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Patchesagain:
Lol - when I say America i dont mean their domestic issues, I mean quantitative easing... get on my level

Stable growth is just fine and acceptable when you are a NIC... only developing countries can acheive double digit growth

Eskom issues are a hinderance on the economy no doubt about it. We are still the biggest power generator and consumer on the continent though

Namibia and Mozambique have been exporting power to you now. South Africa has borrowed over 85 billion rand to solve eskom woes but things are still falling apart.

If your GDP is a paltry 341 billion dollars and you claim to be an NIC, then south Africa is doomed. Your interrupted education would have been OK if you had run off to play rugby .

If you will only have stable growth like industrialized countries and you are still having a small GDP then south Africa is born to be very insignificant country. Brazil is the six world's biggest economy, China is 2nd Russia is 9th, India is 8th or so. These countries are all in the trillion dollar mark and are still outgrowing you.

You are a laughing 347 GDP and is bragging about growing growinf at the rate of NIC.

Patches, patches, how stupiid art thou.
South Africa is a textbook example of a 3rd world country.

agaugust:
[s]Yes SAAF will pay bribe again to get rights host another international tournament, Gripen world cup.

You show us why SAAF failed to show up in 2015 Lion Effort.

Europeans have standards, Sweden, Czech, Hungary, will not fly combat drills with unqualified pilots form South African airforce, because your poor pilot skills can cause mid air collision ! Europeans don't want you to murder them at Lion Effort with your unqualified SAAF pilots that fly only about 10% of normal standard hour a year !

Mandela has no air force o ![/s]
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A new level of delusion has been reached

Patchesagain:
Nigeria has no AWACS

NAF ATR-42 Surveyor Gabbiano radar in air to air mode tracking 200 airborne flying targets 407 km away = AWACS
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agaugust:
[s]A lot of South Africa's positive data published worldwide are false figures and fake statistics.

Reality on ground in your country always looks different, your nation tells a lot of lies[/s]
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South Africa produces 100X more power than Nigeria

agaugust:
Too many data lies and fraud from that country.

Best universities in Africa, yet 2nd bottom level brains in the world.

80% literacy, yet the 45 million blacks have a majority that never went to school and speak Zulu/Xhosa with near ZERO English.

Huge power prodcution, yet imports electricity from Mozambique and does massive load shedding, burns 1 million candeles per night in the cities, and 15 million people who have NEVER seen electricity in their life time up till 2015 today !

They won bid for World Cup 2010 but axctually payed bribe to get it, not merit.

All nice looking data and rankings of South Africa are very doubtful and highly questionable, this country manufactures lies and spreads it worldwide, everyday every hour !
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lolest what can we say Nigerian mentality at its best...... I should buy you a ticket to witness what you wrote above....or you should ask your Nigeria brothers in south Africa to teach you about south Africa if not so ask yourself why 80% of your so called big music stars make their music videos in south Africa......if you are not mentally ill you should get the point! #DUMMY..!

Patchesagain:
A new level of delusion has been reached

Stop this cowardly habit of cancelling or striking-through other peoples' comments, if you are not intelligent enough to counter their posts, just pretend you did not see it. You devalue this thread with all these random crossing out of peoples' comments.

Mumu .

agaugust:
I am not majoring on PAF Vs RAF, it's SAAF Vs NAF.

There is ZO SINGLE official report from Lion Effort about SAAF shooting down anybody.

You are telling tales cooked up by South Africans who love to steal glory all over the world by saying they killed 1,000 Seleka rebels, yet we cannot find one single dead body among the 1,000 dead.....did your troops eat those corpses ?

Plus, how does your BVR missile claim come up? Nobody fired any missile in Lion Effort, you all had same Gripen with same radar and avionics, now you see why I said it's all a lie, you excused SAAF performance of 1 aircraft 'loss' to lack of BVR missile when nobody used any missile
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DUDE!! You don't practise with weapons you don't have!! We can't magically practise with BVR missiles that we don't have, its not realistic!
As for Seleka issue this has been proven over and over and over that we killed 800+ rebels!

