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| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:19am On Apr 07, 2015 |
Maamin:Yes there are, some people that I post too say that the Father and the Son are one person, so I'm not bringing the Holy Spirit into it, imagine the confusion then. And it's easier to explain that the Father and the Son are more than one person because of John 1:1 where two persons in God are mentioned, who are God and the Word, the Father and the Son. Although they don't believe that scripture, they say God and the Word are one person, they confuse God with person. jw don't believe that verse either, they say the Word is "a" god. There are verses that say, in the end times there will be apostasy. And there sure is little truth posted here, some posters are very good, I add. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:40am On Apr 07, 2015 |
Maamin:Talk about ha ha's, this believer says they are three persons yet they are One God. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:53am On Apr 07, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:You have been shown the Truth many times, you reject it. The Word is with God and the Word "IS" God The word became Jesus Christ. You don't know the Truth because you reject the Truth. And you go round and around in circles. READ UR BIBLE ...Ha ha, I should say to you, get a Bible, an unchanged Bible. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by Maamin(m): 1:14am On Apr 07, 2015*. Modified: 9:48am On Apr 07, 2015 |
johnw74:It is sometimes a jaw dropping claim if you get to hear what people consider in the ideology of God talking about the Triniterians most especially. In as much as I dont know it all, but one sure thing is that there is but only one and only true God and he is Yahweh. Shalom aleikhem |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 2:02am On Apr 07, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:You cannot back up your claim that there is another god with God in the Godhead, so you change the subject, very weak. Rev 1:1 "God-Jesus-Angels-John(Man)" if Jesus is the same as God there why didn't the revelation come from him?Jesus is the same as God, He is the Word, it didn't come from Jesus because it came from the Father God, they are two seperate persons, One God, the Father can give Jesus a revelation, and vise versa would be OK with me. You haven't anything at all have you, round and around with the same things over and over again. It's because you reject the scripturesa given you and believe changed scripture by jw that suits jw doctrines. riko:Jehovah is called mighty God and, Jehovah is called Almighty God, both titles are referring to the same God Jehovah. Jesus is also called mighty God. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 2:14am On Apr 07, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:Almighty God is mighty God: Deu_7:21 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD (Jehovah) thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible. Gen_17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD (Jehovah) appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. Jesus is also called mighty God. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 2:33am On Apr 07, 2015*. Modified: 3:34am On Apr 07, 2015 |
Maamin:Y'hovah (God) is the one and only True God, The Word is the one and only true God, they are two persons, One God. King David said: The LORD said to my Lord Yahovah said to adon adon meaning soverign ruler God said to the Word Father said to son. Psalm 110 |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by Maamin(m): 9:46am On Apr 07, 2015 |
johnw74:Here is little more explanation on that: Please note that the King James Version (used here) designates the Hebrew name Jehovah (or Yahweh) with "LORD" spelled with all letters capitalized; Adonai, meaning "Lord" or "Master," is designated by "Lord;" and "Elohim," is translated as "God." Thus, in Deut. 4:35, for example, the phrase "the LORD he is God," would be literally translated, "Jehovah, he is Elohim." (In those instances were Adonai is used as a compound with Jehovah, the latter term is spelled GOD, so that the compound name "Lord GOD" designates the Hebrew, "Adonai Jehovah" .1. Deuteronomy 4:35,39 — Unto thee it was shown, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. (39) Know therefore this day, and consider it in thine heart, that the LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else. 2. Deuteronomy 6:4 — Hear, O Israel: The LORD thy God is one LORD. [Note in Mark 12:28-34 how Jesus and a Jewish scribe he encountered understood this text.] There is none unto(or equal) to YHWH..this is one undeniable truth. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 11:36am On Apr 07, 2015 |
Maamin:It's a simple truth. You are right there is none equal to YHVH YHVH plus a few more letters is the name of God God is, God and the Word, there is none equal to God. God and the Word is God Father and Son is God Yahovah and adon adon is God |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by RikoduoSennin(m): 1:35pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
johnw74:I will disagree with you: An Almighty God is not the same as A Mighty God. Dictionary: Almighty means ALL powerful while Mighty means just Powerful of strong. Note both are Titles not Names. Almighty is synonymous with the term THE MOST HIGH. So As Jesus is identified with being A Mighty God does not make him or automatically qualify him to an Almighty God status, That qualification remains to be seen. The fact is Jesus is not All powerful! And Never was it insinuated in the Bible that he is. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by RikoduoSennin(m): 2:01pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
