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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 6:13pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


So you confirm that criminality is inherent in Nigerians?

Dont worry, the Kwere Kwere will soon be purged from our lands.
do you want to wreck your local economy?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:20pm On Apr 11, 2015
lezz:
indeed, Japan has successfully defeated china in the past. But if she as much as attempt to cough now, she will be obliterated out of the world map.

And I hate your ignorance. China is the king now in South east Asia, in economy, in power, politics and world play. Japan has been made insignificant by China. It is exactly what Nigeria does to you.

In all honesty, we don't have to meet up with you infrastructurally before bleeping you off.

Ok, your opinion is cool.

But factually speaking, Japan has the most powerfull navy in the region, followed by Korea

And with both as potoprotectorates of the US, they enjoy the protection of the US's nuclear arsenal.

China wouldent dare so much as look Japan in the eye.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 6:26pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ok, your opinion is cool.

But factually speaking, Japan has the most powerfull navy in the region, followed by Korea

And with both as potoprotectorates of the US, they enjoy the protection of the US's nuclear arsenal.

China wouldent dare so much as look Japan in the eye.
they needn't go to war. China is more powerful than Japan and more important. Japan being more technological advance doesn't change the fact.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 6:47pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ask the M23 about us.

As the LDF about us.

As the 400 dead Seleka about us.

Yes we did ask.

M23 said on the battlefield, the first army uniforms they saw in front was Tanzanian, next line they saw Malawian army uniforms, but they could not see the South African army because the Tanzanians and Malawians were already absorbing all the bullets while SANDF was too far behind.

LDF said the don't know any SANDF

I could not find a single Seleka dead body in Bangui after the fight, all I saw was a white flag hanging on an SANDF R-4 rifle and the flag was made of a brand of white p.ant commonly sold at Woolworth boutique in Johannesburg
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 6:54pm On Apr 11, 2015
agaugust:


Yes we did ask.

M23 said on the battlefield, the first army uniforms they saw in front was Tanzanian, next line they saw Malawian army uniforms, but they could not see the South African army because the Tanzanians and Malawians were already absorbing all the bullets while SANDF was too far behind.

LDF said the don't know any SANDF

I could not find a single Seleka dead body in Bangui after the fight, all I saw was a white flag hanging on an SANDF R-4 rifle and the flag was made of a brand of white p.ant commonly sold at Woolworth boutique in Johannesburg
.

You personally spoke to M23?

LDF should know about us, we conqoured their country in 24 hours and killed 100 of them.

Journalists spoke to m23 who confirmed they lost over 400 men
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:03pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


Ask the M23 about us.

As the LDF about us.

As the 400 dead Seleka about us.

The Tanzanians and Congolese did most of the fightings in the DRC.

Tiny losetho... LOL.

It's no longer 1500- 3000 dead Seleka, it is now 400.

All reports on the ground say you cowards and inept soldiers fled after taking a resounding beating. Infact the Seleka spokesman has this to say

"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Patchesagain: 7:09pm On Apr 11, 2015
Henry120:


The Tanzanians and Congolese did most of the fightings in the DRC.

Tiny losetho... LOL.

It's no longer 1500- 3000 dead Seleka, it is now 400.

All reports on the ground say you cowards and inept soldiers fled after taking a resounding beating. Infact the Seleka spokesman has this to say

"Seleka spokesperson Eric Massi said the rebels had broken through a line of South African soldiers during their push into the city."
How did they do most of the fighting when we contributed most of the troops.

You couldn't conqour tiny little Liberia

400 who are 100% confirmed - he said from ONE UNIT

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:11pm On Apr 11, 2015
andrewza:



Close enough that the Nigerian arty could fire 9km and hit hostile targets.
indeed,but not directly from the centre of the FOB.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:12pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


Well done - you defended against some rebels with technicals

how will that base stop a regular army? those trenches arent deep enough to provide protection against 105mm mortars - same with that bunker.

