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Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by okpismart: 11:17pm On Dec 16, 2010
Pls let's Debate on This Topic:
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Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by chyz(m): 11:18pm On Dec 16, 2010
Yes, if Atiku is not jailed.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by yeswecan(m): 11:24pm On Dec 16, 2010
There is no such thing as a failed state neither is there a third world.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by yeswecan(m): 11:24pm On Dec 16, 2010
There is no such thing as a failed state neither is there a third world region
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Alxmyr(m): 11:31pm On Dec 16, 2010
Look inwards first.
Is your home a failed home?
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by violent(m): 11:46pm On Dec 16, 2010
the following attributes, proposed by the Fund for Peace, are often used to characterize a failed state:

- loss of physical control of its territory, or of the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force therein,

-erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions,

-an inability to provide reasonable public services, and

-an inability to interact with other states as a full member of the international community.

Often a failed nation is characterized by social, political, and economic failure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state

Judge Nigeria by those attributes and conclude
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by aljharem(m): 11:48pm On Dec 16, 2010
yes it is angry
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Blazay(m): 11:51pm On Dec 16, 2010
How many times will Nigerians ask themselves this question. Even wiki leaks told us the same thing.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by strangerf: 12:09am On Dec 17, 2010
No, it is not

Somalia is a failed state
Haiti is a failed state
Honduras, Colombia, And Cuba have all failed

No, Nigeria is on the brink of failing, but hasnt failed yet.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by okpismart: 12:13am On Dec 17, 2010
strangerf:

No, it is not

Somalia is a failed state
Haiti is a failed state
Honduras, Colombia, And Cuba have all failed

No, Nigeria is on the brink of failing, but hasnt failed yet.
Nigeria will become one if we fail in 2011
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Missy85(f): 12:41am On Dec 17, 2010
Nigeria's not a 'failed state,' but it is failing in too many key areas.

Surprisingly, many Nigerians still buy into the propaganda that it's the giant of Africa. By population, yes, but not by much else.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by OchiAgha2(m): 12:48am On Dec 17, 2010
A state could be said to "succeed" if it maintains, in the words of Max Weber, a monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force within its borders. When this is broken (e.g., through the dominant presence of warlords, paramilitary groups, or terrorism), the very existence of the state becomes dubious, and the state becomes a failed state.

Culled from Aid Watchers

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Nigeria is a failed state due to its inability to protect its citizens as well as having rebels operating within its borders.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by strangerf: 12:57am On Dec 17, 2010
Who cares about Max weber
Is the US a failed state?

Are KKK and the Black panther not paramilitary organisations?
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Osama10(m): 1:01am On Dec 17, 2010
Na today, e don tay Naija fail now.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Blazay(m): 1:19am On Dec 17, 2010
strangerf:

Who cares about Max weber
Is the US a failed state?

Are KKK and the Black panther not paramilitary organisations?

Erm. . .sonny.
Not quite.
Hmm. . . wasted Princeton school fees. cheesy
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by okpismart: 9:10am On Dec 17, 2010
Thank u all 4 ur contribution and 4 sharing ur knowledge
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Nobody: 9:22am On Dec 17, 2010
*modified. Sighed
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by strangerf: 9:24am On Dec 17, 2010
^^^

Iro lepa Aunty mi

Nigeria has not failed

And, it is not failing

It is not America for sure, nevertheless it is a well functioning state!
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by strangerf: 9:25am On Dec 17, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

*modified. Sighed

Mummy mi

Why ti eshe delete post yin?
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Nobody: 9:36am On Dec 17, 2010
strangerf:

Mummy mi

Why ti eshe delete post yin?

Lol now you're making me feel old. Life begins after 40, they say. I'm 43 and still hip.

strangerf:

^^^

Iro lepa Aunty mi

Nigeria has not failed

And, it is not failing

It is not America for sure, nevertheless it is a well functioning state!

My dear, that country has scatter scatter.

A country that cannot protect, provide, and secure for its own citizen.

A country where you have opposing forces [boko harams in the North, Kidnapping in the East, Millitants in the ND]

A country where the idea of human rights is laughable, where brutality prevails.

A country where the politicians are more corrupt that the drug dealers in Mexico.

A country where election is not free and fair, where people are coerced to vote for a particular party.

A country where election becomes . . . .

Freedom of religion is gradually receding. You have gay Christian churches in Igboland being threatened to get burned down etc.


Give me your reasons why you you think Nigeria has not yet failed.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by pingpong1: 9:49am On Dec 17, 2010
Not yet but it will fail completely in 2015 when Ndi Igbo are denied the presidency.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by strangerf: 9:52am On Dec 17, 2010
^^^

Empty threat!
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by pingpong1: 9:58am On Dec 17, 2010
@strangerf - deep down you know its true na.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by SeanT21(f): 10:22am On Dec 17, 2010
Nigeria failed 10 years ago. Haha.JK

It’s NOT. I don’t believe in the term "failed state". Every country can succeed if they want too
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Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by okpismart: 11:00am On Dec 17, 2010
Keep sharing ur Knowledge. . .We are all learning something (well i'm no 1).

