Alphaoscar:
@ Obiagelli, This issue is multi dimensional and part of the problem rest with Tinubu himself while the Opposition are also trying to politicize some of his flaws for political gains.


We can't rule the possibility of him ever cutting some shady deals for himself but it is very glaring that the oppositions are trying everything possible to get the face of Tinubu out of the political terrain because they the man is a massive threat to their aspiration and like Buhari the best way to get him out is to sponsor all manners of real and unreal propaganda against him.


Tinubu as a man never hide his interest in TVC, The Nation, First Nation Airline and some couple of businesses which is not too much to achieve if you are a very smart businessman with a name. Take the Issue of Alpha Beta as an example, the arrangement between the company and the LASG( even though the company is still carrying out its businesses in some PDP controlled states without anybody raising eyebrows and you begin to wonder what makes Lagos states case different) is a legal and acceptable practice in the Business world but because the company is owned by Tinubu (a frontline politician) people are always expected to raise eyesbrow even should the company be discharging its services free of charge to the LASG.

Another angle is that people believed he's stayed too long as the leading opposition figure and people as usual are getting bored and they will be expecting to taste another variety even if he's done nothing wrong , people are tend to be jealous, desire another new face calling the shot, badbelleism, Pull him down syndrome etc.


The last is the man himself. Is practice of been at the forefront all the time, putting mostly his trusted allies in every political position available including his family members are some of the problems associated with the brand Tinubu.


It should be noted however that his positive contribution to the Nigerian project far far outweigh his flaws and we should just imagine an opposition elements without the never say die spirit, political sagacity and tactical input of a Tinubu against the evil called PDP.


NB: Typo errors are regretted cos I typed all this on the motion and no time to edit.

deemdeem:


This is an undisputed fact. Its a full knockout to whatever anyone thinks or say.
The core reason why this is so is because virtually all the allegations against him are baseless.
For almost a decade now, Tewonde George , Obanikoro and Ogunlewe has been working so hard to nail him but no show.

IVORY2009:


paid agent as usual, defend wat he is saying, and not attacking him with insults!

chukwudi44:


Tinubu has no eelctoral value anymore.You will see what will happen during the next elections.

Obiagelli:


Clients
Lagos State Government
Kwara State Government
Nassarawa State Government
Akwa Ibom State Government
Abia State Government
Imo State Government
Kano State Government
Ondo State Government
Sokoto State Government
Abuja Environmental Protection Board
Enugu State Waste Management Authority
Enugu State Ministry of Environment and Mineral
Resources
Ekiti State Government
Lagos Water Corporation
Airtel (Formally Zain)
The Republic of Ghana
www.alpha-beta.net/clients.htm

deemdeem:


Lackey, am sure ur hypocritical eyes didnt see that the fool was the first to call me name and not the other way round. I only returned it to him

opiaoku:


Thunder scatter your mama head there

Hopless bastard son of a rabid dog

Obiagelli:

Absolutely true, that is why i said Tinubu's case is a combination of greed and propaganda.

I would like Billyonaire and MizMyColi's take on this if they don't mind

IVORY2009:


No! He has since stopped, discuss with him, no name calling, dat is why dis is a forum.

opiaoku:


Product of dog's sperm
Thunder fire your mama and papa there

Hopless nonentity
Son of a rabid dog And a harlot mother
Otu nne i

deemdeem:

Produce of a rotten kunt, why dont u just face topic.

Billyonaire:
Alpha Beta is owned by Tinubu via his proxies. No one is asking you to believe, its public knowledge. Alpha Beta started collecting revenues at 15% when Tinubu was Governor of Lagos State. When Fashola took over, he contested the continuous use of Alpha Beta, then Tinubu bribed the entire State House to alienate themselves from Fashola. When Fashola realize he was losing governorship to threat of impeachment, he joined the gang, and negotiated for 10% for Alpha Beta and that's what's remitted now. What baffles us is the fraud within Alpha Beta - Government House. During Tinubu's era, they hide books and state that they collect just about 20 billion annually, then how come today the revenue stands at hundreds of billions ? Wholesale theft by the man who supervises corruption.

