huangcheng:


When i saw your reply i thought you were going to say something logical but i was wrong. How does situating a REFINERY up North facilitate the distribution of refined products? Now this is why i said the average Hausa-Fulani is incapable of complex reasoning. Lagos does not have any refinery but it gets more petroleum product than Kaduna. Imo, Anambra, Ogun does not have refineries but they get more refined petroleum products than Kaduna.

You build tank farms strategically across the country not refineries dunderhead. BTW you did not answer all my questions.

Sorry, but how do you then get the refined products to the tank farms?

more4rm9ja:
you will not take more than what you own, that I can assure you.

and who decides what biafrans own. You? a yorubber from Osunistan with a fulani Islamic emirate on his land or a diseased fulani from futa djallon with his leprous worthless cattles. hahahaha! If you think Biafrans are waiting for fulani or yorobbers to endorse Biafra, then you are high on sheep sh!!Ts. You obviously don't listen to the number 1 radio in the world. Radio Biafra. Our strategy is an open secret.The powers that created zoogeria in the first place will see to its dissolution very soon. I laugh in funtua!

zuchyblink:
oil money sweet o! This is the Alakija of Bayelsa
and this young man has the biggest offshore oil well in Africa

My people perish for ignorance. Are the Igbos the ones looting your treasury?

Fulamafia:
So the new strategy is to mock and attempt to belittle the SS so they can join Biafra?

It's funny how you people think you can convince the SS that they will have the better deal they deserve under the Ibos. The truth is that they have an inalienable right to independently determine their future if they choose to leave.

Let the SS have their independent nation. Period.

Why do you want SS to remain in Nigeria? You surfaced because you know is something that has to do with SS isn't it?

huangcheng:


Actually, you're bereft of complex reasoning capability so you're trying to abscond from the discussion. I understand and i won't try to hold you back, come on, what can a man do when 90% of his brain is used for memorizing the Q'uaran while the remaining 10% is for carrying out Jihad?

Gerrarahere!!

guy you are badt!

huangcheng:


Oga Fulani, let me please ask you these questions that have been throbbing my mind since i was a boy. I haven't been lucky enough to meet a Fulani man personally so since i was lucky to find you here, i could as well just drop my questions.

What is an oil refinery doing in the North?
What is a gas power plant doing in the North?
Of what economic sense is the laying of gas pipeline that stretches over 600km to refine a product that should have been done closer to its source.

Don't you see that your leaders are evil people who deserve nothing less than being hanged by their balls. Your Emirs and politicians have been a bottleneck to the development of Nigeria. For example,

* The energy required to transport crude oil to a distance of over 600km is enough to power the whole street lights in Lagos.

* The cost of laying gas pipeline from Bayelsa to Kaduna can build another coal power plant with a capacity of 100 MW.

* The amount of time lost to inefficiency when transporting a product 600km before refining is enough to produce 2 times the volume of the said product.

* The risk of vandalism and total cost of repair of vandalized pipeline when accidents occur in the course of transporting crude oil to the North since 1970 can build a mini refinery with a capacity of 100,000 BPD.

The truth is your fulani leaders cannot be said to be the brightest people in a room but why they struggle so hard to be in power beats me. People with low IQ shouldn't be allowed anywhere close to the seat of power. History has it that countries ruled by dunderheads end up a disaster and you don't have to look further, just look at Northerners 38 years rule of Nigeria.

Oh! What a wonderful piece. How I wish the citizens of this damnation will reason.

Yoruba people creating hate threads all over the place, these people don't have anything to boast off rather than spread hate speech all ovr the place

ekenedegreat:
My people perish for ignorance. Are the Igbos the ones looting your treasury?

it is the deadly trio of hausa-fulani-yoruba

dearpreye:


There was no way both Ken and Boro could have had their ways. That would have amounted to a travesty of justice. These people played no little role in the massacre of the Igbos. I'm so happy the same people on whose side they fought against the Igbos, killed them both.

