[b]It is amazing to see how many non-Muslims would blindly post the verses from Quran, without even reading from ‘appropriate’ and well-know translations. Needless to say they hardly ever know the context. In this article we will be examining commonly quoted verses on the topic of violence and refuting them. This article is divided in 2 parts:
1) Refuting commonly quoted verses on the topic of violence
2) Providing accurate picture of Islam

1)Refuting commonly quoted verses on the topic of violence

Quran 9:5
Islam-critics only post 9:5:
“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:5)

Let’s read the verse in context 9:1-9:5:
Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty. Travel freely in the land four months, and know that ye cannot escape Allah and that Allah will confound the disbelievers (in His Guidance). And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve, Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:1-5)

This verses is always quoted out of context, they never post 9:6 or from 9:1 to 9:6. If we read from start it states that there was a treaty, which the Pagans of Arab broke. Thus Allah gave them 4 months as 9:2 states in order to amend the treaty. Verse 9:4 states that the punishment prescribed in 9:5 is ONLY to those who broke the treaty and NOT to those who abided by the treaty. Therefore the context of 9:5 is of war with the pagan Arabs who broke the treaty yet refused to amend it in 4 months.

Naturally, in war violence is expected. If a war is declared between Country A and Country B, because country B broke the treaty and refused to amend, then if president of country A states “wherever you find soldiers of Country B, you kill them and besiege them”, no one would truly find much wrong in that statement.

Killing in war is nothing peculiar, and there is yet to be a war where soldiers hugged and kissed each other. In additions, Dr. Zakir Naik writes in his book “Replies to the most common questions asked by non-muslims“:

“4. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle
Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriqs [pagans] where ever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.”

Islam-critics remain shy of posting the next verse, 9:6, as it contains the answer to their deception:

“And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:6)

Quran does not only say that you release those who seek protection but it goes even further and states to protect them! [/b]

Source: https://norasensation./2008/10/16/misquoted-violent-verses-in-the-holy-quran/

cc: lalasticlala ishilove

[b]Quran 2:191
Islam-critics usually apply “cut and choose” approach with regards to this verse. They only quote: “And slay them wherever ye catch them…” (2:191). However, let us be brave enough to read the whole passage in context from 2:190-195:

Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves. And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good. (YUSUF ALI, Quran 2:190-195)

The verse clearly states to fight those who fight you, yet do not transgress limits. In so sense therefore does it promote killing of innocent but allows self-defence. It further goes on to state “And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice” and “if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression”. Hence, once again when the whole context is examined the verses does not promote killing of innocent in anyway.

Abdul Majid Daryabadi (Finlay, Greece Under the Romans, pp. 367-368) writes on verse 2:190:
“…Violating the truce they themselves had signed. The Muslims, after having borne untold persecution with almost superhuman fortitude for years and years at the hands of the pagans of Makkah, are now for the first time enjoined to take to reprisals. ‘For a full thirteen years the Muslims were subjected to relentless persecution in Mecca. The Prophet and his followers fled for life to Medina, but the enemy would not leave them alone in their refuge. They came to attack them within a year, and the first three battles were fought in the very locality which will whether the Prophet was an assailant or defendant’ (Headley, The Original Church of Jesus Christ and Islam, p. 155). The Makkans had signed a truce and were the first to break it…”

Once again when the whole context is examined the verses does not promote killing of innocents, whether muslims or non-muslims in anyway, but only self-defence.[/b]

[b] Quran 4:76
Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil’s strategy is ever weak. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 4:76)

Now, let’s read the verse in textual context:
Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward. How should ye not fight for the cause of Allah and (for the cause) of the feeble among men and of the women and the children who are crying: Our Lord! Bring us forth from out this town of which the people are oppressors! Oh, give us from thy presence some protecting friend! Oh, give us from Thy presence some defender! Those who believe do battle for the cause of Allah; and those who disbelieve do battle for the cause of idols. So fight the minions of the devil. Lo! the devil’s strategy is ever weak. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 4:74-76)

Verse 4:76 is specific to those who have been oppressed. In order to help those who cannot help themselves is indeed a great deed and to shun away tyranny and help those who are weak and oppressed. Islam-critics seek to present a view of violence and hate on behalf of Quran, however, when the verse is examined carefully in a correct context, their deceit is clearly exposed.

