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Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by blueAgent(m): 8:18pm On Sep 10, 2015

“Nigga Rich” is African economics:
“Civil servants filling the posts vacated by
departing colonial officials insisted on the
same high salaries and perks – pensions,
housing allowances and cheap loans.
Government budgets soon became burdened
with the huge cost of salaries, allowances
and presidential expenses. Writing in 1962,
the respected French agronomist Rene
Dumont noted that a deputy in Gabon was
paid more than a British Member of
Parliament and earned in six months as
much as the average peasant did in thirty-
six years. He went on: ‘As for the Gabonese
presidency, parliament and ministers,
with all their supposedly useful trips, it
probably represents, in relation to the
national income of the country, more than
the cost to France of the court of Louis
XVI in 1788.’ Ministers in Nigeria were
rewarded not only with princely salaries but
rent-free, air-conditioned residences, replete
with stewards, gardeners and drivers,
generous car allowances, entertainment
budgets, free telephone and free electricity.
Senegal’s budget for 1964 showed that 47
percent of the total was allocated to civil
service salaries. In the Central African
Republic and in Cote d’Ivoire the figure
was 58 percent; in Congo-Brazzaville, 62,
percent; in Dahomey, 65 percent. A report
on Zambia noted: ‘Expensive houses built for
the emergent elite swallow up the bulk of
urban housing investments. Thus the
construction of 1,710 high- and medium-
cost dwellings and 1,307 servants’ quarters
absorbed 77.2 percent of the amount spent
on urban housing in 1974. Another 13.4
percent went into the building of 1,266 low-
cost units, 4.7 percent into 2,000 houses on
serviced plots, and the remaining 4.7 percent
into 9,905 houses.’
The wealth the new elite acquired was
ostentatiously displayed in grand houses,
luxury cars and lavish lifestyles –
‘platinum life’, it was called in Abidjan.
In East Africa a new tribe appeared,
cynically known as the WaBenzi, in
description of rich politicians, officials
and businessmen who drove about in
expensive Mercedes-Benz cars. Though
ministers in parliament and at public
meetings still issues promises about social
equality and referred sympathetically to the
needs of the common man, the gap between
the rich elite living in plush villas, elegant
apartment buildings and town houses, and
the masses surviving in slums and
bidonvilles on the fringes of the towns
became ever more noticeable.
A study of trade figures of fourteen
francophone states in 1964 showed that
the amount spent on importing alcoholic
drinks was six times higher than that
spent on importing fertilizer. Half as
much was spent on perfume and cosmetic
imports as on machine tools. Almost as
much went on importing petrol for
privately owned cars as on the purchase
of tractors; and five times as much on
importing cars as on agricultural
equipment.”
Martin Meredith, The Fate of Africa: From the
Hopes of Freedom to the Heart of Despair (New
York: Public Affairs, 2005), pp.170-171.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 10:50am On Sep 11, 2015*

Sabrwahaqqo:
Dear holocron,

I can see the light in your thoughts but I beg to differ with your concept (overall)

Like you've rightly said the white man's land a millennium ago is as bad as the black man's land of today. It was actually worse-off if you gonna take Nigeria as a representative backward blackman's land as a comparison...

Actually, I said that not so long ago (historically speaking) some 1000 years ago (give or take) some african societies where at par with european ones (And am not even talking of the great civilizations at Egypt and Ethiopia, think ancient Ghana, mali, songhai, kanem-Bornu, Asante, Benin etc. Look, its on record, check it: the earliest european visitors to Benin in the 16th century compared it favourably to Amsterdam in amazement of its culture, socio-political organization, andand fabrication technology.
Now, there was an historical point of divergence, which I identify as the european enlightenment (when they cast off superstition, and embraced logic and science) and the subsequent industrial revolution (still ongoing) and which has even industrialised science itself in the nature of giant government and private funded research establishments.

Magic and superstition is now on the average as good as cancelled when you look at the orientation of the upcoming generation...

Oh yes! The old magic and superstition seems to have gone...BUT WERE ONLY REPLACED WITH THE NEW ONES OF RELIGIOUS SUPERSTITION. Please do not get me wrong - I make a very firm distinction between religion (which is indespensable to man) and RELIGIOUS SUPERSTITION, which is just the mentally lazy mindset of ascribing any complex physical or social phenomena to spiritual causes instead of logical analysis and scientific research to find a solution. You take careful look around, you will find that the malaise of the elders have not escaped most of the youth. I think it is self evident.