The faster and earlier the ND or whatever it called works together with the SE the better for them. The SS is still sleeping, and the sons of Uthman Dan Fodio are ensuring they keep sleeping.

Not only the sons of Uthman Dan Fodio that are ensuring this The yo-robbers are also on this.

IGBOSON1:
It's representations like this that make me hate this country! I think a decade more of this blatant cheating and there'll be no way back for these people anymore: not only will oil become less attractive and costly, but by then their reserves would have been completely raped and finished in the name of 'federal one Nigeria'!

then we can start making real money not this coins we're making from oil.
enter the gas age. yeah baby

huangcheng:


Oga Fulani, let me please ask you these questions that have been throbbing my mind since i was a boy. I haven't been lucky enough to meet a Fulani man personally so since i was lucky to find you here, i could as well just drop my questions.

What is an oil refinery doing in the North?
What is a gas power plant doing in the North?
Of what economic sense is the laying of gas pipeline that stretches over 600km to refine a product that should have been done closer to its source.

Don't you see that your leaders are evil people who deserve nothing less than being hanged by their balls. Your Emirs and politicians have been a bottleneck to the development of Nigeria. For example,

* The energy required to transport crude oil to a distance of over 600km is enough to power the whole street lights in Lagos.

* The cost of laying gas pipeline from Bayelsa to Kaduna can build another coal power plant with a capacity of 100 MW.

* The amount of time lost to inefficiency when transporting a product 600km before refining is enough to produce 2 times the volume of the said product.

* The risk of vandalism and total cost of repair of vandalized pipeline when accidents occur in the course of transporting crude oil to the North since 1970 can build a mini refinery with a capacity of 100,000 BPD.

The truth is your fulani leaders cannot be said to be the brightest people in a room but why they struggle so hard to be in power beats me. People with low IQ shouldn't be allowed anywhere close to the seat of power. History has it that countries ruled by dunderheads end up a disaster and you don't have to look further, just look at Northerners 38 years rule of Nigeria.

Your questions are an easy puzzle if you can answer the following.

What is an oil refinery doing in many countries that do not produce crude oil?

What is the importance of the location of the buying consumer versus the location of the raw material?

How do you suggest the many individual fractions of the crude oil if actually refined in the South, should be transported to the North where the buying consumers are located?

Is the Kaduna refinery operated by the state government or by the same federal government agency that operates the refineries in the South?

Are the staffing needs of the Kaduna refinery subject to the federal character principles the other refineries in the South are also subject to?

Are the refined products from Kaduna refinery meant for consumption in the North or in the South?

What is the risk and cost of vandalism for 1pipeline of crude oil versus many pipelines of individual crude oil fractions?

lonngmann:


Is that funny?
We should be sad as a country because there are hundreds to thousands of her kind in the creeks

And somebody wants me to believe that Jonathan performed well. No way.

pheliciti:


Sorry, but how do you then get the refined products to the tank farms?

How do you get yam, ground oil, rice etc from North to the South?
How do you get refined products from Lagos to Kano?

That's when transport infrastructure comes in not building REFINERIES in far away North, it beats every economic logic. As a matter of fact, there is no need for a tank farm in the North, a working refinery in SS with an efficient railway system can easily service the Northern petroleum need.

Nuff said.

AlPeter:


so according to u only hausas and Yorubas are in apc right? SMH, pdp spent the best of 16years looting this country and the ACN leadership decided to form an alliance to get rid of the stinking rot that is killing the Nation and you are here crying over that am from the south south and am astounded that someone claiming agbor could have such distorted view. This thread was created by the agitators of Biafra to mock the SS and you are here typing thrash? Either you are tooyoung or you are living about where you are from

what about the 5%ers?? Aren't there yorubas and hausas among them? Yet ur president will 'deal' with them together with the rest... Anyway, am just stating my view cos am tired of yorubas trying to become south south spokesmen...come to Bayelsa and see the agitation to bring dis sh*t down... Am no kid..Thanks...

This debate strong...

