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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 8:14pm On May 04, 2015
somegirl1:



I don't see why we can't have Heaven right here and still make the biblical Heaven when we're gone. smiley
the biblical heaven is right here. nowhere in the bible does it say heaven is in the sky. the meek will inherit the earth. let it be done on earth as it is in heaven grin

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 8:20pm On May 04, 2015
quimicababes:


A good bit of them come to Trini illegally through South America.Land through Brazil..route to Venezuela and take a boat to Trini.From there they move up to the other islands.Gotta give it to Naija folks and there will to survive lol grin

Lol. These muthaphuckas are the real black pikeys. grin

Never knew a lot of them are in the Caribbean since the place is no different from Africa economically apart from the beautiful beaches.

But hey, at least they'll get to meet beautiful carib chics. grin
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 8:22pm On May 04, 2015
DollyParton1:


Chain is for dogs. angry angry
A picture perfect view is of my beautifully endowed self is on my profile. Check it out. tongue tongue tongue

Lol. Okay, wear my beads then.

I can't see anything in that pic - the old one with the denim top and maxi dress showed what you're endowed with better than that one.

Erm, send it offline - wanna see it. tongue
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 8:25pm On May 04, 2015
sukkot:
yorubas were never captured as slaves in large numbers. you igbo cowards were the ones who were mostly captured. thats why most slaves were igbos. do you see any hausa slaves ? only the weak tribes were enslaved. this why all the slaves in virginia were igbo. you are coawrds. however if bravery is by shouting then you igbos are the bravest lol. your bravery is only in your head. but everywhere else everyone looks at you as cowards wink

Ha. Yorubas out number the amount of slaves from bright of biafra and other tribes labeled bright of benin too. You people were the easiest to capture. Seriously, pick up a book. Read, READ

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 8:27pm On May 04, 2015
OneNaira6:


Ha. Yorubas out number the amount of slaves from bright of biafra and other tribes labeled bright of benin too. You people were the easiest to capture. Seriously, pick up a book. Read, READ
you guys say igbo slaves were more in USA. now its yoruba who were more ? make up your mind shocked undecided

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by DollyParton1(f): 8:28pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. Okay, wear my beads then.

I can't see anything in that pic - the old one with the denim top and maxi dress showed what you're endowed with better than that one.

Erm, send it offline - wanna see it. tongue

Welll... beads are for royals, according to Yoruba culture, I wear those already.


You said, send it offline, just like that? Dang!!! That voodoo man must have bragged about the potency of the voodoo. Sorry it dint work. Return it and take back your money.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 8:29pm On May 04, 2015
sukkot:
you guys say igbo slaves were more in USA. now its yoruba who were more ? make up your mind shocked undecided

Maybe you should read my posts again and this time carefully. I've always maintained yorubas outnumber the igbo slaves because that was what was taught during my studies.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 8:31pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. These muthaphuckas are the real black pikeys. grin

Never knew a lot of them are in the Caribbean since the place is no different from Africa economically apart from the beautiful beaches.

But hey, at least they'll get to meet beautiful carib chics. grin

Lol I wouldn't know...perhaps you can ask them lol.Perhaps they prefer love up them beautiful carib chics grin tongue
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 8:33pm On May 04, 2015
OneNaira6:


Maybe you should read my posts again and this time carefully. I've always maintained yorubas outnumber the igbo slaves because that was what was taught during my studies.
You guys need to make up your minds. first it was igbo slaves outnumber every slaves. then when i brought out how that was a sign of weakness, now you switch it to yoruba slaves outnumber everyone else lmaoooo. ok biafra loser shocked grin

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 8:35pm On May 04, 2015
DollyParton1:

Welll... beads are for royals, according to Yoruba culture, I wear those already.

You said, send it offline, just like that? Dang!!! That voodoo man must have bragged about the potency of the voodoo. Sorry it dint work. Return it and take back your money.

Lol. That was why I told you wear my beads as the Duke of Ijebuland. tongue

I don't do voodoo - I put the satin in ya panties, so I think I earned it. Don't you think? tongue
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 8:37pm On May 04, 2015
quimicababes:


Lol I wouldn't know...perhaps you can ask them lol.Perhaps they prefer love up them beautiful carib chics grin tongue

Lol. I don't know any Nigerian living in the Caribbean - but I've met loads of Trini chics. And I went to Uni with a few international students from Bahamas on some American scholarship - so I know what ya chics look like out there. grin

Wanna tell me the secret?
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 8:46pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. These muthaphuckas are the real black pikeys. grin

Never knew a lot of them are in the Caribbean since the place is no different from Africa economically apart from the beautiful beaches.