johnw74:I don't believe in Godhead, My God does not have three face on his head. So I have no idea what you are talking about. Mediators mediate between two parties not one party that is a fact. So Jesus can't be called a mediator if he broker a deal between Humans and Himself (Almighty God) can he? Unless, he is brokering a deal between Humans and His own personal God (YHWH) as a middle man hence he said "No one comes to the Father except through me". If you want me to explain how the word/Jesus was WITH GOD---Read Acts chapter 7. Stephen's vision. Phrases like "sit/stand at my right hand comes to mind". "The son in the bossom position of the Father". johnw74:Jesus is the Same as GOD? Do you just realise that you used SIMILE (compare TWO things together). Same as? So according to you, Jesus is God and The Father(YHWH) is God, yet they are two seperate persons (with different personalities I presume). If that is the case, I see that they are TWO Gods because like it all not the Word "God" is a title given to some type of beings. And don't tell me that because Jesus is called God that makes him "one" with The Father because that is just bugus as Abraham being also "one" with Jesus because he was called LORD in the Bible. I am still waiting for a time when Jesus will give "The Father" a revelation to give out or send him on an errand or order him to do what Jesus wants solely for himself. johnw74:You are right in all counts here, but unlike Jehovah, Jesus was not called The Almighty God, hence the difference between them. Or are you saying that Jesus is Jehovah too? |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by nutarious(f): 2:02pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
i insist, because people found it hard to let go of their beleive its the Hardest thigh to doon EARTH, Jesus met a stiffer and more doctrinized society than u guys and he could only teach them what the GOD head wants from us, but very carefull to call himself GOD..........COS LIKE YOU GUYS who stood by ur beleive many also would have easily rejected him and call him blasphemous . to JEHOVAL WITNESS, i have a question and am done argueing, if you beleive there is anly one GOD and JESUS is not among the GOD head.........................................................................then how do u solve this statement, noone can get to the father except thru me? how do u serve God without the sacrificial lamb? 2= what does the holy spirit mean to ur christian theology,? 3= how many of you have had a spirittual fellowship with GOD straight forward, pls answer, i want to know how u fellowship. cos i await it to be in line with the book of acts and the early church? since this is a spiritual page, i wanna learn how u grow spiritually and fellowship with out holyspirit and connection to Jesus..........................................................pls dont be evasive i careless on who is right or not but i wanna lern from any Jehova witness spirirtual growth and how they attain it....................... waiting? |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by nutarious(f): 2:35pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
A SPIRITUALLY ORGANISATION WITHOUT SUBSTITLES, SEEMS TO ME LIKE A PRISON........................... even in the early church there are versions, some appolos, some peters some pauls,.................. so it is now some adeboye, some tb joshua, some ......etc............. but JW, seems to me like a close loop, as a psychologist i think a church that wont allow mixing under the body of christ is more of a prison yard that church............................ if i like tommorw i decide to leave my church and move to redeem, same christ, i can decide to move to rhema or winners its my gospel right and i can do that if i like, anythign tht runs contrary to this is ........................HYPNOSIS. LOL, at this age and time, i doubt if a sound mind would like to stay under a doctrine without proper investigation.......................... MOST of us were born christian, we got born again by conviction.........................................if u found ur fellowship to be more of a devotion and not convintion, u gotta start Digging................................. Last sunday, BABA KUMUYI told the whole church he is going to change some old long doctrines because he said it aint allowing growth in church, me just dey lafff, and some has been under such doctrines for years trapped, now a new set of doctrine is coming out................................................. this i called living under another mans mind, be freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee freeeeeeee like a bird, then u can be able to see with ur naked eyes................................. HEAVEN IS THE TARGET AND NEVER CHURCH, there wont be redeem in HEAVEN nor JW.......................... GOD BLESS US ALLL |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by CAPTIVATOR: 5:54pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
johnw74:^ ^ - SHOW me where Jesus is called " the TRUE GOD" ? |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by bingbagbo(op): 8:51pm On Apr 07, 2015 |
[quote author=CAPTIVATOR post=32454296]^ ^ - SHOW me where Jesus is called " the TRUE GOD" ? [/qu JOHN 1:1 2 PETER 1:1 TITUS 2:13 1 CORINTHIANS 1:24 COLLOSIANS 1:16..... JOHN 14 IN FACT THE ENTIRE BIBLE BEARS WITNESS THAT JESUS IS THE TRUE GOD |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 1:24am On Apr 08, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:You disagree with the bible. Deu_7:21 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD (Jehovah) thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible. Gen_17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD (Jehovah) appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 2:02am On Apr 08, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:If you don't see written in the Bible the exact quote "Jesus is the true God" then you don't believe it, are you 8 years old? jw doesn't know the Bible, is certain. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by CAPTIVATOR: 6:04am On Apr 08, 2015 |
