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jpphilips:


Living in denial as usual, typical Nigerian who is so lazy to dissect the facts and fix culpability where it belongs;

Nigerian army last success; Sierra Leone 1997.

Operation pulo Shield Niger delta: Failure!!
Mali intervention: Failure!!
Operation flush (boko Haram): Failure!!

When they start winning, I will polish my trumpet. this is the moment of truth, because of this incompetence, good soldiers have died, civilians to the tune of 13,000 wasted. I cannot be fooled by the pettiness of people piloting the affairs of this nation.
Most of you decieved yourselves that the Nigerian army has the best infantry in the world, yet some are now saying they have not mastered desert war fare , is the desert on air?

I asked a soldier where they got the award from, he said they trekked from Liberia to Sierra leone, the award was based on endurance and size of troops, I quickly asked him if he hasn't heard of military transport before?

Country where majority lack common sense is bound to fail, I cannot be surprised at our political and military failures.

rabzy:
why are you laughing like a maniac, you've obviously got some screws off. all these your rants has nothing to do with all i have written. i have never said Nigeria has the best infantry and neither do i believe that. So you can shove all that diatribe up the as.ses of those who said that. Nigeria has mismanaged this bokoharam madness for long and a lot of errors where committed because of political and ethnic wranglings.

But that does not mean Chad is now something they are not. Chad has been claiming battles they have never been close to for long. They equally claimed to have killed shekau when nothing was yet happening at their end. They have used pictures already posted days earlier by Nigerian soldiers and used it for their propaganda. So if you choose to believe chad that is your prerogative but dont thumb your nose down at others who believe otherwise or rant unendingly because that does not mean you have a clue, it only means you are unstable.

ocelot2006:
Your allegation about me creating some sort of jealousy between Nigeria and Chad is simply untrue. However as a Nigerian, I will NOT sit back and watch the Chadians rubbish my country's name by running it's mouth more than necessary just because it enjoyed a two victories, and as a Nigerian I expect the same from you regardless of the flaws of our Armed Forces. What I find baffling is that so-called Nigerians like you have swallowed the whole Chadian narrative of the current conflict hook-line-and-sinker without at least sifting through available facts.

With regards the issue of equipment, it is true that the Nigerian military made mistakes in the past. Yes troops equipped with soft skinned vehicles like Toyota Pickups and Ford Rangers armed with simple GPMGs and little combat air support went against a numerically superior enemy armed with HEAVILY ARMED with HMGs and Vehicle mounted AA guns, surpluses from the Libyan conflict. How do you expect the former to survive a fire fight against that? Even elite US Special Forces will consider that foolhardy, especially without air support. Now in comes the Chadians. They are far less disciplined than the Nigerian Army, BUT they did come in with MASSIVE firepower from HMGS MOUNTED Toyota Pick up trucks to BMP-1 IFVS. Firepower - wise, it was already lopsided in favour of the Chadians. Still, the same Chadians mistakenly left their rear exposed. As for the Nigerian Military, the rearming of the Armed forces have been nothing short of impressive. New platforms (T-72 MBTS, BTR- 80s, BTR-4 IFVS, Igirigi MRAP, Bigfoot MRAPS, Ikri LAPV, CH-3A UCAVs, PUMA transport helos, Gazelle LUH, additional upgraded Alpha jets, better combat vests, new Beryl Rifles, REVA MRAPS, Mi-35 attack helicopters etc) have been acquired, we've recieved better tactical training from the Russians and Isrealis, our combat pilots are flying longer combat sorties from recon to combat air support, and we've learnt from our past mistakes. The result is all there for you to see from the victories in Adamawa (Mubi, Mitchika, Hong, etc), Yobe (Damaturu, etc), and Borno (Baga, Bama, Konduga, Maiduguri, etc).

ocelot2006:
LMAO!!! Yeah right . Yet we held on to the Peninsula all those years, and even threatened to nationalise French Businesses here in Nigeria.


Fart-for-brains, we touched Cameroun for 10+ years and heavens did not fall from Paris.

ocelot2006:
Buttwipe, if you had even bothered to follow the kidnap siege in the SE, which Btw was a direct consequence of the ND insurgency no thanks to the flow of weapons and use of kidnapping as a tool of terror, then you would've known that the Police under the then AIG whose Zonal command was responsible for that AOR screwed the pooch big time, hence the need for the FG to reassign that assignment to the Army's 82nd Composite Division under the command of a GOC who served with distinction as the Commander of JTF and the architect of OP. Pulo Shield.