Supply shortages in your army is well documented, as is your lack of support

A section of motorized SANDF infantry would over-run it in an hour or so

We consistently damaged a vile terrorist group.

Your Special forces couldn't help but flee against farmers and little boys with hoes and cutlasses.

The SANDF is beyond pathetic.

"Bangui - South African soldiers in the Central African Republic are seeking safe passage to the airport after taking heavy losses during fighting with Seleka rebels, Reuters reports."



"Amy Martin of the UN's humanitarian agency, OCHA, told the BBC World Service that the SA troops had retreated to their barracks and were seeking safe passage to the airport."


All evidence points to the cowardice of SANDF troops, and the vice news video provides evidence that the Nigerian military is well resourced.



A supposed South-African Special forces could not stand against petty rebels, no evidence they can stand the weight of the Nigerian military.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:15pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


A detachment outpost - its called a patrol house

The base is surrounded by sandbag emplacements, the high sentry post is an early warning post which exploits the high visibility of a flat landscape

Your FOB is poorly defended/policed. Your lone sentry man looks absolutely bewildered, lost and open to enemy sniper.

Ineptitude at it's very height.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Nobody: 7:18pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


Training > experience

Proven by the fact that South African men training your men is what turned the tide of your war.

You cant compare a small detachment of 200 men fighting 3000km from home with no support to Nigeria getting its ass kicked in its own backyard.


The Nigerian government hired a Nigerian company to provide specific services.

Your Special forces in the CAR were roundly defeated by untrained farmers.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by andrewza: 7:19pm On Apr 11, 2015
EVarn:
indeed,but not directly from the centre of the FOB.


Even if it is on the front line. A place no experienced gunner wants to be it still means a mortar team could sneak close enough. They only need one lucky hit to causes a massive explosion.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:20pm On Apr 11, 2015
andrewza:
The airport yes, that was a major transit hub but the second base was not a transit hub but the only base that did it right where the guys in the abondon school. They had one room for ammo so you can there For keep accommodation away from that area.
Any FOB can serve as transit or reserve,currently konduga is peaceful,but troops fighting in the Goma,Kumshe and Gana axis could request for reinforcement and supplies at any time,the only two FOBs capable of providing immediate substatial support are Konduga and Bama.
So it isnt far fetched to conclude that Konduga is a major transit zone for troops and weapons.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 7:24pm On Apr 11, 2015
andrewza:



Even if it is on the front line. A place no experienced gunner wants to be it still means a mortar team could sneak close enough. They only need one lucky hit to causes a massive explosion.
a mortar team cannot bombard a target they cant see,to blow up konduga's weapon storage,a lot of accuracy and precision would be needed.fortunately,if you cant see or locate,then you cant hit.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 7:48pm On Apr 11, 2015
jl115:

Never in South Africa's history has there been any Anglo-Dutch people living in SA.
Go look up the meaning of Anglo-Dutch people!
the Anglo Saxons are the English who conquered the Boers who are early Dutch settlers also known as Afrikaans.
these people,anglo-Dutch owns and runs South Africa then and since.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by lezz(m): 8:19pm On Apr 11, 2015
MduZA:


you sound clueless that's why you seem not seeing what's happening in your country unless you are one of those typical ignorant Nigerians that we see on this forum...Desmond tutu and malema views are uniquely theirs and have rights to express them just like many Nigerians who wish to return to the Abacha regime...fact remains your country is pathetic that's why Nigerians are flocking to SA for green pastures,2 weeks back one of your cabinet ministers was seen queuing with ordinary south africans for medical checkup at the Chris hani baragwanath hospital,south African authorities were not aware of his visit,he flew all the way from your zooland to SA just for medical checkup,I have noticed that you mention south African tribes in every post,am not surprised....thats how you people play your primitive tribal games....i hear that igbos are no longer wanted in Lagos...yeses



South African police have arrested 17 people and opened murder cases after attacks on foreign nationals in Durban.