johnw74:' ' I asked for EVIDENCE .... But u got none ! Calling Jesus " True God" when ITS NOT WRITTEN IN THE BIBLE ! If u know the bible u wont have commit such error . |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by RikoduoSennin(m): 7:22am On Apr 08, 2015 |
johnw74:I don't disagree with the Bible. It seems you don't even try to understand that; The title "Almighty God" is greater than Just "Mighty God" ( just like in Ogoniland, "Beremene" - Big/Head Chief is bigger than Just "Chief", Even though the one called beremene is firstly a Chief like other chief, he is far superior to other chiefs by virtual of him being Head/wield more power and influence) |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 11:36am On Apr 08, 2015 |
CAPTIVATOR:I have, and others also have posted much scripture showing Jesus the word is God, along with Jehovah. You reject that scripture, and I for one am not going to keep posting it. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:10pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:You do and you must be blind to it. Your jw nwt has the word "great" instead of the word "mighty" which means the same. It seems you don't even try to understand that; The title "Almighty God" is greater than Just "Mighty God" ( just like in Ogoniland, "Beremene" - Big/Head Chief is bigger than Just "Chief", Even though the one called beremene is firstly a Chief like other chief, he is far superior to other chiefs by virtual of him being Head/wield more power and influence)Yes a big chief is greater than just a ordinary chief, but you don't understand that mighty God and Almighty God is applied to the one Jehovah. Jehovah is called both mighty God on one ocassion and Almighty God on another ocassion. And so Jehovah is both mighty God and Almighty God, meaning, with Jehovah mighty and Almighty mean the same because they are describing Him on diffrent ocassions. Perhaps you think that on one ocassion Jehovah was not as mighty as on the other ocassion. or perhaps you don't believe Deu_7:21. There are other verses where Jehovah is called mighty God. Gen_49:24 But his bow abode in strength, and the arms of his hands were made strong by the hands of the mighty God of Jacob; (from thence is the shepherd, the stone of Israel Deu_7:21 Thou shalt not be affrighted at them: for the LORD thy God is among you, a mighty God and terrible. Psa_50:1 A Psalm of Asaph. The mighty God, even the LORD, hath spoken, and called the earth from the rising of the sun unto the going down thereof. Psa_132:2 How he sware unto the LORD, and vowed unto the mighty God of Jacob; Psa_132:5 Until I find out a place for the LORD, an habitation for the mighty God of Jacob. Isa_10:21 The remnant shall return, even the remnant of Jacob, unto the mighty God. Jer_32:18 Thou shewest lovingkindness unto thousands, and recompensest the iniquity of the fathers into the bosom of their children after them: the Great, the Mighty God, the LORD of hosts, is his name, Hab_1:12 Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my God, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty God, thou hast established them for correction. Jehovah is called mighty God eight times in the OT, Jehovah is called Almighty God three times in the OT. Gen_17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. Eze_10:5 And the sound of the cherubims' wings was heard even to the outer court, as the voice of the Almighty God when he speaketh. Rev_19:15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by RikoduoSennin(m): 3:13pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
johnw74:Well, it is one man's (your) opinion! The argument is between Mighty God and Almighty God NOT about "Great" or NWT, PLEASE!! johnw74:@ bold section, You still don't get me. John is a Chief. John is a Big chief. James is a Chief. Q: Does the Fact that James is address as "Chief" make him a "Big chief" Q: Does the Fact that John can be called a "Chief" does that make him and James equal, because James is also a "Chief" Q: As John is a Chief does that mean he is NOT the "Big Chief" of the community or does John being the "Big Chief" stop him from being refer to as just "Chief" on some occasions? If John is address as just "Chief" does that demote him from being the "Big Chief" |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by nutarious(f): 6:33pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
lol, self denials......................... U SAID ALMIGHTY GOD IS DIFT FROM MIGHTY GOD,.................................. HE POSTED 9 MIGHTY GOD FROM OLD TESTAMENT.....................SAME GOD 3 ALMIGHTY GOD ...............................................SAME GOD YET U STILL ARGUEING,..........................LOL CONTUNU......................................... |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by estacyresource: 6:49pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
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| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by Maamin(m): 7:58pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
nutarious:It is obvious you are just arguing for the sake of argument..you dont seem to understand what RikoduoSennin is saying. We sometimes call God 'Oba' In Benin they also call their king 'Oba' Does that set God and the Oba of Benin on the same power, equality and level? In as much as God is called Mighty and Almighty does not negate the fact that he is still greater than the Son regardless if Christ was called Mighty or Almighty. God rules! Shalom aleikhem! |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by nutarious(f): 9:53pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
