₦airaland Forum

tucky200:
*Bottom line*
U want biafra.

That is not my point, I just want to scan the hearts of Nigerians if the call for One Nigeria is borne out of love for other Nigerians or love for crude oil.

gobizzy101:
Oil or no oil, 9ja must b 1

Are you sure that without oil Nigeria will still be one?

EUROBOMBER:
The Igbos are descendants of Isaac...

Tell that id1ot not to derail your thread.

I will gladly oblige him.

RomanticAngela:
You forgot to add that after the War, after the collapse of military rule which saw the emergence of the 2nd republic, Joseph Wayas, a man from Cross river was the Senate President; Ume Ezeoke, an ibo man was the speaker. The ibos and the SouthSouth dominated the legislative arm of government then, why didnt you enact laws that will see to the return of regionalsim? What were your lawmakers doing then?

Interestingly also, the unitary government system was introduced by Ironsi who dissolved regionalism to concentrate power to himself; southerners should know who to blame when they are crying for SNC and resource control - they are merely reaping the seeds sown by their own people.

Idrismusty97:
I see you created the thread to slander the North hypocrite. As if your people weren't the first to call for breakup because oil was discovered in your backyard. A discovery made from the investment of every region at the time. Why don't you come out clean and say you want Biafra like the others, stop forming Nigeria unity.

I still believe in Nigeria and I want One Nigeria but one with equity, fairness and justice. We never tried to leave Nigeria in 1967 because of oil but because of the senseless killing of our people by northerners in the north.

BlackTechnology:
Has Aregbese gotten his allocation of oyel money to pay salaries

Why would Yorubas want Odua republic when they are sure that they won't be able to pay salaries without Lower Niger republic oyel money

Please this thread is not about the states currently owing salaries, I want to scan what is in the hearts of Nigerians when they say 'One Nigeria.'

EUROBOMBER:
Barcanista

Passingshot

We do not have to be in the same country. However, have you thought of what separation will achieve for you?

I have always maintained that leadership is every region's problem in Nigeria. Look at how many years the north has ruled this country and tell me if the development in their region reflects it.

Tell me the amount of money that has gone to the ND since 1999 (it's more if you add IBB's regime), and tell me if the development in that region is commensurate with the money.

If we separate, ND to me will even have more problem than any of the other break-away regions. The reason being that, as at today, the Itsekiris have been in a long-drawn battle with the Urhobos and Ijaws in Delta state and such hostilities will remain and possibly get worse after separation. The Kalabaris, Aguileris and Umuleris have their own ethnic wahala too. Do you think separation will bring an end to all of that? I seriously don't think so.

Lastly, take a look at what is happening in South Sudan after peaceful separation from Sudan. Now, many of them wish they never separated because of the troubles they currently have which they may never get out of.

Many examples abound for me not to support balkanization of the country. What I will support instead is true federalism whereby each federating unit contribute certain percentage of their earnings to the purse of the central government.

Luckily, we have the structure that can achieve that which is the people's representatives in the NASS but sadly we are not pushing them to do it. Instead, we shout from morning till night for Biafra and Lower Niger Republic.

Idrismusty97:
Interestingly also, the unitary government system was introduced by Ironsi who dissolved regionalism to concentrate power to himself; southerners should know who to blame when they are crying for SNC and resource control - they are merely reaping the seeds sown by their own people.

Why is it taking Nigeria eternity to correct the mistake of one man-Ironsi? Is this not shameful

EUROBOMBER:
Your party the APC is now in power, can you guys push for a better structuring of this country? I think the center is too powerful and attractive.

Although I don't bat for any party as such, I am prepared to join hands with well-meaning Nigerians on NL and elsewhere - to push for a new configuration. This has long been my position. Now don't expect this offer to be extended to "dingbats" (as a perennially angry elder is wont to say), bigots, and other out-of-favour renegades though.

Wsdm:
When Groundnut and cocoa were sustaining us, why didn't the North and the South West asked for separation? The fact remain that the North and the South West are naturally accommodating to other Nigerians- the reasons why they have the greatest influx of people from other parts of the country.
Mind you that the Hausa/Fulanis are not with the mentality of born to rule. But read this simple analysis;
1 They are most populated.
2 They are most United.
3 They are most accommodating(which will add to their population)
With the above, except they relinquish power willingly in a democracy, no other region can muscle them in a fair election.
This is why other region feel intimidated and thereby coined the phrase- 'born to rule'.