Dr. Maher Hathout (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.50) comments on verse 4:76 by saying:
This verse is related to the two preceding verses (see 4:74-75) where it was stated that those who fight for God’s cause would be rewarded whether they are victorious or slain. Fighting for God’s cause includes the liberation of the oppressed, meaning the helpless men and women who are yearning and praying for freedom. The believers fight for God’s cause, and the disbelievers fight for the sake of their idols. An idol may be taken conceptually. For example, evil or greed may figuratively be construed as idols. The believers should put all their trust in God the Almighty and Powerful and fear not the disbelievers and their evil plans. Evil plans are always inferior to goodness. (Hathout, Jihad vs. Terrorism; US Multimedia Vera International, 2002, p.50) [/b]

[b]Quran 47:4
If read with good translation and historical context in mind, no significant complaint can be found about 47:4. However, some non-muslims insist on using a very poor translation of Quran with additions. One such translation reads:

Qur’an 47:4 So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle, smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by God to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam .

However, almost all of the major translations are contrary to the above translation. Yusuf Ali’s translation reads:

Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost. (Yusuf Ali Translation, Quran 47:4)

Further translations can be checked out here. Nowhere does the accurate translations make any mention of 1)”killing and wounding” 2) “Thus are you commanded by God to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam”, those are additions of the translator’s and are not to be found in Quran.

According to Professor Shahul Hameed (http://www.islamonline.net/askaboutislam/display.asp?hquestionID=8922), historical context of this verse is Battle of Badr. He writes:

“The context of this verse was when the Muslims were to fight their enemies for their very existence. After thirteen years of endurance and patience, the prophet and his companions had to leave their home town of Makkah and to emigrate to Madinah. When the people of Madinah had welcomed him there and he was accepted as a leader there, the Makkans became unhappy. They wanted to eliminate Muhammad and his religion; and so they sent their army to root out Islam. And the crucial battle took place in Badr.”

Once again, the context is of war here and therefore killing of innocent people is not prescribed. Naturally, in war people would be expected to fight and kill, therefore “smite at their necks” is only natural.

Quran 33:23
Another poor translation of this verse commonly seen reads:
Qur’an 33:23 Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with God and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting ). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle.

More accurate and common translation reads:
Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah: of them some have completed their vow (to the extreme), and some (still) wait: but they have never changed (their determination) in the least: (YUSUF ALI Translation, Quran 33.23)

Critics have included “fighting and dying”, “prepared for death in battle” and their own interpretation to the verse. Ibn Kathir writes:

“When Allah mentions how the hypocrites broke their promise to Him that they would not turn their backs, He describes the believers as firmly adhering to their covenant and their promise:
([they] have been true to their covenant with Allah; of them some have fulfilled their Nahbah Some of [the Qur’anic commentators] said: “Met their appointed time (i.e., death).” Al-Bukhari said, “Their covenant, and refers back to the beginning of the Ayah.
(and some of them are still waiting, but they have never changed in the least.) means, they have never changed or broken their covenant with Allah. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)[/b]

you are the one misleading yourself, the words are crystal clear

Your post doesn't justify the message in anyway. It is still the same meaning. That if non-muslims speak against islam they should be killed. Thats exactly what the religion of piss practice till date

The two earlier responses to this post has clearly justified title of this topic. If that is how you are also reading your bible ( picking on words that best suit your thinking without really going to details of the intention of the person, persons or body making the speech), Then, you are not intelligent.
Mind you, you can only blindfold those who don't know their right from left against Islamic ideology, not the right thinkers.

The quran have said it all quran 2vs18, "there are deaf, dumb and blind. They are not to return". This simple implied that their ears, heart and eyes will never realises the truth. Op have really tried in shedding light to those controversial verses. Its now left to us all to make do with d relevant verses he posted.

kosby001:
The quran have said it all quran 2vs18, "there are deaf, dumb and blind. They are not to return". This simple implied that their ears, heart and eyes will never realises the truth. Op have really tried in shedding light to those controversial verses. Its now left to us all to make do with d relevant verses he posted.