And also now all of a sudden you are not majoring for the PAF vs RAF but just 2 posts ago you said it was confirmed that PAF shot down EFs in a mock air to air battle

lezz:
Namibia and Mozambique have been exporting power to you now. South Africa has borrowed over 85 billion rand to solve eskom woes but things are still falling apart.

If your GDP is a paltry 341 billion dollars and you claim to be an NIC, then south Africa is doomed. Your interrupted education would have been OK if you had run off to play rugby .

If you will only have stable growth like industrialized countries and you are still having a small GDP then south Africa is born to be very insignificant country. Brazil is the six world's biggest economy, China is 2nd Russia is 9th, India is 8th or so. These countries are all in the trillion dollar mark and are still outgrowing you.

You are a laughing 347 GDP and is bragging about growing growinf at the rate of NIC.

Patches, patches, how stupiid art thou.
South Africa is a textbook example of a 3rd world country.

1. We produce 100X more power than you
2. We are an NIC - this is fact
3. Brazil has a population of 200 million, China over a billion, Russia 143 million, India over a billion. See the correlation?

The only slowpoke here is one who tries to argue against facts.

agaugust:
NAF ATR-42 Surveyor Gabbiano radar in air to air mode tracking 200 airborne flying targets 407 km away = AWACS
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Still not an AWACS

You can apply loose definitions to anything and redifine anything as anything you want

Its an MPA, not AWACS

agaugust:
[s]Stop this cowardly habit of cancelling or striking-through other peoples' comments, if you are not intelligent enough to counter their posts, just pretend you did not see it. You devalue this thread with all these random crossing out of peoples' comments.

Mumu .[/s]

I will stop striking through your posts when you stop writing fantasy all over this forum

You devaluate the thread

You say we did not qualify for Lion Effort - substantiate it

Patchesagain:
Come with facts or dont come at all

I was actually asking you Southies to post facts of how SAAF s.hot down Sweden's air force Gripens in Lion Effort war game.

You come with facts or don't come at all with the Lion Effort fairy tale
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jln115:
Dude it doesnt matter we are better than you!! The one i got didn't count microstates and thus left out a whole lot of countries...We were actually ranked 133th out of 162 countries in 2009...So we are definitely getting better, Nigeria on the other hand has never dropped below 143rd since 2007

forget about Nigeria. We have been battling insurgency. Tell me what does a peaceful south Africa doing in the 122nd position?

agaugust:
I was actually asking you Southies to post facts of how SAAF s.hot down Sweden's air force Gripens in Lion Effort war game.

You come with facts or don't come at all with the Lion Effort fairy tale
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Citations have been posted over and over

lezz:
forget about Nigeria. We have been battling insurgency. Tell me what does a peaceful south Africa doing in the 122nd position?

What are we doing?

We are moving UP

You are moving DOWN

Patchesagain:
I will stop striking through your posts when you stop writing fantasy all over this forum

You devaluate the thread

You say we did not qualify for Lion Effort - substantiate it

Citations prove as posted here many times this year that SAAF Gripen pilots have about 10% of standard combat training hours a year, so your pilots are proved unqualified for combat, so how will you qualify to fly beside Europeans in combat game that you are technically not qualified for? Not qualified to fly combat means you are a big accident risk mid-air.

I have substantiated and the repeated posts of flying hours back me up 100%.

Please remember to strike-through this comment because it is your habit when roundly and squarely defeated in any debate
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Henry120:
South-Africa is a 3rd world country. Man even you can't be this delusional. I mean you live in the most un-equal country in the world, with one of the highest poverty/unemployment rates in Africa.

South-Africa's Ginicoefficient is 65%, with 100% been perfect inequality.

South-Africa's GDP per capita is $6,000, however looking at the numbers individually, South-African whites have a GDP per capita of $30,000 while Asians have a GDP per capita of $21,000.

