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Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MizJanet(op): 2:12pm On Jun 14, 2015

sportsmaster:
I am very sure that its a TERMINAL DISEASE that will make you retrace ur steps back to the BISHOP OF YOUR SOUL.
MARK MY WORDS

"let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth " Ephesian 4:29 grin

" Prasing and CURSING Come out of the same mouth , my brothers this thing should not be this way " James 3:10 grin

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by CaptainJune: 2:20pm On Jun 14, 2015

MizJanet:
lol, full of mockery @ bold

Besides , are you not the guy telling someone to visit a brothel , practising xtian

I dont have your time .

Ouch! Lolzzz. ROFLMFAO grin

Seriously, you made my day and I can't stop laughing. grin

You had to soil your fingers just to evade a very simple question. shocked

Oh my, you love playing dirty, don't you? shocked

Lolzzz. I can just imagine how deep you had to dig to fetch that statement. You have the natural qualities of a coal miner or excavator or undertaker. Perhaps, you're one of them which attests to your skillful ability to dig up buried trivia... grin

Babe, I only asked a simple question. Why are you interested in the death of Jesus Christ when you never accept the fact He is alive? undecided

Don't tell me this thread is strictly meant for practicing Christians cos that will just be really cruel. angry

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MizJanet(op): 2:30pm On Jun 14, 2015

CaptainJune:
Ouch! Lolzzz. ROFLMFAO

Seriously, you made my day and I can't stop laughing.

You had to soil your fingers just to evade a very simple question.

Oh my, you love playing dirty, don't you?

Lolzzz. I can just imagine how deep you had to dig to fetch that statement. You have the natural qualities of a coal miner or excavator or undertaker. Perhaps, you're one of them which attests to your skillful ability to dig up buried trivia...

Clueless being

Babe, I only asked a simple question. Why are you interested in the death of Jesus Christ when you never accept the fact He is alive?

Don't tell me this thread is strictly meant for practicing Christians cos that will just be really cruel.

Pls Address the glaring contradictions shown by the op or you move out .

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by dalass(f): 2:49pm On Jun 14, 2015

Let me shed some light... Jesus Spirit died and went to paradise/ Abrahams bosom. On the 3rd day His Spirit came back into His body and after being seen by many for forty days. He then ascended to heaven with his body to his Father..

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MuttleyLaff: 2:56pm On Jun 14, 2015

MizJanet:
According to mainstream christianity , the spirit in man is the immaterial part of man which escapes the body at death . Most christians attend chuch services to save their spirit coz its d most important to them NOT this body of flesh which will rot away .

So thats why most of them says " humans are spirit that lives in a body" , pls re -read that statement again. You will discover that the real human is a spirit, while the body is just a shed . Hehehe

Ask me why i laugh , its because the christian Jesus came as a human, therefore he is a spirit that lives in a body. When did he go to heaven ?

He went to Heaven 40 days after resurrecting.
Mind you God the Son, Jesus, came in human form because that is the requirement for any being to LEGALLY live and operate on earth. (i.e. note Genesis 1:26)
Any persons or beings needs to be a human (i.e. needs to put on a flesh-carnal-human suit) to become legal, worst case an animal body like that of pigs, might be enough too. Nothing beats a human body embodied spirit as Mark 5:13 and Luke 8:33 attests to

MizJanet:
According to luke 23:46 , he says " father, into your hands i entrust MY SPIRIT", huh , hope you know the father lives in heaven.

Huh-huh, commending or entrusting you spirit doesnt mean ascending,
neither does it mean "I am ascending"
It, simply is a statement saying: "into your Hands I assign, allocate, reserve etc My spirit"

Like everyone else before Him, Jesus, first went to Sheol.
He even hinted this when He advised the thief on the right hand side of the cross with the reply "I assure you, today, you will be with me in paradise."
Mind you, paradise is the righteous side or good part of Sheol.

MizJanet:
That shows that the real spirit called Jesus went to the father in heaven the day he died .

