We can now bring the healthy debate on now without abusing each other . Has anyone experience any negative result from feeding raw Foetus?

Prodeegee:
you see, I understand how this would be for you. You sell foetus and I don't mean to spoil your business.so stop making it look like I am.

I say a capital no, oluomo says a capital yes...The fact I said a no doesn't make it wrong. Like I stated out on one thread, if the foetus wasn't aborted from the mother then it's not infectious. But that's not even my reason for a no, it's how it looks at least I've seen it once or twice and it's quite irritating.

Now trying to imagine how dogs would eat that raw...Is my No!

I have friends who rear rabbits just because they want to keep up with raw feeding, there other raw means. It's all a matter of improvising.

You sell 5kg of foetus for 2k ryt?

Funny enough, we've met before but you won't know.

Bottomline, I don't have an issue with you or your foetus sales. Nomatter what transpires on nl, we're still brothers. You state the reasons foetus is edible for dogs and I don't have an issue wif you.

Happy sunday brov

pro degree, what you were saying bout buying a whole chicken IS just a plain act of childishness . Only people who have nothing shout hat they have something to cover up for Their Insecurities

Prodeegee:
oh pls! You killed it from the beginning not sharing any real life experience. As a vet, you should be able to come out and give a speech on why something is bad without quoting a website.

The essence of this thread was to share your own experience, and others share theirs too. Tobolos just brought his personal shii into it, which I'm not bothered about.

Like I always say, 90% of people I argue with on nl, are my real friends. The mature ones. Even olomoadebayo, I'm trying so he won't see this as a dispute btw him and I.

Does anything I say mean you shouldn't continue on what you know is right? Hell No! We are two brothers from different angles. This is more like a debate. No personals.

1st, I'm not a vet, 2nd, I'm not saying raw feeding is bad, but it could be dangerous to your dog, most especially in this environment of ours where even we humans have no certification over our meats, how much more over the ones's we give dogs. Yeah! If it's clean for us, it's clean for our dogs, but don't forget we boil ours which could kill the virus that might be in it. But dogs have it raw with the virus alive.
Though, depending on the virus, it might not be harmful for some reasons, but with time... do you know if this same virus improves?
This is my point.
And to tell the truth, I'd love to feed raw, based on concrete research, though, very expensive. But the hygiene part of it? Now you can smile and tuck in your shirt.
NOTE: I just read this copy and paste you did, though, with reference. Isn't this one an internet gig prodeegee? You had better agree the internet is a learning globe with real life experiences being shared.
Now you can turn away from the wall, we forgive your showing off.

Chai Pro degree, thy haff kee U finish, lemme not add my own before U go run like my chairman Arcbay

tobolos:


Go back and read all your dictatorial post condemning people's belief and imposing your own ideology.
Experiences are meant to be shared so that other people can learn the hard way.Experiences gives the test before the lessons.
We are suppose to put our lessons on the table for people to grab one or two points for personal consumption.

Saying that only a broke breeder buys foetus tells a lot about your age and life experience have met with established bankers,engineers,doctors and other business men who go for foetus not because of the price but the value it adds to their dogs.

Talking about biz,no one can spoil any bix that has been tested and trusted by the user.You just revealed that you have not even tested the foetus before so where is your sense of judgment coming from?
This strongly show you are definitely out to condemn.

Thank God you have met me before,you should know the stuff I am made up of. People who know me well even on nairaland know what I do for a living and can't believe it is tobolos arguing on the thread over mere foetus but I hate it when one want to impose his/her ideas on another person.

Views are meant to be shared from experiences!!!

Happy sunday bro.

we could go on and on...But I'll always tell you 'my view is my view and doesn't change what anyone feels'. I don't see it as imposing, mr.

And you're still being crowded by being quick to judge.

Prodeegee says 'how can one feed that irritating thing'

Tobolos says 'prodeegee, this and this is how it's been fed'

Is there any harm in that?

And I only stated how I feed in relation to the discussion because I don't want to bother myself about somethings. I feed fish when I'm not boxed up enough to feed chicken.

