EUROBOMBER:


Keep deceiving yourself. There is no Northern candidate alive that can match Buhari at the polls and if Buhari endorses any candidate and presents him to the North, then the other side is likely to win. Stop beating your chest and learn that life is not always about agrression and gra gra. There is a time to bend low to conquer and rise; only the wise can understand this.

You are also deceiving yourself because knowing our people, we cannot form any reasonable opposition. Look at APGA that was founded by our own great Ikemba-Ojukwu; it could not survive in the east because of our greed. As I write, a lot of political bigwigs are getting set to join to APC which is now the party to come onboard soon at the center. Our people are greedy and cannot bear to wait in any opposition, just wait and see how they will all move in droves into the APC then let me see the strong opposition you are talking about.

The truth hurts but if you accept it and correct your mistakes, it will set you free.

EUROBOMBER:


When will get to that bridge, we will cross it but we must not make the mistake of putting all our eggs in one basket like we did with Jonathan who was looking and watch himself lose the elections forgetting that some people staked everything for him.

pazienza:



Impossibility is the forte of the weak, it was considered impossible to win an incumbent president, but it did happen.

Buhari might not be won in the North, but his monopoly there surely can be cut, and there are many viable candidates for that in the North. As his administration goes on, he will make enemies and that is only natural.

On Buhari endorsing a Yoruba candidate and presenting to the North for the North to reject one of the own in favour of the Yoruba man, that is only a hypothesis that I am willing to put to test and see how true it holds, the Imperial North stooping for a Yoruba president with PDP dangling the presidential ticket in front of her? Odikwa very risky o!

You don't know anything about Ndiigbo, infact I am beginning to question if you are truly Igbo. The highest opposition ever played in this country was the politics that lead to the Biafra war, it was played by Ndiigbo,don't come here talking trash about what you know nothing of.



No political big wig in the SE is planning to join APC, that scenario only exists in your head. Only the losers in Igboland join APC, PDP cleared all the senatorial seats in the SE, APC only got 3seats in the house of rep, and all the state gubernatorial elections have PDP and APGA/ LP as the front runners, APC means political suicide for any Igbo politician.

pazienza:
Btw, you noticed that the desire to be in tandem with the central government, then controlled by PDP was what stunted APGA development in Igboland, but somehow, your solution to this problem is for Ndiigbo for rush again to Abuja to prostrate before your Arewa-Odua masters in APC, how exactly will that help us, haven't we already done that with PDP?

Abeg carry that your APC and Buhari expired goods to your pay masters, no one in the SE wants it!

Curlieweed:


"When we get to the bridge...." Isn't strategy. Actually, it's anti-strategy. You don't accept a flawed candidate because your enemy seems to like him. You reject him, period.

You should stop repeating meaningless cliches about putting "your eggs in one basket". What does that even mean? We should just decide to share ourselves evenly between Jonathan and Buhari? How do we achieve that? Maybe Igbos whose surnames start from "A" to "M" should vote Buhari while the rest should vote GEJ? This is a democracy. Damn it! How come no one is talking about the NE and NW putting "their eggs in one basket"?

Jonathan lost because he made the mistake of being born into a very tiny ethnic group. QED.

EUROBOMBER:


Ok, let us assume that your postulation works, that we present a strong Northern candidate against a Yoruba Osinbajo in 2019 or 2023 and our Northern candidate wins, he will do his two terms of 8yrs till 2031! That means we might have to wait till 2031 to even present an Igbo candidate for the job.

On the other hand, Buhari knows very well that Rochas has been loyal to him all through these years and all through his campaign even when nobody really could predict where victory would eventually swing. Since 1999, Nigeria has produced a Yoruba President (Obasanjo), a Northern President (Late Yar'adua of blessed memory), Jonathan from the SS and now Buhari from the core North. Any discerning mind can see that after Buhari finishes his time in office either in 2019 or 2023, power would move to the South and the only logical and reasonable thing would be to move it to the SE (The Igbo man). The Igbo man that stands the greatest chance of taking over from Buhari is Rochas! He is a man that is accepted and respected in the SW & North.