And yes I call OP. Pulo Shield a success. Did the Asari Dokubo even bother to pick up arms again especially after the expiration of the amnesty program and the beginning of massive military operations? Didn't Soboma George and Ateke Tom who ruled large in Port Harcourt take to their heels and ran back to the swamps like rats after JTF was given orders to capture them dead or alive? Did the notorious Camp 5, headquarters of MEND, not finally fall to the JTF? Yet you call Pulo Shield a failure? You must be a joker.

jpphilips:
The biggest problem you have is that you seem not to realize that some facts means hush!!

You have seen a major role played by France instead of thanking me for bringing you close to reality, you are still foaming from the mouth.

I ask you again, do you now appreciate the alliance they have with France?

Who is keeping Paul Diya in power?
France.

Who recovered Bakassi for Cameroon?
France.

Who ousted Laurent Gbagbo?
France

Who ousted Gaddafi?
France and others.

Who recovered Northern Mali from Al qaeda?
France.

Go back to the academy and ask the officer who taught you international and strategic studies if these interventions are mere coincidence.

All these other ranks who have little or no education always come to the Internet to whine because they managed to know the names of a few hardwares in the armoury.

Chad has been breaching Nigerian sovereignty and making deep incursions inside our territory and a long headed "krofo" think he has the power to stop them.

Goodluck with your buffoonery! !

jpphilips:
Did you capture the militants ring leaders yes or no?
Did we not bribe them against all odds to stop damaging our assets yes or no?
Now tell me again how OPS Pulo Shield became successful?

ocelot2006:
Point of correction, blockhead: France NEVER EVER recovered Bakassi for Cameroun. NIGERIA VOLUNTARILY ceded the peninsular in line with the ruling of the ICJ in favour of Cameroun. Prior to that we held on to the Island with threats leveled against Younde, and France didn't do JACK. This is something you ought to have known, airhead. And yet you wonder why you failed your WAEC and NECO exams multiple times. *tsk* *tsk*

ocelot2006:
OP. Pulo Shield was designed to end the ND insurgency.

Did we reduce MEND from a fighting force? YES
Did we eliminate all MEND bases? YES
Did we end the insurgency? Bleep YES!!

Now buzz off and go read for your JAMB resit exams. Oponu.

Did you capture the militants ring leaders yes or no?
Did we not bribe them against all odds to stop damaging our assets yes or no?
Now tell me again how OPS Pulo Shield became successful?

jpphilips:
Chad came with massive fire power, just listen to your dumb self.

Al Jazeera has shown a documentary twice in their camp, there is nothing massive about their fire power but I know what you want to achieve, to make Nigerians think that Chad came equipped to hide your incompetence.

before you think of deceiving us ask yourself, what is Chad's defence budget can you guess? 2011/2012 records showed a paltry $242m, subtract recurrent expenditure and tell me where Chad got the "Massive fire power" from.

You see bros we are not the f00ls you think we are.
The Chadian commander on TV told Al jazeera that all their air ops is conducted with just 2 planes. Bros how many planes do we have that Chad should be involved in the first place? Are we not ashamed?


There were very few IFV they brought, they may have more but the ones on site looks old and rickety.
Their soft skin transport is an ancient Land cruiser pick up, whose model date back to ancient of days, bros why are you lying?

Their standard issue riffle is Ak47 so which sophistication are you talking about? I saw our special forces guys with Tavor 21 riffles better than what the Chadians have, you complain Chad came with AA guns mounted on soft skins, don't we have Armoured Shilka? There is nothing Chad has ON SITE that Nigeria doesn't have except for their plane that looks pretty modern. Most of the Chadian Soldiers dont have bullet proof vests and you are talking of fire power? from where bros?

"Admit it, just like the Chadian commander pleaded they have nothing but by Allah they have the determination to win."

We lack the determination and the likes of yourself who paint a picture of eldorado for gullible Nigerians, that leaves no room for improvement.

The other Nigerian soldier who ran away from the war was complaining of being fed with " tasteless rice ", imagine the nonsense coming from a soldier, he wants to eat fried rice and chicken at the front and perhaps wash it down with Gulder, how can such a person get the desired results?

You guys have disgraced us enough we need a change of Status quo.

Thank your stars I am not the President, all of you will be in the guard room by now, for bringing shame, humiliation and disgrace to this country.

Ladies and Gentlemen of Nigeria, kindly appreciate with me what Ocelot referred to as heavy fire power, please compare and contrast and tell me exactly what is "heavy" about the Chadian fire power if not determination.

