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| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by ronald4lif(m): 2:58pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
lepasharon:Medicine through science heal people, not supernatural forces. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by okeyfx(m): 2:59pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
OP you need to read this, maybe it will change your mind. am not that holy myself but i believe in God. Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ? Student : Yes, sir. Professor: So, you believe in GOD ? Student : Absolutely, sir. Professor : Is GOD good ? Student : Sure. Professor: Is GOD all powerful ? Student : Yes. Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm? (Student was silent.) Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good? Student : Yes. Professor: Is satan good ? Student : No. Professor: Where does satan come from ? Student : From … GOD … Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world? Student : Yes. Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct? Student : Yes. Professor: So who created evil ? (Student did not answer.) Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they? Student : Yes, sir. Professor: So, who created them ? (Student had no answer.) Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD? Student : No, sir. Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD? Student : No , sir. Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter? Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t. Professor: Yet you still believe in Him? Student : Yes. Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son? Student : Nothing. I only have my faith. Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has. Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat? Professor: Yes. Student : And is there such a thing as cold? Professor: Yes. Student : No, sir. There isn’t. (The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.) Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it. (There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.) Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness? Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness? Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you? Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ? Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed. Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how? Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey? Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do. Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir? (The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.) Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class was in uproar.) Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain? (The class broke out into laughter. ) Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir? (The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.) Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son. Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving. P.S. I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you? Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH. By the way, that student was EINSTEIN. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Nobody: 3:04pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
989900:okay. First of all am not the op's mouth piece, just trying to understand the concept of your post. secondly, you stated some facts in your previous post and then went on to say its your opinion. I think you should heed to your own advise first Thanks |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Emeskhalifa(m): 3:11pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
2dillu2:pls go to kano state and tell them you an atheist |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by okeyfx(m): 3:13pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
okeyfx:please somebody should quote on FP |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Nobody: 3:13pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
freecocoa:So u are an atheist? |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Legit: 3:13pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Dapo777:You're right, religion doesnt make sense. You cannot proof any of it, we just follow like mumu. We sooo belive in all these foreign imported deity, that is why their jesus has blue eyes, and and quran is in their language. Why all the angel's name are english name, and all quran name are arabic name. Religion is man's invention. Just follow your conscience. These pastors, just getting rich from your sweat. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:16pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
donbenie:I don't think you got my point |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Legit: 3:20pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
ibkgab001:100% u are fooling yourself. Since when u have dinner with god. You are just follow follow. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:22pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
okeyfx:This is why christianity is bad for people. It makes them proud liars for Jesus Sorry to burst ur bubble but Einstein was not a christian |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Orunto: 3:23pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Tell people you never had parents and relations, knowledge and understanding. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by SIRANDREWS: 3:23pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
okeyfx:The same regurgitated bullsh1t meant to prove the existence of god. Can't you get creative? or isn't there any hidden knowledge in your holy book to validate your beliefs?. BTW, when next u come up with a new version of such bullsh1ts, try not to touch the name Einstein. He's too knowledgeable to endure such bullsh1ts. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by lepasharon(f): 3:23pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
macof:lool..Lying for Jesus |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by freecocoa(f): 3:27pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Dapo777:Lol, i've been open about it on here na, I guess you all are surprised because people see atheists/free thinkers as bad people, I probably have proven such thought to be wrong. ![]() |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by SpeedyConnect(m): 3:31pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
ronald4lif:Well, in this case your belief is immaterial. If you don't believe that Obamabis the US president, it changes nothing. And what do you make of odeshi, African bullet proof? |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:33pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
chiefolododo:How do you know this? |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by SpeedyConnect(m): 3:34pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
freecocoa:But do you think one can spiritually cause you accident, illness? And do you believe that people can see visions or say who among 10 people stole which in the case of a missing item? Am just asking oo. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:34pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
gamaliel121:How did god reveal himself to you? Did he reveal himself to u in an ecstatic way today in church? Abi u no go church |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:38pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
mohisi:Mr man. There's nothing like "I woke up this morning na god win" You woke up by ur own power. ..no god involved It's very simple really, I don't know why people disturb others wit their God |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:42pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
Slimmos:Lol Ifa is in my blood. .. a family heritage that I must follow I cannot be atheist doesn't mean I don't know why and understand why people are |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by chiefolododo(m): 3:43pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
NA GOD macof: |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Octaves(m): 3:43pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
I'm a christian myself. and I don't give a damn what any other person believes. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:43pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
stigman: only in fictional movies of low quality |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by freecocoa(f): 3:45pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
SpeedyConnect:No, one can only hurt you when they are seeing you, nothing like sending accident or sickness, na bluetooth them dey use? ![]() Nobody is seeing any vision, people can predict and be accurate though, plus you can tell a thief amongst people, body language plays a major role. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by ronald4lif(m): 3:46pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
SpeedyConnect:Are you comparing Obama existence with some improbable voodoo? Obama is extant and an actuality, while the existence of a juju is a groundless rumour. Until I'm supplied with AK47 and RPG's then shoot at anyone who claim to be an odeshi and is immune from bullets, without him suffering serious injuries and dying in the process, that to me is also a joke. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:49pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
lepasharon: God seems to be powerless in that sector |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:51pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
ronald4lif:Why don't you try it? What's stopping you? Folykaze already call you all out some time ago |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by lepasharon(f): 3:53pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
macof:lool I dont think God likes amputees very much |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:54pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
SpeedyConnect:How does juju concern this matter? Is it ur God that makes juju? |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by ronald4lif(m): 3:56pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
macof:I don't know who he/she is neither do I know what you're talking about. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by Slimmos(m): 3:56pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
macof:Motigbo sir. U said it is a family heritage,then why were u named Mark? i know ur name is Mark, which is another christian or western name, which ought not to b so for he whose parent is an ifa worshipper. # confused. |
| Re: How Do I Tell People I Am An Atheist? Help! by macof(m): 3:57pm On Jun 14, 2015 |
freecocoa:people just keep exaggerating the whole juju thing for fun really |
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The fact I dint go to church , I know how some of them act, how will they act if I tell them i don't believe in God, in nigeria do people stigmatize atheists the way they stigmatize sickle cell oatients and HIV patients? 