But how come he still denied that he has not ascend to the Father? John 20:17, How come the bible still claim its 40 days after his resurection?

No, Jesus did not ascend heaven on the day He died.
No one goes to heaven on the day they die, and Jesus only and definitely ascended to heaven 40 days after His resurrection

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Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by dalass(f): 2:57pm On Jun 14, 2015

MizJanet:
"let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth " Ephesian 4:29

" Prasing and CURSING Come out of the same mouth , my brothers this thing should not be this way " James 3:10

@ op, MzJanet the bomb in the topic should be amended thus: Did Jesus GO to heaven the day he DIED......

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Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MuttleyLaff: 3:04pm On Jun 14, 2015

dalass:
@ op, MzJanet the bomb in the topic should be amended thus: Did Jesus GO to heaven the day he DIED......

It's just her being her. Saw them miles away but couldnt be fazed about them

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Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by CaptainJune: 3:11pm On Jun 14, 2015

MizJanet:
Clueless being

Pls Address the glaring contradictions shown by the op or you move out .

I don qualify, na God win grin

Is it too much to ask why you're so keen on knowing the events that transpired after the death of Jesus? huh

What is the biggie? Why can't you provide a rational and lucid explanation of this thread's creation as it relates to your personal conviction? Is it such a heavy task that you invent every possible strategy to avoid it?

Any answer, however accurate, addressed to your op is just a senseless object that tickles you, provokes your laughter. That is how insincere your op is and that is why it is folly to address it...that's, until you come out with the reason for your sudden interest in the death of a figment of man's imagination.

This is all sport to you, some exciting mental gymnastic of religious intonation, isn't it?

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Orunto: 3:15pm On Jun 14, 2015

Read the Bible very well again.

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by CaptainJune: 3:20pm On Jun 14, 2015

dalass:
Let me shed some light... Jesus Spirit died and went to paradise/ Abrahams bosom. On the 3rd day His Spirit came back into His body and after being seen by many for forty days. He then ascended to heaven with his body to his Father..

This should suffice. Alas, she's not the type who reads to be wise.

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Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MizJanet(op): 4:00pm On Jun 14, 2015

MuttleyLaff:
He went to Heaven 40 days after resurrecting.
Mind you God the Son, Jesus, came in human form because that is the requirement for any being to LEGALLY live and operate on earth. (i.e. note Genesis 1:26)

Any persons or beings needs to be a human (i.e. needs to put on a flesh-carnal-human suit) to become legal, worst case an animal body like that of pigs, might be enough too. Nothing beats a human body embodied spirit as Mark 5:13 and Luke 8:33 attests to

@bold , if Jesus just puts on a human suit , that shows the real person of Jesus never died but only the flesh/suit he put on died .

Thats a perpetual hole in xristianity.

Huh-huh, commending or entrusting you spirit doesnt mean ascending,
Neither does it mean "I am ascending"
It, simply is a statement saying: "into your Hands I assign, allocate, reserve etc My spirit"

And so ? @ bold , when you assign , allocate or reserve your money in the bank, then the money stays in the bank .

He reserves his spirit into the hand of his father in heaven , this is very clear . It is reserved in heaven ..... So why is your religious book saying it was 40 days after despite the bright statement written in Luke 23:46 of your book? Is that not a contraditon ?

Like everyone else before Him, Jesus, first went to Sheol.
He even hinted this when He advised the thief on the right hand side of the cross with the reply "I assure you, today, you will be with me in paradise."
Mind you, paradise is the righteous side or good part of Sheol.

Paradise is what ? Show me the bold from your holy book ?

No, Jesus did not ascend heaven on the day He died.
No one goes to heaven on the day they die, and Jesus only and definitely ascended to heaven 40 days after His resurrection

I like the bolded statement , it expose another myth cheesy

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MizJanet(op): 4:14pm On Jun 14, 2015

dalass:
Let me shed some light... Jesus Spirit died

, hehehe spirit DIED . Nice one , i know your fellows must be kidding when they said spirit cant die

And went to paradise/ Abrahams bosom.