All I'm saying is, we can argue as matured men and not bring sentiments into it. You got my point bro I'm a very easy person.

awolola26:



pro degree, what you were saying bout buying a whole chicken IS just a plain act of childishness . Only people who have nothing shout hat they have something to cover up for Their Insecurities

Ugh...swerve!

GRACEGLORY:


1st, I'm not a vet, 2nd, I'm not saying raw feeding is bad, but it could be dangerous to your dog, most especially in this environment of ours where even we humans have no certification over our meats, how much more over the ones's we give dogs. Yeah! If it's clean for us, it's clean for our dogs, but don't forget we boil ours which could kill the virus that might be in it. But dogs have it raw with the virus alive.
Though, depending on the virus, it might not be harmful for some reasons, but with time... do you know if this same virus improves?
This is my point.
And to tell the truth, I'd love to feed raw, based on concrete research, though, very expensive. But the hygiene part of it? Now you can smile and tuck in your shirt.
NOTE: I just read this copy and paste you did, though, with reference. Isn't this one an internet gig prodeegee? You had better agree the internet is a learning globe with real life experiences being shared.
Now you can turn away from the wall, we forgive your showing off.

dude, what copy and paste did I do o?

I own those websites nigga!

And oh, you're not a vet...dang! Why the hell....tch!

oluomoadebayo:
We can now bring the healthy debate on now without abusing each other . Has anyone experience any negative result from feeding raw Foetus?

Oluomo, a couple of guys have constant issues with foetus feeding. And I mean constant.

Most of them are rott breeders.

The issue is, they always have reproductive issues. This is not just one, or 2 people. A couple of breeders and the similar thing they do is feeding foetus.

Now I'm not all ruling that it's the cause, but its a possible cause.

Apitch:
Chai Pro degree, thy haff kee U finish, lemme not add my own before U go run like my chairman Arcbay

lol...you sef know say trouble na my second name, just like you.

I don miss me and you trouble for here o...tho I've bn busy ds days sha.

Run away ke? Its start and end trouble on same thread, no carryover!

See u on bbm

Prodeegee:


Oluomo, a couple of guys have constant issues with foetus feeding. And I mean constant.

Most of them are rott breeders.

The issue is, they always have reproductive issues. This is not just one, or 2 people. A couple of breeders and the similar thing they do is feeding foetus.

Now I'm not all ruling that it's the cause, but its a possible cause.

You have to tell us what the dogs are lacking because of feeding foetus and why its affecting the dogs to reproduce.

Prodeegee:


Ugh...swerve!

It is soo obvious that your gumption issue plummeting down directly into the Bermuda Triangle

Prodeegee:


Ugh...swerve!

It is soo obvious that your gumption is plummeting down directly into the Bermuda Triangle

i wish i could debate on issues here on NL but i don't just like argument atall.
Once i see trouble i quickly run cuz I've seen terrible arguments with butchers at d abattoir

Prodeegee:
lol...you sef know say trouble na my second name, just like you.

I don miss me and you trouble for here o...tho I've bn busy ds days sha.

Run away ke? Its start and end trouble on same thread, no carryover!

See u on bbm

Godspearl:
i wish i could debate on issues here on NL but i don't just like argument atall.
Once i see trouble i quickly run cuz I've seen terrible arguments with butchers at d abattoir

I get u!

I was actually mistaken you for the op, then I went back to check.

Sometimes I just get so bored

oluomoadebayo:


You have to tell us what the dogs are lacking because of feeding foetus and why its affecting the dogs to reproduce.

It's not about what the dogs are lacking, it all boils down to brucellosis.

Truth be told, I'm used to 'kara' along lagos/ibadan expressway and I've never seen a female cow slaughtered.

But I was told the abbatoir at agege slaughters female cows.

The question is

1. Why isn't the foetus sold for human consumption?

2. How do you know this foetus you bought is brucellosis free?

3. Why not opt for biscuitbone; I remembered you called me once for my source of meat and I told you when I'm broke, I opt for biscuit bone. Fresh biscuitbone has a lot of beef on it, is cheaper and nutritious

Prodeegee:
It's not about what the dogs are lacking, it all boils down to brucellosis.

