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flexrivers:
Otr1 is JW, though most of the write up is true but I don't trust their teaching either. How can one claim there is no Hell fire?

I'm not JW O
For the records, I am a C.A.C member. I also worship at Living Faith and RCCG depending on my location.
I've never stepped my feet in JW Kingdom hall and not going to do so. But don't misquote me, hell is real, but not eternal. The soul that sinneth shall die (Ezekiel 18:20) the second and final death (Rev. 20:14-15) not burn for eternity. Only the righteous will live forever.

calabaman:
time to ammend my ways


after the hustling in 9ja... I MUST MAKE HEAVEN OOOOOOOOOO

You are still getting it wrong thinking that people are going to heaven. That is one of the false teaching.

otr1:
The dead will be judged after the Second coming of Jesus, but in the meantime, the dead remain dead.

This is where you made a mistake!
Bro...we are currently in the second coming!

The first coming was when he came to die for our sins!

Minet16:
Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
many people look out for works of pastors which is very wrong... a pastor is not geniune because he perfoms miracles, rather by the things he exhibits which are fruits... note: by their fruits not by their works









while What you are saying is right, you should know that geniune men of God too can preach wrongly just because certain influences... so it isn't just by their teachings alone but by their fruits ye shall know them

MINET16

It's their teaching that will yield good fruit. If we're busy praying about money, people will get more interested in chasing after money and even compromise Godly standards while doing that. Seek ye first, the kingdom of God and other things will fall in line, not putting the cart before the horse.

otr1:
Hell is real, but not eternal as being preached.
The Bible says, the soul that sinneth shall die (Ezekiel 18:20).
The Bible talks about second death in Revelation 20:14-15. That is it. Death, hell (hades which means grave), and whosoever is not found written in the book of life will be thrown into the lake of fire. They will perish forever, not burn eternally. That is the Bible truth.
Our God is not a tyrant that he will burn people for eternity just for a short life of sin, in a body prone to sin.

this is very strange to me, but is heaven real? Are you saying if we die in sin we just perish or disintegrate for ever? But man is made of body,soul and spirit, the spirit man cannot die cos GOD never created the spirit to die, if you say there is no hell fire then we will have a chaotic world, sin is pleasurable people will just indulge in sinful acts all through thier stay on earth and end uo in hell

hadura29:
Can u interpret dreams? Or can you refer me?

No Sir.

dddrexjr:
pls m a little bit confused cos almost all the successful pastors are called fake prophets,u'l hear ppl testifying dat these "men of God" are into cults bla bla bla.
so pls hu is d REAL PROHET?

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By their fruits you shall know them. But to know which fruit is good or bad, you need to know ur bible.

Hmmm and some people be preparing to zoom off into space and go spend eternity on sugar-candy mountain, where they only work they'll do is to sing...
Bunch of lazy idiots, when you discover yourselves and your purpose on earth that's when you'll start existing...... As for now you're just a walking corpse with brains in Utopia.

macgibbs:
William M.Braham

the angel to the laodicean church.Really?

The part about not buying or selling unless u receive the beast's mark is really interesting. Imagine, this is a prophecy given 1000s of yrs ago and it is gradually coming to pass. As a child I use to think the end time is abouts horrible animals coming to rule man. But it is all about man under the control of satan. America is slowly implementing their chip implant, I'l say they are just in a testing stage. They know what they're doing. They may face challenges like muslim countries etc, but they'll slowly overcome them and you'll see the prophecy coming to pass.
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10yrs ago, would u have believed that something like gay marriage will be legal? As new generations keep having faint knowledge of morals, a lot will be happening.
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I encourage every one to read this grand plan by an ocultic woman.
https://m.facebook.com/notes/pastor-david-ogbueli/the-10-point-plan-by-alice-bailey-and-the-new-world-order-for-the-destruction-of/10151669226247539.

I so much agree with what u wrote. Early hours of yesterday i had revelation about rapture, Many people were left behind. The coming of messiah is nearer more than we think. I pray that God will give us the grace to make heaven at last Amen. Happy Sunday to you all

sixtus3606:
This is where you made a mistake!
Bro...we are currently in the second coming!

The first coming was when he came to die for my sins!

done!

