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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 9:41am On Aug 01, 2015 |
Slyder:What is the use of engaging in a discuss when there is no agreeable end in sight. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 9:53am On Aug 01, 2015 |
UniqueGem:Lol,I understand..... Sterling is C grade and Bacca is top 5 forward...... dumb |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Karlebolu(m): 10:18am On Aug 01, 2015 |
bigkesh: Sterling a grade C player? I just blame Liverpool. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:21am On Aug 01, 2015 |
An Apples-To-Apples Comparison Of TV Rights Fees Paid To Big European Soccer Leagues 2/15/2015 @ 3:30PM 3,043 views The shock-wave caused by the Premier League’s record domestic TV rights deal continues to reverberate around the world but especially in Europe. Prior to the announcement on Tuesday the other big leagues in Europe held a hope that they could at least close the gap with the Premier League behemoth. That bubble burst when Sky and BT secured the UK rights to broadcast three seasons of the Premier League starting in 2016/17 season and concluding with the 2018/19 season. Starting in the 2016/17 season the twenty Premier League clubs will generate $2.7B from domestic rights alone; the combined take for domestic and foreign rights of the top leagues in France, Germany and Italy will be $3B. Once foreign sales are concluded in the next year the Premier League can expect another $1.4B and that means the gap between the Premier and the three rival leagues will expand to over 36%. What is more the teams from the Premier League that qualify for next season’s Champions League can look forward to at least another $30M in guaranteed money on account of a new domestic TV deal for the rights to Europe’s top club competition. BT paid over $1.3B to outbid rival Sky that had previously paid around $600M. With some many numbers flying around it can difficult to determine if we are getting an apples-to-apples comparison. Are we dealing with domestic rights or domestic and international rights? Are we using comparable contracts? What exchange rates are being used? Some contracts are fixed and some include escalation clauses. None of the TV contract cycles are aligned so here is a chart showing when the current TV deals expire and when the next deals will finish. La Liga has not been included in any of the charts on account of the yet to be agreed approach to move from individual selling to centralized marketing. The government says it has to be done, the teams agree but none of the clubs – namely Real Madrid and Barcelona – that stand to lose in the short term can agree on a transitional plan. Here are the values of current domestic and overseas rights for this current season. (Exchange rates used £=$1.53, €=$1.13 and any escalation has been averaged.) 2014 rights (see link) Then we come to what the picture will look like in 2016/17. 2017 TV rights The overseas rights for Ligue 1 contain an extra twist. The current deal runs out at the conclusion of the 2017/18 season but a new deal has already been agreed that pre-sells the rights from 2018 right through to the end of the 2023/24 season. Last June BeIN Sports agreed to pay €80 million ($90M) a year for six years to the League for overseas rights. The boost for the Bundesliga comes from an international deal signed between the league and Fox that is expected to bump the rights fee by at least $90M starting with the 2015/16 season. And the Premier League TV bonanza was not the only rights story from last week. North American broadcasters were stunned to learn that Fox Sports in the US and Bell Media (CTV, TSN and RDS) in Canada had negotiated an extension to their World Cup deals with FIFA. Originally set to expire after Qatar 2022 the two broadcasters have successfully leveraged the soon-to-be-announced move to a winter World Cup in 2022 into what must be close to a “buy two get one at a reduced price” deal. As noted in last weeks column FIFA’s reserves will likely climb to around $1.5B when financial results are announced in May.With reserves running at around 30% of the revenue generated in the most recent four-year cycle FIFA has decided to deal with some potentially squeaky wheels while they have the money to take a financial hit. There can be little doubt that FIFA has had to buy off the two North American broadcasters given that a late or early year World Cup will conflict with the normal North American sports calendar. But what FIFA get in return is some financial certainty and more importantly the risk of legal action has faded away. http://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbymcmahon/2015/02/15/an-apples-to-apples-comparison-of-tv-rights-fees-paid-to-big-european-soccer-leagues/
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by UniqueGem(m): 10:33am On Aug 01, 2015 |
bigkesh:The thing weak me. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 10:43am On Aug 01, 2015 |
This is really funny. Germany population is higher than the whole of UK. German economy is better. So why aren't people interested in paying much locally to view the matches. International: 2014/15 season which is the latest figures we have. Premier league were able to sell it's oversea TV right for $1billion. Bundesliga could only sell for $80million. I beg make we leave this free to air league. Despite being on free to air in Nigeria, people arent even intersted. I tried to follow two years ago. Na punishement to watch to sit and watch 45 minutes of Bundesliga matches. True! When I watch first half, I usually find it hard to continue second half. 1 Like |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 11:07am On Aug 01, 2015 |
Debroslink:Why won't Madrid and Barca have the best players when they share 70percent of the income in their league. Without the oil rich dads, Madrid and Barca would be on par with Everton if they were in England. Or why no other team in your league bar Madrid and Barca has won CL?. A league is made up of 20 teams not 2-3 teams bro. Don't know why it's hard to accept. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 11:34am On Aug 01, 2015 |
elampiro:who's even bringing Bundesliga here when we're arguing about laliga and the EPL? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 11:41am On Aug 01, 2015 |
so we have gone from strength of league to TV ratings? Where is the logic to that  |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:03pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
leggo: How would you measure the strength of a league? 1 Like |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by leggo: 12:27pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Leyqute:head to head with other leagues and quite frankly the EPL has been piss poor. TV viewership is not objective , do you know how many crap TV shows are still on air due to mass followers? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:34pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
