I haven't been to the US though, but every American I have had anything to do with were very polite and good people. So, that's a good observation you made right there!. It's a real contradiction they run such a ruthless government. I have always held this opinion.

And, yes the president have no real power in America, including the state governors you mentioned. America is ruled by large multinational corporations. Very bizarre!.

cap28:


You are totally clueless - tribalism and racism are not the same thing.

I've never heard of anyone in Nigeria being denied access to education, housing and jobs simply because they are from a different ethnic group from the ethnic group that is in power.

In the US blacks are systematically excluded and marginalised by the system of white supremacy and this has been proven with facts and figures.

Also the US imprisons more black men than any country in the world including South Africa when it was under apartheid rule.

They are the same thing bro. I have been denied school in Ife based on catchment area.
Also try being an igbo man looking for a house in lagos. U will told they don't want omo igbo.
I was told this when looking for a shop in yaba.
Tell me why Nigerians excel in America while their black americans do not

happney65:


There they go again..Ohh the Black people that are killed are mostly killed by Whites?Hiann,Are they not killed by the stupid gang fight they engage in with each other..You still have not told me how the system is against them..You havent..Did any black Man request for student Loan and he wasnt given on the basis of he's race?Am very sure you yourself would be blaming one old woman in your village for not making it yet,cos that is what you Black people do..You havent told me how Black people have worse health system.How?I need Facts.How the institution discrimated against them..I guess you where not a baby when Obama contested an Won.Did he become President with the Votes of the Blacks Alone?He would not have won if all whites decided not to vote for him...So if someone hates you on the basis of your skin,that isnt institutionalized racism like it was in the Past...Dont you Nigerians also,hate your Hausa,Igbo and Yoruba Neighbours?..That is what i am saying,so please kindly get that into your Head

The Black Man has being known to always complain and ranting and that is exactly what you are saying..Ohh lest i forget,I should not be arguing with you,not at all..Since you said,Religion sells in the US than Nigeria,when Nigeria has about 5Pastors in the 10top list of richest pastors in the World..

OK please find one of your coevals to do a back and forth with.Honestly you are boring and dry.No vex

There is no American state that is even half of Nigeria, be it landmark and population wise Nigeria is approximately 180 million people the biggest state in Amnerica is California with a population 38million ppl followed by Texas 26million Florida and New York 19each 4 states from 12 to 10million all the rest are 9milion down....................... Wikipedia... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population

omonnakoda:
Depends on what you mean by "succesful" It is important to hae more than a superficial understanding of the issues which are not restricted to America. They are truly profound and have permeated us deeply in Africa from colonial times. The core issue is we have allowed ourselves to be persuaded that we are inferior. This is a collective thing.Individuals may protest otherwise but as a group it is all pervasive. We worship foreign gods and go to foreign lands on pilgrimage. We bleach our skins and perm our hair we even import Brazilian hair. We clamour for foreign coaches etc . Even here on Nairaland when we get into arguments with Ghanaians it is considered a point scoring abuse to ridicule their "blackness". So really we do not think properly and that is why I question what you mean by successful. Those engaging in flaunting "bling" are managing their self-loathing as best theyy can. Man has so many psychological devices in his toolbox to manage inadequacy. For me a succesful person is one who is awake and I can count on one hand the number I have met in my life. Even worse is not knowing that one is asleep.

Jesus Christ or Mohammed will NEVER solve our problems and as long as they are with us we shall continue to have problems

Are we not truly inferior by our mental LAZINESS

Look around you now and check how many of the things you use that are discovered/invented/made/improved/maintained by black people and/or technology from black people?

Ordinary malaria that almost exclusively occurs on our continent, can we precisely diagnose it with our own home grown and constantly improved technology

Do we have the discipline and can we make the sacrifice for the improvement of the reputation of our black race among other races? This is the question we need to address instead of blaming the past, history other people but our own mental laziness.

We will remain scumbags of the earth if we continue on this path to nowhere.

anonimi:


Truth hurts definitely.

Is lawless not quite same as primitive?

What do African American successful artists and athletes do to promote the education and subsequent empowerment of their own race in the country? You can go through the following thread on NVS for a sample of what I am talking about:


http://nigeriavillagesquare.com/forum/main-square/88983-tale-two-boxers-manny-vs-mayweather.html



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Why do Asian Americans not suffer the same fate as African Americans


For how long shall we be our own worst enemies? Perhaps you should reflect on these issues.

What makes me laugh is that aside from having a detailed cultured element, African Americans are the same as many Nigerians or other Africans. Who knows...maybe in some way their ancestors found a way to connect with them because they don't care about other AA as a whole. 100+ years is only a small drop in history so I jokingly say to myself that my fellow AA's behavior may be the Igbo in them. Guys like Mayweather can barely read but he'll make more money than we'll ever see, so why would he donate money to a school when he's doing well at being a athlete, not a scholar? Same thing for our drug dealers, they'll drive past their neighborhood's broke school with flashy cars full of money and won't donate a dime. Theyre fully set on making money and that's it... They don't care to see how racism is playing them, all they see is the money just like the women these days.