Can u show me the bolded statement from your religious book, the part that says Jesus went to paradise/abraham bossom ?

On the 3rd day His Spirit came back into His body and after being seen by many for forty days. He then ascended to heaven with his body to his Father..

@bold , wow jesus go to heaven with his human body .. A body of flesh, kidney , liver , pancreas etc and BLOOD , I thought your holy book says flesh and blood cant inherit heaven . Just another contradiction grin

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MuttleyLaff: 5:10pm On Jun 14, 2015

MizJanet:
@bold , if Jesus just puts on a human suit, that shows the real person of Jesus never died but only the flesh/suit he put on died

Thats a perpetual hole in xristianity.

Madam, please, go easy and tread softly softly. You're trying to bite more than you can chew

MizJanet:
And so? @ bold, when you assign, allocate or reserve your money in the bank, then the money stays in the bank

Ma, without trying to be patronising, this is simple or elementary English now.

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last - Luke 23:46

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands, I pledge, I commend, I assign, I allocate, I reserve my Spirit and Then He drew His last breath and died

This has nothing to do with "money staying in the bank" but surrendering, as in giving up or handing over His spirit to God the Father

MizJanet:
He reserves his spirit into the hand of his father in heaven, this is very clear.

Glad it is VERY clear

MizJanet:
It is reserved in heaven ..... So why is your religious book saying it was 40 days after despite the bright statement written in Luke 23:46 of your book? Is that not a contraditon?

Simple, unless you want to making a mountain out of a molehill.
When a pledger, pledges money it doesnt mean the money pledged is already or really in the hands of the pledgee yet.
The spirit was pledges 40 days earlier, the Pledgee got the spirit 40 days after resurrection (i.e. 40 days after the pledge was made)

MizJanet:
Paradise is what?

Drop down three verse from your favourite Luke 23:46 quote to Luke 23:43 to get an idea

MizJanet:
Show me the bold from your holy book?

2 Corinthians 12:3, Revelation 2:7 and Luke 16:19-31

MizJanet:
I like the bolded statement, it expose another myth

In your mind it does, more like a fool's paradise than anything else.
Thinking it exposes another myth is living in a fool's paradise. wink

Sorry for taking advantage of using the fool's paradise pun there. Couldnt resist not to, was there for the taking

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MizJanet(op): 5:29pm On Jun 14, 2015

MuttleyLaff:
Madam, please, go easy and tread softly softly. You're trying to bite more than you can chew

Ma, without trying to be patronising, this is simple or elementary English now.

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last - Luke 23:46

Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands, I pledge, I commend, I assign, I allocate, I reserve my Spirit and Then He drew His last breath and died

This has nothing to do with "money staying in the bank" but surrendering, as in giving up or handing over His spirit to God the Father

To hand over means to pass responsibilty to someone else isnt it ? The bold showed his spirit has been hand over to his father the very day he died .

When a pledger, pledges money it doesnt mean the money pledged is already or really in the hands of the pledgee yet

Not in dis case , " father, into your HANDS"

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MuttleyLaff: 5:46pm On Jun 14, 2015

MizJanet:
To hand over means to pass responsibilty to someone else isnt it?

The bold showed his spirit has been hand over to his father the very day he died.

Remember He first said, He was handing over His spirit before He drew His last breath and then died BUT you are weasely trying to put it like He got to heaven on the day He died.

MizJanet:
Not in dis case, " father, into your HANDS"

How do you want Him to pledge?
Father into or unto your feet? No offence intended.
He pledged His spirit for the Father to receive with His Hands, isnt that so?

You keep twisting every word put across
Very soon or later, you'll at some point latch on hands, and come back saying God has literal hands

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by dalass(f): 6:12pm On Jun 14, 2015

CaptainJune:
This should suffice. Alas, she's not the type who reads to be wise.

Yeah! Ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth!

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Nobody: 2:29am On Jun 15, 2015*

MizJanet:
"let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth " Ephesian 4:29

" Prasing and CURSING Come out of the same mouth , my brothers this thing should not be this way " James 3:10

I aint cursing,i am talking from experience, Quite a number of athiests became Christians because of the healing power of God..