As far as I am concerned, option B is more viable.

pazienza:



I had long said, the Yorubas decision to vote against a SS/ SE candidate in the just concluded election has made the emergence of a future president from the south, via voting process, impossible. The have made. the North eternal presidents, the battle is now between the SW and SS/SE on who produces the VP. Any party that presents a southern president in the future will lose, because the rest of the south will align with the North to scuttle that southern president in exchange for a VP position from the North. Forget Igbo presidency, it's not going to happen, that's why those who can see are now seeing that outright secession is the only way we can achieve Igbo presidency. And having a unified political direction away from the APC controlled centre will help us achieve that.



When it comes to Ndiigbo, Nigerians don't apply logic

EUROBOMBER:


The bold part shows that hatred & bitterness has blinded you so that you can no longer see nor reason properly, I am done with you!

pazienza:



I had long said, the Yorubas decision to vote against a SS/ SE candidate in the just concluded election has made the emergence of a future president from the south, via voting process, impossible. They have made the North eternal presidents, the battle is now between the SW and SS/SE on who produces the VP. Any party that presents a southern president in the future will lose, because the rest of the south will align with the North to scuttle that southern president in exchange for a VP position from the North. Forget Igbo presidency, it's not going to happen, that's why those who can see are now seeing that outright secession is the only way we can achieve Igbo presidency. And having a unified political direction away from the APC controlled centre will help us achieve that.



When it comes to Ndiigbo, Nigerians don't apply logic, you are too blind to this fact.

In 1999, Ekwueme was a better consensus builder than Okorocha, had more non Igbo friends in high places, was more qualified than OBJ, it had been long we had an Igbo president then, yet twice he was humiliated by his PDP friends in the primaries, simply because he was Igbo.

After OBJ had been the Nigerian president just recently, Ndiigbo had not been for decades, yet APC picked a Yoruba man ahead of Okorocha and Amaechi as the VP.

If they couldn't give Okorocha the VP slot, it is quite naive of you to think they have plans of making him the president in the future, his crime is simple, he isn't Arewa-Odua, same crime GEJ was guilty of.

EUROBOMBER:


That is why I have said that the wisest thing for us to do is to split our eggs and put them in different baskets.

The APC should still control Imo state.

We need to change PDP in Abia state because the past two Governors there have done absolutely nothing except to steal and steal! We can replace PDP there with APGA or APC

Anambra can continue under APGA

Enugu & Ebonyi can remain with the PDP or we still give Ebonyi to APC.

Only a fool continues to do things the same way and expect a different result. We put all our eggs in the PDP basket with Jonathan who has now thrown the basket down the cliff so we must now spread our eggs and put them in different baskets.

ROCHAS IS THE MAN!

EUROBOMBER:


Again let us stop deceiving ourselves here. In 1999, it was obvious that the Yorubas should be compensated after their son Abiola who clearly won a free and fair election was denied his mandate, imprisoned and killed along with his wife Kudirat. There is no way Ekwueme could have emerged as the PDP candidate. Ekwueme lost the PDP primaries again to Obasanjo in 2003 because of the power of incumbency since Obasanjo was a sitting president and firmly in charge of the party.

APC would have committed political suicide by giving the VP slot to Rochas or even Amaechi because from all indications, it was so obvious that the minds of the people of the SS/SE was made up to vote for Jonathan even if the heavens would fall. As a good politician, you do not sideline your places of strong hold. Even up till now see the hatred towards Rochas because he is in APC. Let us be pragmatic here abeg.

pazienza:



Well, a wise man once said " put all your eggs in our basket, and watch that basket closely" .divided attention does no one no good.

Before now, Ndiigbo were being accused of not having a United voice, of being disjointed and puttng our eggs in different directions and lacking no unity of purpose. The Yorubas were being praised for having a unity of purpose. Now Ndiigbo are learning to speak with one voice, we have found a unity of purpose, but now we are being accused of outing our eggs in oit basket. It's obvious we can't please our detractors.


It is a good thing that we now have a unity of purpose, we now have a block vote, it will serve us well in the future.Rochas must be voted out of Douglas house and replaced by either APGA or PDP.