Well said. JazakAllahu Khairan @op

JustPeace01:
[b]It is amazing to see how many non-Muslims would blindly post the verses from Quran, without even reading from ‘appropriate’ and well-know translations. Needless to say they hardly ever know the context. In this article we will be examining commonly quoted verses on the topic of violence and refuting them. This article is divided in 2 parts:
1) Refuting commonly quoted verses on the topic of violence
2) Providing accurate picture of Islam

1)Refuting commonly quoted verses on the topic of violence

Quran 9:5
Islam-critics only post 9:5:
“Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:5)

Let’s read the verse in context 9:1-9:5:
Freedom from obligation (is proclaimed) from Allah and His messenger toward those of the idolaters with whom ye made a treaty. Travel freely in the land four months, and know that ye cannot escape Allah and that Allah will confound the disbelievers (in His Guidance). And a proclamation from Allah and His messenger to all men on the day of the Greater Pilgrimage that Allah is free from obligation to the idolaters, and (so is) His messenger. So, if ye repent, it will be better for you; but if ye are averse, then know that ye cannot escape Allah. Give tidings (O Muhammad) of a painful doom to those who disbelieve, Excepting those of the idolaters with whom ye (Muslims) have a treaty, and who have since abated nothing of your right nor have supported anyone against you. (As for these), fulfil their treaty to them till their term. Lo! Allah loveth those who keep their duty (unto Him). Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:1-5)

This verses is always quoted out of context, they never post 9:6 or from 9:1 to 9:6. If we read from start it states that there was a treaty, which the Pagans of Arab broke. Thus Allah gave them 4 months as 9:2 states in order to amend the treaty. Verse 9:4 states that the punishment prescribed in 9:5 is ONLY to those who broke the treaty and NOT to those who abided by the treaty. Therefore the context of 9:5 is of war with the pagan Arabs who broke the treaty yet refused to amend it in 4 months.

Naturally, in war violence is expected. If a war is declared between Country A and Country B, because country B broke the treaty and refused to amend, then if president of country A states “wherever you find soldiers of Country B, you kill them and besiege them”, no one would truly find much wrong in that statement.

Killing in war is nothing peculiar, and there is yet to be a war where soldiers hugged and kissed each other. In additions, Dr. Zakir Naik writes in his book “Replies to the most common questions asked by non-muslims“:

“4. Verse 9:5 quoted to boost morale of Muslims during battle
Similarly in Surah Taubah chapter 9 verse 5 the Qur’an says, “Kill the Mushriqs [pagans] where ever you find them”, during a battle to boost the morale of the Muslim soldiers. What the Qur’an is telling Muslim soldiers is, don’t be afraid during battle; wherever you find the enemies kill them.”

Islam-critics remain shy of posting the next verse, 9:6, as it contains the answer to their deception:

“And if anyone of the idolaters seeketh thy protection (O Muhammad), then protect him so that he may hear the Word of Allah, and afterward convey him to his place of safety. That is because they are a folk who know not. (PICKTHAL Translation, Quran 9:6)

Quran does not only say that you release those who seek protection but it goes even further and states to protect them! [/b]

Source: https://norasensation./2008/10/16/misquoted-violent-verses-in-the-holy-quran/

cc: lalasticlala ishilove

What where the terms of the treaty ?
Who signed the treaty and when was it signed?.
Who broke them and when was it broken?
Are those verses applicable today or its just meant for that period and condition alone?.

JustPeace01 you are very good lying, open your eyes, fighting is prescribe for All muslims according to the quran dislike it mean you break the ruled of Allan:

Surah 2:216: Fighting is prescribed
for you , and ye dislike it. But it is
possible that you dislike a thing
which is good for you and that you
love a thing which is bad for you. But
God knoweth, and you know
not.” (Yusuf Ali)

Muslim apologists deceitfully lie that
Islamic wars are always defensive in
nature. The following Qur’anic verse
exposes this lie.

Surah 9:29: FIGHT THOSE WHO BELIEVE NOT IN ALLAH nor the Last Day, NOR
HOLD THAT FORBIDDEN WHICH HATH BEEN FORBIDDEN BY Allah AND HIS MESSENGERS , nor acknowledge the
religion of Truth, even if they are the
People of the Book, until they pay
the Jizya with willing submission
and feel themselves subdued. (Yusuf
Ali)

Notice, this Qur’anic verse does not
command Muslims to fight only those
who attack them but to “FIGHT THOSE WHO BELIEVE NOT IN ALLAH.” It also commands Muslims to fight all those who do not “HOLD THAT FORBIDDEN WHICH HATH BEEN FORBIDDEN BY Allah AND HIS MESSENGERS .” This means that if you do not forbid for yourselves that which was forbidden by Allah, such as the eating of pork, then Muslims have every right to fight you. Also, Muslims are commanded to fight all those who do not acknowledge Islam as “the religion of Truth.”

