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kay1one2:
But only one is rational. That handed over to man by God. The writer of Ecclesiastes says one shouldn't be to wise in their eyes (paraphrase). E.g like baby no 1 the logical thoughts only.

Handed over to man by God? Are u even listening to urself? When? When? How? To which man?

funny story

If there were 200 talking babies with different theories it might start to be relatable.

frank317:
Handed over to man by God? Are u even listening to urself? When? When? How? To which man?

The Bible details that.

kay1one2:
God's plans for us are good. That's why He gave us free will. Like any parent, no matter the amount of Love lavished on a child, the child's decision still has a lot to do with where he ends up. Like I said, God TAKES no pleasure in the death of the unrighteous.

Ezekiel 33:11 NIV

Say to them, ‘As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord , I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that they turn from their ways and live. Turn! Turn from your evil ways! Why will you die, people of Israel?’

Stop quoting the bible like a zombie and use ur brain for once... No one is giving you trophy here if u quote the who Jewish book.

You said God's initial plan fail... I will like you to repeat this over and over again, perhaps it will start making sense to u.

While you are at that ask yourself what made this almigthy's plan to fail. Remember there is no other God but him. That means it is his creation that caused the almigthy's plan to fail... How silly. If there where another God ur would have been serving them.

kay1one2:
The Bible details that.

So does the koran

frank317:
Stop quoting the bible like a zombie and use ur brain for once... No one is giving you trophy here if u quote the who Jewish book.

You said God's initial plan fail... I will like you to repeat this over and over again, perhaps it will start making sense to u.

While you are at that ask yourself what made this almigthy's plan to fail. Remember there is no other God but him. That means it is his creation that caused the almigthy's plan to fail... How silly. If there where another God ur would have been serving them.

Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said God's plan failed. Another plan was put in place when the first would have involved going against free will which He can easily do.

frank317:
So does the koran

You can as well decide to become a suicide bomber!

kay1one2:
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said God's plan failed. Another plan was put in place when the first would have involved going against free will which He can easily do.

really I'd expect an omniscient being to have known the first plan wouldn't work billions of years before planning it... how come he put up another plan, hoping this second plan works... That sounds like trials and errors.

kay1one2:
That was the original plan for humanity right from eden until man fell. Satan beefed. That's why God's salvation plan is termed "Redemption"!

what do you call an original plan that didn't work out in the first place?

its simply [size=20]failure[/size]

still wondering how the original plan of a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient being didn't work out in the first place!!!!

kay1one2:
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said God's plan failed. Another plan was put in place when the first would have involved going against free will which He can easily do.

Lol..another plan? What happened to the first one? Was it so successful that your God went for plan B?

frank317:
Lol..another plan? What happened to the first one? Was it so successful that your God went for plan B?

The plan we are in now has always been the original plan. The order of presentation is meant to be an evidence of the depth of His efforts at raising a family of humanity.

johnydon22:
really I'd expect an omniscient being to have known the first plan wouldn't work billions of years before planning it... how come he put up another plan, hoping this second plan works... That sounds like trials and errors.



what do you call an original plan that didn't work out in the first place?

its simply [size=20]failure[/size]

still wondering how the original plan of a supposedly omnipotent and omniscient being didn't work out in the first place!!!!

Or putting your wishes into consideration.

kay1one2:
The plan we are in now has always been the original plan. The order of presentation is meant to be an evidence of the depth of His efforts at raising a family of humanity.

lmao... this is the same dude that said the first plan didn't work out..
here

kay1one2:
Please don't put words in my mouth. I never said God's plan failed. Another plan was put in place when the first would have involved going against free will which He can easily do.

and here

kay1one2:
That was the original plan for humanity right from eden until man fell. Satan beefed. That's why God's salvation plan is termed "Redemption"!

Now he is changing his stance and say the original plan is still on... chai..
Dude you don't even grasp what it is you believe.. see total confusion and contradictions..

johnydon22:
lmao... this is the same dude that said the first plan didn't work out..
here

and here



Now he is changing his stance and say the original plan is still on... chai..
Dude you don't even grasp what it is you believe.. see total confusion and contradictions..

A message has been passed across. Maybe if you come off your high horse you might grasp it.

kay1one2:
The plan we are in now has always been the original plan. The order of presentation is meant to be an evidence of the depth of His efforts at raising a family of humanity.

