SirShymexx:


STFU - no one asked you to talk.

Better go ask ya leaders in Igboland to develop that cesspit and stop sending forced economic migrants to snarl-up the SW. Fix ya region!

Yes sir

But igbo are not claiming the biggest economy ..anambra is doing their thing quietly so is rochas but I think the best form of sophistication lies in other part of simplicity

But I admire your post and I won't curse

Jealous about paper GDP? Lol

OkutaNla:


LOL. Na jealousy go kill you. Even that Fufu wey you show so, the amount of money wey the export of am dey generate dey add more to Naija GDP pass all your SE region combined. Ode.

mandarin:
Igbos are the greatest beneficiary of Nigeria as they are traders especially the Anambra folks.Howbeit the wrongs that can be alluded to contravening economic growth within their ranks, they are traders making money through :
1. Imports from abroad that kills Nigerian industries, more so imports of items that kills Nigerians like expired and rebranded drugs, and so on. Well its not limited to any ethnic group but what can people do to get money.
2. Nigerian spirit, the Igbo are very energetic and pursue their goals with unwavering synergy, I love that.
3. They make more money selling outside the southeast and outside Nigeria, they are distributors of goods and so their prosperities depend on Nigeria more than others.
ARE THE YORUBA ACTUALLY LAZY
I don't agree as Yoruba has their areas of dominance even in trading. They are much in hands and crafts as craftsmen, they dominate that area in the north, they dominate some trading sectors and are competing with the Igbo in importation. The largest indigenous industries in Nigeria are owned by them and they are the best administrators and business strategists therein in Nigeria.
EVERY ETHNIC GROUP HAS ITS OWN VALUES
Many people feel money is the ultimate thing. In rich and much more advanced countries, suicide rates are more than poor countries because as much as you place premium on money, you are reduced to nothing. As good as money and great wealth can represent comfort et al, it can become an inhibitor to discovering a life of peace that is why money rituals, drug pushing, imports of contrabands etc cannot guarantee sustainable wealth and joy. Traders who support their job with rituals and so on only add sorrow to their struggles.
In Nigeria of today, I admire the Yoruba though you can call them lazy or whatever they are the only ethnic group(not excepting others) that build institutions based on different levels of values.
To them there is a place for hard work, integrity, and wealth. They have economic, cultural and religious institutions that are distinct. Religion and culture are separate, spirituality is important, and culture is admirable.They have a more complete society.
They are builders, they have religious organizations, social organizations, etc that can compete in the world in their little ways. Every complete society must have the wealthy, the rich, the average and the poor, that is what you see. It must have history which is why you see those rust roofs and must have a future which is why parents forms bedrocks for their folks.
People, no one is better than the other but time and chance happen to them all

Nice

CaptainOjemba:
Imagine attributing the success of the Igbos and other nigerians in lagos to yolobas

Don't mind dem, Yoruba pipo love to lie n mislead people.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:
I beg to defer and can say with every certainty that this analysis has no basis hence null and void.

It may interest you to note that I said the same when Aregbesola came up with premature analysis on how Osun State don't need Federal Allocation to pay salaries.

Don't forget my analysis on the thread where Osun State 2015 year budget was dissected and I described it a complete failure before it was even signed into law

I also disputed as academic exercise most Southwest fictitious annual budgets made on illegal assumption of revenues that can only attain 40% execution with exemption of Lagos State.

I am not disputing the position of Southwest GDP in Nigeria rather the figure attached to it is false and an aggregate of assumptions and lies made on papers when compared to certainty on ground.

Can you imagine every Southwest with exception of Ondo State churning out Budgets they know are unrealistic and unattainable every year just to showcase superiority on papers?

Your analysis and the fact that some states in the SW are having budgetary difficulties has no bearing per the OP's conclusion about the SW. The GDP is what it is and it plays no part when it comes to budgets, states don't spend GDP, they spend taxes and allocations in Nigeria at least.

United State's GDP is the largest in the world, but the same US is trillions of dollars in debt and they even finance their yearly budgets with deficits.

So, the fact that the US bares the largest debt in the world and they finance their budgets with deficits doesn't mean the US is not the largest economy in the world.

It's really not too hard to differentiate between apples and oranges..

Now to GDP itself...


1. The SW is Nigeria's industrial hub and nearly all the factories and industries responsible for our industrial and manufacturing output

2. Goods and services and financial services are located in the SW.

3. The SW is the largest entertainment hub in Africa

4. The SW hosts nearly all the corporate and multinational HQ in Nigeria

5. The SW is the Economic trading center for the whole of West Africa

6. 60 per cent of non-oil exports from Nigeria consisted of cocoa and rubber and last time I checked, both are sourced in the SW and cocoa remains the second largest foreign exchange earner.

