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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Nobody: 3:19pm On Mar 10, 2015

Henry120:

They recently captured malam fotori and damasak. malamfotori the same town these clowns claimed to have captured in january.

Particularly striking is the convenience with which the western media seems to leave out that piece of information.

As long as it doesn't fit into their orchestrated narrative of the Nigerian military been corrupt, under-equipped and incompetent, it isn't a good piece of news.

Nigerian troops in green, chadian troops in desert camouflage, but some how, it is the Nigerians that are under-equipped.

My brother, this is obviously a training op and not real action. Further, the Nigerian troops here are obviously special forces and cannot be taken to represent the generality of Nigerian troops. For one, you and I know that almost all Nigerian soldiers are equipped with Kalashnikov 47s, and not the Tavor Bullpup rifles these guys are using.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by SirShymexx: 3:23pm On Mar 10, 2015

deskossy:
sir,i still think expertise matters, granted the Nigerian army morale was low though it's improving now with their recent success. .NA has never fought this type of warfare b4..3yrs in,i think they've improve. In terms of the terrain they still gat work to do..damn the terrain is brutal though.
You know the tuaregs has been fighting the Malian govt fo decades right? They weren't crushed overnight but with d help of d coalition..

Everything basically just shows how incompetent the Nigerian military is. That particular terrain is part of Nigeria, and a proper military trains its forces adaptations to all the different terrains within its border for things like this one. Just take a look at how the US, Russia, China, UK etc. are constituted.

Then when the proper insurgency started - a proactive country/military that cares about winning would've consulted Algeria, a country not far away, with a decent military that understands the terrain - and has dealt with something similar, but more brutal in the past - for assistance (I talked about that in the past). However, they didn't. Guess what they're doing now? - they're getting mercenaries from South Africa - mercenaries who don't understand the terrain and will end up getting roasted like they did during the Sierra Leonean war.

Furthermore, there has been no effort whatsoever to acquire the proper heavy weapons required for the war. And the coordination is utter poor. Without the Chadians who care more about their own national integrity and trading routes for the survival of the poor country - they'd still be perambulating with no progress whatsoever, while wasting the lives of the decent people in the military. These folks don't care about winning any war - just a bunch of incompetent twerps with primitive and utterly dumb propaganda machine.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by authority2006(m): 3:25pm On Mar 10, 2015

Trailblazer1:
you seem positive today, for the first time in your nairaland life.
It seems you're now born-again cos the Ibnsultan I know is a bokoharam apologist

You actually referred to him as Boko Haram apologist? Because he doesn't agree with you on some issues, mainly political issues. You must be more Nigerian than him.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by delvinmaya(m): 3:34pm On Mar 10, 2015

sorry to say, sirshymexx is thinking with his head in his backside. For your mind, you done make sense finish. Being objective shouldn't kill you. If you have followed the war against boko haram, maybe you would have been wise before throwing away your pride and calling a fowl uncle just because you wanna eat it. Admitted the NA were disappointing to have allowed this situation become worse. But ascribing victory to Chad is dumb. They retreated from Bags two days before it was taken by BH, you are blind to that. The SA to Deby was arrested with sophisticated weapons meant for BH, you refuse to think. Since they joined the war, they keep recapturing what they had earlier captured and you think they are the best thing to happen to you. Why not move down to Chad and become their citizen?
Even synergycom own worse.
Despite NA retaking over 38 towns back, and Chad finding it difficult to hold on to just the two they claim to have captured.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Alexander001(m): 3:42pm On Mar 10, 2015

Young03:
Am speechless

you better start talking or else

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by totorimi: 3:49pm On Mar 10, 2015

So without election this government would have been watching helplessly while Boko wipes us all out

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by deskossy(m): 4:27pm On Mar 10, 2015

SirShymexx:

Everything basically just shows how incompetent the Nigerian military is. That particular terrain is part of Nigeria, and a proper military trains its forces adaptations to all the different terrains within its border for things like this one. Just take a look at how the US, Russia, China, UK etc. are constituted.

Then when the proper insurgency started - a proactive country/military that cares about winning would've consulted Algeria, a country not far away, with a decent military that understands the terrain - and has dealt with something similar, but more brutal in the past - for assistance (I talked about that in the past). However, they didn't. Guess what they're doing now? - they're getting mercenaries from South Africa - mercenaries who don't understand the terrain and will end up getting roasted like they did during the Sierra Leonean war.