I promise you 7 rounds of toto

PassingShot:
We do not have to be in the same country. However, have you thought of what separation will achieve for you?

I have always maintained that leadership is every region's problem in Nigeria. Look at how many years the north has ruled this country and tell me if the development in their region reflects it.

Tell me the amount of money that has gone to the ND since 1999 (it's more if you add IBB's regime), and tell me if the development in that region is commensurate with the money.

If we separate, ND to me will even have more problem than any of the other break-away regions. The reason being that, as at today, the Itsekiris have been in a long-drawn battle with the Urhobos and Ijaws in Delta state and such hostilities will remain and possibly get worse after separation. The Kalabaris, Aguileris and Umuleris have their own ethnic wahala too. Do you think separation will bring an end to all of that? I seriously don't think so.

Lastly, take a look at what is happening in South Sudan after peaceful separation from Sudan. Now, many of them wish they never separated because of the troubles they currently have which they may never get out of.

(1) Many examples abound for me not to support balkanization of the country. What I will support instead is true federalism whereby each federating unit contribute certain percentage of their earnings to the purse of the central government.

(2) Luckily, we have the structure that can achieve that which is the people's representatives in the NASS but sadly we are not pushing them to do it. Instead, we shout from morning till night for Biafra and Lower Niger Republic.

(1) Your party the APC is now in charge, what plans do you have to ensure true federalism?

(2)

EUROBOMBER:
I still believe in Nigeria and I want One Nigeria but one with equity, fairness and justice. We never tried to leave Nigeria in 1967 because of oil but because of the senseless killing of our people by northerners in the north.

We all want a Nigeria with equity, fairness and justice but stop pointing your dilapidated fingers at the Northerners like we are the cause of all your problems and you are all saints, Hypocrite! This Nairalander said it all.

MeAboki:
Well said, much as they would like to rewrite history by way of selective memory; nothing will take away from the fact or stop people from believing the obvious: that it was an Igbo coup led by Igbo officers with an Igbo agenda, to topple the government of the day and replace it with their own (Azikiwe & co, not Ironsi); because they couldn't stomach the fact that northerners who they saw as inferior were in fact in charge and also being outnumbered they knew they could never achieve it democratically so they chose force - thereby opening the pandora's box for which all of us are still paying for today.

Igbos were not only responsible for truncating our democracy (because of their arrogance and do or die attitude), they were responsible for the riots and killings of their own ppl in the north that followed; yes, firstly through the one sided pro - Igbo policies Ironsi embarked upon and secondly, through blatant provocation (taunting in the streets, markets and other public places) of northerners then by Igbos, it even got to the extent that a cartoon of the Sardauna was depicted in one the popular magazines of the time (DRUM) mocking the northerners that their father (the Sardauna was languishing at the gates of hell); still news also filtered that the late prime minister Tafawa Balewa was not only killed (strangled) but his body was also desecrated (they cut off his privates and put it in his mouth - ppl don't talk of this out of respect) that is how his abandoned decomposing body was found leaning against a tree in the bush days later. This news along with already ongoing issues was enough to push the northerners beyond the limits of self restraint into retaliation.
Interestingly, northerners were so appalled at the time that they wanted separation - so Igbos were not the first but only following after the north (with their separatist) Biafran agenda.
Interestingly also, the unitary government system was introduced by Ironsi who dissolved regionalism to concentrate power to himself; southerners should know who to blame when they are crying for SNC and resource control - they are merely reaping the seeds sown by their own ppl.
In short, all our wahala started with the Igbos and their coup - they should apologised to all Nigerians.

RomanticAngela:
I promise you 7 rounds of toto

Na wa oooo!

PassingShot:
We do not have to be in the same country. However, have you thought of what separation will achieve for you?

I have always maintained that leadership is every region's problem in Nigeria. Look at how many years the north has ruled this country and tell me if the development in their region reflects it.

Tell me the amount of money that has gone to the ND since 1999 (it's more if you add IBB's regime), and tell me if the development in that region is commensurate with the money.

If we separate, ND to me will even have more problem than any of the other break-away regions. The reason being that, as at today, the Itsekiris have been in a long-drawn battle with the Urhobos and Ijaws in Delta state and such hostilities will remain and possibly get worse after separation. The Kalabaris, Aguileris and Umuleris have their own ethnic wahala too. Do you think separation will bring an end to all of that? I seriously don't think so.

