Hope you have changed church if not you are on a looong thing

Debeloved87:
My pastor's marriage crashed last year, thou the marriage produced children and the parting seems unreconcilable even thou i think it fell on domestic issues and also the fact that the wife doesn't really flow with the pastoral call of the husband as her pastor husband wish her to.

Recently the man of God was talking about it and he said that he will take a new wife very soon anytime he is ready, and he ask us whether its scriptural but we just giggled and he told us that it is scriptural that we should open the book of 1 corinthians 7:14-15 "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband, else where your children unclean but now are they holy; but if the unbelieving depart,let him depart, a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:but God has called us to peace...

This actually was a little bit confusing to me, since the wife in question wasn't an unbeliever... Is my pastor right with his assertions?

your pastor is an unbeliever. Not everyone who says Lord, Lord.. ...

As a non-christian but as a Hebrew of the Hebrews, a man is allowed to marry as many women as he pleases, the law made provisions for that without putting away your Wife.

Debeloved87:
My pastor's marriage crashed last year, thou the marriage produced children and the parting seems unreconcilable even thou i think it fell on domestic issues and also the fact that the wife doesn't really flow with the pastoral call of the husband as her pastor husband wish her to.

Recently the man of God was talking about it and he said that he will take a new wife very soon anytime he is ready, and he ask us whether its scriptural but we just giggled and he told us that it is scriptural that we should open the book of 1 corinthians 7:14-15 "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband, else where your children unclean but now are they holy; but if the unbelieving depart,let him depart, a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:but God has called us to peace...

This actually was a little bit confusing to me, since the wife in question wasn't an unbeliever... Is my pastor right with his assertions?

Your Pastor na confirmed guy man. signs of end times.

Debeloved87:
My pastor's marriage crashed last year, thou the marriage produced children and the parting seems unreconcilable even thou i think it fell on domestic issues and also the fact that the wife doesn't really flow with the pastoral call of the husband as her pastor husband wish her to.

Recently the man of God was talking about it and he said that he will take a new wife very soon anytime he is ready, and he ask us whether its scriptural but we just giggled and he told us that it is scriptural that we should open the book of 1 corinthians 7:14-15 "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband, else where your children unclean but now are they holy; but if the unbelieving depart,let him depart, a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:but God has called us to peace...

This actually was a little bit confusing to me, since the wife in question wasn't an unbeliever... Is my pastor right with his assertions?

. In tubaba's voice..."Unscrupulous pastor"

well I would say that what is ur biz? are u his judge on judgement day. y not face ur own. we all shall stand before the judgement throne of the Almighty and Jesus will judge. if God gives him the Scripture for him to marry. what is ur biz, ? have u finished obeying all God told you for you to deliberate on others righteousness . Judge not that u may not be judge.

In Matthew 18:15-17, Jesus teaches that a believer who now behaves like an unbeliever and refuses to change after several warnings/admonition should be treated like an unbeliever. So if a spouse becomes an agent of the devil and refuses to change, 1st Cor.7:15 will apply. Let the unbelieving depart. If he or she refuses, then 2nd Cor.6:14 applies (be not unequally yoked with unbelievers). God hates divorce, but even under the strict Mosaic Law, He permitted it (Deuteronomy 24:1-2). Even Prov. 21:19 says, "It is better to dwell in the wilderness, than with a contentious and an angry woman." I therefore submit that under the New Testament, adultery is not the only ground for divorce. That is why Paul said the unbelieving can depart. Jesus only specified adultery because He was talking to the Jews about the Mosaic law, not to the Church.

It is morally and spiritually wrong for the pastor to take such decision.
The pastor is the Shepard that is supposed to watch over his sheep's and even counsel those going astray. The congregation should fast and intercede for the man of God because his decision is led by flesh which may lead to him loosing his flocks.
My worry goes out to young couples and the old passing through marriage challenges,what advice will the pastor give such people when they need advice on marriage problems?
God does not permit divorce and remarrying when both spouses are still alive.

abatically:


See this is the problem with most Christians. I asked a simple question and u are trying to dodge it.