Chadian infantry movement:

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Chad+captures+Nigerian+territories+from+Boko+haram&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=X3kBVdDFA6S_ywO74oLYBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgdii=_&imgrc=xxL12iUSgpeUTM%253A%3B5aGp-nVMHSglPM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.abc.net.au%252Fnews%252Fimage%252F6059568-3x2-940x627.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.abc.net.au%252Fnews%252F2015-02-04%252Fchadian-troops-enter-nigeria-to-battle-boko-haram%252F6068178%3B940%3B627

Chadian soldiers with standard issued riffles:

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Chad+captures+Nigerian+territories+from+Boko+haram&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=X3kBVdDFA6S_ywO74oLYBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgdii=_&imgrc=PZOouYw8T2VXcM%253A%3B-VPJ-B4b94PYMM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ftheeagleonline.com.ng%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2015%252F02%252FSoldiers-from-Chad-300x224.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ftheeagleonline.com.ng%252Fchads-military-retakes-nigerian-town-from-boko-haram%252F%3B300%3B224


Boko haram members captured by Chad in Gamborou

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fpulse.ng%2Flocal%2Fboko-haram-3-reasons-for-nigerias-recent-victories-against-terrorist-group-id3558706.html&ei=BHwBVYaCEYvXygPLn4HQAg&bvm=bv.87920726,d.bGQ&psig=AFQjCNF1rE0s_yZgyMY2cGJRib_Xt-dwmw&ust=1426246481891119

Chadian soldiers on transit: notice that most of them are not wearing bullet proof vests.


http://i.cdnnaij.com/o/nsxpxI89f4VjXfXTgr22n7I5.jpg


The Nigerian forces:

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Chad+captures+Nigerian+territories+from+Boko+haram&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=X3kBVdDFA6S_ywO74oLYBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgdii=_&imgrc=MjFhfoG4obByRM%253A%3BBcRJiAlAF3xTcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F1.bp..com%252F-kCAEAaMXqBc%252FVA3DcznXbMI%252FAAAAAAABNhY%252FZAaj6PIbfdE%252Fs1600%252Fjtf%25252Btank.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nigerianeye.com%252F2014%252F09%252Fnigerian-soldiers-battle-boko-hram.html%3B736%3B383


https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Chad+captures+Nigerian+territories+from+Boko+haram&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=X3kBVdDFA6S_ywO74oLYBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgdii=MjFhfoG4obByRM%3A%3BB_COzaKEOOASWM%3BMjFhfoG4obByRM%3A&imgrc=MjFhfoG4obByRM%253A%3BBcRJiAlAF3xTcM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F1.bp..com%252F-kCAEAaMXqBc%252FVA3DcznXbMI%252FAAAAAAABNhY%252FZAaj6PIbfdE%252Fs1600%252Fjtf%25252Btank.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nigerianeye.com%252F2014%252F09%252Fnigerian-soldiers-battle-boko-hram.html%3B736%3B383

https://www.google.com.ng/search?q=Chad+captures+Nigerian+territories+from+Boko+haram&espv=2&biw=1366&bih=643&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=X3kBVdDFA6S_ywO74oLYBw&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&dpr=1#imgdii=_&imgrc=PqzNa2kF6PZzNM%253A%3BH5xTkpkzpRBxLM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252F247ureports.com%252Fwp-content%252Fuploads%252F2014%252F10%252Farmy-bk2.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.news247.com.ng%252Fnews%252Fuk-trains-nigerian-troops-to-recapture-more-territories%3B568%3B320

Nigerians, be the judge!!

ocelot2006:
"Sigh".....The slowpoke strikes again. If you ever bothered to follow this insurgency, you would've known that we initially entered this fight unprepared. How do you expect a military unit, well trained though but armed with just GPMGs and light skinned vehicles with a smattering of Otokar Cobras (equally armed with just GPMGs), to survive a gunfight with a numerically superior and we'll prepared enemy equipped with hundreds of technicals (pickups armed with Heavy Machine Guns HMGs and AA guns) RPGs, light arms, IEDs, and VBIEDs? How do you expect a military unit stationed in a remote location with the QRF/back up HOURS away (bad roads and no transport helicopters), equally equipped with just light arms and probably 1 or 2 temperamental ZSU-24 Shilka systems that have seen good old days so face off droves of same numerically superior and well equipped enemy without running the risk of being cut off totally and annihilated? Even at that, we still see our soldiers, who though disadvantaged from the word go, fight till the very last bullet before they decide to withdraw. This was TOTALLY unlike them.