What is the GDP per capita of Black's which make up 85-90% of the population?


I do hope for your sake, you don't actually believe your own lies.

SA is now officially NIC, unless if you don't want to move with times you will continue to call it 3rd world country.

Patchesagain:
Citations have been posted over and over

Never ! None.

All Lion Effort participants are totally silent on who shot down who.

Only you Southies seek glory at other countries' expense and image. You robbers, no wonder armed robbery is a hobby in your country
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Patchesagain:
Still not an AWACS

You can apply loose definitions to anything and redifine anything as anything you want

Its an MPA, not AWACS

Your retaaarded denial does not change the facts
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agaugust:
[s]Citations prove as posted here many times this year that SAAF Gripen pilots have about 10% of standard combat training hours a year, so your pilots are proved unqualified for combat, so how will you qualify to fly beside Europeans in combat game that you are technically not qualified for? Not qualified to fly combat means you are a big accident risk mid-air.

I have substantiated and the repeated posts of flying hours back me up 100%.

Please remember to strike-through this comment because it is your habit when roundly and squarely defeated in any debate [/s]
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And we have proven, over and over, that these claims are untrue - on multiple occasions

I have even been as far as showing that in the 2012/13 financial year the Gripen fleet flew over 800 hours (not the 200 claimed by the media) by posting the freaking financial reports from the SANDF

Not to mention that you didnt actually know what "standard" training hours were - I was the one who shocked you with the fact that over half of French pilots fly only 50 hours a year and are considered "combat ready"

Your allegations have been disproven, yet you continue to make them hence I strike through them and ignore them.

agaugust:
Your retaaarded denial does not change the facts
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Factually speaking, it is an MPA - according to the MANUFACTURER

But sure, you Mr "Military researcher" can redifine it whatever you want, it doesnt change what it actually IS

vandalZA:
lolest what can we say Nigerian mentality at its best...... I should buy you a ticket to witness what you wrote above....or you should ask your Nigeria brothers in south Africa to teach you about south Africa if not so ask yourself why 80% of your so called big music stars make their music videos in south Africa......if you are not mentally ill you should get the point! #DUMMY..!

Ask 50 million South Africans why your people fly weekly pilgrimage to Nigeria to seek all round solutions from TB Joshua and Chris Oyakhilome....everything and everywhere and everybody in South Africa is unclean spiritually and mentally
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agaugust:
Ask 45 million South Africans why your people fly weekly pilgrimage to Nigeria to seek solutions from TB Joshua and Chris Oyakhilome....everything and everywhere and everybody in South Africa is unclean spiritually and mentally
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Desperate people being defrauded by (surprise surprise) a Nigerian

Fraud is in your blood.

Should ask why hundreds of millions of Nigerians flee Nigeria to commit crimes across the world

Patchesagain:
Factually speaking, it is an MPA - according to the MANUFACTURER

But sure, you Mr "Military researcher" can redifine it whatever you want, it doesnt change what it actually IS

Su-30 MKI is jet fighter according to manufacturer, yet classified as mini AWACS by Indian air force due to 400 km radar range.

My military research can see the bottom of a well of water, while you thirst for water on the ground level.

Patchesagain:
Desperate people being defrauded by (surprise surprise) a Nigerian

If one single Nigeria defrauds 100,000 South Africans, then it means we are genius and you are born permanent dundeee domingoes

Patchesagain:
Should ask why hundreds of millions of Nigerians flee Nigeria to commit crimes across the world

South African crime rate is far worse than that of Nigeria.

Plus, your own fraud goes up to FIFA level, now you ruined Sepp Blatters career because you exported your Soweto criminality into world football headquaters in Europe, the whole world does not trust South Africa again, your national image is wrecked for ever !
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Patchesagain:
1. We produce 100X more power than you
2. We are an NIC - this is fact
3. Brazil has a population of 200 million, China over a billion, Russia 143 million, India over a billion. See the correlation?

