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| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 11:02am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Walelavender:We all know what happened to PDP in the SW. Oyo and Ogun were highly factionalised in 2011. Lagos has always been factionalised since 2006. The Fashola hype was at its peak in Lagos as at 2011, divided PDP votes benefitted Amosun and Ajimobi in Ogun and Oyo respectively. Unfortunately for the APC, they've lost that grassroot base in Ogun to SDP and PDP is united. In Oyo, we have a party called Accord that is causing political waves. Labour and PDP are even trailing. What Ajomobi still enjoys is nothing apart from incumbency- However, that isn't a factor in Oyo state. As for the Presidential, Buhari is not even being campaigned for except on the minds of APC supporters. Other parties are campaigning for GEJ. The result will send some shocker when announced by inec |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by maestroferddi: 11:03am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Bruteforce1o1:I will be wasting my time touching base with you. Your emotion is doing the talking for now. Maybe we shall engage when you get lucid... |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 11:04am On Mar 17, 2015 |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Bruteforce1o1: 11:11am On Mar 17, 2015 |
maestroferddi:You have no point bro, an Ibo man based in Lagos that now knows more than those in Ogun state. Very funny. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by maestroferddi: 11:14am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Demdem:And the answer is that politically speaking, Amaechi is a dead man walking in Rivers State. You don't mess around with Peter Odili who has been around in Rivers politics since the time of Rufus Ada George. It is a no-brainer that Wike will humiliate Amaechi and the stooge fronting for him in the shape of Dakuku Peterside in Rivers. Buhari will be fortunate to get up to 7% of total votes in Rivers. Put your finger on the foregoing... |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by CostaHazard: 11:16am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:With this warped logic of yours that someone can't win elections because "the structure that brought him to power is no longer with him", is it then safe to say Jonathan can and will never win his re-election because the structure that brought him to power in 2011 and earlier (2007/2010) is no longer with him (Obj, Amaechi, Saraki, Tinubu, to mention but a few)? |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by temitopeadeyemo: 11:17am On Mar 17, 2015 |
What OP failed to recognize is that, party structures, endorsements, etc do not in anyway influence votes in SW. Check the history of voting in SW. Yorubas treat endorsements with skepticism. To them if you endorse someone, you must have collected something. Some Yorubas will remember "demo mo wa." You may see my hand but you cant see my mind. That's yoruba for you. Even those going about endorsing Jonathan may end up voting otherwise. A Yoruba person will vote for his or her conscience. Not blindly follow any leader. This so called masterpiece is flawed, lacking both empirical and historical references. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by maestroferddi: 11:21am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Bruteforce1o1:Can you see your one kobo thinking capacity? Informed people are known to make valid calls on elections holding tens of thousand of kilometres away. You tell me how your being from the SW automatically translates to your knowing more than I do? |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by icon8: 11:28am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:Accord is on ground in Ibadan and some parts of Oyo town alone, SDP only exists in Ogun State, LP is non-existent in the South West. FACT! |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ElFenomeno1: 11:28am On Mar 17, 2015 |
maestroferddi:Wike humliate Dakuku and Amaechi? You are out of touch with reality sir! ![]() Your jaw will drop next month! |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Walelavender(m): 11:31am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:I understand you fully. The sympathy GEJ got from electorates in 2011 has taken its flight to the doorstep of GMB. You don't want to give GEJ a landslide. I possibly see a run-off (if GMB doesn't win) in presidential election. Osoba is wasting his time in Ogun. SIA one is a performer and I can tell you categorically that the SDP and PDP men are no match for him. Ajimobi of Oyo will bank on the split in the PDP. A lot of divided votes amongst them(PDP,LP,SDP AP) with APC having a slight edge. I live there. Not a print or electronic media analysis. Bro let's be factual. This wind of CHANGE is blowing massively. We will get THERE one day, with better institutions |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 11:42am On Mar 17, 2015 |