Stop tagging people as sinners... Its not funny... Let people start taking responsibilities for their wrongdoings... This title gives them them the impetus to do more cause they'll think after all they were born to inherit it...

gbrown:
this is very strange to me, but is heaven real? Are you saying if we die in sin we just perish or disintegrate for ever? But man is made of body,soul and spirit, the spirit man cannot die cos GOD never created the spirit to die, if you say there is no hell fire then we will have a chaotic world, sin is pleasurable people will just indulge in sinful acts all through thier stay on earth and end uo in hell

The area of man was made of body, soul and spirit is another area we are getting it wrong.
In Genesis 2:7 that man was formed of the dust and breath into and became a living soul. At death, the breath returns to the Giver while man returns to dust(Genesis 3:19, Eccles 3:20, 9:5, 10, Psalm 103:14, 115:17).
When we die, we sleep (Matt 9:24) and we do not have an immortal soul floating around.
I didn't say there's no hell fire. There is, but it's not meant to burn people for eternity. It will punish and destroy sinners once and for all

Superstar007:
But all these have been happening since the days of Abraham except your number one which is only normal that man strives to better his way of living, if technology is evil, why are you on the net? Why not throw your phone away? Why not go back to the traditional way of doing things?
I'm sure you are one of those people that go about propagating how Obama is implanting chips into people's forehead.

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Technology is neither good nor bad. It depends on how we use it. Do we use it for God's glory or for Satan's glory? You bought a phone is not bad, but did you buy it to entice one lady? Or to feed ur pride? These are bad. I hope u get it.

drizzytee:
booof!!! like in cartoons right?

newsflash:we are not a bunch of 11 year olds.

There is no end time, when you die thats your end time-thats how i feel. None of the points you highlighted above is new, those things have all been going on since the days of the dinosaurs.

Thats what makes you feel safe. not accepting

otr1:
The signs of the end times is something that all faithfuls must look for to find out how close we are to the second coming of Christ Jesus. Even many non believers are looking into this issue now, which shows there are significant changes going on in our world today. Many people are wondering what is happening with all these disasters, wars, worldwide economic woes, animal deaths and a general degredation in society. And the Bible has the answer. They are the signs that the end of the world as we know it is close.
Christ said Himself ..."So likewise ye,when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors"(Matthew 24:33). We know that we cannot fix a date, but we know the signs.
In Daniel 2, verses 31-45, we have a prophecy of all the different kingdoms that were to rule the world from the time of Babylon, right up until the end of the world and the second coming of Christ (destroying rock). And where are we today? We are in the feet of the image. Amongst the divided kingdoms of the world.
So this prophecy alone tells us that this generation is living in the "end times". And when did the "age" of the feet begin? In A.D.476.
We have been in the last age for over 1500 years! Conflict and war rages across the globe. Disaster after disaster unfolds upon the nations. Economies are collapsing around the world. Animal life is diseased and dying. And wickedness and sin is rampant. Do you have eyes to see what is happening? God is giving us plenty of warning!

Sign 1- Ability to Enforce Mark of the Beast
Revelation 13:17 .....'And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.'... We are told in this Bible verse that during the last days the beast system would enforce the world to take the mark of the beast.
Now carefully think about this one. It says in Revelation 13 that those who don't take the mark will not be able to buy or sell. So what needs to happen for this prophecy to be fulfilled, to stop people from "buying and selling"? We need to get rid of cash right? And replace it with an electronic form of payment. It would then be easy to press a button and freeze the finances of any person who refuses to go along with the beast. Has this been possible in the past? No, because we did not have the technology to do it. But now we do have the technology and the people in control are actively pushing for this to happen today. This is a sure sign of the end times that we live in.

Sign 2- Perilous Times Shall Come
2 Timothy 3:1-5 .....'This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.'... The Perilous times are here, and will continue to get worse. There are protests, riots and uprisings all over the world today. The economy worldwide is in trouble and everything just seems ready to explode! And this plays into the hands of the beast power who can bring the "solution" to the troubles of this world. But that solution will be a deception.

Sign 3- Those Who Destroy The Earth, God Will Destroy
Revelation 11:18 ...'And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.'... This applies to the end time signs and is an amazing one that many people miss. What could man do to the earth throughout history? Not much, other than sling a few arrows and rocks and dig the ground with a shovel. But what does man do to the earth today? We destroy with great weapons of war and massive industry. Pollute the air with chemicals. Pollute the waters with oil and other toxins. Destroy the forests and so on. And as you will see from the list of mass animal deaths, the animals are dying in great numbers because of it.
There is no other time in history where mankind was destroying the earth like we are today. This is a sure sign of the times.

Sign 4- False Christs and Prophets
Matthew 24:4-5,11 .....'many shall come in My Name, saying, I am Christ .... and many false prophets shall arise and deceive many.'..... With this one, we tend to focus on the "false Christs" and forget that the sign also includes false prophets and preachers. Sure, we have certainly had many characters claiming to either be Christ, or a special "chosen one". And it doesn't stop there, as there are many new age, spiritualist, and satanic cults in the world today that deceive the masses.
But we now also have a world full of false prophets, preachers and movements like never before within the churches that preach error and deceive millions of people. For example, the prosperity gospel preachers who focus entirely on material wealth and prosperity and do not convict people of sin.
And the only reason people are deceived by these is because they don't study the Bible. We need to test everyone against the Word of God to see if what they are preaching is the truth.