Furthermore, there has been no effort whatsoever to acquire the proper heavy weapons required for the war. And the coordination is utter poor. Without the Chadians who care more about their own national integrity and trading routes for the survival of the poor country - they'd still be perambulating with no progress whatsoever, while wasting the lives of the decent people in the military. These folks don't care about winning any war - just a bunch of incompetent twerps with primitive and utterly dumb propaganda machine.

i couldn't agree more sir...NA propaganda is quite nauseating. .tthey keep showing d same weapons they captured over and over again. .they tell us they killed hundreds of fighters but we never see their bodies...cheers mate!

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by texazzpete(m): 4:28pm On Mar 10, 2015

It's hilarious seeing all the clowns trying to downplay the achievement of the Chadian army on the first page.
Chad crushed al Qaeda fighters in Northern Mali. They are led by a President who has cojones and knows what needs to be done to equip a nation for warfare.

Boko Haram has been rampaging since 2012...and supporters of this regime are not ashamed to say it took 3 years to equip the army to face this rag-tag BH forces.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Nobody: 4:29pm On Mar 10, 2015

Henry120:

Ibnsultaan is no boko-haram apologist. He is a brother in arms through in through. Him been a GMB supporter doesn't detract from the fact he shares the aspiration of total annihilation of boko-haram terrorists.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by gidiMonsta(m): 4:40pm On Mar 10, 2015

delvinmaya:
sorry to say, sirshymexx is thinking with his head in his backside. For your mind, you done make sense finish. Being objective shouldn't kill you. If you have followed the war against boko haram, maybe you would have been wise before throwing away your pride and calling a fowl uncle just because you wanna eat it. Admitted the NA were disappointing to have allowed this situation become worse. But ascribing victory to Chad is dumb. They retreated from Bags two days before it was taken by BH, you are blind to that. The SA to Deby was arrested with sophisticated weapons meant for BH, you refuse to think. Since they joined the war, they keep recapturing what they had earlier captured and you think they are the best thing to happen to you. Why not move down to Chad and become their citizen?
Even synergycom own worse.
Despite NA retaking over 38 towns back, and Chad finding it difficult to hold on to just the two they claim to have captured.

You don't need to insult people to pass your message across. The MNJTF pulled out from Baga because according to them the Nigerian Army was not serious about fighting BH and they do not want to risk the lives of their men, not surprisingly our Army was chased out by BH within 3 weeks of their departure.

The current military operations was started by Chad because BH activities are affecting their trade-routes from Cameroon (Chad is Landlocked) and they entered Nigeria without permission when they pursued a group of BH operatives from Cameroon. It's very embarrassing that Chad and Nigeria are operating within Nigeria's territory and liberating Nigerian towns no matter how small, if you are a patriotic Nigerian like you claim it should be embarrassing to you too.

Nigeria's military on paper is more powerful that the entire 15 other west African nations combined and yet we are in this mess.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by gidiMonsta(m): 4:46pm On Mar 10, 2015

SirShymexx:

Everything basically just shows how incompetent the Nigerian military is. That particular terrain is part of Nigeria, and a proper military trains its forces adaptations to all the different terrains within its border for things like this one. Just take a look at how the US, Russia, China, UK etc. are constituted.

Then when the proper insurgency started - a proactive country/military that cares about winning would've consulted Algeria, a country not far away, with a decent military that understands the terrain - and has dealt with something similar, but more brutal in the past - for assistance (I talked about that in the past). However, they didn't. Guess what they're doing now? - they're getting mercenaries from South Africa - mercenaries who don't understand the terrain and will end up getting roasted like they did during the Sierra Leonean war.

Furthermore, there has been no effort whatsoever to acquire the proper heavy weapons required for the war. And the coordination is utter poor. Without the Chadians who care more about their own national integrity and trading routes for the survival of the poor country - they'd still be perambulating with no progress whatsoever, while wasting the lives of the decent people in the military. These folks don't care about winning any war - just a bunch of incompetent twerps with primitive and utterly dumb propaganda machine.

Can you imagine a situation where Kazakhstan enters Russia to help stop Chechen rebels? or Mexico entering USA to re-capture Texan towns from KKK?

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by SirShymexx: 4:51pm On Mar 10, 2015

gidiMonsta:

Can you imagine a situation where Kazakhstan enters Russia to help stop Chechen rebels? or Mexico entering USA to re-capture Texan towns from KKK?