I will still go back to ur previous post


And this was my question to u since u are certain the mog was deceiving the op .
If u want to go by that, then I have a simple question for u.



Please answer the above question first if u want me to go by ur logic that God would have created an extra wife for Adam. If u don't have an answer to that then just shut up because there's no way u can convince me.

As to your first question, the Bible just mentioned in Gen. 1:17 that Cain knew his wife and they conceive a son called Enoch... No sister was mentioned or was Adam said to have slept with his sister or Daughters God does His things the way He wants it and who can question His ways? If you are so bent on arguing further with me don't. As a matter of fact why don't you ask God yourself? Because the last time I checked it wasn't me that wrote the Bible and I wasn't there during the creation of mankind... I just gave my opinion on the matter and you are here asking me questions that even my grandpa and as a matter of fact your grandpa can't answer...
And lastly I haven't invited you to quote me so you are the one who should shut up and there is one of the nairalander signature that is applicable to you which says " hey look at what I found, your NOSE in my business".
Lay off me!!!

Gombs:


Not in general... But he can't take another wife, until the other is dead.

He can take another wife IF and only if he divorced the first on grounds of infidelity...else, he's on his way to doom.

I disagree with you @Gombs.
Jesus pointed out to fornication as the basis for divorce. It's not possible for a married man to commit fornication since it'll otherwise be called "adultery".
Now, I did my little research on that particular issue because it was really confusing. My probe into Jewish culture revealed that even at the stage of espousal (courtship), a couple could be referred to as man and his wife.
So, I believe, that the divorce Jesus meant is the breakaway in a Pre-wedding courtship on the basis of infidelity.

Be careful! Even satan quotes scriptures. Remember when he tried using part of psalm 91 to deceive Jesus? Seek the holy spirit to give you wisdom on this matter. Although I advice you leave that congregation for your own growth.

Ybnm4life:

As to your first question, the Bible just mentioned in Gen. 1:17 that Cain knew his wife and they conceive a son called Enoch... No sister was mentioned or was Adam said to have slept with his sister or Daughters God does His things the way He wants it and who can question His ways? If you are so bent on arguing further with me don't. As a matter of fact why don't you ask God yourself? Because the last time I checked it wasn't me that wrote the Bible and I wasn't there during the creation of mankind... I just gave my opinion on the matter and you are here asking me questions that even my grandpa and as a matter of fact your grandpa can't answer...
And lastly I haven't invited you to quote me so you are the one who should shut up and there is one of the nairalander signature that is applicable to you which says " hey look at what I found, your NOSE in my business".
Lay off me!!!

Lol. U are still dodging the question . don't worry, its understandable because nobody really knows the answer. The moral is u don't judge. Believe in what u believe but u have no right to call a mog fake. Ur opinion was that divorce is not allowed because God didn't create another woman for Adam but only eve.

Ok accepted. So then who did adam and Eve's offsprings marry if God didn't create any other person other than Adam and Eve?

U are condemning polygany, but king Solomon was the wisest man, how many wives did he marry? How many concubines did he have? I know what ur answer is already. U will tell me its in this old testament. Ok fine. So why is it that whenever my pastors wants to collect tithe they always read from the book of Malachi. Last time I checked, Malachi is in the old testament. That same old testament that Solomon married 300 wives. Why scrap some and leave some, why not scrap the whole of the old testament then?

This just confirms my point, the bible is the most complex and contradictory book. Christians just choose the ones that favor them and scrap the rest.

fromnigeria:

How come your pastor consults you with issues like this...

Anyways he is very very very wrong.
You put away your wife or husband for the sole reason of infidelity

he didn't consult me . he spoke it outrightly during the church weekly service.. you said he is wrong but the wife is not willing to come back and he's still a man with feelings and emotions, so how is he going to do it then

Debeloved87:
My pastor's marriage crashed last year, thou the marriage produced children and the parting seems unreconcilable even thou i think it fell on domestic issues and also the fact that the wife doesn't really flow with the pastoral call of the husband as her pastor husband wish her to.