But hey, at least they'll get to meet beautiful carib chics. grin

I still think it is economics tho.Security work here pays at least 125k Naira a month...so if they can save from it towards home it is better than taking Naija 18k minimum wage.It's like Trinis who prefer do minimum wage jobs in the USA ,Canada and UK cuz the money is higher than our currency that many times they can do a lot back home.

Trini doesn't have a shortage of jobs btw...there are many minimum wage jobs Trinis don't want to do it that the Private sector is begging the government to open up immigration more so Caribbean folks can fill the vacancies. Construction has a shortage of labour too.Likewise for the good paying jobs we have a shortage of labour especially in the medical field.So a naija doctor is scooped up once they meet the criteria.Not only naija folks come trini to work.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by DollyParton1(f): 8:49pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. That was why I told you wear my beads as the Duke of Ijebuland. tongue

I don't do voodoo - I put the satin in ya panties, so I think I earned it. Don't you think? tongue
I wear my Osun & Egba beads. I don't need additional load from the self acclaimed Ijebu Duke. tongue tongue tongue
And the satin in my panties came with it from the factory. So, no thank you
tongue tongue tongue
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 8:51pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. I don't know any Nigerian living in the Caribbean - but I've met loads of Trini chics. And I went to Uni with a few international students from Bahamas on some American scholarship - so I know what ya chics look like out there. grin

Wanna tell me the secret?

Lmaooooo...u is kicks yes.I nah know the secret...ask them Carib chics in London tongue.They will be able to give you first hand account...can't beat first hand sources cool.Bahamian folks are kool...lil too religious but nice smiley
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by OneNaira6: 8:56pm On May 04, 2015
sukkot:
You guys need to make up your minds. first it was igbo slaves outnumber every slaves. then when i brought out how that was a sign of weakness, now you switch it to yoruba slaves outnumber everyone else lmaoooo. ok biafra loser shocked grin

Yorubas have ALWAYS been the highest recorded slaves in America, both south and north. That's been well taught hence I disagreed with Francis when he said otherwise.
You were never the least traded slave tribes..the hausa were
You were never the slave traders...the fulanis, ashanti, etc were
You were never the rebellious group..the akan, igbo, mandigo, wolof, Angola tribes were

Yoruba were nothing. The only thing you were known for is having a high number of slaves and your religion surviving due to the fact you people were the last slaves to arrive to South America and other tribes, including your people that was already there, readopted your religion. That's the only thing you were known for, nothing more, nothing less

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 8:56pm On May 04, 2015
DollyParton1:

I wear my Osun & Egba beads. I don't need additional load from the self acclaimed Ijebu Duke. tongue tongue tongue
And the satin in my panties came with it from the factory. So, no thank you
tongue tongue tongue

Lol. Osun and Egba never had Kingdom - Ijebu beads are more legit. I'm Ijebu royalty, you better believe that - not a joke. Don't be surprised if I were to develop interest in the Kingship in future, and go to naij to claim the throne of my ancestors. grin

Nah, I put the unique satin in ya panties there, with my name engraved on it. tongue
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 8:57pm On May 04, 2015
OneNaira6:


[s]Yorubas have ALWAYS been the highest recorded slaves in America, both south and north. That's been well taught hence I disagreed with Francis when he said otherwise.
You were never the least traded slave tribes..the hausa were
You were never the slave traders...the fulanis, ashanti, etc were
You were never the rebellious group..the akan, igbo, mandigo, wolof, Angola tribes were

Yoruba were nothing. The only thing you were known for is having a high number of slaves and your religion surviving due to the fact you people were the last slaves to arrive to South America and other tribes, including your people that was already there, readopted your religion. That's the only thing you were known for, nothing more, nothing less[/s]
this biafran slave, stop typing lies shocked grin

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 8:57pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. Osun and Egba never had Kingdom - Ijebu beads are more legit. I'm Ijebu royalty, you better believe that - not a joke. Don't be surprised if I were to develop interest in the Kingship in future, and go to naij to claim the throne of my ancestors. grin

Nah, I put the unique satin in ya panties there, with my name engraved on it. tongue
grin grin grin
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 9:00pm On May 04, 2015
quimicababes:


Lmaooooo...u is kicks yes.I nah know the secret...ask them Carib chics in London tongue.They will be able to give you first hand account...can't beat first hand sources cool.Bahamian folks are kool...lil too religious but nice smiley

Lol. Dem gyaldem out here are crazy and strong-headed but I gatt love fi dem cah dem afi ride or die with yuh, ya get me? grin And they put it down. Once they're on it, they are supremely loyal as fvck.

Yes, I noticed Bahamian are super-religious but darn they have got crazy bodies though, and they're good looking. Their patois is also different. I should still have them on my facebook if I reactivated my account. Too bad a lot of them don't live in the UK.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 9:01pm On May 04, 2015
sukkot:
grin grin grin

Lol. Big bredrin.