Lastly, take a look at what is happening in South Sudan after peaceful separation from Sudan. Now, many of them wish they never separated because of the troubles they currently have which they may never get out of.

Many examples abound for me not to support balkanization of the country. What I will support instead is true federalism whereby each federating unit contribute certain percentage of their earnings to the purse of the central government.

Luckily, we have the structure that can achieve that which is the people's representatives in the NASS but sadly we are not pushing them to do it. Instead, we shout from morning till night for Biafra and Lower Niger Republic.

I dey tell you. There's going to be serious shock when they realise the reality behind their dreams. Igbos are not really united either more like competetive to each other and the itsekiris, urhobos, ijaws are even more seperated than ever.

I believe they fail to see the bigger picture. Africa should concentrating and uniting as one instead of disintegrating. To say that one rehion is being treated unfairly is a big fallacy. Everyone is suffering in this country or do they mean to say that nepa only distribute power to yoruba homes or that only the roads leading to the offices and business places of igbos are bad.

We are all affected by the ineptitude of this government. Let's fight for equal rights and try and put this tribalism behind us. At the end of the day other parts of the world will see us all as Africans.

Whether fried, grilled, barbecued, boiled, chicken na chicken

EUROBOMBER:
Lalasticlala

Ishilove

you are always confuse about what you want, you can't eat your cake and have it.

Your comments are United Nigeria today And pro Biafra tomorrow, write us a detailed piece why you belive in Nigeria or Biafra.

Take a Stand and stop acting Saboteur

EUROBOMBER:
(1) Your party the APC is now in charge, what plans do you have to ensure true federalism?

(2)

You see how some of you behave like kids! We're talking of a topic that should be educative and you're talking of party affiliation!.

If you care to know, I have not attended a political meeting in more than thirteen years (I attended one in around 2002) and I am not a member of any of party even though I support APC especially at the center.

I thought you were serious, if I knew otherwise, I wouldn't have wasted my time here.

Wsdm:
When Groundnut and cocoa were sustaining us, why didn't the North and the South West ask for separation? The fact remain that the North and the South West are naturally accommodating to other Nigerians- the reasons why they have the greatest influx of people from other parts of the country.
Mind you that the Hausa/Fulanis are not with the mentality of born to rule. But read this simple analysis;
1 They are most populated.
2 They are most United.
3 They are most accommodating(which will add to their population)
With the above, except they relinquish power willingly in a democracy, no other region can muscle them in a fair election.
This is why other region feel intimidated and thereby coined the phrase- 'born to rule'.

You are not as smart as you think Mr. Please never describe the north as accommodating and never try to attach the SW to yourselves in this matter. If you say the Yorubas are accomodatring, I will accept that, have you observed that despite all the fighting between the Igbos & Yorubas on nairaland and other socila media platforms, you will not find Igbos killing Yorubas in the East neither will you find Yorubas killing Igbos in the West but the same cannot be said of the northerners who are never satisfied and tired of drinking human blood. Look at what the fulani herdsmen have been doing to the people of the MB and sometimes in the South too. Look at how boko haram is going about their campaign for an Islamic state.

It is only in the north that innocent Southerners were killed just because of a cartoon done in Denmark. It is only in the north that Southerners including NYSC members were killed because a fulani man in the person of Buhari was defeated by a Southerner. Check and see that Buhari defeated the same Southerner this year and nobody went about killing northerners in the South like your people did in the north in 2011 when your man was defeated.


For the bold part, please stop deceiving us. Born-to-rule used to be the slogan for Sokoto state before. is this true or not Mr wsdm?

PassingShot:
You see how some of you behave like kids! We're talking of a topic that should be educative and you're talking of party affiliation!.

If you care to know, I have not attended a political meeting in more than thirteen years (I attended one in around 2002) and I am not a member of any of party even though I support APC especially at the center.

I thought you were serious, if I knew otherwise, I wouldn't have wasted my time here.

Ok, that was a diversion, let us leave party politics and critically examine the topic. Do we love one another or crude oil??

ECOTERRORS:
you are always confuse about what you want, you can't eat your cake and have it.

Your comments are United Nigeria today And pro Biafra tomorrow, write us a detailed piece why you belive in Nigeria or Biafra.