Recently the man of God was talking about it and he said that he will take a new wife very soon anytime he is ready, and he ask us whether its scriptural but we just giggled and he told us that it is scriptural that we should open the book of 1 corinthians 7:14-15 "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband, else where your children unclean but now are they holy; but if the unbelieving depart,let him depart, a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:but God has called us to peace...

This actually was a little bit confusing to me, since the wife in question wasn't an unbeliever... Is my pastor right with his assertions?

1. Dat d wife doesn't flow with d pastoral call doesn't make her an unbeliever. Everybody cannot be pastor.
2. If d unbelieving depart, NOT put her away.
3. If she departs, Bible didn't say marry anoda. Hence, if he's convenient wt her leaving, then he shud be convenient wt remaining unmarried.

abatically:


Lol. U are still dodging the question . don't worry, its understandable because nobody really knows the answer. The moral is u don't judge. Believe in what u believe but u have no right to call a mog fake. Ur opinion was that divorce is not allowed because God didn't create another woman for Adam but only eve.

Ok accepted. So then who did adam and Eve's offsprings marry if God didn't create any other person other than Adam and Eve?

U are condemning polygany, but king Solomon was the wisest man, how many wives did he marry? How many concubines did he have? I know what ur answer is already. U will tell me its in this old testament. Ok fine. So why is it that whenever my pastors wants to collect tithe they always read from the book of Malachi. Last time I checked, Malachi is in the old testament. That same old testament that Solomon married 300 wives. Why scrap some and leave some, why not scrap the whole of the old testament then?

This just confirms my point, the bible is the most complex and contradictory book. Christians just choose the ones that favor them and scrap the rest.

Not all Christians, the thing is most of the content in the Bible are being perverted and twisted by most human being to justify their sins...
May God Almighty just guide us to do the right thing no matter the situation we find ourselves...
God bless you and your level of maturity...

misreal:
your mog is absolutely wrong....

All pastors are right all the time.

Drabrah:

1. Dat d wife doesn't flow with d pastoral call doesn't make her an unbeliever. Everybody cannot be pastor.
2. If d unbelieving depart, NOT put her away.
3. If she departs, Bible didn't say marry anoda. Hence, if he's convenient wt her leaving, then he shud be convenient wt remaining unmarried.

am not trying to justify him, but how should he handle the urges and feelings that will erode him oftentimes, this must have been what led him to the conclusion of taking a new wife..what do you say

foolish pastor & his gullible members. nothing like divorce at all in d Bible whether ur wife commit adultery or not . what d Bible meant was during courtship if d girl or boy found wanting in sexual immorality (fornication ) then they should dissolve that courtship immediately.

Ask ur self what happened to d woman that was caught in d very act of adultery in d Bible. what did Jesus do? are u saying only women are guilty of adultery? what do u do to cheating husband? DID YOU NOT SEE NOW THAT DIVORCE HAS NO PLACE IN GOD'S WORD?

Marriage is till death. if u don't WATCH before u go into it, you are finished forever. it is d hardest tin in life. no going back.

husband love ur wife whether she is a witch, smelly pussy, thief, dirty, illiterate, foolish, etc. the requirements are unconditional for d sake of ur own life to make heaven

98% Christians use their brain to read Bible rather than seek d holy spirit for understanding wisdom & knowledge. keep following ur gullible pastors like ozuor

Matthew 19:9-10

just4now:
While not justifying the action of your pastor which l have no right to pass judgment but for your seek l choose to advice. Brother, Christianity is highly spiritual this is why the Lord instructed us not to judge others because you never know where He has granted grace. lf l want to go by the letters your pastor is wrong but where do we place the leading of the Holy Spirit in matters so complicated as this. lf you are in doubt where your pastor stands before God [if you care that much] you should seek the face of God concerning his action. Meanwhile, many will lie against the Holy Spirit to justify their actions to their own perils still that doesn't negate hearing instructions from Him. As Christians we are to live by the Holy Spirit and walk after the Holy Spirit...Gal 5:24-26.