On one side we have d Biafrans/SS....
on the oda side we have the yorubas/Fulani

I just d read/watch...... pipo r really pained in this country....

zuchyblink:
it is the deadly trio of hausa-fulani-yoruba

That's it!!

huangcheng:


How do you get yam, ground oil, rice etc from North to the South?
How do you get refined products from Lagos to Kano?

That's when transport infrastructure comes in not building REFINERIES in far away North, it beats every economic logic. As a matter of fact, there is no need for a tank farm in the North, a working refinery in SS with an efficient railway system can easily service the Northern petroleum need.

Nuff said.

The pipelines are actually transport infrastructure. This is what you fail to see in your hubris. Except if you prefer rail or road transport for crude oil. In which case by your logic, it would be better to transport water from the waterworks to your house using water tankers rather than laying pipelines to your house.
As an aside, when you think majority people are stupid for following a particular course of action, always think again before abusing them; you might actually be the one needing more education.

huangcheng:
My God!! This cannot happen anywhere in Igbo land. Never! Mba!! It will be resisted vehemently.

Same way,erosion is resisted vehemently in the east. All this eastern ppl sef. Shior.

ayokellany:


This is another level of tomfoolery.

[size=16pt]You mean Aguiyi Ironsi was naive by killing the prime minister 'Abubakar Balewa' and Ahmadu Bello both notherners n heartlessly dumping Ahmadu Bello's lifeless body by the roadside on the street of Lagos ? [/size]

How about if Nigeria had retaliated killing Ojukwu and Nnamdi Azikiwe like Samuel Doe ? Trouble go sidon you go find am start shouting murder. Others should just watch you kill their leaders at the same time boast about it. Na only una sabi do coup. Why not orchestrate a new coup to realize Biafra or when you slaughtered Abubakar Balewa' and Ahmadu Bello in cold blood the Hausa/Fulani agitated for HausaFra or FulaniFra ?

I wonder what part of history some of you Biafrans actually read.

Foolery or tomfoolery is when a grown up could not make sense out of present day events, such as knowing that Ironsi did not kill Balewa or Bello. It a present day event because account of the first coup that claimed these lives are all over the place, and you should have known better than muddle up historical events for your selfish conclusion.

FYI, those people were killed in a coup led by Nzeogwu. Ironsi, Ojukwu, and other senior officers arrested the coup plotters and jailed them. Ironsi died, because like GEJ, he trusted northern army officers more than his own people, or let's say he was simply naive, thinking that everybody had enough sense to be fair. Gowon was his principal secretary, with a corp of junior officers led by Danjuma as his security detail. Six months after Balewa and others died in the first coup, Ironsi's junior officers led a second coup claiming to avange the death of northerners killed by igbo officers.
Just like Ironsi, GEJ surrounded himself with northerners, from Dasuki(who later confessed to helping Buhari win), to Gusau, to IBB. Adulsalm Abubukar and his so-called peace committee forced GEJ to make the concession phone call. If GEJ had read history, he would not have been surprised at what's going on today.

IGBOSON1:
It's representations like this that make me hate this country! I think a decade more of this blatant cheating and there'll be no way back for these people anymore: not only will oil become less attractive and costly, but by then their reserves would have been completely raped and finished in the name of 'federal one Nigeria'!

What development have your governors in the South East brought their people, or you want to blame Hausas and Yorubas for that too?

p.s: Oil is already unattractive . And, its been so for almost 2yrs now.

naijaking1:


Foolery or tomfoolery is when a grown up could not make sense out of present day events, such as knowing that Ironsi did not kill Balewa or Bello. It a present day event because account of the first coup that claimed these lives are all over the place, and you should have known better than muddle up historical events for your selfish conclusion.