By the way, how cab our detractors accuse us of puting our eggs in one basket? Are Okorocha, Ogbonna onu, Ngige and co no longer Igbos in APC? If they have any plans for Ndiigbo, let they demonstrate it by elevating our brothers in the midst to enviable positions like the VP and presidency, let them woo us, we must give them elective posts in Igboland, before they prove to us what they have in stock for us.

pazienza:



The SW needed compensation, but the SE didn't? so when a Yoruba candidate is involved, performances and. abilities doesn't count, only regional compensations count, but when a SS/SE person is involved, regional compensations won't matter, performance because the watch word. Are yo too blind to see how they keep shifting the goal post to suit their innate tribal agendas? Are you that blind? OBJ was a bad president, but no change was needed, only regional compensations matters!


So, you are implying that the SW didn't vote for Buhari because if the purported change, that was only a camouflage, they voted for Buhari for tribal sentiments, because he had a Yoruba VP, for if that wasn't the case, Okorocha/ Amaechi regions of origin won't have mattered to them, all that would have mattered would have been Buhari and the Change he promised.

Of course, those of us who can see, already know that.


So, the question for you is, is it not naivety on your part to think the Yorubas having worked so far for APC, will jettison their presidential plans for Okorocha, if they couldn't jettison their VP plan for him? Aren't you asking for water from the moon?

pazienza:



The SW needed compensation, but the SE didn't? so when a Yoruba candidate is involved, performances and. abilities doesn't count, only regional compensations count, but when a SS/SE person is involved, regional compensations won't matter, performance because the watch word. Are yo too blind to see how they keep shifting the goal post to suit their innate tribal agendas? Are you that blind? OBJ was a bad president, but no change was needed, only regional compensations matters!


So, you are implying that the SW didn't vote for Buhari because if the purported change, that was only a camouflage, they voted for Buhari for tribal sentiments, because he had a Yoruba VP, for if that wasn't the case, Okorocha/ Amaechi regions of origin won't have mattered to them, all that would have mattered would have been Buhari and the Change he promised.

Of course, those of us who can see, already know that.


So, the question for you is, is it not naivety on your part to think the Yorubas having worked so far for APC, will jettison their presidential plans for Okorocha, if they couldn't jettison their VP plan for him? Aren't you asking for water from the moon?

EUROBOMBER:


Brother, let us tell ourselves the plain truth, we have always had block votes since 1999 but we always vote for the person that it is so obvious will win or Any Government in Power. Check it since 1999. It is the same thinking that made us throw in all we had for Jonathan but life has thought us that we should never say "Never of impossible."

The oneness of voice and unity we want is to agree to queue up behind one of our own and give him all our support and I see the best man to enjoy such support from us is Rochas.

Rochas is close to Buhari who will be the Nigerian president soon, he is also accepted and respected in the SW and North. Common Sense should tell us that Rochas needs all the support he can get from us now instead of calling for his sack fro Government house Owerri.

If you are saying we should put all our eggs in the PDP basket then what happens to our brothers in sisters than have been languishing in poverty and neglect under PDP Governors since 1999? Should we allow them continue to suffer just because we must remain with PDP? No way! PDP must be kicked out in Abia state for dismal performance if we have the interest of our people at heart.. PDP should be replaced there with APGA or APC and I also suggest the Theodore Orji be dragged to an Elections Petitions Tribunal so that he can be disgraced and stolen mandate recovered from him in the interest of our people of Abia State.

Curlieweed:


The fact that Roaches was fired from NAMA for filching $1 million means that we will be stupid to queue behind him. If the "North" and SW love him so much, they can vote for him but we should reject him. If you were even promoting Ngige, it would have made more sense not a career criminal like Okorocha.

barcanista:
The PDP cannot afford to lose any seat in the SE and SS to the conspiracy called APC. I can beat my chest that Rivers State is ready to kickout every reminant of Amaechi from government house. Is Imo ready?


For the record, the APC is all about selfish interest of some undemocratic and corrupt few.

The same way u beat ur chest and publicly declared that Jonah-daft will sweep SW especially Ogun. U are fast becoming a joke, chest beating homo sapien.