7. The SW hosts of millions of economic migrants from other states for 1 simple reason which is the economic attraction and availability of opportunities to survive and make it financially and if such opportunities doesn't exist in the SW, Nigerians won't migrate to the SW. It's simple economics and laws of supply and demand.



It's ok to dispute other people's facts and assertions, but you must do it intelligently with credible facts and broad knowledge about your own country's economic realities...

aresa:




Your analysis and the fact that some states in the SW are having budgetary difficulties has no bearing per the OP's conclusion about the SW. The GDP is what it is and it plays no part when it comes to budgets, states don't spend GDP, they spend taxes and allocations in Nigeria at least.

United State's GDP is the largest in the world, but the same US is trillions of dollars in debt and they even finance their yearly budgets with deficits.

So, the fact that the US bares the largest debt in the world and they finance their budgets with deficits doesn't mean the US is not the largest economy in the world.

It's really not too hard to differentiate between apples and oranges..

Now to GDP itself...


1. The SW is Nigeria's industrial hub and nearly all the factories and industries responsible for our industrial and manufacturing output

2. Goods and services and financial services are located in the SW.

3. The SW is the largest entertainment hub in Africa

4. The SW hosts nearly all the corporate and multinational HQ in Nigeria

5. The SW is the Economic trading center for the whole of West Africa

6. 60 per cent of non-oil exports from Nigeria consisted of cocoa and rubber and last time I checked, both are sourced in the SW and cocoa remains the second largest foreign exchange earner.

7. The SW hosts of millions of economic migrants from other states for 1 simple reason which is the economic attraction and availability of opportunities to survive and make it financially and if such opportunities doesn't exist in the SW, Nigerians won't migrate to the SW. It's simple economics and laws of supply and demand.



It's ok to dispute other people's facts and assertions, but you must do it intelligently with credible facts and broad knowledge about your own country's economic realities...

When these paper things are peddled and hawked in name of GDP I laugh ...I am in Lagos and being around most of the south west region but what I don't know is it the ore or okitipupa or ife or oshogbo or ilesan pls if I may ask which of the south west are we talking about ? Is it the one in Nigeria or the one in Luxembourg

tonychristopher:


When these paper things are peddled and hawked in name of GDP I laugh ...I am in Lagos and being around most of the south west region but what I don't know is it the ore or okitipupa or ife or oshogbo or ilesan pls if I may ask which of the south west are we talking about ? Is it the one in Nigeria or the one in Luxembourg

Dispute any of the points I highlighted with your own documented facts or peddle your meaningless and pedestrian rant elsewhere..

I debate facts and not unintelligent assertions.

aresa:


Dispute any of the points I highlighted with your own documented facts or peddle your meaningless and pedestrian rant elsewhere..

I debate facts and not unintelligent assertions.

Oga I am in south west and I am seeing a different thing in those places I mentioned and I am not in any position to argue pls

tonychristopher:



Oga I am in south west and I am seeing a different thing in those places I mentioned and I am not in any position to argue pls

Then I put it is you that whatever it is you are "seeing", yiboman, does not represent the reality on ground. The approximately 1billion dollars that was generated from Cocoa exports last year alone has been captured by the FG, even though you are "seeing different thing in those places"

aresa:




Your analysis and the fact that some states in the SW are having budgetary difficulties has no bearing per the OP's conclusion about the SW. The GDP is what it is and it plays no part when it comes to budgets, states don't spend GDP, they spend taxes and allocations in Nigeria at least.

United State's GDP is the largest in the world, but the same US is trillions of dollars in debt and they even finance their yearly budgets with deficits.

So, the fact that the US bares the largest debt in the world and they finance their budgets with deficits doesn't mean the US is not the largest economy in the world.

It's really not too hard to differentiate between apples and oranges..

Now to GDP itself...


1. The SW is Nigeria's industrial hub and nearly all the factories and industries responsible for our industrial and manufacturing output

2. Goods and services and financial services are located in the SW.

3. The SW is the largest entertainment hub in Africa

4. The SW hosts nearly all the corporate and multinational HQ in Nigeria

5. The SW is the Economic trading center for the whole of West Africa

6. 60 per cent of non-oil exports from Nigeria consisted of cocoa and rubber and last time I checked, both are sourced in the SW and cocoa remains the second largest foreign exchange earner.

7. The SW hosts of millions of economic migrants from other states for 1 simple reason which is the economic attraction and availability of opportunities to survive and make it financially and if such opportunities doesn't exist in the SW, Nigerians won't migrate to the SW. It's simple economics and laws of supply and demand.