CostaHazard:Which Amaechi, Saraki, Tinubu and who broght GEJ to power? Obj's influence was in securing the PDP ticket. The Ogun ground work was done by OGD and Kashamu. In Lagos, Tinubu did NOTHING in reality but only cashed in on people's sentiment. In Rivers GEJ won because all other parties(including pdp, acn, lp, apga etc except cpc) were behind him. You have to support GEJ if you want to stand a chance in Gov election. I agree with you in Kwara BUT gbemi is now in PDP plus the former APC structure. I wouldn't discuss Kwara for now. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by politifact: 11:42am On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:I have decided not to argue with anyone on this forum till march 28 but I think there are some things you ought to know about the south west,and I will explain it to you state by state . LAGOS-I have lived there all my life and I am very familiar with political events in this state since 1999 when bola tinubu became the governor .one thing about election in this state is that the oba's,OPC,afenifere or whatever name you give them don't hold any influence when it comes to election mobilization which is key to winning elections,rather,it is the local councils who are the closest to the grass roots and its been controlled by the APC. Secondly,lagos oba's will and can never campaign for GEJ as they are all in tinubu's pocket,thirdly,the APC is just too rooted in lagos,go to any newspaper stand and you will see for yourself. Fourthly,lagos state has the highest number of unemployed youth who attended the failed immigration recruitment and has an ax to grind with mr president(myself included). Fifthly,civil servants,market women,NURTW and other key interest in all in the kitty for the APC,however,mr president is only popular among the igbo residents in lagos who supports him for no other reason than ethnic sentiments. I can bet it that gen buhari will secure a landslide victory in lagos. OGUN- political analysis is about dynamism,that is,analysis should be made on the dynamics of each subject matter. There are three contending political parties in ogun state;the ruling APC,PDP and the SDP,the APC candidate,gov. Amosun is a performer and has further brightened the chances of the party even though former governor,segun osoba has decamped to the SDP but one thing I want you to know is that the yoruba's and the people of ogun state can vote different parties for different offices and also putting into consideration the fact that the APC vice presidential candidate,prof yemi osinbajo is from the state as ethnicity will play a major role. OSUN-I don't think I need to explain anything,osun is in the kitty for gen buhari. OYO- as a keen follower of the state by state campaigns of both the PDP and the APC,oyo state witnessed the largest turnout for the candidate of the APC,gen buhari who was so surprised he didn't even know what to say on the podium.I don't know how far the APC will go in the governorship election but I am telling you that GEJ will lose oyo state. ONDO- it must be noted that ondo is also a core yoruba state even though it is now under the PDP and the resentments of the GEJ administration by the yoruba's will come to play here. Furthermore,there is deep division within the PDP in this state while the opposition APC is waxing stronger on a daily basis.I have friends based in ondo state who confidently tells me governor mimiko has lost so much popularity in the state hence there is nothing he can do to save pres jonathan from losing the state. EKITI- This is the only state I think GEJ might win,gov fayose has continued his harassment of the opposition in the state and prevented them from campaigning for their candidate. Even with all his threats,gen buhari will still close in on the PDP. The yoruba's minds are made up already and this started when GEJ sidelined us in his government,we thought he only needed the votes of his kinsmen in the south-south and south-east to get re-elected,his time is up! |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by richybanky(m): 11:44am On Mar 17, 2015 |
I taya for una oooooo GEJ would win SW, SS, SE, NC and still afraid of election, den who is fooling who ![]() |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by maestroferddi: 11:47am On Mar 17, 2015 |
ElFenomeno1:Madam it goes beyond sounding off online. Wike is probably the strongest grassroots politician in the current dispensation. Like Wike like Fayose. I am not saying what I don't know. Make your findings from people on ground in Rivers. Amaechi and his man Friday are disasters waiting to happen. Almost all the political leaders in Rivers are with Wike. Bookmark this call... |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by MayorofLagos(m): 11:47am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Hey politifact...it is Oba, not oba. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ibisko04: 11:49am On Mar 17, 2015 |
ozoigbondu:You are wrong and you know that you are deceiving yourself. Your mathematics is not adding up. Any deep thinking Yoruba fellow should know that nothing is on the table for Yoruba in GEJ government. If as at 4years ago when Jonathan know very well that he will need to canvas for another support from Yoruba land, he did not have anything for them. How about now that Jonathan is no more coming to ask for any favour. For four years he was crying that he is not happy that Yoruba did not occupy a good position in his government and for four years no solution from his head on how to solve the problem. Yoruba ronu. The most certain opportunity for Yoruba in this transition period remains with APC. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 11:50am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Walelavender:I don't see any run-off for the Presidential. Being a performer is one thing, having a strong political base is another. SIA will be given aÑother Fayemi. As for Ajimobi, he can't win Ibadan, he can't win Oyo town, he can't win Ogbomoso. I wonder where he will get his vote. Honestly, I'm not even counting him in the equation(I may be wrong tho). |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ElFenomeno1: 11:52am On Mar 17, 2015 |