These folks don't understand the implications of what's going on and the precedence they're setting. They know Nigeria is weak, and I won't be surprised if the Rwanda/Uganda vs. Congo Dr situation starts happening in the nearest future - with the smaller country bullying and causing instability in the bigger one.

That will be very interesting to watch.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Controlled(f): 4:52pm On Mar 10, 2015

tommykiwi:
No be ur mate dey the army? Go join na.

everi badi get im own calling...... grin

but wat Eva urs is grin

...do it well.... grin

n not run into d hills wen u hear d name book haram.... grin

and den call ur sef army.... grin

if it is to beat bladi civilians, u will see dem....flexing.... grin

smh@Na.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Nobody: 4:54pm On Mar 10, 2015

authority2006:
You actually referred to him as Boko Haram apologist? Because he doesn't agree with you on some issues, mainly political issues. You must be more Nigerian than him.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Nobody: 4:55pm On Mar 10, 2015

vedaxcool:
Chad victory will remain forever an indictment on the GEJ clueless regime!

Uncle d GEJ I know is not running a regime. Chad keeps making noise about nothing. U don't think being quiet about tactical issues is tactics on it's own. The chadian military is amateur at best.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by nduchucks: 4:59pm On Mar 10, 2015

For the information of the religious bigots who regularly equate Boko Haram terrorists with Islam, please note that 100% of the Chadian solders are moslems who practice Islam.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by cjrane: 5:00pm On Mar 10, 2015

[size=15pt]The Boko haram moles in NA must be prevented from interfering or halting the Chadian momentum against the murderous Boko haram. The insurgents must surrender or destroyed by Chad and part of our army still committed to Nigeria.

I can smell moles in Nigerian army trying to hide under "territorial integrity" to offer the Boko Haram insurgents areas to hide and regroup inside Nigeria by urging the government to deny Chad the approval to pursue Boko Haram.

We must watch out for the Boko Haram media crew that will do everything to escape the hot pursuit of the Chadian military.[/size]

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by baralatie(m): 5:06pm On Mar 10, 2015

olapluto:
Im sorry I dont believe these Chadian armies anymore. For over a month now, they've be capturing and recapturing Dikwa. Their claims are actually over exaggerated.
Taking one town, and helping police borders does not warrant this level of noise.

you noticed!

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by vedaxcool(m): 5:08pm On Mar 10, 2015

engrkenny:

Uncle d GEJ I know is not running a regime. Chad keeps making noise about nothing. U don't think being quiet about tactical issues is tactics on it's own. The chadian military is amateur at best.

No he is running junta! You expect chad to quiet it down so that uncle gej siblings can have a field day? You must be sipping some despicable stuff!

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by hardbody: 5:16pm On Mar 10, 2015

Revolution:
The Chadian army has been impressive. Does this mean that if a war breaks out between Nigeria and Chad Nigeria will lose? Nigeria used to have the best military in West Africa

Chad is bordered closest to Maiduguri and the terrain and topography is both homogenous and consistent with what the chadians are used to so it is not a big deal if their infantry excel in this desert war. I am near certain that in a war which we have to use long range missiles and other armaments on a different topography, we wont be licked. To win Nigeria in a war, you must firat defeat Abuja and maybe take over Lagos and Port Harcourt. War in these parts of the country will determine the strength of the opponent not the sahara or maghreb regional infantry batles.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by hardbody: 5:19pm On Mar 10, 2015

nduchucks:
For the information of the religious bigots who regularly equate Boko Haram terrorists with Islam, please note that 100% of the Chadian solders are moslems who practice Islam.

Igbos are everywhere. Do not underestimate the possibility of an Igbo christian parading as a moslem fighting alongside the chadian army, so long as the pay is good.

I am Igbo and no insults intended.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by ocelot2006(m): 5:35pm On Mar 10, 2015

vedaxcool:
Chad victory will remain forever an indictment on the GEJ clueless regime!

What victory? Chad recaptured only Gamboru Ngala (while BH massacred 100+ civilians at Fotokol, the Chadian FOB), Dikwa multiple times I don't even know if its true or false. The Nigerian military on the other hand has recaptured over 16 towns, have done the hardest fighting alone, and are now spearheading the offensive against BH in Gwoza.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Nobody: 6:08pm On Mar 10, 2015

koonbey:
My brother, this is obviously a training op and not real action. Further, the Nigerian troops here are obviously special forces and cannot be taken to represent the generality of Nigerian troops. For one, you and I know that almost all Nigerian soldiers are equipped with Kalashnikov 47s, and not the Tavor Bullpup rifles these guys are using.