It's ok to dispute other people's facts and assertions, but you must do it intelligently with credible facts and broad knowledge about your own country's economic realities...

It would've done you good if you considered my summary.

Southwest GDP can't be more that 50% of Nigeria's GDP as attributed to it from the article - Fact.

There is no way one can evaluate it to get such a fallacious inference.

Moreover, how does housing headquarters of multinationals translate to high GDP when the derivatives for State are only property tax from few buildings and income taxes of few administrative staff working there.

tonychristopher:



Oga I am in south west and I am seeing a different thing in those places I mentioned and I am not in any position to argue pls

tonychristopher:



Igbo will not go back they will choke you till you help them actualize Biafra till them live with them

There seems to be nothing you can do about it rather than rant online

tonychristopher:
Baba one chance ..gworo chewing man and kunu suckling man is confused

The above quotes means I shouldn't be having any conversation with you and your kind since only bigotry and hate shapes your mentality and utterances...

This doesn't make sense, we should not engage in any empty bragging, there is a potential somewhere(maybe) but realities on ground says nothing good about us there are only pockets of developments here and there, not good enough but above all in truth we are all in this together Yoruba or Igbo both regions are horrible as against their potentials, we all should work together to become great and fulfil our true potentials.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:



It would've done you good if you considered my summary.

I ignored your summary simply because it had nothing to do with GDP and what the OP asserted, you basically spewed your own personal opinion about budgets.

Budgets and GDPs are 2 different things.

Southwest GDP can't be more that 50% of Nigeria's GDP as attributed to it from the article - Fact.

What fact exactly? Yours or documented facts.

There is no way one can evaluate it to get such a fallacious inference.

One can not evaluate, but you still managed to evaluate an arrived at your own facts anyways?

You are not making any sense..

Moreover, how does housing headquarters of multinationals translate to high GDP when the derivatives for State are only property tax from few buildings and income taxes of few administrative staff working there.

I listed almost 7 critical facts responsible for SWs large economic strength and all you are able to grasp and comprehend was HQ.

Well, common sense should tell you that HQ siting is never directly about taxes but more about a lot of factors from economic activities to safety and security, infrastructures, access to skilled manpower, conducive business environment and active government support, arts and culture, food and entertainment which is a reflection of strong and thriving economy..


I laid down several economic pointers there so please don't bother me with any reply if you have nothing sensible and rational to dispute any of them with.

Rilwayne001:


Biafrans?

Biafrauds...

BuddahMonk:


Oshogbo Toad, big economy does not translate to high standard of living.
Nigeria economy is bigger than those of UAE, Qatar, Seychelles, Mauritius and Kuwait etc but how are the citizens faring.

The number of beggars in Ibadan alone exceed the number of beggars in the entire Eastern Region combine.

Come to VI and Ikoyi and see your people doing corporate beggars.

Udmaster:
NONSENSE! why is the level of poverty and beggers so high in the south west?.
The Blessed South East have the highest number of middle class families and is the least poor region in Nigeria in the poverty survey by the Nigeria Bureau of Statistics.
btw Igbos are the biggest users of Apapa seaport and pay up to 60% of Lagos tax.. Without Igbos, Lagos IGR will drop..

If the rate of poverty is not on high trend in your region, why do you have highest rate of daily influx/migration to lagos. For your information, beggars will always be found most in a place where they have assurance that people will give them better alms.

Get the fact!

carnegiefan:
So why are you people attacking secessionists as if they will be leaving with something you cannot survive without?
This "news" here can only mean either (1) that your so called GDP is basically stolen from elsewhere, or (2) that the figure is a figment of your illusions.
How I wish these figures are true and totally self-sustaining, and that you support Biafra secession, that way you can even develop further.
Good luck with your self deceit.

Get out of my head!

aresa:


I ignored your summary simply because it had nothing to do with GDP and what the OP asserted, you basically spewed your own personal opinion about budgets.

Budgets and GDPs are 2 different things.









What fact exactly? Yours or documented facts.





One can not evaluate, but you still managed to evaluate an arrived at your own facts anyways?

You are not making any sense..




I listed almost 7 critical facts responsible for SWs large economic strength and all you are able to grasp and comprehend was HQ.

Well, common sense should tell you that HQ siting is never directly about taxes but more about a lot of factors from economic activities to safety and security, infrastructures, access to skilled manpower, conducive business environment and active government support, arts and culture, food and entertainment which is a reflection of strong and thriving economy..


I laid down several economic pointers there so please don't bother me with any reply if you have nothing sensible and rational to dispute any of them with.

