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homesteady:
This your explanation of power only exits in physics classes!
In normal terms, power means your physical strength, and I'm sure everyone here is using this same definition except you!

What do you understand when a commentator said Robben has pace and power? Same as Oshoala, Neymar and Ramires?

We are discussing football, not weight lifting.

[quote author=lekkie073 post=32802046][/quote]You are an Ekwe Sample.

Many writers and commentators have described Robben as playing with power.

He has power and skill, he works hard, he scores goals, he sets them up and in this World Cup he has been completely committed to the Oranje cause, a real team player.

His athleticism and power allows him to beat players with pace, but his technical ability gives him the capacity to make space through a drop of the shoulder or a flick of the ball. And his versatility means he is capable of playing on either the right or the left, or coming through the centre from wide areas to link up with Robin van Persie.


Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/fifa-world-cup-2014/world-cup-news-2014/arjen-robben-world-cup-magic-overshadowed-by-diving-reputation-20140708-zszh1.html#ixzz3XVmFkdUI



You guys still can't get it? Na wao! Power used here twice. It's his first attribute. This article was not written by me.

oh boy see lecture

what tactics do y'all think LvG will employ on Saturday to outsmart Mourinho?

elampiro:
What do you understand when a commentator said Robben has pace and power? Same as Oshoala, Neymar and Ramires?

We are discussing football, not weight lifting.

Yes we are discussing football not physics!
Does this your commentator know English more than my dictionary?

If Robben was a lady, I would have said Oshola is stronger than him by far! She plays with pace and she has a lot of strength, Oshola bullies defenders! Can Robben bully any defender!

I wonder why you are just making an argument out of this simple issue! Just stop using physics explanations!

This Elamps "power" argument is really annoying. How can Robben be more powerful than Valencia, Arguero, Wayama etc... This' fvcking ridiculous.

Pls, ignore his ignorance. Let's talk tactics.

At the same time, he has also been an ever-present member in the Netherlands team all these years, with his pace, power and directness a big component of their attacking repertoire.



I keep seeing more and more articles talking about his power. Same as CR7.


Na people like una go see Pacquiao una go say Akinfemwa go kill am. Power is not about physical built. Heavy muscles is not a reflection of what physical strength, force and energy that resides in a person. Chikena.

SetrakusRa:
This Elamps "power" argument is really annoying. How can Robben be more powerful than Valencia, Arguero, Wayama etc... This' fvcking ridiculous.

Pls, ignore his ignorance. Let's talk tactics.

You think otherwise because you dont know ball. You dont even understand power. As yourself, how can Pacquiao as small as Juan Mata be a world boxing champion?

Do you know how small Jackie is? Do you know what he can lift? Akinfenwa wont lift half what Rey Mysterio or Shawn Michael can lift. Forget forced muscle. Like Welbeck who was bulked up under one year.

elampiro:
Na people like una go see Pacquiao una go say
Akinfemwa go kill am. grin Power is not about
physical built. Heavy muscles is not a reflection
of what physical strength, force and energy that
resides in a person. Chikena.

Na wa for you oh! You've just been spamming this thread with this point! is anybody arguing with you about it?

Who doesn't know that size does not necessarily determine your power?

I keep seeing where they mention Robben, Ronaldo as some of the footballers with best power and pace.

The only place Wayanma gets mentioned is strongest footballers. Under the strongest footballer I saw Ibrhimovic, Lukaku and many kick boxing looking players.


May be you people are talking about strong men, like Booker T, Mark Henry. This is not weight lifting. ..... Power in football has to do with applying force and energy when you move. I dont see how Robben, Valencia and Ronaldo with speed of Olympic stars would not be said to be powerful. Haba!

elampiro:
You think otherwise because you dont know ball. You dont even understand power. As yourself, how can Pacquiao as small as Juan Mata be a world boxing champion?

Do you know how small Jackie is? Do you know what he can lift? Akinfenwa wont lift half what Rey Mysterio or Shawn Michael can lift. Forget forced muscle. Like Welbeck who was bulked up under one year.

Who's arguing with you that physical built determines power? You don't know football, you don't know your dictionary.

Arjen Robben is not a powerful player!! QED. If you like quote me with a textbook size epistle, it doesn't make any sense!

homesteady:
Na wa for you oh! You've just been spamming this thread with this point! is anybody arguing with you about it?

Who doesn't know that size does not necessarily determine your power?

Now you are talking. And I guess you know Robben, Valencia and Ronaldo can record the speed of an Olympic sprinter. That's the power we are talking about. Sprinting is done with some much power, so much energy and so much force. According to report, these guys do it on the field while ball watching while Sprinters do it on the track with sole purpose of setting a record time.


I rest my case.

SetrakusRa:
Who's arguing with you that physical built determines power? You don't know football, you don't know your dictionary.

Arjen Robben is not a powerful player!! QED. If you like quote me with a textbook size epistle, it doesn't make any sense!

You are entitled to your screwed up opinion.

The sports writers and match commentators and those of us who know ball, are aware of the truth. Robben is powerful. He applies his power to beat players with pace.

There's a fine line between PACE and POWER!!!!

elampiro:
I keep seeing where they mention Robben, Ronaldo as some of the footballers with best power and pace.

The only place Wayanma gets mentioned is strongest footballers. Under the strongest footballer I saw Ibrhimovic, Lukaku and many kick boxing looking players.


May be you people are talking about strong men, like Booker T, Mark Henry. This is not weight lifting. ..... Power in football has to do with applying force and energy when you move. I dont see how Robben, Valencia and Ronaldo with speed of Olympic stars would not be said to be powerful. Haba!

have you heard of Synonyms? check it up, then you'll see strong is a synonym for power!

elampiro:


You definitely dont know what it means to have power.