OP rasicm isnt exaggerated. Go to the southern states and you would see.
Each state is autonomous... Every state has its rules, tax percentages etc.

They check IDs cos underaged people are not allowed in the clubs...thats the law. Even if you go to buy alcohol or cigarettes at Walmart and co, you have to show your ID card to show you are not underaged.

Most hotels offer bread and breakfast. You cannot compare the cost of a room there with the same quality of room in Nigeria. With what you are charged in Nigeria they should even offer you lunch and dinner free.

Iv been around black americans and im sorry to say they don't help themselves. That black American mentality is giving them lots of problems. Why do Nigerians who emmigrate there do well?


People are saying we are enjoying in Nigeria because we live in a lawless country where they openly sell pirated movies on the street. That's why our artists would beg for money to treat ailments.

AAinEqGuinea:
What makes laugh is that aside from have a detailed cultured element, African Americans are the same as many Nigerians or other Africans. Who knows...maybe in some way their ancestors found a way to connect with them because they don't care about other AA as a whole. 100+ years is only a small drop in history so I jokingly say to myself that my fellow AA's behavior may be the Igbo in them. Guys like Mayweather can barely read but he'll make more money than we'll ever see, so why would he donate money to a school when he's doing well at being a athlete, not a scholar? Same thing for our drug dealers, they'll drive past their neighborhood's broke school with flashy cars full of money and won't donate a dime. Theyre fully set on making money and that's it... They don't care to see how racism is playing them, all they see is the money just like the women these days.

Thanks.

So why blame the white system for (mainly) our own woes?

How can we make these successful drug dealers, athletes, artistes understand the need to make their own community better by sowing into it as the whites do

elego1:
Like seriously, Nigeria is a free country...
In Nigeria, u buy 10 in 1 movie disc for 150 naira ($0.87). while in America the average price for a movies disc is $10 (2000 naira), while 10 movies is 20,000 naira.
meh!!! we are really enjoying in this country.

u just said rubbish now...so u support piracy

SkinnyDude:
alaska is too big nah... just texas... texas is lagger than naija....

texas is not bigger than Nigeria. It is 75% of Nigeria land mass

ShakurM:
MOST IMPORTANT!

That's what makes it a nation

bebe2:


Come Aug 17th , I will see all with my two eyes,

And see my cousins after 18yrs of separation.

Looking forward to it

Aww.. make sure you enjoy yourself. You might find yourself bored alone at home. So I will advise you set aside some money to travel around.

Elder4all:


Oga who told you that Na wa ooo.....

. There is no American state that is even half of Nigeria, be it landmark and population wise Nigeria is approximately 180 million people the biggest state in Amnerica is California with a population 38million ppl followed by Texas 26million Florida and New York 19each 4 states from 12 to 10million all the rest are 9milion down....................... Wikipedia... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population

I love Nigeria

bushdoc9919:


Because if anything goes wrong...like a 15 year old pretending to be a 19 year old who gets too drunk,and gets hurt...the club could be held responsible.

Good policy really.At my place of work.....we have been told to have ID on at all times....and I can say the same for many govt establishments.

Most 15year old can handle 3 bottles of beer better dan even a 30year old.

When will people accept Age as just a number?

charlesucheh:
I will stay in Nigeria and enjoy my money like I'm in America.
Don't get it when rich folks still go abroad to reside!!! For what!!!!

if you are really wealthy, then USA or UK is better than Nigeria to live in. The system will take care of you

Worst corporations in USA are above the best in Naija.

Interesting!


http://www.bummyla.com

post=35785454:


9. Americans show ID Cards when entering the club So you go to the club and you come with your ID.

Weird in most places right? Not in America, as for most places, you must be properly identified before you are admitted. If you are a foreigner, you can only be admitted if you come along with your international passport. Imagine how uncomfortable it gets putting your passport in your back pocket or hip pocket or the risk of losing it all together. Well, to be admitted in most places of revelry in MAerica, it is your passport that gains you entrée.

because of strict liability, bars and clubs must verify ID and age of patrons before you are served alcohol. US drinking age is 21; and it's strictly enforced unlike in Naija where it's 18 and nobody enforces it.

cityAdventures:




Source: http://www.intercityadventures.com/20-things-i-discovered-while-travelling-across-america/

i have received annoiting oil to give you because you are my future husband. When can i spray it on you?

So on point!

cityAdventures:




Source: http://www.intercityadventures.com/20-things-i-discovered-while-travelling-across-america/

Probably the most intelligent thread I've read. Very educative!

OP definitely nice write up, straight to the point and very informative, though you didn't mention to the readers that they can earn like $100 a day or more or around $250 to $500 a week working full or part time on some of the lowest end jobs in the US, the ease of getting the jobs too is much higher than in Naija. Though in a more realistic sense, working in the states is "hardwork and fast work" not the "dilly dallying" kind of thing we do in Naija.