The only slowpoke here is one who tries to argue against facts.

That's the reason they are better, bigger and more significant and powerful than south Africa. Stop making excuses. Accept that Providence made you a south african, that's all you'll ever be: AVERAGE.
By your GDP and demographics, you will never amount to much.

Let me paint the true picture for you:

* your economy is dying
* power is dying despite huge sums in repairs
* infrastructure , hospitals, education are dying
* crime and corruption are on the rise
* military is decaying

Nigeria's power generation has been on the steady rise having being privatised (what south Africa has been clamouring for eskom )

Our economy is moving fast leaving south africa behind as a tiny fleck of road-dirt on the track to economic superpower.

The city of khayelitsha still live with their very faeces in south Africa. FACT FACT FACT.

How pig headed and utterly hallucinating are you calling south Africa an industrialized country.

Patchesagain:
Not to mention that you didnt actually know what "standard" training hours were - I was the one who shocked you with the fact that over half of French pilots fly only 50 hours a year and are considered "combat ready"

You shocked only yourself.

Your claim about France is highly flawed, totally flawed !

Then 10 hours by SAAF is far behind 50 hours by France, and that claim about France is flawed.

France has more pilots than aircraft, they don't need all their pilots with max hours.

SAAF already has pilot shortage, plus lack of qualification. South African air force is dead.

lezz:
Namibia and Mozambique have been exporting power to you now. South Africa has borrowed over 85 billion rand to solve eskom woes but things are still falling apart.

If your GDP is a paltry 341 billion dollars and you claim to be an NIC, then south Africa is doomed. Your interrupted education would have been OK if you had run off to play rugby .

If you will only have stable growth like industrialized countries and you are still having a small GDP then south Africa is born to be very insignificant country. Brazil is the six world's biggest economy, China is 2nd Russia is 9th, India is 8th or so. These countries are all in the trillion dollar mark and are still outgrowing you.

You are a laughing 347 GDP and is bragging about growing growinf at the rate of NIC.

Patches, patches, how stupiid art thou.
South Africa is a textbook example of a 3rd world country.

lolest you don't know nothing about south Africa....let me teach you a bit about eskom all the SADC power stations are run by eskom and are south African own. eskom get electricity in namibia or mozambique using a business rule.....is like a shoprite farm in south Africa selling tomatoes to Nigerian shoprite retail....so don't be an idiot! And for more information eskom didn't borrow any money to stop the electricity problems the government sold some of its vodacom shares to a state own corporate called PIC Public Investment corporation which is 100% state own entity for R28billion-N476billion.......and for the record the load shedding is OVER..! DUMMY..!

Patchesagain:
What are we doing?

We are moving UP

You are moving DOWN

122nd position as the worst place to live in the world is actually moving in a bottomless pool of shiit. It's like a treadmill.

122nd position is so underdeveloped as a country.

agaugust:
Su-30 MKI is jet fighter according to manufacturer, yet classified as mini AWACS by Indian air force due to 400 km radar range.

My military research can see the bottom of a well of water, while you thirst for water on the ground level.

Yeah yeah, and a tank can be an artillery peice

Doesnt make it an artillery peice

agaugust:
If one single Nigeria defrauds 100,000 South Africans, then it means we are genius and you are born permanent dundeee domingoes

Proud of your criminal nature?

agaugust:
You shocked only yourself.

Your claim about France is highly flawed, totally flawed !

Then 10 hours by SAAF is far behind 50 hours by France, and that claim about France is flawed.

France has more pilots than aircraft, they don't need all their pilots with max hours.

SAAF already has pilot shortage, plus lack of qualification. South African air force is dead.

Who says france has more pilots than aircraft?

Problem is SAAF does not fly 10 hours

In 2013 SAAF had 18 aircrew, likely 12 pilots, thats 66 flight hours in that year... more than half of the french airforce gets

Boom