And besides your posts,speech,statements on this forum will affect the consciousnesss of weak and/or baby christians,it will even affect the receptiveness and spread of the Gospel and personally there is nothing more that i would hate.

Lemme show you an example
Acts 13:8:-But Elymas the sorcerer(for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith

9Then Paul,filled with the Holy Ghost set his eyes on him,

10And said "O full of all subtlety and all mischiest,thou child of the devil,thou enemy of all righteousness, will thou not cease to pervery the right ways of the Lord? ,

11And now,behold, the hand of the The Lord is upon theee and thou shalt be blind,not seeing the sun for a season And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness:and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand".

Better watch your tongue and not let ACts13:8-11 or something deadlier repeat itself

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by MizJanet(op): 12:28pm On Jun 15, 2015

y'all are confused

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by CAPTIVATOR: 1:22pm On Jun 15, 2015

MizJanet:
y'all are confused

Hello miss ... Honestly speaking u made sense from your observation at op but the truth is this :

At luke 23:46 , Jesus commend is spirit or breath into the fathers hand , this doesnt mean he was in heaven that day simply because the spirit in man and animals is the breath of life withing them ( Gen 2:7 , Job 32:8 ) . Thats the point

But Jesus himself is dead and was buried in the grave , where he spent three days ( matt 12:40) but on the thrid day , he was resurected , yes is breath of life was restored , and he once again became a LIVING BEING.

The misconception at op arise from the wrong notion that the spirit in man and animals is an immaetrial entity hangin on the walls of their body . Thats very wrong .

The creation of man says the ' ruach /breath or spirit/ of life was breathed into Adams Nostrils! Nostrils ' NOT fused inside his body . Genesis 2:7

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by dolphinheart(m): 4:06pm On Jun 15, 2015

The problem that some had with the op is that they are trying to cover one low with another or several others, the op (though not understanding the first lie) knows that it is a lie that only futher lies will help cover up.

The first lie is that man is a spirit being housed in a body. This lie can only be supported by other lies which will require the bible being turned up side down .

These first lie was created to accomodate another first lie in another section that requires man to be consious at death so that the belief in hell fire can be accomodated.

The bible does not support this lies, and there is no direct statement in the bible to support these lies. With no direct support, a misunderstanding/ mis explaining of the scriptures had to be adopted.

Do we have individual spirits?
No, the bible even says the spirit in animals(another living soul) is the same as that of man.

Are we spirits in flesh?
No, the bible says man is flesh.
God called man "flesh"
In the creation of adam , adam was said exist before the breathe of life came to be blown into his nostrils.

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Peacefullove: 9:02pm On Aug 30, 2018

malvisguy212:
you ask a question and your canal mind cannot understand the truth when it was presented to you.

ALL what you wrote up there is wrong, seriously wrong!!!

You say this;
According to luke 23:46 , he says " father, into your hands i entrust MY SPIRIT" , huh , hope you know the father lives in heaven . That shows that the real spirit called Jesus went to the father in heaven the day he died .

This was Jesus prayer on the cross when dying And you assume God the father answer this prayer of Jesus? (a dying man on the cross) wrong, infacte God forsake Him on the cross,why? Because his spirit is not pure, He carry the sins of the world,
Isaiah 53:4-5
4
Surely he took up our pain
and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
5
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace
was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.

Verse four say WE considered him PUNISHED by God, the points is this, Jesus die on the cross for our sin and the bible make it clear that God cannot beholds sin ,so that prayer was rejected
Infacte when Jesus say "my God why has thou forsake me" this prayer prove my point.

Jesus did not deny ascended to the father, the reason he did not want Mary to touch him is because Jesus has already crucified the sins of the world and if Mary touch him will stain the PURITY of Jesus, infacte Mary could be killed because a sinner cannot come near the holy of holies.

So he was lying that he hasn't ascended to his Father ?