The violence comes in the wake of alleged comments by the Zulu king telling migrants to go home - although the he says he was mistranslated.

But Home Affairs Minister Malusi Gigaba has called on traditional leaders to stop making remarks that "could result in a loss of life".

At least 62 people died in xenophobic attacks that swept the country in 2008.

For the latest news, views and analysis see the BBC Africa Live page.





Following the alleged comments by King Goodwill Zwelithini at the end of March, 250 people have been attacked, mostly from the Democratic Republic of Congo, and foreign-owned shops have been looted in the port city of Durban.

More than 1,000 mainly African migrants have fled their homes, some going to police stations and other are being housed in tents on a sports field.
Zulu King Goodwill Zwelithini, like other traditional leaders, is widely respected
South Africa's Business Day newspaper reports that at least three people have been killed and that a Somali shopkeeper is in a critical condition.

Police spokesperson Maj Thulani Zwane told the BBC that the police do not know exactly how many people have been killed, but that some were South African nationals and some were foreigners.

'Ticking time bomb'

South African President Jacob Zuma's son, Edward, has come out in support of the Zulu king's alleged comments.
Thousands of African migrants have fled their homes around Durban fearing attack
"We need to be aware that as a country we are sitting on a ticking time bomb," he said, adding that foreigners were "taking over the country".

Raphael Baheybwa-Kambambire, president of Congolese Solidarity campaign, told the BBC that religious leaders met with Zulu monarch on Thursday.

King Zwelithini told them he was talking "only about those who don't have papers and documentation in South Africa".

Mr Gigaba said on Thursday evening that it was important not to incite violence.

"Africa in particular must not think that we hate fellow Africans so much that we are prepared to do the worst to cause them harm," he said.

On Wednesday, hundreds of people marched in front of the Durban's City Hall in protest against the xenophobic violence.

Durban-based journalist Jeff Wicks told the BBC's Newsday programme that it does not take much to stoke tensions.

Xenophobic violence flares up in townships where living conditions are poor for all those living there, irrespective of where they come from, he says.

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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by Msauza(m): 8:26pm On Apr 11, 2015
Nigerian troops got the real beating from Islamic militants on their backyard at home, where their full strength is. At home where all their weapons inventory is kept but still they contracted SA mercenaries who were based in Iraq to help them defeat BH. I don't think SANDF can ever do that shameful act. No wonder Jonathan lost his seat.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 8:46pm On Apr 11, 2015
Henry120:
gringringringringringringringrin

LMAO!!!!!!!

Is this what you call a base?

6 APC's for 1500 men
No Hesco
The sentry guy a perfect sitting duck.

LOL......... No wonder your poorly trained troops were disarmed and robbed in the Sudan.

Dumb fvcks!
Is this what you call a base?
What?Have you never seen a neat professional base before.
"6 APC's for 1500 men"
We had +- 200 men in Sudan mate!
"The sentry guy a perfect sitting duck."
?Sudan=desert=no cover , he could see for hundreds of km, thus basically impossible to be targeted without being seen.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 8:55pm On Apr 11, 2015
lezz:
nope, what's shocking is how a country of 55 years will bleep into insignificance a country that was growing steadily since over 300 years.

What's the diffeence between 4.8% & 5% ?
And you call that an estimate? You better start prepping yourself for worse news to save yourself a heart attack, because the glory days for south Africa is completely over.


Your economic growth you claim seems to be in sharp contrast to the ISS report.

During the Obasanjo administration, crude oil fell to $38 per barrel and Nigeria just shrugged it off. Oil is more than $50 today.


