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cococandy:
How did I even malign you?
Ok I'm sorry

your comment on age of biden being the reason hilary is better..
apology accepted

no issues... already u hassle me again... is there anything wrong in asking for translation

ok o...

pickabeau1:
your comment on age of biden being the reason hilary is better..
apology accepted

no issues... already u hassle me again... is there anything wrong in asking for translation

ok o...

it means "shebi una don see why I like xynerise"

I Hope you understand pidgin sha. Because I no fit speak English pass that one again.

cococandy:
it means "shebi una don see why I like xynerise"

I Hope you understand pidgin sha. Because I no fit speak English pass that one again.

I get.. his insight was ok
i still dont know what the point of the thread was anyway

telling us that males contribute to infertility is not world changing
Maaybe the magnitude of male contribution at which point research methodology and sampling techniques come in.

pickabeau1:
I get.. his insight was ok
i still dont know what the point of the thread was anyway

telling us that males contribute to infertility is not world changing
Maaybe the magnitude of male contribution at which point research methodology and sampling techniques come in.

the point of the thread is/are
1) ladies need to lady up and demand fertility tests from their prospective husbands just as they demand from them.

2) TTC couples need to understand that the man is as much a culprit as the wife so the pressure needs to be reduced on the wife.

3)general education of the public. Just that many of them may not read it or be on NL. But this information needs to be out there like polio vaccination. The ignorance is high.
We always hear about barren women but hung like that for the impotent men. Even when the wife is fertile and the man is sterile, she's termed a barren woman. The local person out there needs to know that anyone could be responsible for childlessness in a marriage

Should I continue?

crackhaus:
I agree totally.

They should tell their husbands and brothers, as well as themselves... especially the text in bold.

Someone was trying to make a public announcement Na

cococandy:
the point of the thread is/are
1) ladies need to lady up and demand fertility tests from their prospective husbands just as they demand from them.

2) TTC couples need to understand that the man is as much a culprit as the wife so the pressure needs to be reduced on the wife.

3)general education of the public. Just that many of them may not read it or be on NL. But this information needs to be out there like polio vaccination. The ignorance is high.
We always hear about barren women but hung like that for the impotent men. Even when the wife is fertile and the man is sterile, she's termed a barren woman. The local person out there needs to know that anyone could be responsible for childlessness in a marriage

Should I continue?

Fertility tests....how many people actually ask women for this..i know of hiv tests...
I guess if a woman is subjected to such..a man should be ready too
It may be his fault

2. This is obvious

3. You guys can form an NGO

Nigeria is messed up. The generator fumes, dust everywhere, poor diet, lack of goodhealth care etc.

Most times outdoors or in the market I find myself gasping for air. All these have effects on overall health of people.

People should try as much as possible to go for check up once a while and eat food meals. Esp vegetable and fruits . It's cleanses a lot and boost your immune system.

Most Nigerian men don't like going for check up. Always petronizing "chemist".

Pls people should take their health seriously.

babyosisi:
You are still arguing
My brother it was published in the journal of obstetrics and gynecology
Research gate doesn't publish articles ,it is a sort of network that features research articles published by journals

Talking about impact factor of 0.6,it is now clear you have never published a paper
I have published a few
You have no clue
Any person doing a clinical research in O and G anywhere in the world will give an arm and a leg to publish an article there

Kudos to the Nigerian authors for actually getting published in PubMed. Wow I'm impressed.

babyosisi:
This is for all you males that insist that you need to check out and make sure your wives can conceive
Facts are sacred
Dinachi ,timbuktou,harveyspec cococandy,keppyy,jahblessme,bukatyne,apextitan,njokusboy,kilode100,4teelaw

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Why is my name not here?

Stillfire:
Kudos to the Nigerian authors for actually getting published in PubMed. Wow I'm impressed.

No, you are naive.
There are more than 500 entries in pubmed from. Nigerian authors. We are the ones underestimating ourselves.

bellong:
Does your husband believe it is his God-given right to be polyamorous?
Does he go for check up?

If the answers to the questions are no and yes, I guess your assertion is flawed.

Yes, some men tow the path of your opinion but majority do not. The majority cannot be judged on the opinion of the few.

If I have time after church, I will dig up a study done in the Southwest before 2003 which contradicts the conclusion of the research posted here. The study opined that women are more and at higher risk of infertility than men. Like my position on this, I faulted their methodology.

If the SW study concluded on female infertility with few sample space, SE study concluded on male infertility with few sample space, can you understand what I am driving at?