FYI, those people were killed in a coup led by Nzeogwu. Ironsi, Ojukwu, and other senior officers arrested the coup plotters and jailed them. Ironsi died, because like GEJ, he trusted northern army officers more than his own people, or let's say he was simply naive, thinking that everybody had enough sense to be fair. Gowon was his principal secretary, with a corp of junior officers led by Danjuma as his security detail. Six months after Balewa and others died in the first coup, Ironsi's junior officers led a second coup claiming to avange the death of northerners killed by igbo officers.
Just like Ironsi, GEJ surrounded himself with northerners, from Dasuki(who later confessed to helping Buhari win), to Gusau, to IBB. Adulsalm Abubukar and his so-called peace committee forced GEJ to make the concession phone call. If GEJ had read history, he would not have been surprised at what's going on today.

Wrong! Stop rewriting history, you bloody, lying Arrow.

1. After the coup in which Igbo officers killed all the Northerners in line for the throne, the Acting President (Nwafor Orizu) refused to swear in Zanna Dipcharima as Prime Minister just because he was from the North. Instead, Orizu chose to hand over power to the military which was headed by Aguiyi Ironsi, a fellow Igbo.

2. When Ironsi took power, instead of executing the coup plotters, he flew them to the East of Nigeria where they were hidden away and kept in relative comfort.

3. The United States, and not the Abdul-Salam led committee, pressured GEJ into conceding with threats of dragging him to the ICCJ if Nigeria went up in flames.

ISpiksDaTroof:


Wrong! Stop rewriting history, you bloody, lying Arrow.

1. After the coup in which Igbo officers killed all the Northerners in line for the throne, the Acting President (Nwafor Orizu) refused to swear in Zanna Dipcharima as Prime Minister just because he was from the North. Instead, Orizu chose to hand over power to the military which was headed by Aguiyi Ironsi, a fellow Igbo.

2. When Ironsi took power, instead of executing the coup plotters, he flew them to the East of Nigeria where they were hidden away and kept in relative comfort.

3. The United States, and not the Abdul-Salam led committee, pressured GEJ into conceding with threats of dragging him to the ICCJ if Nigeria went up in flames.

Conjectures, hypothesis, and conspiration theories: that's all you have in order to make your illogical jump to the wrong conclusion.
Without rehearsing the already worn out theories as to why the Nigerian government stood bye when millions of innocent and unconnected Igbos were massacred by your kinsmen, you will next tell me that Igbos were singing Ewun'eba akwa song after Sarduana was killed, as a justification for the maasacre, but you know better.
Unfortunately, Ironsi, just like GEJ was oblivious of such trinalistic upside down reasoning.

Fulamafia:
So the new strategy is to mock and attempt to belittle the SS so they can join Biafra?

It's funny how you people think you can convince the SS that they will have the better deal they deserve under the Ibos. The truth is that they have an inalienable right to independently determine their future if they choose to leave.

Let the SS have their independent nation. Period.

So you think it is Rocket science for the SS man to realise it is much better share his oil wealth with only one Geo-political zone than 5? Aside from that, the bigger question is, how will the SS zone ever get their own country?

dearpreye:


There was no way both Ken and Boro could have had their ways. That would have amounted to a travesty of justice. These people played no little role in the massacre of the Igbos. I'm so happy the same people on whose side they fought against the Igbos, killed them both.

The faster and earlier the ND or whatever it called works together with the SE the better for them. The SS is still sleeping, and the sons of Uthman Dan Fodio are ensuring they keep sleeping.

They have woken up


The March 28 election just helped them to know their true enemies who are desperately trying to break the strengthened alliance between SS and SE.

Fulamafia:


You are rather unintelligent to reach such conclusions. To highlight your myopic perspective, explain to me how it not strategic to situate a refinery up north to facilitate the distribution of refined products.

With regard to intelligence, I'm tempted to tell you you are no match for the Fulani civilization which predates this country, except for the existence of studies which show that all Africans fall within a narrow IQ belt.

Western education is not IQ. Ask yourself how the Fulani have been the grandmasters of every political chess game in this country.

Back to the topic.

It is the Yoruba treachery that makes you fulanis appear wise Eg

Afonja

Akintola

Awo

Mko

Etc

pheliciti:

The pipelines are actually transport infrastructure. This is what you fail to see in your hubris. Except if you prefer rail or road transport for crude oil. In which case by your logic, it would be better to transport water from the waterworks to your house using water tankers rather than laying pipelines to your house.
As an aside, when you think majority people are stupid for following a particular course of action, always think again before abusing them; you might actually be the one needing more education.

