Eugenedimgba:
Well,the igbos have themselves to blame.Hausas know what they want and vigorously fights for it,the yorubas to an extent too.

Musiwa419:
i will stop the day the ibos stop marginalising the minority.

Btw, i am new here, how would i know that someone else uses this moniker?

MizMyColi:


I'm learning from those who have been in the system. I haven't really thought of this.

This topic is so justified.

You never know how far reaching this topic might become.

Bants:


I got my facts from wikipedia and after calculating it there was 13 hausa states 7 yoruba states and 9 ibo states total of 29....except for Abuja 6 i will assume are for other ethnic group

wisdomguy4u:


No tribe in Nigeria has fight and sweat blood for what they want like the igbos . Ask ur grandfather abt it , he will tell u better

ECOTERRORS:
The igbo man needs to wake up and become more politically active, we need to start being very active on social media, try to own media houses, be proactive in their votes, participate actively in census and electoral exercise, being igbocentric before a Nigerian.
The contraption called Nigeria was built to fail and to keep the Hausas in the mAjority.

During the last census exercise, I worked as a supervisor in Adamawa state, the pressure from govt officials to inflate the figures was so enormous that I had to throw in the towel for my own safety. The inhabitants of the place my enumerators covered wasn't up to 1000 but the figures were inflated to 8000.
I shook my head when I called my friends in the east and I was told that figures were not inflated because the northern supervisors posted there didn't allow for it.
There was an redeployment of supervisors to diffrent states of the federation

shenisaac:


Ok... Here is a link on thesame Wikipedia that shows otherwise. Here, I can count on both hands stars that are not core north
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geopolitical_zones_in_Nigeria

pazeinza:
HAUSA, YORUBA, IGBO, IJAW SHOULD STOP MARGINALISING THE SHUWA ARABS.

WE NEED POLITICAL EQUALITY IN NIGERIA. THE SHUW ARABS ARE ALSO NIGERIANS TOO

barcanista:
My concern is beyond election. What the system simply mean is that the talk of one Nigeria built on equality and justice is pure fable

pazeinza:
THE KAMBERI, JUNKUN, KANURI, SHUWA ARAB, EGBIRRA, EGGON, GBAGYI, BACCHAMA etc ARE ALSO NIGERIANS TOO.

WE NEED POLITICAL EQUALITY IN NIGERIA

barcanista:
The thing is that nobody is begging anybody to consider amendment, it is a growing demand that will either be met through round table or be resolved via referendum.

barcanista:
According to 2012 United States factsheet, Nigeria has 250 ethnic groups. The most populous and politically influential include: Hausa and Fulani 29%, Yoruba 21%, Igbo (Ibo) 18%, Ijaw 10%, Kanuri 4%, Ibibio 3.5%, Tiv 2.5%. https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ni.html
Looking at the Nigeria political structure especially that of the legislative arm (House of Representatives and Senate), I can't help but question the motive for the numerical advantage in favour of the combined North, and disadvantage in the side of the SS/SE. The whole South East was allocated just 43 Seats in the House of Representative despite that fact that the Igbo ethnic group that dominated the SE is one of the three largest ethnic groups in Nigeria. Whereas North West alone has 92 Seats and South West 71 Seats. Please read below and do comparison with multi-ethnic countries like Bosnia and Herzegovina and the Republic of Kosovo (below)

Nigeria
Federal House of Representative (360 Seats)
North-West: Kaduna (16), Kebbi [8], Zamfara (7) , Sokoto (11), Kano (24), Jigawa (11) and Katsina State (15).
Total: 92
North-East: Taraba (6), Borno (10), Bauchi (12), Adamawa [8], Gombe (6) and Yobe State (6).
Total: 48
North Central: Kogi (9), Niger (10), Benue (11), Kwara (6), Plateau [8], Nassarawa (5) + FCT -2
Total: 49 + 2 =51
South-West: Oyo (14), Ogun (9), Lagos (24), Ekiti(6), Ondo (9) and Osun State (9).
Total:71
South-Easts: Ebonyi (6) Enugu [8], Imo (10), Abia [8] and Anambra State (11).
Total: 43
South-South: Akwa-Ibom (10), Bayelsa (5), Edo (9), Cross River [8], Rivers (13) and Delta State (10).
Total: 55

NW + NE= 140 Seats
NW + NE + NC = 191 Seats
SW (alone) = 71 Seats
SS + SE= 98 Seats