Truth be told, I'm used to 'kara' along lagos/ibadan expressway and I've never seen a female cow slaughtered.

But I was told the abbatoir at agege slaughters female cows.

The question is

1. Why isn't the foetus sold for human consumption?

2. How do you know this foetus you bought is brucellosis free?

3. Why not opt for biscuitbone; I remembered you called me once for my source of meat and I told you when I'm broke, I opt for biscuit bone. Fresh biscuitbone has a lot of beef on it, is cheaper and nutritious

Some guys can surely eat it but i can't because its not yet developed for my liking. The same reason I don't eat chicken from our Nigerian farms.

I don't need to worry about any parasite because the dog system is design for such. Have you ever noticed your dog hiding meats for few days before going back to it without any issue?

No genuine raw feeder will feed biscuit bone as the main food on a daily basis. Dogs only need 15 to 20% of bones not 60%. I called you because i thought you have a better source than mine which I realized my source is even better. I have access to chicken neck,backs,chest and legs but I only use them as treat or add to major food. I did my research with foetus and I'm 100% sure its safe to feed and I have proof. My dogs are fit as fiddle and very athletic with only muscle mass not excess fat.

oluomoadebayo:


Some guys can surely eat it but i can't because its not yet developed for my liking. The same reason I don't eat chicken from our Nigerian farms.

I don't need to worry about any parasite because the dog system is design for such. Have you ever noticed your dog hiding meats for few days before going back to it without any issue?

No genuine raw feeder will feed biscuit bone as the main food on a daily basis. Dogs only need 15 to 20% of bones not 60%. I called you because i thought you have a better source than mine which I realized my source is even better. I have access to chicken neck,backs,chest and legs but I only use them as treat or add to major food. I did my research with foetus and I'm 100% sure its safe to feed and I have proof. My dogs are fit as fiddle and very athletic with only muscle mass not excess fat.

so basically, you dont believe brucellosis affects dogs in anyway? Or that infected foetus could cause brucellosis?

It's not about the length of unreserved meat, dogs eat decayed animals I know.

Like I said, from observation the common deed in breeders whose dogs have brucellosis is foetus.

Getting sources of chicken isn't a hard thing, it's just their consistency, even 100% beef.

Prodeegee:
so basically, you dont believe brucellosis affects dogs in anyway? Or that infected foetus could cause brucellosis?

It's not about the length of unreserved meat, dogs eat decayed animals I know.

Like I said, from observation the common deed in breeders whose dogs have brucellosis is foetus.

Getting sources of chicken isn't a hard thing, it's just their consistency, even 100% beef.

I belief it does affect dogs with weak immunity,in fact the chances to affect healthy dogs are very low. Most of the cattles are rear for human consumption and if it's good for human,it's super for dogs.

oluomoadebayo:


I belief it does affect dogs with weak immunity,in fact the chances to affect healthy dogs are very low. Most of the cattles are rear for human consumption and if it's good for human,it's super for dogs.

Now, your dog has a strong immune system. Probably cos their immune hasn't been tampered with divers vaccines and co. How many dogs would have this level of immunity?


And remember, human boil this meat, Noone eats it raw.

Prodeegee:


Now, your dog has a strong immune system. Probably cos their immune hasn't been tampered with divers vaccines and co. How many dogs would have this level of immunity?


And remember, human boil this meat, Noone eats it raw.

Human have different digestive system to dogs.

Prodeegee post=360433http://www.nairaland.com/2462461/cheapest-way-feed-raw-meatsttp://www.nairaland.com/2462461/cheapest-way-feed-raw-meats3:


Now, your dog has a strong immune system. Probably cos their immune hasn't been tampered with divers vaccines and co. How many dogs would have this level of immunity?


And remember, human boil this meat, Noone eats it raw.