Brother, all 1200 participants of Operation Flintlock 2015 were drawn from the special forces of all 20 participating countries.

From the Americans to Danish- british- Spanish- Nigerian - chadian - mauritanian etc etc........ personnel were drawn from their various special forces units.

Those chadian soldiers come from Chad's special forces.

Nigerian forces as we can all see are kitted to. Western special forces standard.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Reaper231(m): 6:22pm On Mar 10, 2015

zizibabe1:

7 gboasas for you sir.You are one of the very few amongst the young people that have some form of correct knowledge of the dynamics of this operation.I have always insisted that people should be informed before making statement in the public domain.In this joint effort,to which the AU has pledged to suoprt with another 10,000 spldiets,there are RULES OF ENGAGEMENT.That is the reason soldiers from a given nation have certain roles and are also restricted to certain places at a given time.I commend your knowledge in these matter.

Thnks a lot. Some of us don't undstnd d intricacies of warfare. We jst want things done. Jst as we playing politics with d boko ish some countries are waiting to cash in on our woes. We ar lucky South Africa doesn't share boundary with us

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by delvinmaya(m): 6:27pm On Mar 10, 2015

gidiMonsta:

You don't need to insult people to pass your message across. The MNJTF pulled out from Baga because according to them the Nigerian Army was not serious about fighting BH and they do not want to risk the lives of their men, not surprisingly our Army was chased out by BH within 3 weeks of their departure.

The current military operations was started by Chad because BH activities are affecting their trade-routes from Cameroon (Chad is Landlocked) and they entered Nigeria without permission when they pursued a group of BH operatives from Cameroon. It's very embarrassing that Chad and Nigeria are operating within Nigeria's territory and liberating Nigerian towns no matter how small, if you are a patriotic Nigerian like you claim it should be embarrassing to you too.

Nigeria's military on paper is more powerful that the entire 15 other west African nations combined and yet we are in this mess.

Of Course i dont have to insult him. Its just a matter of choice. And so i choose to. Its that simple. If you read my post, i admitted the shortcomings of the NA. Their ineptitude got us into this mess. But with we fool ourselves when we now deride them and praise the Chadians for doing nothing. Every dick and Harry now engage in deriding the military and downgrading the country. Nigeria is far above any sole individual, and as such shouldnt be ridden down like a flea. Take it or leave it, we are the architect of our present predicament, and we seem to have decided that joining the Chadians and even foreign media to belittle ourselves is the right course of action.
Its embarrasing to me that Nigerians like you, who believe you are patriotic think being patriotic is to belittle the efforts of the armed forces. And your analysis is faulty. Not only have you refused to admit that Chad has been used as a base by BH, you talk about them starting the current military actions. Chairman, i must say, you amaze me. If as you say they started it, how come they keep complaining that they are not allowed beyond where they currently are. And how dare you say they pursued BH into Nigeria without permission. God have mercy. Their sole mandate is simple, "Man the borders, do not allow BH pass through into your territories". And for your information, Biu pleaded with Chad to come rescue them.

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by Nobody: 6:44pm On Mar 10, 2015

Henry120:

Brother, all 1200 participants of Operation Flintlock 2015 were drawn from the special forces of all 20 participating countries.

From the Americans to Danish- british- Spanish- Nigerian - chadian - mauritanian etc etc........ personnel were drawn from their various special forces units.

Those chadian soldiers come from Chad's special forces.

Nigerian forces as we can all see are kitted to. Western special forces standard.

That's exactly what I'm saying: you cannot use the level of sophistication of the Nigerian Army's special forces to project the equipment level(under or over) of the generality of its soldiers.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by vedaxcool(m): 6:55pm On Mar 10, 2015

ocelot2006:

What victory? Chad recaptured only Gamboru Ngala (while BH massacred 100+ civilians at Fotokol, the Chadian FOB), Dikwa multiple times I don't even know if its true or false. The Nigerian military on the other hand has recaptured over 16 towns, have done the hardest fighting alone, and are now spearheading the offensive against BH in Gwoza.