Senate (109 Seats)

North West: 3x7 = 21 Seats, North East: 3x6 = 18 Seats, North Central + FCT: (3x6) + 1= 19 Seats
Total North= 58

South South: 3x6 = 18 and South East: 3x5 = 15
Total SE/SS = 33

South West: 3x6 = 18,

Comparing Nigeria's Situation With Bosnia and Kosovo

1. Bosnia and Herzegovina
Bosnia and Herzegovina is home to three ethnic "constituent peoples": Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Ethnically, according to data from 2000 cited by the Central Intelligence Agency, Bosniaks constitute 48% of the population, Serbs 37.1%, Croats 14.3%, and others form 0.6%.

House of People (Senate) With 15 Seats
Bosniaks: 5 Seats
Croats: 5 Seats
Serbs: 5 Seats

House of Representative With 42 Seats
Bosniaks: 14
Croats: 14
Serbs: 14
https://www.parlament.ba/default.aspx?langTag=en-US&pril=b
Despite having a whopping 48%, the Bosniaks for the sake of Political Justice and Equity agreed with the Serb (37%) and the Croats (17%) to share every seat in both parliament equally. This is equity and justice!

2. Republic of KOSOVO
Kosovo is an European state with Albanian majority. According to Records, Ethnic Albanians forms 88% of the population, Serbs 7%, other 5% (Bosniak, Gorani, Roma, Turk, Ashkali, Egyptian, Janjevci – Croats) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo#Demographics

Assembly of Kosovo
The Kosovo Assembly has 120 Members, to recognise the 12% minorities, the country reserved 20 Seats (ie 24%) for the Minorities while the rest 100 can be contested for by anybody. Of the 20 Specially reserved seats, 10 is for Serbs (despite having just 7% of the population), 4 seats for the representatives of the Romani, Ashkali and Egyptians. 3 seats for the Bosniaks, 2 seats for the Turks and 1 seat for the Gorans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_of_Kosovo

This is a country that the 88% Albanian Majority respect/recognize the right of the 12% ethnic Minorities that it specially reserved 20 Seats for the Minorities.

Equity Or Inequality?
Should we continue to deceive ourselves by holding the opinion that the Nigeria situation is "equity"? Won't it be justified to call for an overhaul of the system and institute a structure that could be deemed and justified in any sane clime if we are to move forward as a people in this arrangement called Nigeria? I believe that a call to address this lopsided "allocation" will be a patriotic one.

Source: http://solomontonye..com/2015/04/the-political-inequality-in-nigeria.html

barcanista:
Well, our hearts and voices should not be too short to negotiate with God.


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Williamso:

The problem with this model is that it will solve nothing.
I believe you're from the "East" (Dividing Nigeria by this model). So, let's say each region has 20 reps each. Wouldn't we still have the same argument as now when Ibos, due to their larger population, will deem it fit to have more reps than, say, the Ikwerres? And then, they'll start crying fowl and requesting for equal representation, thus continuing the cycle. There's a reason why there's a SENATE where all states have equal representation irrespective of their population.

And, you can't compare 3 zones to 2 (according to your OP) that's just ridiculous.

nerodenero:
So this translate to the north owning Nigeria . Check the meaning of 'own' in your dictionary if you have one and learn . Anyway, run along boy, in this trade, you are still a learner

Eugenedimgba:
well, u fight for what is reasonably achievable not the obviously impossible like a Biafra state.

Mynd44:

First of all what dafuq is the Lower Niger? What's states constitute this geographical zone?

Lets keep to SE/SS. This is what is recognized in Nigeria.

About population percentage, why not show me your figures? Why did you not put those figures beside the number of representatives?

You see Ekiti with 6 HOR members, Zamfara with 9 and you keep quiet right?
But you see Kano and Lagos and scream murder and some marginalization.

Does the population of River+Delta come close to that of Kano+Kaduna?

Start your argument there

kcpragmatik:
I'm an Igbo man, but to be honest the Igbo drew the margin themselves.. NAIRA.

barcanista:
People in the "East" should be left to solve their (our) internal challenges. That is a lesser challenger compared to this that is favoring no one across the Niger except the rich elite. Did u see equality in the Senate btw?

PapiWata:


Ha ha ha for some reason I am reminded of the old saying : "Your arms are too short to box with God".

barcanista:
Well, our hearts and voices should not be too short to negotiate with God.