The Chadians on the other hand recently came into this war FULLY ready and highly mobile. A typically Chadian convoy had EVERYTHING needed to repel any Boko Haram attack from their HEAVILY ARMED signature Toyota Land cruiser pickups, to IFVS, and Armoured cars, Manned by seasoned desert fighters equipped not only with light arms, but Pechenegs, RPGs, Dragunov sniper rifles, and even Barrett 50. Cal anti - material guns

Oh! you were unprepared? I see! I thought you claimed you are the battle tested giants of Africa now ordinary terrorists have just removed your under pants, when will you know shame? I am happy you agreed that the Chadians are "seasoned desert fighters" that is enough for me.

Mr Military secretary, dont think you can bamboozle anybody with military equipments, my questions come simple and cheap, as self acclaimed giant of Africa with Africa's second largest military budget, how come boko haram took you unawares? How come it took you 5yrs to even wake up?
Can you tell us in details what you saw in the Chadian armory on site that Nigeria does not have? thank gracious that I book marked the thread where you gave a comprehensive list of our arsenal.

See the way you downplayed your Armoured, tracked Shilka while praising Boko haram's AA guns mounted on soft skin, who do you think you are deceiving?
Speaking of which, you claim you have no back up chopper at the time but today, we read that the military is weaponizing the remaining Augusta 109, why are you weaponizing the Augusta now? same Augusta 109, that the military was using for kabu-kabu at Oronto douglas father's burial, that took the life of the most seasoned NSA Nigeria has ever produced and a sitting Governor?
Who do you think you are fooling?

Admit it, you guys have been sleeping and Chad is here to teach you some military tactics, sit back, relax and enjoy and dont forget to wave the Chadian flag in solidarity after Shekau's capture, nonsense!!

Is it not history repeating itself? after playing for 9 years in Liberia, Britain came and conducted operation Barras, and everything we fought for in 9yrs, Britain ended it in 3hrs, yet Dogonyaro was praising himself shamelessly as a tough achiever

You guys need to come to the private sector, by now none of you will be able to feed!! nonsense!!

ocelot2006:
"Sigh".....The slowpoke strikes again. If you ever bothered to follow this insurgency, you would've known that we initially entered this fight unprepared. How do you expect a military unit, well trained though but armed with just GPMGs and light skinned vehicles with a smattering of Otokar Cobras (equally armed with just GPMGs), to survive a gunfight with a numerically superior and we'll prepared enemy equipped with hundreds of technicals (pickups armed with Heavy Machine Guns HMGs and AA guns) RPGs, light arms, IEDs, and VBIEDs? How do you expect a military unit stationed in a remote location with the QRF/back up HOURS away (bad roads and no transport helicopters), equally equipped with just light arms and probably 1 or 2 temperamental ZSU-24 Shilka systems that have seen good old days so face off droves of same numerically superior and well equipped enemy without running the risk of being cut off totally and annihilated? Even at that, we still see our soldiers, who though disadvantaged from the word go, fight till the very last bullet before they decide to withdraw. This was TOTALLY unlike them.

The Chadians on the other hand recently came into this war FULLY ready and highly mobile. A typically Chadian convoy had EVERYTHING needed to repel any Boko Haram attack from their HEAVILY ARMED signature Toyota Land cruiser pickups, to IFVS, and Armoured cars, Manned by seasoned desert fighters equipped not only with light arms, but Pechenegs, RPGs, Dragunov sniper rifles, and even Barrett 50. Cal anti - material guns

rabzy:
When a kidnapping is done, you dont stay close to where the kidnapping was done. Many of the men and women kidnapped in Nigeria has also been taken to bases outside of Nigeria to be trained, married and sold as the case may be. Did you not read the report of some towns in Niger and Chad, where BH have thriving communities, they steal cattles and take them to the town, employ people to take care of the cattles, sink boreholes for the community and recruit soldiers. These guys respect no borders and have no rules, they will take whatever they get. Long before now the NA has been saying many of the BH soldiers they captured were from Chad and Niger.

And Nigeria has been telling these countries to take action against BH that have been fleeing into their country and subsequently using it as a base to launch attacks from different axis across the border. Chadian soldiers chasing BH into Gamboru is not a big deal to me, the town practically sits astride the border, am sure many soldiers or even citizens dont know where Nigeria ends and Cameroon begins. its not as if there is a natural barrier that delineates anywhere there. if am chasing a bunch of cut-throat bastards that have just ravaged my village, and they ran from one part of town to the other, a line in the sand (which does not even exist) will not stop me from routing them as long as they are still in sight. These incursions are not more than 10-20 km, how many minutes does it take a hilux jeep to gulp such distance.