Samples should be collected across the geopolitical zone to understand different geographical causes of infertility in arriving at a conclusion. The men of South East may be at higher risk of infertility compared to men in the North, Southwest and vice- versa. The females in the North may be at higher risk of infertility compared to other zones due to geographical and environmental reasons. Until data are taken across board, I am sorry that the authors cannot lay authoritative claim to their conclusion.

And I maintain, for this type of study, the space used is not enough.

I must comment you on your good journal critiquing skills. Well done.

bellong:
Does your husband believe it is his God-given right to be polyamorous?
Does he go for check up?

If the answers to the questions are no and yes, I guess your assertion is flawed.

Yes, some men tow the path of your opinion but majority do not. The majority cannot be judged on the opinion of the few.

If I have time after church, I will dig up a study done in the Southwest before 2003 which contradicts the conclusion of the research posted here. The study opined that women are more and at higher risk of infertility than men. Like my position on this, I faulted their methodology.

If the SW study concluded on female infertility with few sample space, SE study concluded on male infertility with few sample space, can you understand what I am driving at?

Samples should be collected across the geopolitical zone to understand different geographical causes of infertility in arriving at a conclusion. The men of South East may be at higher risk of infertility compared to men in the North, Southwest and vice- versa. The females in the North may be at higher risk of infertility compared to other zones due to geographical and environmental reasons. Until data are taken across board, I am sorry that the authors cannot lay authoritative claim to their conclusion.

And I maintain, for this type of study, the space used is not enough.

I must commend you on your good journal critiquing skills. Well done.

5minsmadness:
No, you are naive.
There are more than 500 entries in pubmed from. Nigerian authors. We are the ones underestimating ourselves.

Kudos to these Nigerians in Nigeria who against all odds are doing their best. I'm impressed.

Still going though the thread.
However.

I have been privileged to work in many fertility counselling clinics all over southern nigeria and Kwara.

For the majority of men it is almost an act of War asking them to come for fertility tests. The usual scenario is that the woman comes first and then we insist the tests won't continue until she is accompanied by her husband. Same with HIV screening tests and counselling.

Reason might be traditional i.e men feeling they have nothing wrong with them and that the issue lies with the women. But most times it appears the men just don't have the time to take care f thier own health. They are usually busy at work and only agree to come when the counselling unit sends them a formal or informal invitation. It is the same with most other kinds of illness. Men are poor health seekers while women come to hospital at the sign of the littlest headache.


Most of the factors leading to infertility in women have to do with infection. Long standing pelvic infections, blocked tubes etc etc abound, but usually the main cause stems from infection. And this is relatively easy to treat when caught early.


For the men however, their bad lifestyle habits contribute to poor fertility e.g drinking, smoking, multiple sexual partners, travelling long distances wearing tight pants thus exposing the testes to inhumane conditions etc etc all contribute to making the man more prone to having low spérm count and hence increased risk of infertility.

The interesting thing though is that it is usually easier to treat an infertile man than an infertile woman. But that doesn't mean men shouldn't present themselves to the doctor when there is a case of infertility among the couples. In fact, being the head of the house, he should lead by example and be the first to see the doctor to know if the problem is coming from him.




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Eat fruits and vegetables? Is that another name for zex?
Carb rich diet eg eba, poundo, Amala or akpu then round it off with some zex.
Fruit and vegetables for cleansing when horses start to fly.

so messed and it is so sad.

Chillisauce:
Nigeria is messed up. The generator fumes, dust everywhere, poor diet, lack of goodhealth care etc.
Most times outdoors or in the market I find myself gasping for air. All these have effects on overall health of people.
People should try as much as possible to go for check up once a while and eat food meals. Esp vegetable and fruits . It's cleanses a lot and boost your immune system.
Most Nigerian men don't like going for check up. Always petronizing "chemist".
Pls people should take their health seriously.

The bold is the summary.
Leave the other long talks

5minsmadness:
Still going though the thread.
However.

I have been privileged to work in many fertility counselling clinics all over southern nigeria and Kwara.

For the majority of men it is almost an act of War asking them to come for fertility tests. The usual scenario is that the woman comes first and then we insist the tests won't continue until she is accompanied by her husband. Same with HIV screening tests and counselling.

Reason might be traditional i.e men feeling they have nothing wrong with them and that the issue lies with the women . But most times it appears the men just don't have the time to take care f thier own health. They are usually busy at work and only agree to come when the counselling unit sends them a formal or informal invitation. It is the same with most other kinds of illness. Men are poor health seekers while women come to hospital at the sign of the littlest headache.


Most of the factors leading to infertility in women have to do with infection. Long standing pelvic infections, blocked tubes etc etc abound, but usually the main cause stems from infection. And this is relatively easy to treat when caught early.