chrisley024: Fine, only barca and Madrid have won UCL in Spain. But I tell you this, there is no dominant team in Europe from epl clubs. United used to be one of them till their decline in 2011. Where are Aston Villa and Nottingham forest today? Where is Leeds United? Where is Liverpool? Even Chelsea's success in Europe will be a flash in the pan just like others. But you see the likes of Valencia, Atletico Madrid and Sevilla consistent in Europe for the past 10 years. If the 3 La Liga clubs play in EPL, they will make top 4 consistently. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 12:40pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
bigkesh: If Chelsea had brought Bacca instead of Falcao, I'm sure you will troll United thread better than this. Tell me any striker better than Bacca in EPL aside Aguero. As for Sterling, a player whose record is awful in Europe is worth 40m pounds. He's not as good as Sanchez. An overrated player. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 12:45pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
elampiro: Haa! So you are the only person permitted to know who'll win a league before the Champions are crowned? Just like you know who the winner of the league will be before it even starts, thats how I knew Chelsea would win the league since December! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pamcode(m): 12:50pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Debroslink:and how many seasons of european football has sterling had? If after this season or the next season with mancity and his effort is still poor then you can type this gibberish. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 12:52pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Gary Lineker: Time to stop 'pretending' that Premier League is strongest in the world is anybody here more British than him?  1 Like |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 12:58pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
UniqueGem: We also quoted that Man U would win 2009-2010 EPL after winning it 3 years in a row! |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 1:26pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Debroslink:other LA liga teams should also be consistent in CL which we can argue only Barca has if we check for last 10yrs. Who's interested in Europa. Like I said earlier, Barca and Madrid won't have the money for all these top players if they were in EPL except with the support of the oil rich dads. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by bigkesh(m): 1:27pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Debroslink:Sanchez was no where at 20,sterling isn't 26 yet...What record in Europe are u talking about, with that awful Liverpool in one UCL pls.........As for Bacca,u are jonzing......... So Bacca is better than Costa? pls,not even lukaku,gat nothing on lukaku |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:38pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
StarBoard:I doubt coogar is stingy |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 1:41pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
These Barcelona fans are some of the most irritating people on this board. .. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 1:42pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
These Barcelona fans are some of the most irritating people on this board. .. Walahi |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:46pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
EPL is the best league in the world. barca are the best team in the world.... the league is not about the top 2 teams.....it's the overall strength of the 20 teams in a league that we are talking about. la liga is not stronger than EPL but barca are stronger than any club in the EPL. if any of you la liga fans cannot understand this fact that you shouldn't be watching football at all....... |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Odunharry(m): 1:47pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
THE SECRETS OF MANCHESTER UNITED'S NEW KIT Adidas' senior designer Inigo answered our questions about Manchester United's new kit... How many people are involved in the planning, developing and making of the kit? Not so many. In terms of the content itself, usually from over here, we have myself as designer and my superior and we'll share it among the teams. We have around eight designers, our marketing colleagues and the product manager. Development are the guys who actually make the jersey come to life in the end. Obviously, we also run it through our communications department as well because they produce the material you see in videos and the printed media. Why the classic look? We have a few directions and then discuss it internally and see which one best fits the story we want to tell. We're pretty confident with the whole story about the two partners coming back together that this was a clear direction and one we're really comfortable with. We felt the first jersey back should be a celebration of this so it needed to be red, the v-neck was very iconic and very much a Manchester United adidas shirt and, obviously, just the three white stripes. This means, on a very basic level, this was a clear winner. It wasn't so difficult in the first season because we've waited a long time and wanted to celebrate the look of us both together. Is there a certain type of red used on the strip? It is called 'real red'. It was crucial that the red used is correct. The club has an archive of jerseys, all of which have a similar red to them, so we wanted the colour which United are synonymous with now and also the one which is close to the one we had in the past. So it involved looking at the current red and then checking it against the one we had on the old adidas shirt. They're not actually that far apart so we chose one which fits for both. It's a unique red for the club and we hope the fans will like it. What are the future plans for the away kit? The colours are definitely not set as the away strip changes more than the home kit. The away ones are always an area where we can try new things and it's usually an important discussion with the club. There is more of an experimental process. For instance, the adidas designs in the early nineties were marmite jerseys, so you either loved them or hated them, but they have become quite iconic now. Tell us some secrets of the new kit... The blue away strip between 1990 and 1992 was a key thing we wanted to include in the shirt. On the hem of the waist on the home jersey, we