Do the words in Surah 9:29 sound like
Allah is commanding Muslims to fight
only defensive wars? Is it not crystal clear that it is an unmistakable commandment to wage offensive wars against all those who do not believe in Allah, Muhammad, islam or the teachings of the Qur’an?

Actually Surah 9:29 is a commandment
from Allah to fight the “People of the
Book.” The term, “People of the Book”

An infidel, who converts to Islam by
mistake or to escape death or
persecution at the hands of Muslims,
cannot thereafter leave Islam. Death is
the only Islamic way out!

Surah 4:89: They wish that you reject
Faith, as they have rejected Faith,
and thus that you all become equal
like one another. So take not
Auliya’ (protectors or friends) from
them, till they emigrate in the Way of
Allah (to Muhammad). But if they
turn back from Islam, take hold of
them and kill them wherever you
find them and take neither
Auliya’ (protectors or friends) nor
helpers from them.

kosby001:
The quran have said it all quran 2vs18, "there are deaf, dumb and blind. They are not to return". This simple implied that their ears, heart and eyes will never realises the truth. Op have really tried in shedding light to those controversial verses. Its now left to us all to make do with d relevant verses he posted.

Stop this kitman, fact remains that mohamed is islam's "best of mankind" and muslims are supposed to follow his footsteps. Now we know for a fact from authentic islamic sources that mohamed was a murderer, genocidal maniac, psychopath, armed robber, rapist, paedophile, adulterer, liar and terrorist. The quoran teaches muslims to strive to be like mohamed and in reality it is only islamic terror organisations like boko haram and isis that are practising islam like your megalomaniac prophet did so stop all this kitman and al taqquiya you are doing to make you evil quoran look good.

JustPeace01:
[b]Quran 2:191
Islam-critics usually apply “cut and choose” approach with regards to this verse. They only quote: “And slay them wherever ye catch them…” (2:191). However, let us be brave enough to read the whole passage in context from 2:190-195:

Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves. And spend of your substance in the cause of Allah, and make not your own hands contribute to (your) destruction; but do good; for Allah loveth those who do good. (YUSUF ALI, Quran 2:190-195)

The verse clearly states to fight those who fight you, yet do not transgress limits. In so sense therefore does it promote killing of innocent but allows self-defence. It further goes on to state “And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice” and “if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression”. Hence, once again when the whole context is examined the verses does not promote killing of innocent in anyway.

Abdul Majid Daryabadi (Finlay, Greece Under the Romans, pp. 367-368) writes on verse 2:190:
“…Violating the truce they themselves had signed. The Muslims, after having borne untold persecution with almost superhuman fortitude for years and years at the hands of the pagans of Makkah, are now for the first time enjoined to take to reprisals. ‘For a full thirteen years the Muslims were subjected to relentless persecution in Mecca. The Prophet and his followers fled for life to Medina, but the enemy would not leave them alone in their refuge. They came to attack them within a year, and the first three battles were fought in the very locality which will whether the Prophet was an assailant or defendant’ (Headley, The Original Church of Jesus Christ and Islam, p. 155). The Makkans had signed a truce and were the first to break it…”

Once again when the whole context is examined the verses does not promote killing of innocents, whether muslims or non-muslims in anyway, but only self-defence.[/b]

Let's look at facts
1. The pagans where the majority in mecca

2. They opprressed mphamed and moslims cus they where minority.
3. They believe there books and doctrine that their god(s) is the right god.

Now let's fastfoward to 2015
Muslims are the majority in mecca. Would I as a minority Christian be allowed to start My religious practise in mecca? What will they do to me if I start it?

JustPeace01:
[b]Quran 47:4
If read with good translation and historical context in mind, no significant complaint can be found about 47:4. However, some non-muslims insist on using a very poor translation of Quran with additions. One such translation reads:

Qur’an 47:4 So, when you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle, smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by God to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam .

However, almost all of the major translations are contrary to the above translation. Yusuf Ali’s translation reads:

Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), smite at their necks; At length, when ye have thoroughly subdued them, bind a bond firmly (on them): thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens. Thus (are ye commanded): but if it had been Allah’s Will, He could certainly have exacted retribution from them (Himself); but (He lets you fight) in order to test you, some with others. But those who are slain in the Way of Allah,- He will never let their deeds be lost. (Yusuf Ali Translation, Quran 47:4)

Further translations can be checked out here. Nowhere does the accurate translations make any mention of 1)”killing and wounding” 2) “Thus are you commanded by God to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam”, those are additions of the translator’s and are not to be found in Quran.