So, I'm putting it to you that the problem wd the blackman 's land is not with the people and their believes . It's actually with the system that allows for grand cheating. Mind you the system is one designed for us by the whiteman you're telling us to copy word for word. Bro, the fact is that our 'destiny' is different and we just have to pave our own path by either changing the system totally or modifying it to suit . I choose the latter

When you advocate changing the system, we are on the same page. The issue is how? You do not point to an actual direction. You say: 'Our destiny is different' - there we go again with the spiritual instead of logical and scientific analysis. What is destiny? If the gravity at the poles is less than at equatorial african does it nullify the law of gravity or should we study and understand the concept properly? There are general physical, sociological and political principles that have be discovered by MAN using the scientific method and these principles hold true with respect to the universe. The rest of the world uses this scientific method to understand and manipulate the world. Why not use the same method to free yourself.

NOW, how to go about the clean up for the already messed up system?
I mean If Africa can domestically suffice for itself by believing in itself first, necessity will bring about inventions and we will come about to reign without losing our identity just because we wanna match-up with the world around. It will take a big Revolution for a dream this seemingly impossible to actualise.

Earlier on you said and I quote

"So, I'm putting it to you that the problem wd the blackman 's land is not with the people and their believes"

,Now you assert that Africa needs to believe in itself first.

This is self contradictory!

But if we have agreed that belief is crucial, then the next thing is the content of the belief system. And do not say belief in your self because it is too abstract and meaningless: believe in yourself as what? That you are god? Invincible, intelligent?...

I suggest that Africans simply shun superstition and completely embrace the scientific method as a reliable formula for understanding the world and changing physical realities.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 11:04am On Sep 11, 2015

blueAgent:
Guy na lie. it’s not a problem of “culture,” as if culture creates people’s behavior instead of the other way around.
Siemens is owned by Germany ,Shell by UK.the entire white race and countries are creative and enterprenuers ours is to loot.blame loot on culture.

Its a two way traffic. Man creates culture, and the culture recreates (shapes, modifies) Man. Research it. Do not just accept my word for it. Check it out for yourself.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 11:28am On Sep 11, 2015*

blueAgent:
“Nigga Rich” is African economics:
“Civil Servant....
Martin Meredith, The Fate of Africa: From the
Hopes of Freedom to the Heart of Despair (New
York: Public Affairs, 2005), pp.170-171.

Martin Meredith is fond of writing incomplete analysis of Africa. Those CIVIL SERVANTS were the specially trained Africans the colonial powers groomed (brainwashed) right from childhood in specially founded missionary schools, colleges, and european universities and war colleges (for military personnel) to take their place at the sham African independence as their surrogates( read achebe's there was a country' and also 'The black white man', by Adebayo), trusted to carry on their masters colonial ( now neo-colonial) agenda. These are the fake elite of African society.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 12:24pm On Sep 11, 2015

blueAgent:
Most are familiar with the story of how
Joseph’s brothers sold him into Egypt, and
that Jacob, with his remaining sons, their
wives and children (66 people in all),
eventually joined him there. When properly
understood, Joseph’s function and leadership
role in Egypt under Pharaoh was truly
prophetic of his descendants’ role throughout
history.
There, as prime minister, he supervised the
production, storage and distribution of food
through seven years of abundance followed
by seven years of famine. If you are not
familiar with how Jacob and Joseph’s brothers
joined him in happy reunion in Egypt, take
time to read this truly moving story in
Genesis chapters 42 through 45.

Exodus 1:11 Therefore they did set over them taskmasters to afflict them with their burdens. And they built for Pharaoh treasure cities, Pithom and Raamses.

so how come egypt is the so called cradle of civilization ?this explians why they could not sustain it becos they were not the originators.Roman empire,greece,baylonian empire and every other old civilization still have their similarities with today empires or their present countries .so whats up with that of egypt.

Blueagent, I would suggest that if your questions are honest (that is, you have not closed your mind to information contradicting your present belief) then continue with an elaborate study and research in history, political science and sociology and you will get clear answers to your questions.

However if you want enlightenment from forum users, then let your debate be less dogmatic.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 12:50pm On Sep 11, 2015*

I think you just hit the nail on the head with regards to this black/african inferiority complex. It is just a coping mechanism for managing personal failure.

You cant find such sentiments in succesful people.

Unfortunately, just as failure begets this inferiority complex, yet it too is bound to begat more failures! Its a vicous cycle.

This mental disease of the op and his adherents is deadlier than the worst snake venom. If you are afflicted with this black inferiority complex, you cant do anything right.

spellingcheck:
respond to my questions about the men of great inventions!!!!

why haven't your entire generation invented anything like Rob Ford? guess what because they are not brilliant.

be sincere to yourself and accept you are a failed human being, stop dragging black people into this.