Sign 5- Famine
Matthew 24:7 ....'and there shall be famine.'..... We are living in such a time of famine and hunger all over the world today, that there are thousands of people dying of starvation EVERY DAY. What makes this even more sad is that the amount of food that is wasted by the rest of us could feed these poor people who are starving to death. God will judge everyone for what we have done, or what we DIDN'T do.

Sign 6- Earthquakes in Diverse Places
Matthew 24:7 .....'and earthquakes in divers places.'.....
Costa Rica sees increase in seismic activity during past 62 years.
Over 3,000 noticeable quakes hit Japan in 2012.
Over 5,000 earthquakes hit Mexico in 2012.
Koreas experienced twice as many quakes in 2012 than in the past.
The world is now experiencing 3,000+ earthquakes every month!
Jesus Christ said that there would be earthquakes in "diverse" places, and that prophecy is certainly being fulfilled.

Sign 7- Killed For Your Faith
Matthew 24:9-10 .....'Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.'..... Christians are being persecuted and killed all over the world for their faith in Christ Jesus, especially in places like China, Russia, Africa, Iraq, Israel, even here in Nigeria, etc. And soon this persecution will rise up in the western world when the mark of the beast is enforced. The Roman Catholic Church killed tens of millions of Christians during the dark ages between 538 - 1798AD, and this evil will rise again just before Jesus returns.

Sign 8- Sinful Society
Matthew 24:12 .....'And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.'..... Idolatry, Adultery, Violence, Lust, Greed, Homosexuality, Theft, Lying. Just take a look around you and you will see the world is abounding in these sins, and not just the heathen world, but also WITHIN THE CHURCH! The love of many have certainly "waxed cold" and the fact that many professing Christians believe that the ten commandments are no longer binding, then naturally sin is going to increase.
Look at how society was just 50 or so years ago. People could leave their houses unlocked without fear of a thief entering the house. People dressed more modestly and women were not dressed in a "sensual" way. People were a lot more "pious" and caring and courteous towards one another. But today, society has degraded to an all time low.

Sign 9- People Will be Lovers of Pleasure
2 Timothy 3:1-5 .....'This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall belovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.'..... Again, take a look around the world today and you will that this Bible verse above concerning the end times is being fulfilled. Now notice that it says people will be lovers of PLEASURE more than lovers of God, and that they SEEM to be Godly, but in reality they are Christians by name only. This is a perfect description of the church today.

Sign 10- War and Rumours of War
Matthew 24:6-7 .....'And ye shall hear of wars ..... For nation shall rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom.'..... Many people mock and say that this isn't a sign of the end times, because all these things have been happening for centuries, but when you look at the stats you can see that the frequency and intensity is greatly increasing. For instance, over the past century there has been well over 200 wars and conflicts that has brought about the death of well over 150 million people. And there hasn't been one single day where a war or conflict hasn't been fought.

Sign 11- Knowledge Shall be Increased
Daniel 12:4 .....'even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.'..... This Bible verse concerning the end times can have two applications. The first is applied to Biblical knowledge concerning Bible prophecy. Since 1844 the truth of Bible prophecy has been opened up to God's people like never before and He now has a remnant church with the full truth. The second application is that of worldly knowledge. Just look at how much technology has developed over the past 50 years. We have seen an incredible increase of knowledge there.

Sign 12- True Gospel Preached Throughout the World
Matthew 24:14 .....'And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations;and then shall the end come.'.....Jesus said that "THIS GOSPEL", meaning the TRUE gospel must be preached and then the end would come. This true gospel is being preached through many websites, not forgetting the pulpit, tv, radio, books etc. The gospel of Christ Jesus is now reaching the ends of the world and the return of Jesus is in sight.
GET READY! He is coming soon!

Yes, I am here again. Concerning the mark, the number 666. Revelation says it is a human number and only the wise would calculate it. What does that mean to you? The mark might not be a physical mark or number.

Sign 11. I object. Your first impression is very correct. But the second has nothing to do with the sign. Technology can best be used to further the preaching.

look no be today we don dey hear end times.....look i dont thinkk this world will ever end.....its a continious world..so na for my own turn na e go end..what of my pikin own time.....pls u guy should focus more on making this earth a haeven for us all than preaching end times...n heavenly conscious movement...

end time kor...screaming in femi kuti voice wonder wonder wonder wonder ......till u turn to wanderer...will jesus ever come oooo..i dont know....i dont know....lol

Phinity318:
The former minister of petroleum she's also going through her end times .... cancer treatment is not a joke ...no one dares it and escapes ....Marian babangida .former DG of nafdac..etc ....we all thought the world was gonna end in the renaissance age ...today here we are .. I remember millennium 2000 the rumors of end of the world ....