I gatt that blue royal blood. Dem paigons/pagans don't know what time it's. grin
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by DollyParton1(f): 9:02pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. Osun and Egba never had Kingdom - Ijebu beads are more legit. I'm Ijebu royalty, you better believe that - not a joke. Don't be surprised if I were to develop interest in the Kingship in future, and go to naij to claim the throne of my ancestors. grin

[s]Nah, I put the unique satin in ya panties there, with my name engraved on it. tongue[/s]

Errrmmm my parents made the kingdom happen. tongue grin
About the text in bold, keep dreaming, the language is enough to disqualify you.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by SirShymexx: 9:11pm On May 04, 2015
DollyParton1:


Errrmmm my parents made the kingdom happen. tongue grin
About the text in bold, keep dreaming, the language is enough to disqualify you.

Lol. Language can be learned easily, as long as you know the basics. tongue

Nah, you belong to my kingdom and I put the satin in ya panties.

Send it offline, man. tongue
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 9:22pm On May 04, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. Dem gyaldem out here are crazy and strong-headed but I gatt love fi dem cah dem afi ride or die with yuh, ya get me? grin And they put it down. Once they're on it, they are supremely loyal as fvck.

Yes, I noticed Bahamian are super-religious but darn they have got crazy bodies though, and they're good looking. Their patois is also different. I should still have them on my facebook if I reactivated my account. Too bad a lot of them don't live in the UK.

Nah u be the Ijebu Duke? undecided You should capture one easily so you can test out what is the secret. grin grin grin Yuh gat tuh be persistent..tht how Carib men be and compliments....just don't lie lmaoooooooo.Gotta know how to talk especially for Trini chics as our men are the King of giving talk...I no lie. wink

Our men be fooling foreign women they are the best thing after slice bread but only we know they be lying...hence tthe strong headedness..gotta know how to slice them up and sift out d good ones. lmaoooooo.Also nah be too macho as Carib men plenty times have no problem cooking,cleaning etc tongue

All of us got different patois which we term creole though.The patois is more termed for the french speaking one.I like hear Bajan speak but boi I does have to try to understand them.When Jamaican speak fast I nah understand nuttin. Tobagonian creole sounds like Jamaican creole.The Bahamian creole is normal like Trini though they say we speak as if we be singing...dunno. cool
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Ihuomadinihu: 10:18pm On May 04, 2015
OneNaira6:


Yorubas have ALWAYS been the highest recorded slaves in America, both south and north. That's been well taught hence I disagreed with Francis when he said otherwise.
You were never the least traded slave tribes..the hausa were
You were never the slave traders...the fulanis, ashanti, etc were
You were never the rebellious group..the akan, igbo, mandigo, wolof, Angola tribes were

Yoruba were nothing. The only thing you were known for is having a high number of slaves and your religion surviving due to the fact you people were the last slaves to arrive to South America and other tribes, including your people that was already there, readopted your religion. That's the only thing you were known for, nothing more, nothing less
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by sukkot: 2:16am On May 05, 2015
SirShymexx:


Lol. Big bredrin.

I gatt that blue royal blood. Dem paigons/pagans don't know what time it's. grin
hahaha the prince charles of ijebu igbo grin grin grin grin
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 2:43am On May 05, 2015
ShymmexLion:


Erm, I had to come back with my Carib rasta handle - my other handle is on hiatus in this section for now. grin

Lol. I've checked all kinds of Carib women - but mostly Jamaicans, a couple from Guyana and Bahamas (Uni), some French one from Martinique (Uni as well),and one Trini. And I checked the Dominca one down the road from me for a few months, but we're still cool though. So, I know how they get down. grin

Lmao @ Creole - mandem don't call it creole - we call it patois. Just different flavours. Errthang ah gwan inna ah inna ah, dun noe. grin

Like you got a thing for Carib women huh? undecidedNah only one Trini boi you ah test out? How you gonna refuse the Caribbean "bestest" (btw I know dts not a word lol) grin grin grin grin.More grease to ur elbows towards my Trini sisters lmaooooooooo.Probably a case of the best for last tongue

We do call it creole hun....Trini creole,Bajan creole etc..no mind it supposed to be interchangeable...especially in academics folks refer to it as such.Patois is used it in the context of it being based on french...basically french creole.Like we Trini...only a few folks speak patois but all of us speak Trini creole.

Probably we take the term patois a little too seriously as old times folks actually spoke a creole language that is based on french unlike our creole now which is was surplanted by British English.I know Jamaicans refer to their language as "Jamaican Patois" which you can see where Trini folks disagreeing on that but then again I don't know Jamaica Patois to be heavily influenced by French like ours.So we can't refer to both of these different type of creole languages in Trini as patois.I can't speak one word of patois and mind you there are Trinis who speak patois.Ketch my drift.