This is the problem of the black man, instead of him to accept his failures, he will rather call himself other people blacks failures just to feel better.

anyways am still waiting tho

tell me why your entire generation did not invent anything like rob ford?
or
why havent you invented anything.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 1:33pm On Sep 11, 2015*

MyFlair:
Reliigion is never a problem. We Nigerians r nt more religious than the Israelis. One thing is tht we claim to be religious bt our heart is far removed from God. Sincerely, as bad as USA may b there r more commited christian there than in Nigeria.
Did Religion ask u to b corrupt? Did religion ask u to be lazy? Read Proverbs. Did religion ask u nt to pay ur tax? Give caesar wht is his n give God wht is His. Did religion ask u to neglet the poor n thwart justice? Bros Religion is nt the problem bt our hypocrisy.

Roger! There is a significant difference between religion and regious superstition. Religion is diverse but underlining every religion is that sense of wonder, feeling or reverence for the universe in all its manifestation and glory which even the most notable scientist, Einstein was quoted to have felt.

"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed."
Quoted on pg. 289 of Adventures of a Mathematician, by S. M. Ulam(Charles Scribner's Sons, New York, 1976). Apparently these words also occur somewhere in What I Believe (1930).

Religious superstition, on the other hand, is the result of the mental indolence associated with attributing of spiritual causes to most natural and social phenomenon instead of seeking understanding and solutions via logical reason and painstaking scientific research

All human societies were once superstitious in their infancy. The developed world has overgrown it, but Africans are still steeped in it under the cover of religion.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by Millz404(m): 2:27pm On Sep 11, 2015

Ilekeh:
Do you want to know why the whites are so successful? They pillage your continet for rich resources. African diamond trades, Gold from ghana, cheap human labour, natural resources, etc.

Yet these are the people you call God.

And why are you so foolish to let dem do so

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by jpphilips(m): 6:07pm On Sep 11, 2015

Ilekeh:
Do you want to know why the whites are so successful? They pillage your continet for rich resources. African diamond trades, Gold from ghana, cheap human labour, natural resources, etc.

Yet these are the people you call God.

What was the black man doing while the white man was "pillaging" their resources?

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by gatiano(m): 7:04pm On Sep 11, 2015

Observing.

jpphilips:
What was the black man doing while the white man was "pillaging" their resources?

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by blueAgent(m): 12:36am On Sep 12, 2015

holocron:
Martin Meredith is fond of writing incomplete analysis of Africa. Those CIVIL SERVANTS were the specially trained Africans the colonial powers groomed (brainwashed) right from childhood in specially founded missionary schools, colleges, and european universities and war colleges (for military personnel) to take their place at the sham African independence as their surrogates( read achebe's there was a country' and also 'The black white man', by Adebayo), trusted to carry on their masters colonial ( now neo-colonial) agenda. These are the fake elite of African society.

So the present african leaders are also brain washed by colonial masters Lol...blacks are pathetic

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 1:29am On Sep 12, 2015

blueAgent:
So the present african leaders are also brain washed by colonial masters Lol...blacks are pathetic

The simple answer is YES. The present leadership is the same crop. Think about it. How long ago was independence? Was it not just 55 years ago. The generation that was groomed, are they not still in power? How old is buhari, obj, ibb? Even when they die or leave power, dont they try and handover to their biological or ideological children for continuity? Was that not the case with Eyadema of Togo?

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by blueAgent(m): 9:39am On Sep 12, 2015

holocron:
The simple answer is YES. The present leadership is the same crop. Think about it. How long ago was independence? Was it not just 55 years ago. The generation that was groomed, are they not still in power? How old is buhari, obj, ibb? Even when they die or leave power, dont they try and handover to their biological or ideological children for continuity? Was that not the case with Eyadema of Togo?

So ibori looting billions.blame white man.people whose kinsmen dey chase from villiage.blame white. rigged elections blame white man, terrible roads blame white man.no electricity blame white man.high crime rate blame whiteman.blacks will never stop blaming others for their problems. their
next blame apps .will be blame God. pathetic blacks

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by holocron: 11:49am On Sep 12, 2015

blueAgent:
So ibori looting billions.blame white man.people whose kinsmen dey chase from villiage.blame white. rigged elections blame white man, terrible roads blame white man.no electricity blame white man.high crime rate blame whiteman.blacks will never stop blaming others for their problems. their
next blame apps .will be blame God. pathetic blacks

All those malaise you have listed are simply symptoms of the disease itself. Mind you, the white man is not the greatest problem the blackman has. The greatest problem is the blackman himself: his superstitious world view and unwillingness to use logic and the scientific method in the search for solutions to problems.

All that being said the white threat is still a reality. Though if not for the black man's weakness, it wont be so pervasive.