Tap water is your analogy now? Wonderful!! Please do they build waterworks 600km from its extraction point? Do they also run pipelines from the refinery to you home? It is rather unfortunate that you'll compare tap water and oil just to make an illogical point seem logical. So how do you then transport refined products from Kaduna REFINERY to the FILLING STATION? Pipelines too!!

I don't know if you've ever done any real business in your life but you sound very naive. America and Canada does not build their refineries 600km away from extraction points, and countries without oil build their refineries close to the sea for easy transport. Petroleum is refined close to its source and transported via pipeline, rails, trucks and boats with pipeline taking short distances while rail does the long haul. Unless it is being transported across border.

Pick up a book and read how sane societies refine and transport petroleum distillates and stop trying to justify stupidity.

[b][/b]DAMN...This country is not united at all, and its not deniable. Is it that small picture that have brought up the entire Nigerian history and arguments about marginalization?

Damn...we the youths of Nigeria need to start thinking and raise a revolution over the status quo of this country instead of cursing and blaming on social media thinking it will change anything.

May God help Nigeria.

huangcheng:


Tap water is your analogy now? Wonderful!! Please do they build waterworks 600km from its extraction point? Do they also run pipelines from the refinery to you home? It is rather unfortunate that you'll compare tap water and oil just to make an illogical point seem logical. So how do you then transport refined products from Kaduna REFINERY to the FILLING STATION? Pipelines too!!

I don't know if you've ever done any real business in your life but you sound very naive. America and Canada does not build their refineries 600km away from extraction points, and countries without oil build their refineries close to the sea for easy transport. Petroleum is refined close to its source and transported via pipeline, rails, trucks and boats with pipeline taking short distances while rail does the long haul. Unless it is being transported across border.

Pick up a book and read how sane societies refine and transport petroleum distillates and stop trying to justify stupidity.

Continue to wallow in your folly. No use arguing with your opinion of yourself as the wisest in the land.

pheliciti:

Continue to wallow in your folly. No use arguing with your opinion of yourself as the wisest in the land.

I'm open to a debate. If you have any opinion contrary to mine feel free to write it out so we can debate on it, just don't try to justify a senseless economic decision. Building a refinery in Kaduna and laying pipeline 600km away from the source of extraction was a stupid, irrational and tribalistic political decision. Nothing justifies robbing the ND people of their jobs after polluting their only source of living - Fishing, thereby sacrificing efficiency, time and scarce monetary resources on the alter of "One Nigeria"

I'll be waiting for a counter argument in this regard.

Call a spade a spade!!! SS has been milked for centuries and little has gone back to region. If this oil was found in the north the Bayeltsan will begging to get even Kerosene to cook! Rubbish!

Fulamafia:
So the new strategy is to mock and attempt to belittle the SS so they can join Biafra?

It's funny how you people think you can convince the SS that they will have the better deal they deserve under the Ibos. The truth is that they have an inalienable right to independently determine their future if they choose to leave.

Let the SS have their independent nation. Period.

IbnSultaan:
PDP FAILED N/D
PMB HAS ORDERED CLEAN UP OF N/D

Apart from clean up what else has these regions enjoyed by way if development and compensations for the all the Billions they have raised and still raising for Nigeria. ??

North has been in power far longer... . and Nigeria is so backward largely because of long military rule by northerners who had no good intention for the country but themselves and cronies. The whole system had been repeatedly raped by the north. Jonathans 6 years would not have done much and him self was busy trying to please every other region leaving out his own which indeed was stupid of him, there is no one Nigeria for now. This country is nothing but fraud

sweetgala:


What does this have to do with the north , is it the north that has been in power the last 6 years, or was it the north that collected billions in amnester money every month. What happens to the billions voted to the ND ministry.

See the river she is in, but it was a northerners who thought the long overdue cleanup should not be delayed any further