Hard times are ahead for you, my white Zulu boy
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/05/the-fall-in-oil-price-could-be-a-turning-point-for-nigerians-economy
http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2015/01/oil-prices-and-nigeria-0
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-31455031

"nope, what's shocking is how a country of 55 years will bleep into insignificance a country that was growing steadily since over 300 years. "
Uhm...South Africa was near bankrupt in the mid to late 80s.Secondly SAs economy is estimated to grow by more than 5% from 2018 and on.

And yes SAs economy grew by 4,1% beating estimates!
http://www.southafrica.info/news/business/gdp-250215.htm

"What's the diffeence between 4.8% & 5% ?"
0.2%
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 8:58pm On Apr 11, 2015
lezz:
Anglo-Dutch. Get used to it, son. I know you are bloody immigrant who can't identify with that term. Anglo =Old English or Anglosaxon.
Anglo-Dutch="Dutch people in the United Kingdom, also known as Anglo-Dutch people, include British people of Dutch ancestry and people born in the Netherlands who live in the United Kingdom. The 2001 UK Census recorded 40,438 Dutch-born people residing in the UK.[1]"
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 9:03pm On Apr 11, 2015
lezz:
the Anglo Saxons are the English who conquered the Boers who are early Dutch settlers also known as Afrikaans.
these people,anglo-Dutch owns and runs South Africa then and since.
There is a difference between Anglo people,Dutch people and Anglo-Dutch people.

"Dutch people in the United Kingdom, also known as Anglo-Dutch people, include British people of Dutch ancestry and people born in the Netherlands who live in the United Kingdom. The 2001 UK Census recorded 40,438 Dutch-born people residing in the UK."

"Boers who are early Dutch settlers also known as Afrikaans."
Uhm....No!!!!We are known as Afrikaners!!and we speak Afrikaans!get the difference?
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:19pm On Apr 11, 2015
EVarn:
a mortar team cannot bombard a target they cant see,to blow up konduga's weapon storage,a lot of accuracy and precision would be needed.fortunately,if you cant see or locate,then you cant hit.
Mortars are indirectly weapons you don't need too see the target, just have to know where it is.

People can stand behind that school and start throwing bombs.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 9:22pm On Apr 11, 2015
Patchesagain:


What exactly are you alluding to?

I have seen no 1.

Have you seen Armadillo? The Battle for Marja? Restrepo? Is this what winning looks like?

Vice in Syria? "War leaks" footage from Syria/Iraq/Ukraine?


Watched Restrepo,Armadillo and Korengal best modern war documentaries one can find!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:27pm On Apr 11, 2015
agaugust:


Yes we did ask.

M23 said on the battlefield, the first army uniforms they saw in front was Tanzanian, next line they saw Malawian army uniforms, but they could not see the South African army because the Tanzanians and Malawians were already absorbing all the bullets while SANDF was too far behind.

LDF said the don't know any SANDF

I could not find a single Seleka dead body in Bangui after the fight, all I saw was a white flag hanging on an SANDF R-4 rifle and the flag was made of a brand of white p.ant commonly sold at Woolworth boutique in Johannesburg
.
M23 claimed they killed 9 SA soldiers during the battle of kibati. Malawi was not fully on the ground that August.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:30pm On Apr 11, 2015
lezz:
the Anglo Saxons are the English who conquered the Boers who are early Dutch settlers also known as Afrikaans.
these people,anglo-Dutch owns and runs South Africa then and since.
Afrikaaners aren't from Dutch origin only.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 9:34pm On Apr 11, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Mortars are indirectly weapons you don't need too see the target, just have to know where it is.

People can stand behind that school and start throwing bombs.
And how would BH know where our ammo nest is?,they could fire from now till june,only for their mortars to end up all landing into konduga's craftily dug pit latrines.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by jl115: 9:39pm On Apr 11, 2015
MikeCZAR:
Afrikaaners aren't from Dutch origin only.
Don't bother @Lezz is to retaarded to understand your statement!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by MikeCZAR: 9:43pm On Apr 11, 2015
EVarn:
And how would BH know where our ammo nest is?,they could fire from now till june,only for their mortars to end up all landing into konduga's craftily dug pit latrines.
The fact that your enemy can fire and hit your ammo should be a worrying.