According to Professor Shahul Hameed (http://www.islamonline.net/askaboutislam/display.asp?hquestionID=8922), historical context of this verse is Battle of Badr. He writes:

“The context of this verse was when the Muslims were to fight their enemies for their very existence. After thirteen years of endurance and patience, the prophet and his companions had to leave their home town of Makkah and to emigrate to Madinah. When the people of Madinah had welcomed him there and he was accepted as a leader there, the Makkans became unhappy. They wanted to eliminate Muhammad and his religion; and so they sent their army to root out Islam. And the crucial battle took place in Badr.”

Once again, the context is of war here and therefore killing of innocent people is not prescribed. Naturally, in war people would be expected to fight and kill, therefore “smite at their necks” is only natural.

Quran 33:23
Another poor translation of this verse commonly seen reads:
Qur’an 33:23 Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with God and have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting ). Some have completed their vow to extreme and have been martyred fighting and dying in His Cause, and some are waiting, prepared for death in battle.

More accurate and common translation reads:
Among the Believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah: of them some have completed their vow (to the extreme), and some (still) wait: but they have never changed (their determination) in the least: (YUSUF ALI Translation, Quran 33.23)

Critics have included “fighting and dying”, “prepared for death in battle” and their own interpretation to the verse. Ibn Kathir writes:

“When Allah mentions how the hypocrites broke their promise to Him that they would not turn their backs, He describes the believers as firmly adhering to their covenant and their promise:
([they] have been true to their covenant with Allah; of them some have fulfilled their Nahbah Some of [the Qur’anic commentators] said: “Met their appointed time (i.e., death).” Al-Bukhari said, “Their covenant, and refers back to the beginning of the Ayah.
(and some of them are still waiting, but they have never changed in the least.) means, they have never changed or broken their covenant with Allah. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)[/b]

Why are there different translations?
As a Muslim, I'm I to discard those translation as false/wrong/fake?
Can we have a list of translations that are poor and the ones that are rich..... Sorry correct and accurate, so we can know which one to read?

Rilwayne001:
OP, thank you for this. I just hope the the bigot will accept the truth for what it is and stop supporting the fanatics.

Mr Rilwayne! Wassap! long time!

How have you been? I wanted to get Eid ram from you but I forgot!

Anyway, I need your contribution on this post https://www.nairaland.com/2496196/what-it-mean-religion-when

And the op should stop referring to the quoran as holy as there is nothing holy about that evil terror manuscript

Non-muslims

Well, I've done my part. May Allah reward us on our good deeds and forgive us of our transgressions. #Ameen

@ OP

What is the context of the following verses?

1.
Quran (3:56) - "As to THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH, I will punish them with terrible agony IN THIS WORLD and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

2.
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

3.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE.Therefore STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS and STRIKE OFF every FINGERTIPS of them"

4.
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) AND RELIGION SHOULD BE ONLY for Allah"

truthman2012:
@ OP

What is the context of the following verses?

1.
Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony IN THIS WORLD and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

2.
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

3.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE.Therefore STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS and STRIKE OFF every FINGERTIPS of them"

4.
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) AND RELIGION SHOULD BE ONLY for Allah"

Yes oh the OP must tell us the exact context of the violent verses above and explain to us why it is irrelevant to muslims today.

truthman2012:
@ OP

What is the context of the following verses?

1.
Quran (3:56) - "As to THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH, I will punish them with terrible agony IN THIS WORLD and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

2.
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

3.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE.Therefore STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS and STRIKE OFF every FINGERTIPS of them"

4.
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) AND RELIGION SHOULD BE ONLY for Allah"

3:56 very specifically states “in this world and in the Hereafter”. Strike one.

Yes, Allah will punish in this world too. But it is nowhere ordering Muslims to go around carrying out a punishment. Strike one.

3:151 also doesn’t mean in the afterlife, but I’m aware of some debate over this.

If you don’t believe in Allah, then you should have no problem with this deity casting terror into your hearts. Again, nowhere is it ordering Muslims to do anything. It’s irrelevant to this discussion. Strike two.

truthman2012:
@ OP

What is the context of the following verses?

1.
Quran (3:56) - "As to THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH, I will punish them with terrible agony IN THIS WORLD and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

2.
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

3.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE.Therefore STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS and STRIKE OFF every FINGERTIPS of them"

4.
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) AND RELIGION SHOULD BE ONLY for Allah"

8.12 Remember thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I am with you:
give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers:
smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them."

