and Tinubu have no resistance. All they do is just allocate lands and gazzette them to themselves. Most of the plots are not even gazetted, its like manna from heaven for Tinubu and Fashola. Does anyone know why Fashola isnt bothered about going to Senate or any other political posts ? The assets are just too much, he needs time to manage them and hide them properly. Money from senate is nothing compared to the Lekki Dynasty that these mouth smelling poor health maniacs control.
I am jealous of their corrupt enrichment. I work for mine, but they dont work for theirs, and guess what ? It is outside Federal Jurisiction, so Lagosians have to fight for their souls. Some other political party can salvage Lagos from Tinubu, but he is a trillionaire, he can bribe the devil himself.

Waka come Igbo bast*rds, go and deliberate on what is happening in your father land (aka sh*t hole)
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:04pm On Mar 06, 2015
Obiagelli:

This is interesting and i tend to agree. Expecially with the fact that he walks freely.

This is an undisputed fact. Its a full knockout to whatever anyone thinks or say.
The core reason why this is so is because virtually all the allegations against him are baseless.
For almost a decade now, Tewonde George , Obanikoro and Ogunlewe has been working so hard to nail him but no show.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:04pm On Mar 06, 2015
chukwudi44:


Tinubu has been proven to have become politically irrelevent.The elections in Ondo and ekiti confirmed that.Aregbesola won osun on his own strength and his victory has got nothing to do with Tinubu.Oyo and Lagos are likely to fall on Aprill 11 as well.The only SW state APC might have after may 29 would most likely be ogun

Ibofool, proven by who and what? Even if this is so , why single him out from the various thieves especially the silent ones for propaganda? Ur fear wont allow u to accept the bare truth. Shame.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:04pm On Mar 06, 2015
IVORY2009:


listen, what I am saying is that, @ first they were arrested and taken to the station, but Fashola has to intervene and eventually they were released, perhaps Fashola knows he would be found guilty if he fails to do so, due to the personality of those arrested, Kate and co. My thought.

Perhaps he and his godfather also knew nothing about it and chose to do the right thing. Think Broad.
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:06pm On Mar 06, 2015
ibedun:


Waka come Igbo bast*rds, go and deliberate on what is happening in your father land (aka sh*t hole)

I am also a Lagosian, I am a concerned Lagosian. My home state is in safe hands, I want Lagos also in safe hands not in Tinubu's.

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Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:07pm On Mar 06, 2015
chukwudi44:


Did the new APC hero Obasanjo prosecute IBB when hew as head of state?

Ibofool, Even FFK and Muazu still said they will go back and beg Obj so its right to also say that OBJ still remain Pdp's hero if not for anything but for the fact that he is a former head of state.
OBJ and IBB are military men, above all they both belonged to PDP when he was President so its the same issue
Re: Tinubu From Hero To ?? Where Did It All Go Wrong. by Nobody: 1:08pm On Mar 06, 2015
opiaoku:


Thunder scatter your mama head there

Hopless bastard son of a rabid dog

Produce of a rotten kunt, why dont u just face topic.

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