And your military's tale (bastardise by jogogoro and his lootenants that has the habit of lying repeatedly like rescueing chibok gals etc) is more believable.
Wow pathetic! Do u know this problem started from Nigeria? Hating on Chad which has fought gallantly so far is very strange! Comparing notes with chad is pitiable, how does this comparison explains away jonathan failure over the years, his deliberate policy of letting his siblings run riot in Borno.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by BabaO2: 7:16pm On Mar 10, 2015

jpphilips:
Our boys please you have equipment now, you shouldn't be hanging out 50km away from action, kudos to everyone

Give kudos and respect to Chadian Army, they are the one winning the war with their competent CIC, Nigerian army with their yeye cic always looking for undeserved praises.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by rabzy: 7:30pm On Mar 10, 2015

gidiMonsta:

You don't need to insult people to pass your message across. The MNJTF pulled out from Baga because according to them the Nigerian Army was not serious about fighting BH and they do not want to risk the lives of their men, not surprisingly our Army was chased out by BH within 3 weeks of their departure.

The current military operations was started by Chad because BH activities are affecting their trade-routes from Cameroon (Chad is Landlocked) and they entered Nigeria without permission when they pursued a group of BH operatives from Cameroon. It's very embarrassing that Chad and Nigeria are operating within Nigeria's territory and liberating Nigerian towns no matter how small, if you are a patriotic Nigerian like you claim it should be embarrassing to you too.

Nigeria's military on paper is more powerful that the entire 15 other west African nations combined and yet we are in this mess.

Military operations and capturing of territories are done step wise. You move inch by inch kilometre by kilometre until the enemy is totally routed. The nigerian army is working deep in Nigerian territory outwards towards the borders of 3 different countries. Chad, Niger are fighting are the borders towards Nigeria with less ground to cover. Many of the towns liberated shared boundary with chad and Niger towns, some are even same town with some part in Nigeria and other part in chad or niger. So it is not surprising if their armies are able to make incursion into Nigeria and liberate these towns. The Nigerian army has liberated 38 towns that are bigger and more strategic. Chad has also been able to turn many of their BH sympathizers against BH.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by baralatie(m): 7:39pm On Mar 10, 2015

ocelot2006:

What victory? Chad recaptured only Gamboru Ngala (while BH massacred 100+ civilians at Fotokol, the Chadian FOB), Dikwa multiple times I don't even know if its true or false. The Nigerian military on the other hand has recaptured over 16 towns, have done the hardest fighting alone, and are now spearheading the offensive against BH in Gwoza.

Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by delvinmaya(m): 7:44pm On Mar 10, 2015

rabzy:

Military operations and capturing of territories are done step wise. You move inch by inch kilometre by kilometre until the enemy is totally routed. The nigerian army is working deep in Nigerian territory outwards towards the borders of 3 different countries. Chad, Niger are fighting are the borders towards Nigeria with less ground to cover. Many of the towns liberated shared boundary with chad and Niger towns, some are even same town with some part in Nigeria and other part in chad or niger. So it is not surprising if their armies are able to make incursion into Nigeria and liberate these towns. The Nigerian army has liberated 38 towns that are bigger and more strategic. Chad has also been able to turn many of their BH sympathizers against BH.

Please educate him......

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Re: Chadian Soldiers Capture Boko Haram's Command Center by gidiMonsta(m): 8:04pm On Mar 10, 2015

rabzy:

Military operations and capturing of territories are done step wise. You move inch by inch kilometre by kilometre until the enemy is totally routed. The nigerian army is working deep in Nigerian territory outwards towards the borders of 3 different countries. Chad, Niger are fighting are the borders towards Nigeria with less ground to cover. Many of the towns liberated shared boundary with chad and Niger towns, some are even same town with some part in Nigeria and other part in chad or niger. So it is not surprising if their armies are able to make incursion into Nigeria and liberate these towns. The Nigerian army has liberated 38 towns that are bigger and more strategic. Chad has also been able to turn many of their BH sympathizers against BH.

Dude nobody is saying NA is not making progress recently. I have already commended them multiple times and I am 100% in support of our troops. However, we have to call a spade a spade, the fact that Chad and Niger are on OUR SOIL recapturing OUR TOWNS (irregardless of proximity to their border or number of towns) is a big shame to us. Nigeria should be able to defend her territorial integrity on her own without help from countries who rank amongst the 10 poorest in the world.

It's so embarrassing that UN and AU are talking about sending about 12k troops to Nigeria, when we have at least 80,000 military personnel.

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