Maamin:ur Arquement is lame......................... u gave examples to are totally not synonymous to what he said............................... GOD and OBA benin are two chAracter from ur example.................................. but he gave scriptural reference to the old testament of same GOD been called ALMIGHTY GOD and MIGHTY GOD..................................... what u are opining is that this are two dift GOD and as such ur point is valid, yet you know the biblical refrences is SAME GOD . thats y i said u are self denying, the word is ELOHIM and its repeated in the original script to refrence same GOD,i wonder why you keep on giving examples using two characters that are dift,........................ jews knew and serve only ONE GOD saying mighty GOD or ALMIGHTY GOD refers to the same GOD...................................................... |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by Maamin(m): 10:51pm On Apr 08, 2015 |
nutarious:It is obvious you dont understand my point..probably making you as the one wallowing in self denial. Let me try another method for you, using two characters that are different is the glaring point I want you to see...if God is called master and a mere chinese boss is also called master here on earth..does it make God seems anything lesser than who he is? Besides this are just titles. You really need to take a chilled pill to calm down, read and understand before making any comment. If the same God we serve is called King and we also call some of our traditional leaders here on earth King does it set God at equal standards with our earthly kings are they the same?. There is no biggy Saying Mighty and Almighty God is used to address the father in the bible..same Mighty God is used to address the Son. Does that in anyway makes them the same person? No! Are they equal? No!. Same thing applies here calling God(Yahweh) Mighty and in another verse Almighty does not reduce him any lesser because Jesus was addressed as Mighty too. Yahweh is called God Jesus is called God Yet Yahweh is God over Jesus..but they are both called God So Calling Satan God or god or GOD in the bible does it also makes him the same as God (Yahweh)?..and dont come running here with that lame excuse of small 'g' and capital letter 'G'.or else you will have to provide us with apparently uppercase and lowercase 'g' In the original Hebrew/Aramaic/Koine Greek which the old and new testament was initially written in. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 12:05am On Apr 09, 2015*. Modified: 1:50am On Apr 09, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:As usual when jw lose points he changes direction. The original comment by jw was saying, "there is a diffrence between mighty and Almighty" Now where Jehovah is concerned, (not two chiefs john and james) but one person, Jehovah, there is no diffrence between mighty and Almighty because He is called both. Unless He is mighty on some ocassions and Almighty on other ocassions, NOT. It's very simple, but jw go on and on and on complicating it to try and win points. Looking for truth is the way to go, not winning points for false beliefs. You remember me saying you - jw don't believe the scriptures, it's either you don't believe the scriptures or are blind to the scriptures, or want to remain in unbelief or are confused, perhaps deluded. God does cause delusion to those who don't believe. I, anyway believe along with scriptures that Jehovah is mighty God and Jehovah is Almighty God because they say so. And if God is mighty and Almighty then they mean the same when referring to Him. It's really easy, but you will have to think on it if you are entrenched in what you must believe. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 2:00am On Apr 09, 2015*. Modified: 4:04am On Apr 09, 2015 |
RikoduoSennin:There is only One True God now, it has always been that way, you don't have to wait to the end to have One true God, you can have One True God now instead of your mighty God and Almighty God, being two gods. My mighty and Almighty God is One God, He is Jehovah, and He is Jesus, God and the Word. Jehovah Himself is mighty and Almighty God but you don't believe those scriptures that say so. And you change the subject confusing the issue because you are wrong, and won't admit it but rather hang onto false doctrine. Why don't you tell Father God Jehovah that He Fathered a false god (a god), as you are telling us. If Jesus is an Angel then His Father Jehovah is also an Angel. But He isn't. Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by johnw74: 4:11am On Apr 09, 2015*. Modified: 4:34am On Apr 09, 2015 |
Anything that you worship is a god, some people worship other people, people and anything can be gods. A dog fathers a dog a human fathers a human a false god fathers a false god a god fathers a god God Fathers God the One True God Fathers the One True God It's simple for believing Christians. You may say but a human fathering another human is a diffrent person? so is Father God, Fathering Jesus Christ God, a diffrent person. As is in the beginning, God Jehovah and God the Word is different persons, One God. |
| Re: Answers To Jehovah Witnesses Devil-inspired Questions About JESUS CHRIST!!! by RikoduoSennin(m): 12:59pm On Apr 10, 2015 |
nutarious:Its a Shame that after following the thread for so long, you still don't understand the point I am trying to make neither the point being discussed. Let me be VERY CLEAR: I am not saying that Jehovah is not called A Mighty God or Almighty God. For a Fact they are among two of the many titles he holds. What is am hinting on is that Jesus is ONLY referred to A Mighty God, he is not addressed with the title "Almighty God". That is why I am hinting on the difference between the two Titles. If you are implying that there is not different between the two Titles (as regards scope of authority) then there is no point in discussing with you any further. |
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