Take a Stand and stop acting Saboteur

I believe in Nigeria and I have always said that here. I have never advocated for Biafra here, get your details right please. I believe in Nigeria but where the break up of the country becomes inevitable then so be it but the name cannot be Biafra, something else will do.

For me, who takes over power from Buhari will determine a lot....

Wsdm:
When Groundnut and cocoa were sustaining us, why didn't the North and the South West ask for separation? The fact remain that the North and the South West are naturally accommodating to other Nigerians- the reasons why they have the greatest influx of people from other parts of the country.
Mind you that the Hausa/Fulanis are not with the mentality of born to rule. But read this simple analysis;
1 They are most populated.
2 They are most United.
3 They are most accommodating(which will add to their population)
With the above, except they relinquish power willingly in a democracy, no other region can muscle them in a fair election.
This is why other region feel intimidated and thereby coined the phrase- 'born to rule'.

Very accommodating and peace loving. yeah I mean the Hausa Fulani .That's why they they leave their trademark PEACE where ever they are.

EUROBOMBER:
I will start by saying that I still believe in a united and prosperous Nigeria where there is equity, fairness and justice.

My question is this, assuming that every single drop of oil dries up in Nigeria today, will those of us that believe in One Nigeria still do so? The One Nigeria that we are shouting today, is it because we genuinely love our country and love one another or is it because of love for crude oil and by extension money? The love of money is the root of all evil.

Another question is this, assuming all the oil reserves located in the Niger Delta were located in the far north say NW, would they not have called for Nigeria to break up long time ago? I personally think the northerners would have quickly severed relationship with the infidel South and formed their own country so that they could solely enjoy their crude oil. If with the South largely feeding this nation mostly from sales of crude oil, the North can be as arrogant as they are presently, just imagine what it would have been if the reverse were the case.

I rest my case.

no problem buhari said he will divert econnmy from oil to farming and mining, no more lazynes be ready to work mr oil

TIMEISWISDOM:
Very accommodating and peace loving. yeah I mean the Hausa Fulani .That's why they they leave their trademark PEACE where ever they are.

Don't mind the hypocrite. How can a sane person describe the hausa/fulani as accommodating

TIMEISWISDOM:
Very accommodating and peace loving. yeah I mean the Hausa Fulani .That's why they they leave their trademark PEACE where ever they are.

Yes
just as the Ngwa people in Abia state still eat human flesh till date.

Just as the Mbaise people in Imo state still has the highest number of witches till date.

Just as the Aguleri and Umuleri still slaughter each other in Anambra state.

Just as the Ezza and Ezzilo still kill each other in Ebonyi state.

Keep denigrating the North whilst leaving the log in your own eye.

EUROBOMBER:
You are not as smart as you think Mr. Please never describe the north as accommodating and never try to attach the SW to yourselves in this matter. If you say the Yorubas are accomodatring, I will accept that, have you observed that despite all the fighting between the Igbos & Yorubas on nairaland and other socila media platforms, you will not find Igbos killing Yorubas in the East neither will you find Yorubas killing Igbos in the West but the same cannot be said of the northerners who are never satisfied and tired of drinking human blood. Look at what the fulani herdsmen have been doing to the people of the MB and sometimes in the South too. Look at how boko haram is going about their campaign for an Islamic state.

It is only in the north that innocent Southerners were killed just because of a cartoon done in Denmark. It is only in the north that Southerners including NYSC members were killed because a fulani man in the person of Buhari was defeated by a Southerner. Check and see that Buhari defeated the same Souther this year and nobody went about killing northerners in the South like your people did in the north in 2011.


For the bold part, please stop deceiving us. Born-to-rule used to be the slogan for Sokoto state before. is this true or not Mr wsdm?

I am not justifying the killing of anybody in any part of the country.
If you live in the North you will understand that the North is accommodating.
The Igbos are very provocative . If a Hausa man does in the east half of what the Igbos do in the North, they will have since been massacred.
An average Hausa man is religiously conservative in nature.The Igbos does not understand this and they exhibit attitudes contrary to the ways of their host communities.

You may say Afterall we are all Nigerians and therefore we are free to do anything so far as the constitution does not kick against it. To be most sincere, can a Hausa lady dress in full veil in Onitsha market without being harassed? The Igbos should learn to socialize with the environment of their hosts to avoid unnecessary provocation. An example is what the Igbos did in Lagos recently.