Cheers mate,you just nailed that.

Debeloved87:
My pastor's marriage crashed last year, thou the marriage produced children and the parting seems unreconcilable even thou i think it fell on domestic issues and also the fact that the wife doesn't really flow with the pastoral call of the husband as her pastor husband wish her to.

Recently the man of God was talking about it and he said that he will take a new wife very soon anytime he is ready, and he ask us whether its scriptural but we just giggled and he told us that it is scriptural that we should open the book of 1 corinthians 7:14-15 "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband, else where your children unclean but now are they holy; but if the unbelieving depart,let him depart, a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:but God has called us to peace...

This actually was a little bit confusing to me, since the wife in question wasn't an unbeliever... Is my pastor right with his assertions?

Why do you think he asked you first if it was scriptural? It's because he knew it wasn't. Change your church, friend. You're in the wrong place. Try Deeper Life for a change.

BuddhaPalm:

All pastors are right all the time.

dont quote me if you haven nothing to say

Debeloved87:
like i said she also is a christian, they found themselves and marry in the church

Then your pastor is wrong and you know from your heart that he is. The problem is that we exalt these men of God so much but remember at the end of the day, they are just like you and I.

Debeloved87:
he didn't consult me . he spoke it outrightly during the church weekly service.. you said he is wrong but the wife is not willing to come back and he's still a man with feelings and emotions, so how is he going to do it then

Yes!! he is wrong, if the reason is not infidelity according to the bible.

You shall know the truth...

misreal:
dont quote me if you haven nothing to say

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just4now:
While not justifying the action of your pastor which l have no right to pass judgment but for your seek l choose to advice. Brother, Christianity is highly spiritual this is why the Lord instructed us not to judge others because you never know where He has granted grace. lf l want to go by the letters your pastor is wrong but where do we place the leading of the Holy Spirit in matters so complicated as this. lf you are in doubt where your pastor stands before God [if you care that much] you should seek the face of God concerning his action. Meanwhile, many will lie against the Holy Spirit to justify their actions to their own perils still that doesn't negate hearing instructions from Him. As Christians we are to live by the Holy Spirit and walk after the Holy Spirit...Gal 5:24-26.

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Actually, the type of judgement the bible condemn is rash judgement and judgements we are guilty of - like you tell others not to steal but you're a theif. When it comes to judging this like this, christians are free to judge under the guardiance of the bible and the holy spirit. No need to shy away from the truth here, let's call a spade a spade - God approves such judgement.