But i Believe Nigeria has not failed yet. . . but until 2011 (keeping Atiku's msg in mind)
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by thweraja10: 1:19pm On Dec 17, 2010
Lailai failed Ke?

Its not a failed state at least things are still working here.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by Yorubah(m): 1:22pm On Dec 17, 2010
No 1 failed state in Africa.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by jason12345: 1:29pm On Dec 17, 2010
no, its not. you cannot yet categorise nigeria as a failed state but it might be soon. Lets His will be done!!!

ping pong:

Not yet but it will fail completely in 2015 when Ndi Igbo are denied the presidency.

grin grin grin. na wa for this una threat ooo!!!

ping pong:

deep down you know its true na.

don't deceive yourselves. you cannot make it a failed state. the only groups that can make it a failed state are the Whole of south or the north. chikena!!! you would probably be branded as a terrorist group if you try anything.
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by KJV: 1:30pm On Dec 17, 2010
Culled from wikipedia

The term failed state is often used by political commentators and journalists to describe a state perceived as having failed at some of the basic conditions and responsibilities of a sovereign government. In order to make this definition more precise, the following attributes, proposed by the Fund for Peace, are often used to characterize a failed state:
loss of physical control of its territory, or of the monopoly on the legitimate use of physical force therein,
erosion of legitimate authority to make collective decisions,
an inability to provide reasonable public services, and
an inability to interact with other states as a full member of the international community.
Often a failed nation is characterized by social, political, and economic failure.
Common characteristics of a failing state include a central government so weak or ineffective that it has little practical control over much of its territory; non-provision of public services; widespread corruption and criminality; refugees and involuntary movement of populations; and sharp economic decline [1].
The level of government control required to avoid being considered a failed state varies considerably amongst authorities.[2] Furthermore, the declaration that a state has "failed" is generally controversial and, when made authoritatively, may carry significant geopolitical consequences.[2]



I say a big YES that Naija is a totally failedededededededededed, state

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Failed_state
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by REALTRUTH1: 1:32pm On Dec 17, 2010
From and even before the foundation of NIGERIA,,,,Nigeria was designed not work,,,It has never been a country,,rather a conglomerate of kingdoms been forced to dwell together without their freewill consent. Its raping,,,you have sex with someone without the person's consent.
Its evidently clear that the signs of a failed state are vividly obvious. And a country can not continue to operate the way Nigeria is operating,,that is the reason for the rise of Kidnapping,,,OPC,,Bakasi Boys, MEND,,,etc,,,
However,, Nigeria can only become a country when and only when there is a sincere call for a SOVEREIGN NATIONAL CONFERENCE (SNC),,,that would both DEFINE and REDEFINE how the country should be operated or to DEFINE or REDEFINE the basis for our CONTINUED existence.
"NIGERIA is a mere geographical expression",,,,LATE Pa Awolowo.

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Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by COMPAQ(m): 1:44pm On Dec 17, 2010
Not yet, but its taking the steps to getting there, !!
Re: Debate: Is Nigeria A Failed State? by oludashmi(f): 2:00pm On Dec 17, 2010
Ileke-IdI:

Lol now you're making me feel old. Life begins after 40, they say. I'm 43 and still hip.

My dear, that country has scatter scatter.

A country that cannot protect, provide, and secure for its own citizen.

A country where you have opposing forces [boko harams in the North, Kidnapping in the East, Millitants in the ND]

A country where the idea of human rights is laughable, where brutality prevails.

A country where the politicians are more corrupt that the drug dealers in Mexico.

A country where election is not free and fair, where people are coerced to vote for a particular party.

A country where election becomes . . . .

Freedom of religion is gradually receding. You have gay Christian churches in Igboland being threatened to get burned down etc.

Give me your reasons why you you think Nigeria has not yet failed.

In addition. . .
A country known as the 5th or 6th largest oil producing but have failed refineries, fuel scarcity and queues everytime

A country that is just planning to install CCTV at airports at age 50 of independence but 96 years old

A country that still imports toothpick and matches at 50 of independence

A country that cant guarantee an hour power supply out of 24hrs for its citizens

A country where less than 500 legislatives spend 25% revenue and about 150million others spend 75%

A country that has cattles but still imports fresh milk

A country where poultries are finer than classrooms and graduates cant write about themselves

A country where you dont visit an exam centre but get the best result while those who read have to keep writing annually

A country where you have a monthly budget for mechanics cos your car will need him due to ditches (not potholes cos their sizes are bigger than the biggest pot) on the roads

A country where you walk and look back every min for security reasons

A country where robbers inform police of their upcoming operation in a particular area

A country where road is the only functioning means of transportation

A country where you spend 3hrs in traffic for a journey of 30 mins

A country where labour union is only for increase in civil servants salary while foreigners use citizens without pay and some citizens get maimed without compensation.

A country where nurses and doctors bark at patients (frustration) while patients beg with his money

A country where police rounds up innocent pple on streets and take them to prison without explanation or trial

Well, the answer is left for individuals to decide if its a failed state or successful one.

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