Power is not about muscle or physically built. Power has more to do with energy.

Report has it that Robben, Valcencia and Ronaldo have all recorded the speed of Olympic sprinters off the ball. Any one able to do that must be someone with power.

lol at my Padi

homesteady:
have you heard of Synonyms? check it up, then you'll see strong is a synonym for power!

Synonyms don't always mean same thing. You can have a strong wall built around your house, and you are referring to solid. You can't say you have a powerful wall.

Strong in reference to a footballer = Physically built.
Powerful in reference to a footballer = Energetically, forcefully in movement.

homesteady:

I ask you and you guys, why is Robben being referred to consistently as a player with pace and power? Same with fragile looking players like oshoala, Neymar. Ronaldo of course.

elampiro:
Synonyms don't always mean same thing. You can have a strong wall built around your house, and you are referring to solid. You can't say you have a powerful wall.

Strong in reference to a footballer = Physically built.
Powerful in reference to a footballer = Energetically, forcefully in movement.

Is Robben even forceful in movement?
is he as energetic as Sanchez?

PFA Player of the Year nominees: Costa, Coutinho, De Gea, Hazard, Kane, Sánchez

• Coutinho, De Gea, Hazard and Kane also on shortlist for PFA Young Player

Chelsea's Eden Hazard has been nominated for both the PFA Players’ Player of the Year and Young Player of the Year awards.
Thursday 16 April 2015 17.21

Diego Costa, Philippe Coutinho, David De Gea, Eden Hazard, Harry Kane and Alexis Sánchez are the six players nominated for this year’s Professional Footballers’ Association’s Players’ Player of the Year award.

Coutinho, De Gea, Hazard and Kane are also on the shortlist for the Young Player of the Year award, where they are joined by Thibaut Courtois and Raheem Sterling.

Hazard is the only nominee from last year to make the shortlist for the senior award, which was won by Luis Suárez, while the Chelsea forward won the youth award.

Eniola Aluko, Lucy Bronze, Karen Carney, Jess Clarke, Kelly Smith and Ji So-Yun are the nominees for the women’s award, while Freda Ayisi, Hannah Blundell, Aoife Mannion, Nikita Parris, Amy Turner and England Under 19s penalty hero Leah Williamson make the shortlist for the youth award.

The list was voted for by players from 100 clubs from the Premier League, Football League and Women’s Super League.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/apr/16/pfa-player-year-award-shortlist-costa-hazard-de-gea-kane-sanchez

elampiro:
homesteady:

I ask you and you guys, why is Robben being referred to consistently as a player with pace and power? Same with fragile looking players like oshoala, Neymar. Ronaldo of course.

check your dictionary for power!
So Neymar is also one of the most powerful footballers?

let me help you sef!

1) Physical strength and force exerted by
something or someone:
‘the power of the storm’
figurative ‘the lyrical power of his prose ’
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
SYNONYMS
strength , powerfulness , might , force ,
forcefulness , mightiness , weight, vigour,
energy , intensity , potency ;
brawn , brawniness, muscle

2) Capacity or performance of an engine or
other device :
‘a surge of power from the engine ’
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
SYNONYMS
driving force , horsepower, hp ,
acceleration

Footballers are not engines, so I'll stick to the 1st definition! If you and your commentator friend have a contrary opinion, go and meet Queen of England!
I rest my case!

homesteady:
check your dictionary for power!
So Neymar is also one of the most powerful footballers?

Imagine... By that logic, Di Maria, Bale, Jordi Alba are all powerful players...

SetrakusRa:
Imagine... By that logic, Di Maria, Bale, Jordi Alba are all powerful players...

Abi!

homesteady:
Is Robben even forceful in movement?
is he as energetic as Sanchez?

This is where it takes a professional to see things. Without Robben's force and energy he wont be different from Robinho or something like that. Robben is more energetic than Sanchez.

homesteady:
let me help you sef!




Footballers are not engines, so I'll stick to the 1st definition! If you and your commentator friend have a contrary opinion, go and meet Queen of England!
I rest my case!

You haven't said anything new.

You obviously know English more than the commentators and sports writers who say these guys apply power to out pace their markers.

SetrakusRa:
Imagine... By that logic, Di Maria, Bale, Jordi Alba are all powerful players...

Bale has power na. Jordi has power even if I dont watch him often.

elampiro:
This is where it takes a professional to see things. Without Robben's force and energy he wont be different from Robinho or something like that. Robben is more energetic than Sanchez.

UkWU!
that means Robben can even better Sanchez work rate? Nigga please!

elampiro:
You haven't said anything new.

You obviously know English more than the commentators and sports writers who say these guys apply power to out pace their markers.

Are you contradicting the dictionary meaning?

homesteady:
UkWU!
that means Robben can even better Sanchez work rate? Nigga please!

We saw them in the world cup. Robben, a striker, had the highest work rate at the world cup. He was the reason 3-5-2 worked. He was three players.

elampiro:
Bale has power na. Jordi has power even if I dont watch him often.

Stop misusing English!
Alba has stamina!
there are appropriate English words for each trait!

homesteady:
Are you contradicting the dictionary meaning?

Physical strength and force exerted by
something or someone:
‘the power of the storm’
figurative ‘the lyrical power of his prose ’
MORE EXAMPLE SENTENCES
SYNONYMS
strength , powerfulness , might , force ,
forcefulness , mightiness , weight, vigour,
energy , intensity , potency ;
brawn , brawniness, muscle

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The bolded are what I have been saying since. Apply these to game of football where movement is involved. If it were weight lifting, Shittu and Distin would have passed.

Vigor: effort, energy, and enthusiasm.












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