Oya come this side and share ideas:

Oya come this side and share ideas: [https://www.nairaland.com/2462461/cheapest-way-feed-raw-meats


author=oluomoadebayo post=36043755]
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oluomoadebayo:

Human have different digestive system to dogs.

anyways, both points have been made. It's left to anyone to decide which he/she would love to opt for.

As always, olomoadebayo thanks for your time and patience. Someone somewhere has learnt something new. I still got some questions to ask tho not relating to this topic, but that'll be on another day of trouble

Peace!

Prodeegee:

anyways, both points have been made. It's left to anyone to decide which he/she would love to opt for.

As always, olomoadebayo thanks for your time and patience. Someone somewhere has learnt something new. I still got some questions to ask tho, but that'll be on another day of trouble

Peace!

Trouble? Count me out lol.

oluomoadebayo:

Trouble? Count me out lol.

ah, I know how I can always get you in...

awolola26:


It is soo obvious that your gumption issue plummeting down directly into the Bermuda Triangle

I stopped responding to the guy when I got all his full data from his pal, starboard who happens to be my junior colleague at the same place of work. I then realized I have been downgrading myself.
I now understand why he delights to t-e-tex-t than to s-p-e-speakk being a very ee-a-eas-y guy. Lol

Prodeegee:
you see, I understand how this would be for you. You sell foetus and I don't mean to spoil your business.so stop making it look like I am.

I say a capital no, oluomo says a capital yes...The fact I said a no doesn't make it wrong. Like I stated out on one thread, if the foetus wasn't aborted from the mother then it's not infectious. But that's not even my reason for a no, it's how it looks at least I've seen it once or twice and it's quite irritating.

Now trying to imagine how dogs would eat that raw...Is my No!

I have friends who rear rabbits just because they want to keep up with raw feeding, there other raw means. It's all a matter of improvising.

You sell 5kg of foetus for 2k ryt?

Funny enough, we've met before but you won't know.

Bottomline, I don't have an issue with you or your foetus sales. Nomatter what transpires on nl, we're still brothers. You state the reasons foetus is edible for dogs and I don't have an issue wif you.

Happy sunday brov

It looks good. I've been tempted once or twice to share a meal with my pup. Yes, it's that good.

I only fed for two weeks or thereabout, and my pup loved it, and did quite well on it. The changes were very obvious. I paused temporarily because my freezer was too small for all of us. I'll continue once I get a separate freezer for my boy.

I've been following this whole argument right from the start...

Prodeegee (a.k.a Dog lord or whatever), look before you leap! Your dog breeding ish can never be enough knowledge for you...





...yes, I'm a veterinarian!

DocAdray:
I've been following this whole argument right from the start...

Prodeegee (a.k.a Dog lord or whatever), look before you leap! Your dog breeding ish can never be enough knowledge for you...





...yes, I'm a veterinarian!

your voice has been heard, thank you but im not a dog breeder. veterinarian adray.

somany issues needing vets help and you squeeze your fingers there, now its time to talk to prodeegee your fingers are energetic. the real vets here, we know them!

lacicrips:

It looks good. I've been tempted once or twice to share a meal with my pup. Yes, it's that good.

I only fed for two weeks or thereabout, and my pup loved it, and did quite well on it. The changes were very obvious. I paused temporarily because my freezer was too small for all of us. I'll continue once I get a separate freezer for my boy.

lol...bros you get mind o.maybe na me no get mind sha

i want to apologise to whoever i might have offended on this thread. i surely didnt mean to offend anyone. tobolos, see me as your brother. i would really want you to. graceglory, sorry if i offended you too. i never took any of it personal. oluomoadebayo...i still respect you anyday! you the boss! forget all ds my arguments. lol, peace

Prodeegee:
your voice has been heard, thank you but im not a dog breeder. veterinarian adray.

somany issues needing vets help and you squeeze your fingers there, now its time to talk to prodeegee your fingers are energetic. the real vets here, we know them!

Yes, so many issues needing vets help... well I barely have time for Nairaland (anyone here with a case can contact me though BBM - 7F266F10)
'The real vets here', like you right