For the men however, their bad lifestyle habits contribute to poor fertility e.g drinking, smoking, multiple sexual partners, travelling long distances wearing tight pants thus exposing the testes to inhumane conditions etc etc all contribute to making the man more prone to having low spérm count and hence increased risk of infertility.

The interesting thing though is that it is usually easier to treat an infertile man than an infertile woman. But that doesn't mean men shouldn't present themselves to the doctor when there is a case of infertility among the couples. In fact, being the head of the house, he should lead by example and be the first to see the doctor to know if the problem is coming from him.




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5minsmadness:
Still going though the thread.
However.

I have been privileged to work in many fertility counselling clinics all over southern nigeria and Kwara.

For the majority of men it is almost an act of War asking them to come for fertility tests. The usual scenario is that the woman comes first and then we insist the tests won't continue until she is accompanied by her husband. Same with HIV screening tests and counselling.

Reason might be traditional i.e men feeling they have nothing wrong with them and that the issue lies with the women. But most times it appears the men just don't have the time to take care f thier own health. They are usually busy at work and only agree to come when the counselling unit sends them a formal or informal invitation. It is the same with most other kinds of illness. Men are poor health seekers while women come to hospital at the sign of the littlest headache.


Most of the factors leading to infertility in women have to do with infection. Long standing pelvic infections, blocked tubes etc etc abound, but usually the main cause stems from infection. And this is relatively easy to treat when caught early.


For the men however, their bad lifestyle habits contribute to poor fertility e.g drinking, smoking, multiple sexual partners, travelling long distances wearing tight pants thus exposing the testes to inhumane conditions etc etc all contribute to making the man more prone to having low spérm count and hence increased risk of infertility.

The interesting thing though is that it is usually easier to treat an infertile man than an infertile woman. But that doesn't mean men shouldn't present themselves to the doctor when there is a case of infertility among the couples. In fact, being the head of the house, he should lead by example and be the first to see the doctor to know if the problem is coming from him.




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I find it strange that a husband would not go for check ups when they are ttc.

Common sense should dictate they both go for all tests So they know If the problem is with the husband /wife/none.

Infact, hospitals should stop treating wives/husbands who come alone; it honestly defeats the purpose

And I do not buy the excuse that the men areally busy hence they cannot go for check ups. Some hosiptals work round the clock and on the average, men and women work same hours here.

bukatyne:
I find it strange that a husband would not go for check ups when they are ttc.

Common sense should dictate they both go for all tests So they know If the problem is with the husband /wife/none.

Infact, hospitals should stop treating wives/husbands who come alone; it honestly defeats the purpose

And I do not buy the excuse that the men areally busy hence they cannot go for check ups. Some hosiptals work round the clock and on the average, men and women work same hours here.

The time of ignorance is over

babyosisi:
The time of ignorance is over

How do sensible hospitals do it sef?

The first question should be where is your spouse before consultations?

If the husband is too busy for consultation, How will he have time of kpekus?

Anyway you look at it, women are still the reason for high rate of male infertility if we are to believe the suspicious statistics from the end time marriage counsellor and co. Take a look at two causative factors like Alcohol and Sexually transmitted infections (stis). Look at somebody like Kilode for instance who fvcks sorry infects three guys at once during her foursome with guys. Do the maths. 3menx365 days. That is more than 1000 men from one single woman. Now that she has commenced advertising her services on Naira land that number is bound to increase. Again she sucks unwashed assholes for a living. Now she kisses sorry kills those three men with the same mouth during her foursome Group Intimacy premium action time. Just imagine the number of men only she has already infected. We know women are more prone to toilet infections due to the nature of their sexual organ and because the average woman by far has more sexual partners more men than women are therefore affected and subsequently develop fertility issues.
How many do not know that many men in a bid to escape from quarrelsome and abusive wives at home are driven to beer parlours where they take to alcohol?
So in the final analysis, women are the driving factors behind higher rates of male infertility these days.

Mom: " Bob, who opened that"?
Bob : " I did but Eric made me do it"
Eric : "WTF" ??

buhahaha .. When I thought I've read it ALL on NL.

cococandy:
The bold is the summary.
Leave the other long talks

As usual, seeing only what you want to see and ignoring the rest.

How the hell do you grow?

bukatyne:
I find it strange that a husband would not go for check ups when they are ttc.

Common sense should dictate they both go for all tests So they know If the problem is with the husband /wife/none.

Infact, hospitals should stop treating wives/husbands who come alone; it honestly defeats the purpose

And I do not buy the excuse that the men areally busy hence they cannot go for check ups. Some hosiptals work round the clock and on the average, men and women work same hours here.

Hmmn, you'll be amazed.

The governor of delta state has a huge lump on his head. Its just a fatty lump but he refuses to remove it. Says he hasn't had the time and its not disturbing him so why bother.