Bayswater:Did not see what coming? We saw the panic and bribery and desperate wooing but nothing more! We have decided in this region... If you live here and you and your family vote GEJ, you will be wasting your votes! #SaiBuhari #SaiOsinbajo #SaiAPC #SaiChange |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Demdem(m): 11:55am On Mar 17, 2015 |
[s] maestroferddi:[/s] Crap..................what is thief Odili mobilizing? Rubbish If u say Wike dey mobilise, i wont doubt that but odili? are u ok at all? |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 12:00pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
Gbawe2:Bros mi, you nailed it. The old ingrate called Osoba was humiliated by OGD in 2003, but now want to control the governor cos he allowed you choose a deputy for him and some other loyalist. Amosun is now getting it right, and by Gods grace he will triumph. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 12:00pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
politifact:This is typical of APC. I've always avoided discussing the contribution and votes of SE and SS people residing in Lagos, I will avoid it still. For Lagos, we all know that Kabiyesi Akiolu isn't a fan of Buhari, he doesn't even like PDP but we all know that he'll be embarrased at the poll. Akiolu cannot tell Eko who to vote for, the APC resentment and Agbaje love among the Yorubas is always on high right from his DPA days even among the traditional class. Ambode will lose in Epe (mark it). In 2007 Bode George faction never voted for Koro of PDP. In 2011 Koro's faction never voted for Dr Dosumu of PDP. In 2015 they are all working as a unit for Agbaje. As for Jonathan, he's more favored by Lagosians than even GMB. Note that the AIT Documentary on Tinubu is influencing many ppl. In Ondo there is no more trouble in PDP as Oke and Mimiko group have settled. In Oyo is GEJ and Accord leading. In Ekiti we know the truth. In Ogun Amosun and Buhari will be shocked. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Scatterboss(m): 12:04pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
politifact:Thumb up bro. I dont even need to argue about Lagos. They think they are popular in Lagos cos some Ibos come daily on nairaland to shout GEJ till infinity. JK is going to lose as usual, the likes of all Agbero ogas are solidly behind APC. Mc Oluomo alone has more grass root followers than some PDP bigwigs. The Iyalojas, civil servants, Nurtw, and many Fashola lovers are behind APC. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Jesusloveyou: 12:05pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:pple like u,na im spoil dis country,speaking from both side of ur mouth. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Whynotthetruth(m): 12:12pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
Gbawe2:Have seen all your posts on this thread coupled with some others elsewhere... Now get this; Your obsession with barcanista is becoming childish and very immature of a 'supposed' man like you...You seem to be have an over bloated ego ...You ridicule yourself & expose your emptiness cum vague personality in a bid to bring him down...Can't you make your point without attacking his person even on a faceless forum ...YOU'RE TOO CHILDISH & PETTY FOR MY LIKING...KINDLY GROW UP...Dumping your group isn't a crime anywhere in the world...His freedom of association is still intact...GO GET A LIFE plzzzz.... |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Nobody: 12:13pm On Mar 17, 2015*. Modified: 5:32pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
Jesusloveyou:People like me elevates patriotism above partisanship. ![]() |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Walelavender(m): 12:17pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:If no run-off, then someone will win via a landslide. From the look of things, its apparent who the electorates will vote for. As for Oyo state, Ajimobi didn't win in Ogbomoso, lager part of Ibadan and even @ Oke-Ogun in 2011, when they were only 3 in the race then. Now we have 5 major contenders. What do you think? No one is going to win all the 11 local councils in Ibadan. They will win in their respective strongholds. Oke-Ogun is divided Bro. As well as Oyo. Don't be surprised Ajimobi will get the required 25% in each council. As for Ogun, SIA is a bomb, waiting to explode. I pass through Ogun state virtually every week. SIA has the grassroot to himself. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ManMountain(m): 12:18pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
Gbawe2:Bross, na 1,000,000 LIKES I gave you, but na only one NL go record for me. |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by Demdem(m): 12:18pm On Mar 17, 2015*. Modified: 2:12pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
barcanista:please am interested in this. I learnt the total population of this group in Lagos is now around 82% ![]() |
| Re: Beyond Propaganda: President Jonathan Is Favored To Win SW (opinion) by ElFenomeno1: 12:19pm On Mar 17, 2015 |
maestroferddi:Bullshit... Amaechi has been exceptional ... Wike knows nothing ... The people of Rivers won't entrust themselves with Wike, i am sure they will rather want someone who will carry on the good works of Amaechi! Are the political leaders going to vote for the masses?! |
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