EUROBOMBER:
Don't mind the hypocrite. How can a sane person describe the hausa/fulani as accommodating

I never knew insanity flows in the blood stream of your tribes men

RomanticAngela:
I never knew insanity flows in the blood stream of your tribes men

Shut up your mouth! hausa/fulani are blood sucking vampires and vermins. I will say that anyday! I weep for the MB people. Ten years from now you would have finished killing all of them and occupying their lands.

Wsdm:
I am not justifying the killing of anybody in any part of the country.
If you live in the North you will understand that the North is accommodating.
The Igbos are very provocative . If a Hausa man does in the east half of what the Igbos do in the North, they will have since been massacred.
An average Hausa man is religiously conservative in nature.The Igbos does not understand this and they exhibit attitudes contrary to the ways of their host communities.

You may say Afterall we are all Nigerians and therefore we are free to do anything so far as the constitution does not kick against it. To be most sincere, can a Hausa lady dress in full veil in Onitsha market without being harassed? The Igbos should learn to socialize with the environment of their hosts to avoid unnecessary provocation. An example is what the Igbos did in Lagos recently.

The bold part is a big lie. The Igbos don't just run around like wild animals killing people, cutting off their heads and opening up pregnant women, we don't do such.

What type of harassment would she face for putting on her full veil please?

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drtwist:
The truth is what has been mention by the op. But the fact remain that the greatest enemy of the niger delta is their leaders. People representing Niger delta are doing so for only their selfish interest.

Let me ask you some question
Have you ask your self why has our senator and rep not push and fight for the seeding of this country?
The under rating of Niger delta, who is benefiting most?
What has the people of Niger Delta done to stop this act being perpetrated by the northerners?

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EUROBOMBER:
Shut up your mouth! hausa/fulani are blood sucking vampires and vermins. I will say that anyday!

Ibos are human flesh eating cannibals, drug dealers, armed robbers, blood money ritualists, kidnappers, baby factory owners, prostitute, alcoholics, granny-rapping- goons, thieves, cheats, 419ners and swindlers

EUROBOMBER:
Shut up your mouth! hausa/fulani are blood sucking vampires and vermins. I will say that anyday!

Ibos are human flesh eating cannibals, drug dealers, armed robbers, blood money ritualists, kidnappers, baby factory owners, prostitute, granny-rapping- goons, theives, alcoholics, cheats, 419ners and swindlers

RomanticAngela:
Ibos are human flesh eating cannibals, drug dealers, armed robbers, blood money ritualists, kidnappers, baby factory owners, prostitute, granny-rapping- goons, theives, alcoholics, cheats, 419ners and swindlers

Despite all these, we have not drank up to one-tenth the amount of blood the hausa/fulani have drank in this country and still drinking.

While Igbos get drunk on alcohol, the hausa/fulani get drunk on human blood. Never have I imagined being in the same country as such ferocious beasts like the hausa/fulani. Blood-sucking monstrous vermins from the depths of hell.

How much more human meat does boko haram intend to eat before they allow us have peace in Nigeria

EUROBOMBER:
You are not as smart as you think Mr. Please never describe the north as accommodating and never try to attach the SW to yourselves in this matter. If you say the Yorubas are accomodatring, I will accept that, have you observed that despite all the fighting between the Igbos & Yorubas on nairaland and other socila media platforms, you will not find Igbos killing Yorubas in the East neither will you find Yorubas killing Igbos in the West but the same cannot be said of the northerners who are never satisfied and tired of drinking human blood. Look at what the fulani herdsmen have been doing to the people of the MB and sometimes in the South too. Look at how boko haram is going about their campaign for an Islamic state.

It is only in the north that innocent Southerners were killed just because of a cartoon done in Denmark. It is only in the north that Southerners including NYSC members were killed because a fulani man in the person of Buhari was defeated by a Southerner. Check and see that Buhari defeated the same Southerner this year and nobody went about killing northerners in the South like your people did in the north in 2011 when your man was defeated.


For the bold part, please stop deceiving us. Born-to-rule used to be the slogan for Sokoto state before. is this true or not Mr wsdm?

I have to agree with you on this one. The north are the most unwelcoming tribe in Nigeria. I have lost few people to violence in Katsina.