Jeremiah 12:10,Prophets and Pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.DO HUMAN BEIGNS REALLY LIKE TO HEAR THE TRUTH?::::: authority and judgement has come back to the earth,BEHOLD we are not begging human beigns to accept our truth and revelation and that is why we have told them,this is power as of old , that go and sin no more power of REAL Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns , so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us?dont forget this that many are pretenders INFACT THEY are pretenders who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his , pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the HIDDEN mystery OF HUMANBEIGNS ?you that think that you are wise?many human beigns like to stand at the gate of heaven ,enter they will never enter ,also allow others to enter they will never allow others to enter so you must think humanbeigns:we are speaking by the power that is unbelievable to human beigns *this is typical of all our truth and revelation and explanations about the night people ,the rich people and evil marine and occult world and those whom human beings believe in them so much that they were called by God or where made rich by God who are in existence today as being powerful and others as the descendants of the prophets and priests referred to here in the bible @#### Jeremiah 5,25, Your wrongdoings have kept God away;your sins have deprived you of good and peace and night sleep.26 “Among my people are the wicked,who lie in wait like men who snare birds and like those who set traps to catch people.27 Like cages full of birds,their houses are full of deceit;they have become rich and powerful,28 and have grown fat and sleek.Their evil deeds have no limit; they do not seek Gods justice and secular.They do not promote the case of the fatherless;they do not defend the just cause of the poor even when they do its for their own selfish reason unknowingly to the those benefiting from them?.29 Should I not punish them for this?”declares the Lord.“Should I not avenge myself.on such a nation as this?30 “A horrible and shocking thing has happened in the land,31 The prophets prophesy lies, the priests rule by their own authority,and my people love it this way.But what will you do in the end?is it not those we call CHAMELEONS Let this phrase as follows sink in you and we repeat that we keep telling you human beigns about them that are being referred to in those passages by God himself hence judgement has come again or cant you see the judgment is all over the place even though the worst judgement is happening spiritually now but because those being judged are pretenders we repeat who will rather die that accept defeat just like Pharoah of bible time who preferred to sink in the ocean than accept defeat from moses even though pharoah knew the truth just like may evil people who read us knows our truth and revelation and many of his pharoahs descendants are still in existence today so you that is ignorant and blind spiritually will not know but we know by the reason of the light and the mantle and the power that be and that is why we reveal the mystery ?you that think that you are wise?this is words of authority and power from real Jesus CHRIST, that we declare and they are spirits,who can battle with the God of justice,he that made the spiritual laws?we are not begging human beigns to accept the truth and thats why we have told them this is power as of Jesus Christ which is unbelievable to human beigns so cant you see that we are wiser than you that criticize us BUT AS USUAL ONLY TIME WILL TELL WHO IS GENUINE OR NOT?DO NOT SAY YOU WHERE NOT TOLD THAT KINGDOM OF GOD OF JUSTICE HAS COME AND JUDGEMENT HAS COME BACK TO THE EARTH:YOU ARE PERMITTED TO INVESTIGATE BUT HOW WOULD YOU INVESTIGATE WHEN YOU ARE SPIRITUALLY BLIND?JEREMIAH 5,21-22

That's not true. If really he said so then he is misinterpreting the scripture.

Christian Marriage is a spiritual convenant and not a contract. The Bible said that a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave unto hie wife and they shall become one flesh (Genesis 2:24). They are still married o although they are not living together again. Their convenant is still intact, not even a court of law can nullify a spiritual convenant. They are still one, arbitrary divorce is unaceptable in christainity.

Thanks to all the contributors of this post, thanks to the MOD who put the post into limelight. May God continue to uplift each and everyone of us and direct us in the right way to go. Have a blessed week.

Debeloved87:
My pastor's marriage crashed last year, thou the marriage produced children and the parting seems unreconcilable even thou i think it fell on domestic issues and also the fact that the wife doesn't really flow with the pastoral call of the husband as her pastor husband wish her to.

Recently the man of God was talking about it and he said that he will take a new wife very soon anytime he is ready, and he ask us whether its scriptural but we just giggled and he told us that it is scriptural that we should open the book of 1 corinthians 7:14-15 "for the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband, else where your children unclean but now are they holy; but if the unbelieving depart,let him depart, a brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases:but God has called us to peace...

This actually was a little bit confusing to me, since the wife in question wasn't an unbeliever... Is my pastor right with his assertions?

That scripture ur pastor quotes, he doesn't understand the meaning. The unbelieving there is when you have not paid the bride price, may b you are leaving like boyfriend, committing fornication or the woman in question has given birth but u haven't done anything marital on his head. She is free to leave but once you have paid the bride price, my people there is nothing like divorce and marrying another woman/man. God says he hates divorce.
Mal. 2:16 - God says "I hate divorce." These are strong words from our Lord. Divorce and remarriage violates the sacred marital covenant between a husband and a wife that has been ordained by God.
Matt. 19:9; Mark 10:11-12; Luke 16:18 - Jesus says that whoever divorces and remarries another commits adultery. This is an offense against the natural law.