Creole is used in the context it is a fusion of different languages...for Trini creole it have Bhojpuri words,French ,Spanish,English and African words.

Shymexxlion yes...I nah rep rasta tho I do like reggae music.I be reppin for soca cool,Hahahah ur name reminds me of Snoop lion..so glad he drop it tho.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by Nobody: 2:48am On May 05, 2015
Other islanders like St.Lucians,Martinque and Guadeloupe folks will use the term patois because they actually speak patois.I met quite a bit of them.But other countries have lost patois due to it being surplanted by British English.
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by ezeagu(m): 10:23am On May 05, 2015
quimicababes:


I have no problem with Obeah being derived from Igbo language just don't want it to be interpreted as Caribbean folks using it in terms of Igbo divination systems as I am aware they have their own religious system.

I suppose the High Commission market it more because people show more interest in it....there is a market basically.I do not think Igbo people I have met personally market their culture.Like my best friend ex-husband for years is an Igbo man from Onitsha, Anambra but in all the time I have known him...he barely spoke about his culture.Another one I met at university who is from Delta state he barely spoke about his culture even when interest was shown as I am the type of person who ask people about their culture even if they are from the Caribbean self.Same cannot be said for the Yorubas I have met who were generally eager to share their culture.

It is weird as I have met more Igbo Nigerians than Yoruba Nigerians and they are married to Trinidadian women so I don't understand why the culture is not promoted.The Nigerian High Commission really tries with promoting Yoruba culture.Presently Yoruba language is the only African language that is taught at the University of the West Indies which is where the Language Institute is under and I heard from the teacher they want to introduce it up to the diploma level.

Historically with regards to Trinidadians we have a stronger pull towards Yoruba culture as it is quite normal to meet an Adeola,Olatunji etc as there are many Orisha devotees so I get why the High Commission promotes it but at the same time there are a few half-igbo babies in Trinidad so I think they can work on it.

Yoruba culture marketability is also helped by private organisations as the Yoruba teacher reached out to Black conscious groups which gives further exposure.If Igbo can work on that I think eventually we will learn more about the culture.

Igbo people are more private. It's like Haitians said in that poem, the Igbo govern themselves. There are dozens of Igbo cultural groups and summits around the world, on Youtube you can find associations for China, Japan, Malaysia, Netherland, Finland and so on, so I wouldn't say they drop their culture. The other cultures you mentioned come from more imperial settings where they are used to enculturating other people. Igbo people are basically individualists with a strong sense of family, outside of that they can be quite weary, so unless you really want to integrate into the culture or you visit Igbo land there's lesser chance that you will know much about Igbo culture apart from business mindedness. Yoruba culture has also received more academic attention because the west is more acquainted with their culture and hierarchical form of government, while Igbo culture was seen as more diverse and republican. A popular saying is the Igbo have no ruler.

What I would say is despite the promotion of certain cultures in the Caribbean, it seems that some Igbo influence still exists strongly embedded into the culture of English and French speaking Caribbeans, not through importation, the biggest evidence being influence on creole languages. If there were to be some outreach between Igbo culture and the Caribbean, the depth of this may be more revealed. It's only recently things started being attributed to Igbo culture anyway when they were initially pegged to more studied or more marketed cultures.

Anyway, in the mean time Yoruba seems to be sufficing for the people who care enough to learn African languages.

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Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by jantavanta(m): 11:16pm On May 06, 2015
This thread has been derailed. Let us get back to discussing ideograms.

Ogam, an ancient European script, originated from Nsibidi Ideograms


OGAM STONE INSCRIPTIONS AND IGBO COLUMN-WRITING -- A COMPARISON

By Catherine Obianuju Acholonu

Ogam was written in the form of strokes or lines, originally on sticks and later on rock. From Edo Nyland we gather that Celtic traditions of Ireland say that Ogam means Oga-ama. Oga-ama is most likely related to Igbo equivalent Ima Ogu already described above as the custom of using sticks to communicate, for in both traditions Ogu means ‘stick’. In Igbo tradition another similar word, Ogu-ama, has a range of meanings connected with the act of using sticks for oath swearing.

Ogam inscription of WeSt Virginia
[img]http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/igbo/ogam2_files/image006.gif[/img]

Cretan Linear A writing
[img]http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/igbo/ogam2_files/image010.gif[/img]

http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/igbo/ogam2.htm
Re: Igbo Ideograms On Grave Stones In Virginia, US by benzylas(m): 3:08pm On May 07, 2015
Proudly igbo

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