You don't have an ammo nest or bunker whatsoever you just pile them up and sleep next to them.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by EVarn(m): 10:06pm On Apr 11, 2015
MikeCZAR:
The fact that your enemy can fire and hit your ammo should be a worrying.
You don't have an ammo nest or bunker whatsoever you just pile them up and sleep next to them.
As i have said many times now,those crates of ammo were most probably in transit,if a lazy glutton like you can decipher that stacking ammo outdoors is dangerous,then our extremely intelligent and professional army officers already figured it out ages ago.
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by NaijaPikinGidi: 11:34pm On Apr 11, 2015
jl115:

[s]"Nigeria is not in a civil war, no matter how much you wish and pray!"

civil war
noun
a war between citizens of the same country.


Are Boko Haram not Nigerian citizens?

"kindly tell me which "one-day or sustained" war(s) you have fought in those "hottest places" you have mentioned?"
SWA and Angola for 23 Years!![/s]

You are struggling so hard to suppress your ignorance ... unfortunately it cannot be suppressed! Obviously!

SANDF obsolescence confirmed since over 23 years!!
Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:15am On Apr 12, 2015
MikeCZAR:


A F-7 pilot won't know that 80km away a Gripen is curving him up by changing direction approaching and attacking him from behind.


Radars have rear hemisphere scan/detection if you don't know !

Okay, it's not from side again, Gripen is now behind F-7 by flying spiritually like Harry Porter witchcraft?

Last time I said you Southies were talking about attacking from behind, @Patches said nobody was talking about attacking from behind.

Now 80 km away or 120 km away, it's your private imagination in your bedroom that the distance between Nigerian frontline FOB forward air base is 80 km to 120 km away from South African forward air base. Do you know what a forward air base is in war? It's not Pretoria or Abuja airport o ! It's outside airstrip in the war zone.

So what is NAF airstrip is in one city 50 km away from SAAF airstrip ? Both aircraft radar will see each other immediately they are airborne.

Your private theory of 80 km radar detection is defeated because it is just your personal wish and NOT reality of war.

Next, if we just assume for the sake of assumption that Gripen and F-7 are 120 km apart, the Gripen radar will scan the F-7, well the F-7 will not radar scan the Gripen at that range, but a normal and basic radar warning on F-7 will alert the F-7 pilot that the enemy is seeing him on radar screen.

If the Gripen wants to get beside or behind the F-7 from head on course, the Gripen needs to make a full 90 degree turn aside from course, then the F-7 pilot notices a faded radar warning and he is a trained combat pilot not a fool, he knows the Gripen has made an out-flanking maneuver, thus the F-7 pilot counter maneuvers by using the altitude advantage over the Gripen, flies above the Gripen level, also banks and turns in the opposite direction and both pilots will just miss each other finally !

If they encounter again next time, the F-7 will fly into the blind spot of the Gripen radar from a long range and use the BVR missile advantage to fire 35 km range PL-9C missile into the blind side wing of the Gripen jet and convert the Gripen from metal into ashes, scattered ashes of SAAF.....airborne cremation in action
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Re: Who Has The Strongest Military In Africa? by agaugust: 12:33am On Apr 12, 2015
Patchesagain:


I am not talking about full body armor.

I am talking about basic clothing. A tankers overalls - the standard dress of vehical crews since WW2.

Why dont your men have it?

No law says tank crew must wear coveralls at work in their bases.

That is American soldiers working on M1A1 Abrams tank with T-shirt and pants, NO COVERALLS UNIFORM !

http://www.2ndmardiv.marines.mil/News/NewsArticleDisplay/tabid/2643/Article/514713/marine-crews-repairs-tanks.aspx

Stop posting your private ideas as if it is international law....we are not fools here !

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