The western countries are very powerful as you have equally observed, and have the historic advantage - technological, military, and economic power- over the africans and other blacks. They have used this power to exert an 'undue influence' over the elite of African societies(the said elite they helped to create in the first place) by offering incentives and blackmail that is practically tantamount to coercion. Find out how Nkrumah of Ghana was unseated. Lumumba of Congo. Do you know the Taylor of liberia was a CIA agent?
We are not of the opinion of black helplessness and apathy in the face of all this. We believe the blackman can wake up and begin to change this state of affair, especially now, at the dawn of this information age. The key is for the masses to gain enlightenment.
If what we have type makes any sense to you, it is well and good; if not, let it be. I'll just urge you to investigate for yourself.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by bofoy(m): 12:31pm On Sep 12, 2015

Dharniel:
seconded...

fourded

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by tsdarkside(m): 10:48pm On Sep 21, 2015

what an insult...god can never be white...never....the white man is just a tool to punish the nations for disobeying his laws....mark my words...the days of the white man is numbered..is either we start obeying the laws or die with the white-race....simple....

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Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by gatiano(m): 10:45am On Sep 22, 2015

Which is the intent of the whiteman, that we die along with them.

tsdarkside:
what an insult...god can never be white...never....the white man is just a tool to punish the nations for disobeying his laws....mark my words...the days of the white man is numbered..is either we start obeying the laws or die with the white-race....simple....

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by neocortex: 3:49pm On Sep 25, 2015

exxell:
Do you mind them! Most peeps here are actually pained because I spoke the truth. For the last four days, we have not had light where I am. Nobody is complaining. Noisy generators everywhere! Yet they feel they can come and claim black supremacy!

Where are our Engineers? Where are our scientists? Where are our Architects? None.... We have absolutely none. Just go to our universities.... Producing thousands of quacks on yearly basis. Unproductive and very useless graduates!

Go to their university labs... Moribund and outdated equipments being used to teach students in the 21st century... Nonsense!

I expect you to have committed suicide by now so that you can be created a "white" in
your next life.
I just hope your family members are close by so that they restrain you
from entering market unclad.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by neocortex: 3:50pm On Sep 25, 2015

wheredemdey:
God bless u..

When God created man in His image...He was referring to the white man...the Blackman is something else...an after thougt....check out African countries....despite the myriads of human and natural resources that abound in Africa...we are still backward...stupid and monumentally silly.with selfish dull insensitive sit tight leaders

Lemme tell one experience..go to millenium park abuja...national stadium Lagos...headbridge osha...aba...okoko...or the north...u will see the remnants of the creation of the maker.u will see people defecating anyhow...on d roads etc..infact I am convinced the maker delegated the blackmans creation to some low ranking assistant.

Speak no more...I am lower than d whites , they will continue to
be my GOD , forever and ever...its a known fact.

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by amakasul(f): 6:43pm On Sep 30, 2015

blueAgent:
Stop saying what you done known.even the Childeren of iseral had slaves and were once slaves.God even gave moses specific instructions on how the iseralities were to treat their slaves.we are all equal before God.but God gave every body different gifts.Blacks were never the only race to be slaves.go and read about Europe and the dark ages.or the great famine in ireland or early pillgrimages from Europe to US.God chose Abraham and blessed him and told him that his seeds(christ) and seeds (people) will be a blessing to this world.so does that make God unfair.slave trade has never been the cause of black failure.
is Slavary responsible for our leaders looting.or the corruption that is pervasive in our society.or is it responsible for our tribalism and selfishness.abeg your argurment does not hold water.

You are such a gullible neophyte! Do you know how the bible came about that you are quoting it with such relish?
You are mistaken to rely on the fable that is the Bible as words of God when man has not even been able to decipher the origins of the cosmos, quantum physics, multi or parallel universes, etc., let alone ability to quantify or qualify God! If you cannot grasp this, then you have limited analytical imagination and are held back by fear of the unknown. So you see, you don't measure up let alone able to hold water!

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by Nobody: 11:24am On Oct 03, 2015

tsdarkside:
what an insult...god can never be white...never....the white man is just a tool to punish the nations for disobeying his laws....mark my words...the days of the white man is numbered..is either we start obeying the laws or die with the white-race....simple....

which law? I think the white created the law, why is it a crime if they think the law is outdated and no longer need to follow it. black is a cursed race, I pray the whole black race is wipe out of this planet

Re: Am Now Convinced God Is A White Man And Satan An African *picture Proof* by 7lives: 1:58pm On Oct 03, 2015

Ilekeh:
Do you want to know why the whites are so successful? They pillage your continet for rich resources. African diamond trades, Gold from ghana, cheap human labour, natural resources, etc.

Yet these are the people you call God.

Some of these people did not know anything about the white people but at least they must have heard about the extermination of the red Indians in America and the aborigines in Australia, i'm just sighting these two instances just in case they thought that 300years of slavery, a 100 years of colonization and apartheid in Africa was some folk tales.

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