Kudos, you did a good job posting this.

anonimi:


Was the Oyo Empire founded and sustained with or without violence?


Was the Sokoto/Fulani Caliphate founded and sustained with or without violence?

Was the Benin Empire (that included present day Lagos Island) founded and sustained with or without violence?]

Were any of these empires built on stolen land and the blood and sweat of European slave labour?

Between 1914 and 1945 (31 years) Europe had two World Wars with over 10 million people killed including genocide of Jews to REDRAW the borders of their countries among other reasons/consequences.
So violence and nation founding/building are intertwined.

Firstly, the casualties of both wars were far more than 10 million, Russia alone lost over 22 million of its own people in the second world war. And secondly those wars were essentially about who would control the worlds resources, particularly the resources in the so called third world. So essentially Germany was trying to usurp Britain's position in the world and seize control of all of its colonies and wealth in Africa.
Therefore there is no comparison between empire building in Africa and empire building in Europe or North America as their objectives were not the same.
Europe's wealth and power was based on the mass murder, ra.pe and pillage of other people's wealth and land whilst the various empires in Africa were confined to inter ethnic conflict and expansion within the continent.

Were the Japanese SOLD as slaves by their own kiths and kins who received what they considered FAIR price for the sale?

So because a handful of African chiefs participated in the slave trade this now means all ethnic groups on the entire west African coastline were complicit in the slave trade? Did you know that many Jews were complicit in the mass murder of their own people under Nazi Germany? Does that also means that all Jews collaborated with the Nazis to send their kith and kin to concentration camps to be gassed? It is only Africans who exonerate whites from their participation in one of the most heinous crimes in history, no other race does this except Africans, i find it very shameful.

The slave trade was a capitalist machine set up and run by the Europeans. The wealth of the countries of western Europe and the US was built on the blood, sweat and tears of enslaved Africans but instead of people like you to acknowledge this basic fact you make excuses for them, shame on you.

elego1:
Like seriously, Nigeria is a free country...
In Nigeria, u buy 10 in 1 movie disc for 150 naira ($0.87). while in America the average price for a movies disc is $10 (2000 naira), while 10 movies is 20,000 naira.
meh!!! we are really enjoying in this country.

that's why u see Rkelly living in a 10 million dollar mansion and Wizkid struggles to get a duplex in lekki. Nigerians are wicked people. why buy pirated CDs?

Unemadu:


They are the same thing bro. I have been denied school in Ife based on catchment area.
Also try being an igbo man looking for a house in lagos. U will told they don't want omo igbo.
I was told this when looking for a shop in yaba.
Tell me why Nigerians excel in America while their black americans do not

They are not the same thing, bro.

I know many igbos who attend military and federal government colleges in the north, no-one treated them differently because they were Igbo.

One of my good friends attended the Nigerian Military School in Zaria and never had any problems there.

On the other hand i know many black people who attended white elite schools in the US and the UK that had serious problems simply because of the colour of their skin.

MarryMeee:
i have received annoiting oil to give you because you are my future husband. When can i spray it on you?

kikiki...right now, dear

socialmediaman:
OP definitely nice write up, straight to the point and very informative, though you didn't mention to the readers that they can earn like $100 a day or more or around $250 to $500 a week working full or part time on some of the lowest end jobs in the US, the ease of getting the jobs too is much higher than in Naija. Though in a more realistic sense, working in the states is "hardwork and fast work" not the "dilly dallying" kind of thing we do in Naija.

Kudos, you did a good job posting this.

True dat

iyknaz:
Probably the most intelligent thread I've read. Very educative!

Yes Boss

oppybouy:
apparently we don't know how lucky we are in this country....


still every hustling brother out there wants to go to 'obodo oyinbo'

Bro, all jokes aside, America is not even in the same world as 9ja. If USA is considered 1st world, then 9ja should be considered more like 40th world, not 3rd world. Thats just the truth.

cityAdventures:


kikiki...right now, dear

bring your forehead closer

anonimi:


Are we not truly inferior by our mental LAZINESS

Look around you now and check how many of the things you use that are discovered/invented/made/improved/maintained by black people and/or technology from black people?

Ordinary malaria that almost exclusively occurs on our continent, can we precisely diagnose it with our own home grown and constantly improved technology

Do we have the discipline and can we make the sacrifice for the improvement of the reputation of our black race among other races? This is the question we need to address instead of blaming the past, history other people but our own mental laziness.

We will remain scumbags of the earth if we continue on this path to nowhere.

No you will remain a scumbag because you are so full of self loathing. How can you say that we have never invented anything in this world when it has been proven time and time again that the Greeks copied everything they learnt from Egyptians who were pure black African people? How were we existing before the white man invaded our continent and truncated our development, have you ever asked yourself this question? Why are our artefacts sitting in the British museum on display?