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Peacefullove: 9:04pm On Aug 30, 2018

Primesky lol come and see your partners in Lying affair

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Peacefullove: 9:23pm On Aug 30, 2018

dalass:
Yeah! Ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth!

You who have knowledge, have you answered?

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Peacefullove: 9:28pm On Aug 30, 2018

dalass:
Let me shed some light... Jesus Spirit died and went to paradise/ Abrahams bosom.

Keep the lies coming

Smh, according to Luke, his spirit return to his Father . Heaven !

On the 3rd day His Spirit came back into His body

From where ?

Same spirit that has died ? grin

and after being seen by many for forty days. He then ascended to heaven with his body to his Father..

This lacks credence until you reconcile with Luke .

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by dalass(f): 10:53pm On Aug 30, 2018

Peacefullove:
You who have knowledge, have you answered?

Them send you to me huh

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by dalass(f): 10:56pm On Aug 30, 2018

Peacefullove:
Keep the lies coming

Smh, according to Luke, his spirit return to his Father . Heaven !

From where ?

Same spirit that has died ?
Jesus himself told that thief that that day, he would be with him in paradise.... Can you relate?

This lacks credence until you reconcile with Luke .

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Primesky(m): 8:08pm On Sep 01, 2018

Peacefullove:
Primesky lol come and see your partners in Lying affair

Repent and receive the real Jesus now. Stop believing in a lie and deceiving others as well.

Jesus Christ died for you on a CROSS, rose again bodily for you on the third day.

Stop believing in lies. For you people to say that Jesus Christ is here on earth since 1914, makes it clear you talking about false jesus, no wonder your while attack is against the person of Jesus Christ. Only the spirit of anti Christ can do this. Repent and come out from among them now.

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Kobojunkie: 7:28pm On Feb 15, 2024

MizJanet:
∆So thats why most of them says " humans are spirit that lives in a body" , pls re -read that statement again . You will discover that the real human is a spirit, while the body is just a shed . Hehehe
∆ Ask me why i laugh , its because the christian Jesus came as a human , therefore he is a spirit that lives in a body . When did he go to heaven ? According to luke 23:46 , he says " father, into your hands i entrust MY SPIRIT" , huh , hope you know the father lives in heaven . That shows that the real spirit called Jesus went to the father in heaven the day he died .
∆ But how come he still denied that he has not ascend to the Father ? John 20:17 , How come the bible still claim its 40 days after his resurection ?

1. Scripture instead says that Humans are not born spirits but physical bodies(of the clay of this earth) animated by the breath of God - Genesis 2 vs 6-7. Jesus Christ said the only way for a human to acquire a spirit of its own while in this life is by becoming born-again - John 3 vs 5-8. So, yes the Christian idea is wrong and so also is yours. undecided

2. Entrusting His Spirit into the hands of His Father, in whose hands, all those who are of the world are equally in, does not mean Jesus Christ went to Heaven in those 3 days which He told His followers He would be in the grave. What He said in John 20 vs 17 aligns with what He had told His followers on at least previous occasions

Re: Did Jesus Went To Heaven The Day He Died Or 40 Days After ? by Kobojunkie: 7:30pm On Feb 15, 2024

MizJanet:
∆ So thats why most of them says " humans are spirit that lives in a body" , pls re -read that statement again . You will discover that the real human is a spirit, while the body is just a shed . Hehehe
∆ Ask me why i laugh , its because the christian Jesus came as a human , therefore he is a spirit that lives in a body . When did he go to heaven ? According to luke 23:46 , he says " father, into your hands i entrust MY SPIRIT" , huh , hope you know the father lives in heaven . That shows that the real spirit called Jesus went to the father in heaven the day he died .
∆ But how come he still denied that he has not ascend to the Father ? John 20:17 , How come the bible still claim its 40 days after his resurection ?

No body goes straight to Heaven or Hell immediately after death. In fact, according to Jesus Christ, the one who is King in the Kingdom of God, everyone of His followers will sleep in their graves until after His return. undecided

3. Huh?

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