EUROBOMBER:
Why is it that our people are so myopic and don't understand the dynamics of politics? Someone is saying that we should play opposition but Berem asked a very sensible question here and that is What happened to APGA? How did we manage APGA which was supposed to be a sort of Igbo regional party? Another problem we have is arrogance and refusal to accept our mistakes. No regrets that we supported Jonathan but the Jonathan himself was not smart enough to win the elections; we did our best for him but he failed himself and now we must move on.

Any discerning Igbo person can see that we must form strong ties with the Buhari-led center. People are saying that we should kick out Rochas and I ask why? Rochas is a man that is acceptable by the Yorubas and the Northerners and can play a key figure in building bridges between these two power blocks. We MUST keep Rochas politically relevant and he MUST be returned as Governor of Imo State on Saturday.

Let me also state that we have no moral justifications to start placing demands on Buhari whom we massively rejected on 28th of March. What we should do now is to approach him with humility and make him see reason why he should not neglect us in his government.

Demdem:


Not only APGA, what about PPA? how did u handle PPA?

EUROBOMBER:


That is what I have been asking my people but they have not provided any reasonable answer.

EUROBOMBER:

Let me also state that we have no moral justifications to start placing demands on Buhari whom we massively rejected on 28th of March. What we should do now is to approach him with humility and make him see reason why he should not neglect us in his government.

anonimi:


Is a president expected to administer only the states that voted for him instead of the whole country?

Is that how Jonathan governed?

Is that how Obama & Cameron govern US & UK respectively

EUROBOMBER:
@Scatterboss, I copied Babyosisi on that thread so that she can see what my brothers are doing. She was not too happy with me because of the peace thread I opened yesterday and I explained to her that the behaviour of some of our people made me open that thread.

The OP who started that thread which has now been removed by the MODs is doing exactly what I described to Babyosisi yesterday and I wanted her to come see for herself.

I don't do tribalism or roforofo things anymore mehn.

Scatterboss:


Good, I was surprised and reason i said am confused again. I dont know why some peeps wont grow up, we have all done it in the past and its nothing anymore. I have learn to move on if anyone insult me, no time. God bless you as you continue to sue for peace.

One love broda.

EUROBOMBER:


I am not saying that Buhari should only govern over states that voted for him, he has even said that he will be a president of all Nigerians. What I am saying is that we should have some shame at least. The people that voted for Buhari have not started tabling needs to Buhari only for those that massively rejected him to start making long lists and shouting about what Buhari will do for them. Let us have some shame please, it is good sometimes.
Duuh, why do you people always like quoting someone out of context

EUROBOMBER:


Thank you jare, all these boys don't know that we have done this thing taya. I just shake my head when i see some people insulting me but I let them go. That era is over for me.

Dive-Bomber

anonimi:


Yorubas rejected OBJ massively in 1999. Did that stop him from delivering on his mandate to the ENTIRE country.

Is that how the leaders of Europe that you have in your moniker behave

Or is your moniker a statement that you want to bomb out their democratic values?

owobokiri:


As you can see, this thread is for some serious contributions from reasonable characters. Your gala and lacassera analyses should be left for your fellow motor park touts

Emmaowolabia:
Some people just sit at their village square out of joblessness and start typing on nairaland. Do u need a prophet to know ur position or u want to be told lies? Well as for what u will get, the answer is what u contribute. I believe that if ur father refused to pay ur school fee while u were young, despite u were sure he had it but decided to spent it on unprofitable adventures, u will be reluctant to feed him when u eventually become successful. No witch hunting, no sentiment. Talking about Ngige, Ameachi and my governor my governor. I think they saw d wind of change coming and call u u guys but just like in d days of Noah, many of u called them fools and only few reasonable( to be reasonable u get to pretend to be foolish) individuals stand by them. Like it or jump into abadaba lake, in d next 8yrs or more, u guys' desire will be met in line with their influence. They are now d SE/SS heros. Chai, these are josephs in kings palace. When u guys come for food, they will be called to access ur face then pass judgements on whether ur plate be fully filled or half filled

EUROBOMBER:
I can see that you don't reason well, please stay on the sidelines.