If you woke up one morning and noticed a huge lump on your head what would you do?

dinachi:
Anyway you look at it, women are still the reason for high rate of male infertility if we are to believe the suspicious statistics from the end time marriage counsellor and co. Take a look at two causative factors like Alcohol and Sexually transmitted infections (stis). Look at somebody like Kilode for instance who fvcks sorry infects three guys at once during her foursome with guys. Do the maths. 3menx365 days. That is more than 1000 men from one single woman. Now that she has commenced advertising her services on Naira land that number is bound to increase. Again she sucks unwashed assholes for a living. Now she kisses sorry kills those three men with the same mouth during her foursome Group Intimacy premium action time. Just imagine the number of men only she has already infected. We know women are more prone to toilet infections due to the nature of their sexual organ and because the average woman by far has more sexual partners more men than women are therefore affected and subsequently develop fertility issues.
How many do not know that many men in a bid to escape from quarrelsome and abusive wives at home are driven to beer parlours where they take to alcohol?
So in the final analysis, women are the driving factors behind higher rates of male infertility these days.

Forget all the dogon turenchi
Have you done your sperm count and motility tests ?

bukatyne:
I find it strange that a husband would not go for check ups when they are ttc.

Common sense should dictate they both go for all tests So they know If the problem is with the husband /wife/none.

Infact, hospitals should stop treating wives/husbands who come alone; it honestly defeats the purpose

And I do not buy the excuse that the men areally busy hence they cannot go for check ups. Some hosiptals work round the clock and on the average, men and women work same hours here.

What you are advocating for here is that the woman should suffer for the decision of her husband.

Is that fair?

It is better to treat one of the spouses than not to treat either of them at all.

5minsmadness:
As usual, seeing only what you want to see and ignoring the rest.

How the hell do you grow?

I'll grow by a accepting that some of those guys are too busy to check out their health?

I can see how grown you are.

cococandy:
I'll grow by a accepting that some of those guys are too busy to check out their health?

I can see how grown you are.

Do you have experience in this field?

I do.

I'm not just whistling dixie. I'm telling you facts. Check out the hypertensives and diabetics and rheumatism and arthritis and occular deficient patients. On average, MEN ALWAYS PRESENT LATER THAN WOMEN. Its not just a fertility thing, its a general health issue.

There are many women in Nigeria who conceive easily the first time and unable to conceive subsequently
If from pelvic inflammatory diseases and the woman is faithful,most likely they could have caught some stuff from philandering husbands
who catch gono and chlamydia and pass it on to unsuspecting wives. ( of course other sources exist)
Well most women have no symptoms or very mild symptoms of gono so when you infect them and don't tell because you don't want your cheating known,you are inadvertently rendering her infertile.

Yes I have experience in the field.
I have enough experience to know that men dilly dally when it comes to checking their reproductive and sexual health even in the face of infertility.

They prefer the wives undergoing all the checkup and no men aren't busiest species on the face of the earth. So that excuse is moot.


Ngwa move along.

5minsmadness:
Do you have experience in this field?

I do.

I'm not just whistling dixie. I'm telling you facts. Check out the hypertensives and diabetics and rheumatism and arthritis and occular deficient patients. MEN ALWAYS PRESENT LATER THAN WOMEN. Its not just a fertility thing, its a general health issue.

cococandy:
Yes I have experience in the field.
I have enough experience to know that men dilly dally when it comes to checking their reproductive and sexual health even in the face of infertility.

They prefer the wives undergoing all the checkup and no men aren't busiest species on the face of the earth. So that excuse is moot.


Ngwa move along.

And their own test is very simple o for the most part
Just abstain from sex a few days and use your hand to manipulate yourself and squirt in a cup
Finish.
Many of them won't even agree to that one let alone other tests to check the patency of their tubes etc

babyosisi:
And their own test is very simple o for the most part
Just abstain from sex a few days and use your hand to manipulate yourself and squirt in a cup
Finish.
Many of them won't even agree to that one let alone other tests to check the patency of their tubes etc

ihukwa excuse

Something they even dash the toilet free of charge sometimes

For the men who refuse to be tested,many of their wives in order not to be called barren and harassed by mothers in law and other relatives,they just go and carry belle from outside and everyone is happy.
Who is checking?

It's only when the baby looks like a known man that tongues will wag
A smart woman so inclined knows to find a man that somehow resembles the husband in general features
She will be a fool to be yellow sisi with yellow husband and messing with a man wey black like Tiimaya and Duncan Mighty or have a good looking dark and handsome hubby like Chidi Mokeme and be messing with somebody wey dey like bola tinubu