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abduljabbar4:
Barcanista is really pained. I don't even know what to type again. Me APC brothers, let's stop resurrecting his old threads. His heart is being broken. As for those saying pdp will field a northerner, my question is why did Buhari lose in 3 consecutive times, earning him the name 'serial loser' with the same north?
Buhari lost in kogi, kwara, taraba, niger, benue plateau, abuja, nasarawa and Adamawa maybe these were southern states then. This election was 80% based on competency and not tribe. You know those that voted based on tribe. Thanks to the south west that didn't consider religion in this election. I couldn't believe Buhari could ever win in the south west looking at how they voted in 2011 and even left their own Bakare for Jonathan. Let's see what Buhari has for us. If he messes up, nobody needs to tell us what to do but there is one thing:
PDP WILL NEVER RULE NIGERIA AGAIN. We will vote KOWA
Modified
Why did you type Kano and Lagos in bold? You are more intelligent than this. So you don't know that they are the most populated states in Nigeria.
Barcanista politics is changing your mentality. I'm serious now

mandax:




People in south of Nigeria have been taken to be mugus. They have been holding like a Bible or Quaran a 36 states+Abuja political structure created by northern soldiers to make southerners become followers of what north dictates in Nigeria.

In the 36 states+Abuja political structure, 19 states and Abuja were proliferated in the one time one northern region, but in one time three southern regions, only17 states were created.

But land mass or population is never used in any federal country to create new federating units, except in Nigeria. New federating units are supposed to have emerged as equal multiples of the federating units that existed when new ones started to be created.

Soldiers in the US cannot just rise and divide large states like California or Texas into many more states to get more revenues to California or Texas areas as well as have more legislators for the areas in the US Congress.

Three Senators are derived flat from every Nigerian state, one from Abuja. Therefore in the National Assembly, old northern Nigeria is overwhelmingly over-represented in the National Assembly.
To amend the 1999 constitution also supervised by northern soldiers, all the 36 states Houses of Assembly must have an input. In other words, the 1999 constitution can only be amended when the amendment is pleasing northern political desires. But this is a country of northern and southern Nigeria when amalgamated by the British in 1999. The 36 states+Abuja political structure made south of Nigeria a semi-colony of the north and through which northerners can use their over-reprentation in all aspects of the polity to manipulate the south at will to get whatever north wants done on Nigeria's political terrain.

Obasanjo started reforms of the polity and political restructuring of this lopsided political structure through his National Political Reforms Conference, but third term ambition ended it.

No body could expect late Yar'Adua to embark on political reforms and restructuring.The political system and bad structure make his north take home most of the country's revenues and make final decisions on political development as well as who must be president of Nigeria.

GEJ is not believed to have a clear understanding of the fact that Nigeria's political system and structure were made by undemocratic means, therefore needed remaking by a democratic means. At last when it was too late, GEJ inaugurated a CONFAB for political reforms and restructuring. The CONFAB carried our political reforms and above all, restrured the polity such that if the restructuring is implemented, it shall diminish the inequality in political representation between the north and south of Nigeria.

One can still remember Jonathan last February begging people in Lagos to vote him so as to have the next National Assembly implement the resolution of the CONFAB, because according to GEJ, the outgoing NASS is hostile to the CONFAB.
The rest is history.

Mynd44:
This is not right.
I can see you are back to the old ways or whipping up tribal sentiments as was exposed yesterday. Now let me help you out.

What is the population of Kano?
What is the population of Lagos?
Now what is the population of the most populous state in the SE?

If a state has a population of say 10 million, how can you expect that state not to have more representatives than a state with a population of 3million?

IzonOwei:
you see claims like the north owns nigeria is the reason why I clamor for a seperation of the entity called nigeria...how can malams claim they own nigeria...meanwhile the non ownners actually feed the useless country...

chuka5000:









Which culture do u belong to and how do they pay u for this. Melu.

barcanista:
Your talk of tribal sentiment is flawed. Didn't you see the demography of every major ethnic groups in the Original post? By the way what do you mean whipping tribal sentiment when I never attacked nor accuse any tribe but I clearly faulted the system? The system is so unfavorable to me. is Kaduna more populated than Rivers State? Is Katsina more populated than Rivers State? Are the Igbos such a minority that the system make them appear? Can't you see from the two countries I used as a yardstick?

barcanista:
If there was a divine ordainment somewhere the framers of our constitution should let us know so that other ethnic groups can solicit for their own share of the ordainment