Bros, I am very vast in application of economic projections and the undue favourability it creates in relation to anticipatory advantage in futuristic socio-economic and political grandstanding.

The Southwest has mastered the act of churning out favourable fictitious data and analysis meant to position the region at advantage in terms of Foreign direct investments in Nigeria.

The truth is that these information were never challenged during the dark days of record keeping in Nigeria.

It may interest you to note that these forgery and lies have led to citing most industrial complexes in Southwest when the intended marketplaces were actually Eastern Nigeria.

Having understood this economic war in five multinationals I worked, it is time to question every politically motivated article written to perpetuate these lies.

These same lies were responsible for citing or relocation of many multinational headquarters to Southwest.

These lies are about projecting Southwest as the most conducive environment for businesses in Nigeria and it got to stop.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:



Bros, I am very vast in application of economic projections and the undue favourability it creates in relation to anticipatory advantage in futuristic socio-economic and political grandstanding.

The Southwest has mastered the act of churning out favourable fictitious data and analysis meant to position the region at advantage in terms of Foreign direct investments in Nigeria.

The truth is that these information were never challenged during the dark days of record keeping in Nigeria.

It may interest you to note that these forgery and lies have led to citing most industrial complexes in Southwest when the intended marketplaces were actually Eastern Nigeria.

Having understood this economic war in five multinationals I worked, it is time to question every politically motivated article written to perpetuate these lies.

These same lies were responsible for citing or relocation of many multinational headquarters to Southwest.

These lies are about projecting Southwest as the most conducive environment for businesses in Nigeria and it got to stop.

LOL. Tell that to the investors who talk with their money by preferring to invest them in the SW instead of your SE Common, give those investors a little credit naw, they all do their due diligence before eventually deciding on where and how they choose to spend their venture capital. They know which region will benefit them better and more between the two. That's the bottom line and it's that simple.

IsraeliAIRFORCE:



Bros, I am very vast in application of economic projections and the undue favourability it creates in relation to anticipatory advantage in futuristic socio-economic and political grandstanding.

The Southwest has mastered the act of churning out favourable fictitious data and analysis meant to position the region at advantage in terms of Foreign direct investments in Nigeria.

The truth is that these information were never challenged during the dark days of record keeping in Nigeria.

Basically your opinion and I don't debate opinions...

It may interest you to note that these forgery and lies have led to citing most industrial complexes in Southwest when the intended marketplaces were actually Eastern Nigeria.

The Industries responsible for Nigeria's industrial activities from the beginning till today was any kind of forgery and there were not built by the Nigerian government. They were built before Nigeria as a country/before 1960.

The government of the old western region led by Awolowo built all the industrial estates from Ikeja industrial to Matori, Apapa, Mushin, Ilupeju, Oluyole in Ibadan and also Oodua group of companies.

Agian, try educate yourself about your own country's history before commenting on anything.

Having understood this economic war in five multinationals I worked, it is time to question every politically motivated article written to perpetuate these lies.

This is basically your own personal opinion and delusions with little or nothing to do with realities on the ground.

These same lies were responsible for citing or relocation of many multinational headquarters to Southwest.

Give us a single economic reason why Multinationals should site their HQs in any of your villages?

Try elevate your reasoning above tribal and layman sentiments..

These lies are about projecting Southwest as the most conducive environment for businesses in Nigeria and it got to stop.

You are entitled to even your own warped opinion of course...

aresa:










The above quotes means I shouldn't be having any conversation with you and your kind since only bigotry and hate shapes your mentality and utterances...

What is bigotry about opposition or what is bigotry about when statistics are churned out and its absolutely different from what is on ground

If you define them as bigotry so be it...to me buhari is not the best man for the job due to age and inability to present simple WAEC and to me its reality and to you is bigotry

Now when you say a region is paved with gold and I say I am on ground what is it..sweeping facts under carpets and present non tribalistic postulation so that all will seem well

My dear truth hurt ..stats hurts sometimes ..we should be realistic so be it

BUHARI AINT THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB BRO..TAKE IT TO THE BANKS

tonychristopher:


What is bigotry about opposition or what is bigotry about when statistics are churned out and its absolutely different from what is on ground

If you define them as bigotry so be it...to me buhari is not the best man for the job due to age and inability to present simple WAEC and to me its reality and to you is bigotry

Now when you say a region is paved with gold and I say I am on ground what is it..sweeping facts under carpets and present non tribalistic postulation so that all will seem well

My dear truth hurt ..stats hurts sometimes ..we should be realistic so be it

BUHARI AINT THE BEST MAN FOR THE JOB BRO..TAKE IT TO THE BANKS

I shouldn't be having any conversation with you and your kind since only bigotry and hate shapes your mentality and utterances...