have this debossing and it's the 'M' graphic from the kit we all remember from the 6-2 win at Arsenal and the Rumbelows Cup final success as this was the inspiration point for that. We wanted to have cues to the old jerseys and show we'd looked into the past and re-imagined them into a modern shirt or re-interpreted it. The 1982 jersey inspired the overall look of the shirt with the v-neck and coloured engineered collar, which is tipped red and black and then the white cuff. The waistband was more of a subtle nod to that 1990s away shirt but it brings an extra level of detail on the kit which the fans will notice, not at first glance, but understand the reference later on. What about any technology used in the shirt itself? The actual fabric on the front panel is this hoop stripe. This is a ventilation structure which is ventilating the players more so it’s basically designed to increase player performance and ventilation whilst they’re playing. There is engineered fabric on the front panel on the shirt that fans can buy, but the actual one the players wear will be the adizero, which is the lightest jersey we offer at adidas and is designed to make the players run faster and play faster. Is there anything different about the back of the shirt? We came up with a font specifically for United [for the name and number] which was inspired by the one worn on the 1982 jersey. The shape of it was very iconic and we really want to have a holistic look to the kit. Obviously in the Premier League, United will wear the Premier League fonts but this is more for European competition. We worked together with the club and they really liked the holistic package and the thought that went into everything in the jersey. The overall look of the kit was inspired by the 1982 jersey and re-imagined and, then again, the same with the font. We used that but turned it into something relevant and modern. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 1:53pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
pamcode: He's has just 1 season in Europe and performed poorly. Yet, he's worth 40m pounds. Barcelona bought Vidal from Sevilla for 7.5m pounds. Now Vidal is a back to back Europa champion. A competitionwhere SSterling failed woefully against Besiktas. Vidal doesn't need to play for a big club to prove his worth. Sterling's sale just shows how overrated epl is. Imagine Chelsea scoping Stones for 25m pounds. Who the hell is he? |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:53pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
leggo:Haha, i know am a lil bit late but ur term of ELEPHANT AND RABBIT is just down to pure ignorance of u trying to ridicule the EPL in anyway u can. Oya take a look at LaLiga. We ve Madrid and Barca. We can add Athletico to the mix but we all know dey'll never smell another LaLiga title in d nxt 10 yrs. Valencia and Sevilla are both Europa league products and shoyldn't even be considered. Bundesliga nko?? There is only one team. Dortmund tried to challenge dem. Hell they even did a double over Bayern. Buy two seasons later, Two of Dortmund's best players now play for Bayern. Dortmund is struggling to avoid relegation from Bundesliga. Now its Wolfsburg trying to mount a challenge. They did a double over Bayern, and even won DFB Pokal. Nxt season they'll probably reach quaters of the UCL and finish 2nd in Bundesliga while giving Bayern wahala all season. Then Bayern ll come and poach De Bruyne and two of their brst players and then Wolfsburg ll become obsolete. And Serie A?? Lol. The funniest of dem all. 1st it was Milan, Inter & Juve contending for the title every season. Then Juve cheats their way to the title. They get fined and even get relegated for it. Fast forward two seasons later and they re back lifting the Serie A. Now every season na only dem for Serie A. Inter is now obsolete, Milan is dead and gone, Napoli?? Lool. Or is it Ligue 1 where PSG had 7 penalties in 9 matches between March 1 and April 30 and their closet rivals who was topping the league den was having clean goals ruled out for offsides dat weren't even there. In EPL, there are 7 top teams all vying for a place in Europe while causing problems for each other in d process. And out of dat 7, dere are 4 contending for d title. So bruh, u need to think deep, reflect on some of ur points and take a look at other leagues b4 u call the EPL an Elephant and rabbit league. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 1:56pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Debroslink: so how come only 2 clubs have won the champions league in the history of la liga? where's the strength? if you remove barca and real madrid from the equation, la liga has no history in europe! EPL have 5 different champions league winners and it could have been more were they not banned from playing in europe between 1985 and 1990. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 1:58pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
coogar: Remove Barca and Madrid from UCL, and the competition loses its glory. Where are the epl teams in Europe if the league is really that strong? Remove barca and Madrid from Spain and place them in EPL. EPL will be worst than Scottish league. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 1:59pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
homesteady:Lineker can't tell the difference between strongest teams and strongest league. The fact that la liga contains the two best teams currently doesn't automatically mean they have the strongest league. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by homesteady(m): 2:00pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
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| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 2:01pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
Debroslink: madrid and barca would be like spurs and villa if they come to the EPL. the £150m TV money each of them get to buy suarez & neymar while their rivals get only £20m for the past 10 years would not wash in the EPL. this is exactly the point. madrid will not be able to afford the world class players they have always acquired if they were in the premier league. SIRcumalot: and this is the mistake most people make.... you have la liga where the top 2 teams have 95% pass mark, the 3rd best team has 80% and others have 30%. EPL have the top 4 teams at 85%, the other 16 teams at 70% each. which of the 2 leagues have the highest overall strength? even a kid of 5 would tell you EPL is the most competitive league in the world. |
| Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Debroslink: 2:03pm On Aug 01, 2015 |
coogar: So EPL is more competitive because dead clubs like N.Forest and Aston Villa have won it before? |
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