This verse and the verses before and after were revealed about the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the city of Makkah. And now that they had fled Makkah and found a sanctuary in the city of Madinah, they were once again threatened. Muslim Army was only about 300 strong. God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to fight to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims. It was a war to defend themselves and their Faith. It was a war imposed upon Muslims.

And when you fight, you strive to kill the enemy during the fight.
However, even during the war, Islam has the highest moral law of war. You don't kill children, women or any one who is not fighting with you.

AllNaijaBlogger:



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JustPeace01:
Non-muslims

Well, I've done my part. May Allah reward us on our good deeds and forgive us of our transgressions. #Ameen

Ameen jazakallahu kheir.

Rilwayne001:


My good friend allnaijablogger, I am good. How have you been bro?



Lol. I'm good bro. Another eid is coming up in october, so don't worry, ram meat will be available for you then.



Okay nah.

October ram coming

[b]You also don't fight, if the enemy wants a peace treaty:
008.061 But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards
peace, and trust in Allah: for He is One that hears and knows (all things).
God Almighty also says in Chapter 60:
060.008 Allah forbids you not, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) Faith
nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for Allah
loves those who are just.

060.009 Allah only forbids you, with regard to those who fight you for (your) Faith,
and drive you out of your homes, and support (others) in driving you out, from
turning to them (for friendship and protection). It is such as turn to them (in these
circumstances), that do wrong.

For the ignorant, misquotation is a habit they enjoy. Misquoting the Holy Quran is a sin and a shame for the one who commits such an act, as God says in the Quran:
Behold! how they invent a lie against Allah! but that by itself is a manifest sin! [The Holy Quran,4:50]
And He says:
Who does more wrong than those who invent a lie against Allah? They will be turned back to the presence of their Lord, and the witnesses will say, "These are the ones who lied against their Lord! Behold! The curse of Allah is on those who do wrong! [The Holy Quran,11:18]
[/b]

truthman2012:
@ OP

What is the context of the following verses?

1.
Quran (3:56) - "As to THOSE WHO REJECT FAITH, I will punish them with terrible agony IN THIS WORLD and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

2.
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

3.
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of THOSE WHO DISBELIEVE.Therefore STRIKE OFF THEIR HEADS and STRIKE OFF every FINGERTIPS of them"

4.
Quran (8:39) - "And fight with them until there is no more fitna (disorder, unbelief) AND RELIGION SHOULD BE ONLY for Allah"

Do U still need explanations for no.4??
Also try read all without rush and get the gist.

JustPeace01:


Do U still need explanations for no.4??
Also try read all without rush and get the gist.

Al taqquiya expert please explain number 4.

JustPeace01:



3:56 very specifically states “in this world and in the Hereafter”. Strike one.

Yes, Allah will punish in this world too. But it is nowhere ordering Muslims to go around carrying out a punishment. Strike one.

3:151 also doesn’t mean in the afterlife, but I’m aware of some debate over this.

If you don’t believe in Allah, then you should have no problem with this deity casting terror into your hearts. Again, nowhere is it ordering Muslims to do anything. It’s irrelevant to this discussion. Strike two.

And why is your allah so insecure that he needs to threaten people with punishment and torment to get them to worship him?

JustPeace01:
Non-muslims

Well, I've done my part. May Allah reward us on our good deeds and forgive us of our transgressions. #Ameen

So you are not going to answer my. Simple questions?!!

Can't you see.... These religions are man made, just like the christian storybook...... Why does the book preaches love and promote hate at the same time


I was a faithful muslim... I once bought this theory,I was always skeptical about the hadith...... So I read and this writers were trying to justify evil vices

I read the story of the *noble* prophet and looked for citations in the hadith...... All his actions were not frowned upon

I didn't see anything wrong with him being a warlord but then he killled infidels and took their wives for himself and his followers...... What kind of woman will allow you fu*k her willingly after killing her soulmate

There is a verse that clearly allows one to have (sex) with the ones their right hand possess(slaves)...... Common, this is absurd...... taking advantage of women you captured


The truth is if I have to be a muslim.... I have to accept both the good and evil deeds of Muhammed as holy and justified...... I can't live with that...


Religion is not from the just God

Hmmmm.

Now No 4 is the continuation of No 3.

The translation you presented says 'until there is more ' fitna (disorder, unbelief) this means when non believers stop persecution stop fighting with them.

While someone else translated it as

And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do