Ok... The plan was that Lucifer should challenge his maker? Man's fall which has caused anger and regret in ur God was the initial plan? He planned right from the begining that he would kill his son? The creation of hell for Satan and for disobedient man was all his initial plan?


Keep making ur God theory sound dumber

kay1one2:
A message has been passed across. Maybe if you come off your high horse you might grasp it.

hahahahahahahahaha well you need to first grasp what your message says before passing it across... Just read again and see how these guys got you going in a circling web of contradictions... i think i get the message now.... thanks..

frank317:
Ok... The plan was that Lucifer should challenge his maker? Man's fall which has caused anger and regret in ur God was the initial plan? He planned right from thebbegibibg

The plan for man and God to live in eden, scuttled temporarily by satan, restored in Christ.

kay1one2:
The plan for man and God to live in eden, scuttled temporarily by satan, restored in Christ.

so satan, another feeble creature of this ur god was powerful enough to scuttle the plan of an all powerful god?

i think the definition of omnipotent changed

johnydon22:
so satan, another feeble creature of this ur god was powerful enough to scuttle the plan of an all powerful god?

i think the definition of omnipotent changed

You actually scuttled it. Satan got kicked out of heaven and by listening to him and eating the fruit, you became a captive in need of a Savior; Christ. Classic case of kidnapping!

kay1one2:
You actually scuttled it. Satan got kicked out of heaven and by listening to him and eating the fruit, you became a captive in need of a Savior; Christ. Classic case of kidnapping!

Really? first he said it was satan, now its me.. could they ever be a more bigger confused individual than this dude?

No wonder i was powerful enough to disrupt the plan of this your god. wow omnipotence is killed...

Lmao... I love the sound of mythologies... tell me more

johnydon22:
Really? first he said it was satan, now its me.. could they ever be a more bigger confused individual than this dude?

No wonder i was powerful enough to disrupt the plan of this your god. wow omnipotence is killed...

Lmao... I love the sound of mythologies... tell me more

Well until you repent, there's very little difference between you and satan.

kay1one2:
Well until you repent, there's very little difference between you and satan.

Aaaaah thats great, and i guess as the holy righteous believer, their is little difference between u and ur god huh? no wonder you look forward to people burning forever, you are really learning well from ur god..

Well that'd be if you can prove the existence of that ur satan toour satan still only exists in ur head... Running out trashes to talk already?

johnydon22:
Aaaaah thats great, and i guess as the holy righteous believer, their is little difference between u and ur god huh? no wonder you look forward to people burning forever, you are really learning well from ur god..

Well that'd be if you can prove the existence of that ur satan toour satan still only exists in ur head... Running out trashes to talk already?

You can as well carry your doubting Thomas as far as not even believing you exist. Keep belittling your world. Being useful is probably not a priority for you now.

kay1one2:
You can as well carry your doubting Thomas as far as not even believing you exist. Keep belittling your world. Being useful is probably not a priority for you now.

hahahahahahahaha really? oooh am not a doubting thomas, i just know the difference between myth, wishful thinking, fable and a perceived reality.

You have not heard about the God zeus, he came down to earth and impregnated an earthly woman who bore him the child hercules (just like Jesus only that it predates the jesus fable)

then hercules became a very might man, strong and tall.. killed a nemian lion with his bare hands, can push down temples and many inhuman fits he accomplished (just like samson only that it predates samson)... How come you don't believe this story too even tho its so similar and even predates the precious ones you hold dear

Johnny, this guy is childishly confused. It would do you good to ignore him. He has nothing to say.

frank317:
Johnny, this guy is childishly confused. It would do you good to ignore him. He has nothing to say.

lol... its obvious frank, but sometimes its good to drill them a bit..

kay1one2:
"IF"

Don't you think it does everyday? The mother only shows up at the right time! In the interim, any communication is by signs; faith!

Can the mother hear the fetus asking for her?

Can your god hear me asking for him?

This analogy does not apply. No mother ever hears her fetus' voice. Does god hear my voice?

So try harder.

ooman:
Can the mother hear the fetus asking for her?

Can your god hear me asking for him?

This analogy does not apply. No mother ever hears her fetus' voice. Does god hear my voice?

So try harder.

This is definitely the first twin talking!