^^^^^^

In case you missed my initial response...

aresa:










^^^^^^

In case you missed my initial response...

But you initiated it...

CSTR2:
Even the so-called big economy is powered by the FG built lagos port which is ran by Nigerians from other part of the country.
We all know the SW as a region is not that entrepreneural to drive such an economy.
The likes of osun, ekiti, oyo , ondo is a testament to the naturally laid back nature of the SW as a people.

and who stop you from building your own port when your brother was in power

jaysniggs:
This is not surprising, but one thing is surprising.
The surprising thing is how the region has been churning out leaders with low leadership skills, inability of them to think and make things right!
No one expected that the standards of the South West could drop sharply, but it did all because of "Bad Leadership".

Federal allocation has made them all lazy, they don't wanna work and they don't wanna think.
We now have a set of pot bellied morons with stupid reading glasses to represent us but in the real sense of it the gluttons represent themselves and families.

Why not go back to Cocoa production?
With the amount of land we have here in the South West, we can generate so much income from selling cocoa locally and exporting it.

Imagine a region with the highest concentration of humans, think about what we can do if that population is channelled into grandscale labour?

But no, its just unfortunate.
I wish I can have a one on one chat with Governor Ajimobi, Aregbesola, Fayose.

Attend meeting at oke Bọla or simply write your proposal and mail to him

Udmaster:
NONSENSE! why is the level of poverty and beggers so high in the south west?.
The Blessed South East have the highest number of middle class families and is the least poor region in Nigeria in the poverty survey by the Nigeria Bureau of Statistics.
btw Igbos are the biggest users of Apapa seaport and pay up to 60% of Lagos tax.. Without Igbos, Lagos IGR will drop..

Without the port you would have nowhere to make money to even pay any tax

carnegiefan:


Which is why they hate Biafra with a passion.
It is called self preservation, the oldest human instinct. I understand that, but they should just stop lying.
Fraud and lies are the twin brothers that will disintegrate Nigeria.

No they hate biaFra with a passion cos you foolishly try to fill all ministries with your people regardless of federal character as if you're the only ones around and the others came to sell groundnut.very unintelligent

liberty300:
Remove Lagos from that equation and let's see how the "south west" fairs

Remove niger delta and see hunger

Udmaster:
NONSENSE! why is the level of poverty and beggers so high in the south west?.
The Blessed South East have the highest number of middle class families and is the least poor region in Nigeria in the poverty survey by the Nigeria Bureau of Statistics.
btw Igbos are the biggest users of Apapa seaport and pay up to 60% of Lagos tax.. Without Igbos, Lagos IGR will drop..

d south west ave d lowest poverty rate in niqeria..dnt say wot u dnt no http://www.naij.com/401470-see-the-10-poorest-states-in-nigeria.html

This is just a sham. Are any towns in Southwest Nigeria modern or considered world class? Nope. None in the East or even the North. SO this "feel good thread' is just an illusion of what could have been

Local Clays In Southwestern Nigeria

The effect of clay mineral properties are considered in terms of the plastic properties of soils, including liquid and plastic limits and plasticity index. The values are obtained from a series of tests that delineate the transition between states of consistency.

Liquid Limit

Liquid limit is the minimum amount of water which is needed to be mixed with sediments so that it can flow.

Plastic Limit

Plastic limit is the minimum amount of water needed to be mixed with a sediment so that it can retain its shape when the stress placed on it has been removed.

Plasticity Index

Plasticity index is the difference in value between the states of consistency. It is the percentage value that depicts how moldable a material can be.



Shrinkage
Shrinkage is an essential property because ceramic materials experience shrinkage at two different levels in the manufacturing sequence. During drying, the article will shrink in varying amounts depending on the compositions and percentage of water present. Drying shrinkage is the reduction in size, measured either in length or volume that takes place when the clay piece is dried to remove the pore and absorbed water. The drying shrinkage depends on the water content, the type of clay minerals present, and the number of very fine colloidal material in the clay.
The drying shrinkage is expressed in percent reduction in size after drying. In the laboratory, the measurement is made on a test bar after drying for a minimal period of 5 hours at 1050 The drying shrinkage is related to the water of plasticity. It increases as the water of plasticity and particle size increases (Murray, 2007).
Firing shrinkage is also measured in terms of linear dimensions or volume. Linear and volume shrinkage can both be measured, although linear shrinkage and water absorption generally decreases, the modulus of rupture (MOR) and fired whiteness generally increase as the particle size increases (Adkin, 2000).

http://www.prestarticles.com/effects-blending-refractory-properties-selected-local-clays-southwestern-nigeria/