BH have been having free movement in and out of these countries and attacking across the borders from a wide expanse. Now our neighbors has seen that it is not just a Nigerian problem. Last year the wife of the camerounian VP was kidnapped and several french citizens. Ransom was paid to release them. BH got millions of dollars, about the same time the Chadian president arrange a false truce with when BH was been pounded by the NA, the fighting lulled and it gave BH time to re-group and strategize plus the money they got, they were able to come back stronger and better. So there is no way the NA army would win this battle decisively if our Neighbors don't see it also in their interest to join the fight. Its like saying the US will win the narcotics war without mexico.

ocelot2006:
Chei!! This boy is truly dumber than I thought oh....come oh, you want to compare the British Operation Barras against the Westside boys (REMNANTS of the defeated RUF) to the whole Sierre Leonean conflict that saw the Nigerian-led ECOMOG soundly trash the RUF with their backers from Liberia and Burkina Faso? Do you even know what Ops. Barras was all about? Lemme help, u do know it was a simple rescue mission to rescue some Irish Ranger regiment soldiers, right? You do know that the tactics of the Late Nigerian Gen. Khobe (RiP) in successfully retaking Freetown is still studied in military academies, including the prestigious West Point? Bros, you are TRULY a dumb turd-filled F.O.O.L.

jpphilips:
Do you know your biggest problem? you like to tell the world that you know something when you are as empty as a coconut, it is evident in all your posts.

Coming here to mention terminologies you learnt from military documentaries while avoiding the substance of discourse is mere buffoonery.

For you to say that you decimated the RUF is an insult to tax payers like us who paid for those botched missions.

Ruf had several leaders namely, Issa Sesay, Morris Kallon and
Augustine Gbao. How many of them did ECOMOG capture or kill?
The death of Foday Sankor (though unconfirmed) was the last victory I gave to the Nigerian Army 1997/98. Who do you think you are lying to?
You went to loot Sierra Leone for 9yrs and you have the temerity to talk nonsense.

You said the West side boys was a sub set of the RUF, who told you that? Always looking for cheap opportunity to feel among like he knows anything.
Is like saying that MEND is a sub set of Boko Haram, who do you think you are lying to?

RUF and West side Niggaz are unconnected in any way, they ran different leadership and command structures worst still, they operated in different regions.
While the RUF was operating in Makeni, west side operated in Occra hills, I have told you severally that you are a disgrace to the Nigerian Army if civilians continue to lecture you in this mannerism all the time.

You undermined the British intervention in your last submission, since it was a mere rescue operation, why was ECOMOG inefficient in their release?

Britain captured the 21 yr old commander of the west side boys Foday Kallay, after 2yrs of humiliating ECOMOG and you still have mouth to talk?

The intervention of the British became necessary in that conflict because ECOMOG SLEPT FOR NEARLY 1 DECADE! shame on you X56.
You can continue decieving your South African fans not me.

This thread is about Chad disgracing Nigeria and nothing more, I implore you to stay on course.

ocelot2006:
You know you really really REALLY need to stick to what you know, like Davido and the shoki dance and whatever crap you kids like these. Leave geopolitics and military issues alone cos you've just embarrassed yourself, and your Op. Barras comparison with the actual civil war just confirmed the fact that YOU DONT KNOW JACK. Your problem's that you fling so many crap and gibberish on this thread in the hope that it'll mask your total lack of knowledge. 'problem is that you just confirmed that you're blockhead.

Oh BTW, we told the Chadians to get the Bleep out of Gamboru Ngala and Dikwa. I still don't see the heavens fall from Paris.

Now buzz off and go read your books. WAEC is coming.

jpphilips:
Are you not ashamed of yourself? just listen to yourself, what is Chad doing there in the first place?
SAVING YOUR BLACK ARS@ that knows no gratitude.
I don't really have your time to remain competent in my own endeavour.

ocelot2006:
And this useless kid is still here. "Save us" indeed . Kiddo, once again, go stick to what you know and leave geopolitics to us adults. Now for the umpteenth time, GO READ YOUR BOOKS. Fill up that coconut head of yours with a lil knowledge before you run down here. As for me, I'm done arguing with your sorry retarded a$$. When you pass your WAEC, lemme know. Till then, bleep OFF.

jpphilips:
There is no Honor in being ignorant and a convicted liar, but ew days, you have quickly learnt that JPphilips is not one of those on your lie spinning list.
I hope you will not make that mistake next time, enjoy your cluelessness, like commander in chief like military secretary.

Afroconnect:
Nothing wrong with our Army,just that our President and so called leaders are selfish and too greedy,not as patriotic as the Chadian leader-who is a true fighter and has literally fought for his Nation.

Our set of politicians are our biggest enemies,they will destroy Nigeria if we don't get rid of them or force them to lead right.