I live in Lekki, and I know their assets. But it is not my business. I am not a native Lagosian and there lies the problem. Most people here are not native Lagosians, the communities are very poor and powerless. For some of them community leaders, if you buy them a Range Rover, they will give you hectars of land in exchange. So Fashola and Tinubu have no resistance. All they do is just allocate lands and gazzette them to themselves. Most of the plots are not even gazetted, its like manna from heaven for Tinubu and Fashola. Does anyone know why Fashola isnt bothered about going to Senate or any other political posts ? The assets are just too much, he needs time to manage them and hide them properly. Money from senate is nothing compared to the Lekki Dynasty that these mouth smelling poor health maniacs control.

I am jealous of their corrupt enrichment. I work for mine, but they dont work for theirs, and guess what ? It is outside Federal Jurisiction, so Lagosians have to fight for their souls. Some other political party can salvage Lagos from Tinubu, but he is a trillionaire, he can bribe the devil himself.

deemdeem:


Seriously, its more of Propaganda than greed. Every human has the tendency to acquire more and more and more. If its done in the right way and not true fraudulent means, who am i to say such is greedy. No doubt, his political clout has made him av an edge over his contemporaries, its a worldwide phenomenon in any capitalist nation.
Go to Abuja and see the old clark making waves just because his son Jonah-daft is in power.
Come to Bayelsa and see Osei Clever, Jonah-daft cousin making wave in the city just because his brother is in power.
Come to PH and see shepopo extending her stupity simply because her husband is president.
[b]Above all, most of the proceeds Tinubu seems to be acquiring are used to fight our collective enemy which is the killer party. That is pricey. Honestly, i have no other reason to like him than this.[/b]

Obiagelli:

Na you sabi. I am laying and asking others to lay facts. This thread is to assist neutrals form opinion.

IVORY2009:


It means u are even agreeing that Tinubu collected monies illegally? And his using it to fight back, is that wat you saying?

OLADD:


I don't know much about the veracity of your claim but I am very particular about Lagos which is my immediate constituency. It's absolute fraud for the statutory tax collection function of Lagos State Inland Revenue Service and the associated income to be divested into the hand of a former governor in the name of revenue mobilisation. How can a whopping sum of N2.5b be taken up by Tinubu on montly basis? Why is Lagos state still keeping LIRS since they have now been made redundant?

deemdeem:


Where in the post u qouted did u read what u stated? Do u have comprehension issues?

IVORY2009:


kindly check your last post.

deemdeem:


Seriously, its more of Propaganda than greed. Every human has the tendency to acquire more and more and more. If its done in the right way and not true fraudulent means, who am i to say such is greedy. No doubt, his political clout has made him av an edge over his contemporaries, its a worldwide phenomenon in any capitalist nation.
Go to Abuja and see the old clark making waves just because his son Jonah-daft is in power.
Come to Bayelsa and see Osei Clever, Jonah-daft cousin making wave in the city just because his brother is in power.
Come to PH and see shepopo extending her stupity simply because her husband is president.
Above all, most of the proceeds Tinubu seems to be acquiring are used to fight our collective enemy which is the killer party. That is pricey. Honestly, i have no other reason to like him than this.

Rad1cal:




Abeg waka go far with your propaganda

Obiagelli:

Absolutely true, that is why i said Tinubu's case is a combination of greed and propaganda.

I would like Billyonaire and MizMyColi's take on this if they don't mind

Obiagelli:


You are doing great justice on this thread for the anti Tinubu side, i agree Tinubu owns alpha-beta and it is fraudulent to award tax collection to his own company but do you have a problem with the arrangements with alpha-beta? It's a case of pure outsourcing and many more States have adopted this method irrespective of the party and some of them even use alpha-beta.
Like i said earlier a lot of politicians around the world use proxy or direct business to get government contracts

About the land things, i would like to ask if the same thing isn't happening in Abuja and in GRAs around Nigeria.

Though my biase is obvious, i am trying to be as neutral as possible.

Obiagelli:

Waka from my thread?

Obiagelli:

You ain't substantiating anything, i ask again is alpha-beta also stealing taxes from other states?

Obiagelli:

The case of gej's farm comes to mind and i have seen several pictures of houses belonging to his wife, not to talk of the fight with turai.

Obiagelli:

You ain't substantiating anything, i ask again is alpha-beta also stealing taxes from other states?

anonimi:


So glory be to God, AllahuAkbar.


Abeg wey the deliverance team, someone is in urgent need for a serious session here.

deemdeem:


Produce of a rotten kunt, why dont u just face topic.

Obiagelli:

Well said. I was hoping to get a take from PassingShot and gbawe. You have done justice to this thread.