My humble opinion : Ur world ends the day u die .
Be good always, u only got ur soul as ur companion when u journey to the land of the unknown.

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It depends on ur knowledge of Daniel's prophecy. The prophecy let us know that the last days started over 1500 yrs ago, that is to tell u how patience God is. Remember that the bible said that a thousand yrs is like a day in God's eyes. So 1500 yrs is just 1.5 days. The verse also said that a day is like 1000 yrs in His eyes. This sharp contrast simply tells u that to God, yrs or days wrt lenght doesn't matter. It is to us that it matters.
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As for the rumor in 2000 and other yrs, those where due to ignorance of men. The bible said the no man knows when the second coming will be, not even Jesus. But it will come like a theif.

Hence the need for all man created by God to serve him diligently....

sixtus3606:
This is where you made a mistake!
Bro...we are currently in the second coming!

The first coming was when he came to die for our sins!

Rather, we are in the phase of end time that will usher in the second coming. Jesus has not yet come the second time, but the events now are heralding his eminent return to be at hand.
We are at the final stage of the end time. The appearance of the Son of Man shall be in a cloud with power and glory (Luke 21:27) not in secret.

FarmTech:
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Technology is neither good nor bad. It depends on how we use it. Do we use it for God's glory or for Satan's glory? You bought a phone is not bad, but did you buy it to entice one lady? Or to feed ur pride? These are bad. I hope u get it.

Technology is good. As with everything, it also has its demerits, because of the impact of technology in life, we are able to do things more better and efficiently. For instance, because of the phone you are using, you can communicate with someone in another continent. It has impacted us in almost if not all the sphere of life.
Technology was intended to make life simpler, not to give God glory, your analogy doesn't in anyway correlate with the subject under discuss. And it's funny and ridden with ignorance. Phones were made to ease up communication and not to impress anyone.

Mellin:
Rubbish

I heard that when I was just 5 years
We are in a world that will never end. Stop all these stupid posts pls.
We all are God... Read how I realised am a god and how I took control of my life. Today am the happiest man on earth cos I have learnt how to use my divine power

www.nairaland.com/2338294/must-read-why-how-became

when you were young there's nothing like rfid chip that'll be compulsory soon to buy and sell, internet wasn't as elaborate as today, fake pastors are not as as much with miracles, stem cell engineering and biowarfare wasn't advance, immorality as early as preschoolers wasn't as copious. The harvest is ripe

Maximus85:
Yes, I am here again. Concerning the mark, the number 666. Revelation says it is a human number and only the wise would calculate it. What does that mean to you? The mark might not be a physical mark or number.

Sign 11. I object. Your first impression is very correct. But the second has nothing to do with the sign. Technology can best be used to further the preaching.

I'm not implying that Technology is bad. In fact, I acknowledge its role in spreading the gospel in Sign 12 (websites, Tv, Radio etc). The point I was trying to make there is that the knowledge of good and bad will increase.

My daily is that even if i miss everything on Earth, let me not miss he Kingdom of God

herald9:
done!

Stop tagging people as sinners... Its not funny... Let people start taking responsibilities for their wrongdoings... This title gives them them the impetus to do more cause they'll think after all they were born to inherit it...

Lol...I reason with you! Weldone.

All these things the op posted have been happening since time immemorial. War have been since the beginning of man kind. What do you think the war of the crusades were for faith or for resources. Please write about something else

otr1:
Rather, we are in the phase of end time that will usher in the second coming. Jesus has not yet come the second time, but the events now are heralding his eminent return to be at hand.
We are at the final stage of the end time. The appearance of the Son of Man shall be in a cloud with power and glory (Luke 21:27) not in secret.

That's the point! I hope nairalanders are following this post?! Weldone bro!

You are wrong my dear. Eternal hell fire exists, rapture and trinity exists too.. But wait how are you a christian and don't believe in the trinity?

otr1:
Through their teachings, you shall know them.
What does the Bible says? What are they teaching their congregation? Most of them only talk about properity and miracles and never real repentant and sin.
Most Churches have missed it, even when teaching about the coming of Christ, they teach what's not in the scripture.
The teaching of eternal hell fire, rapture, trinity, the changing of the Seventh day Sabbath to sunday etc, are all false teachings.

sixtus3606:
That's the point! I hope nairalanders are following this post?! Weldone bro!

To God be all the glory

Its true, God unto u i commit my soul

Lol!!