raayah:
Because prayers don't work.

kwenu:

I disagree with you on that, if prayer dont work ezekiah wouldnt have been given 15 extra years to live
and if prayer dont work , d be telling us that Jesus wasted his time on (the lords prayer) which she taught his desiples

raayah:


Lol.. Christains!!

You just asked a question, I gave you a solid answer but you referred back to the bible.
Prayers do not work Shikena!!
Millions of people who prayed are still suffering.

The Jews (God's own people) after spending years in the concentration camp, suffering and dying like flies lost their faith in God.

There was a popular writing in the Prison wall by a prisoner, He said 'If there is a God, he will have to beg for my forgiveness'.

kwenu:
only a fool will choose not to reason with the most read book in the whole wide world

raayah:


Lol.. Christains!!

You just asked a question, I gave you a solid answer but you referred back to the bible.
Prayers do not work Shikena!!
Millions of people who prayed are still suffering.

The Jews (God's own people) after spending years in the concentration camp, suffering and dying like flies lost their faith in God.

There was a popular writing in the Prison wall by a prisoner, He said 'If there is a God, he will have to beg for my forgiveness'.

erusen:
who be this one you know if the girl pray or you dey there when she dey pray

raayah:


Why did you ask this question if you fully believed in the bible??

Also remember the bible states you should not call any man a fool.

Why do people like you pick the part you obey and ignore the other part?

kwenu:
Did my God assure you that his children was gonna be perfect by works before they can be justified
if one choose not to refer to the bible which is (truth), what then makes him different from a fool?, and what is the fear of God if you lack his wisdom

Scholar8200:
@ kwenu, It is one thing to pray (merely) it is another thing to prevail in prayer! Jacob did both! In Genesis 32:9-12 he prayed and looking at it,the prayer was well worded but he realised that he had not prevailed hence he separated himself from everyone to pray and ...(you know the rest!)

Likewise Jesus in Gethsemane, Moses on the Mountain, Paul as regards the thorn, etc You dont just merely pray; you pray until you get the answer/ assurance that you have the answer! Gone seem to be the days when people prayed till they found God (oh what bliss!!!) in prayer.
Others that pray do not do so in faith but in fear. You find prayer points, film shows, the sudden turn around/woes of somebody etc replacing the use of the Word in prayer!

In a time conscious, real-time, wait-and -get age, we are fast loosing the very essence of true prayer We approach prayer as though we were doing God a favour! Man wont mind standing in a queue from 6am to 3pm at an embassy just because of visa; he is convinced that his turn will come and he will not be denied, others discuss on phone late into the night till the early hour of the morning yet 30 minutes in prayer is punishment!

And even if the answer will be no (like it came to Paul) we will not be swept off our feet but we receive grace.

Scholar8200:
@ kwenu, It is one thing to pray (merely) it is another thing to prevail in prayer! Jacob did both! In Genesis 32:9-12 he prayed and looking at it,the prayer was well worded but he realised that he had not prevailed hence he separated himself from everyone to pray and ...(you know the rest!)

Likewise Jesus in Gethsemane, Moses on the Mountain, Paul as regards the thorn, etc You dont just merely pray; you pray until you get the answer/ assurance that you have the answer! Gone seem to be the days when people prayed till they found God (oh what bliss!!!) in prayer.
Others that pray do not do so in faith but in fear. You find prayer points, film shows, the sudden turn around/woes of somebody etc replacing the use of the Word in prayer!

In a time conscious, real-time, wait-and -get age, we are fast loosing the very essence of true prayer We approach prayer as though we were doing God a favour!(who is the needy and Who is the Needed?) Man wont mind standing in a queue from 6am to 3pm at an embassy just because of visa; he is convinced that his turn will come and he will not be denied, others discuss on phone late into the night till the early hour of the morning yet 30 minutes in prayer is punishment!

And even if the answer will be no (like it came to Paul) we will not be swept off our feet but we receive grace.

kwenu:


Deep truth thanks for sharing, i have learnt something new today

MzNelly:
Last I checked, nothing I have prayed for has ever come to fulfillment.

It's either there's no God up there or the God has more important things to worry about than His creation.

kwenu:
I just finished reading the story of that young promising , beautiful Lady, Oluchi, i was touched, its painful to see a loved one die like that through (electrocution)
one other part of the story that caught my attention is where the sister said, that Oluchi prayed to God in church seriously before her death but yet at the end she still died.

i lost my uncle about 7 years ago, and before he died, he had a dream concerning his death , and also his sister saw in a dream concerning his death, she saw him disapeared suddenly while he was descending down a hill then about 6 moths or a year later he died, he died at the age 37 leaving his family behind
his elder sister who saw his death and the rest of his family went into prayer but yet he still died

Now my question is, why did they have to still die after they have prayed to the almighty God, were their prayers never heard.?
some people may want to say its destiny, but i think not

i will take it as destiny if Ezekiahs life had not been prolonged with 15years

i invite all spirit filled Christians both prophets pastors, throw light on this issue

JoeCutie:
Have you ever, before going to bed at night, prayed and asked God to let you see the light of the new day?

waldigit:


-Gods Soveriegnity
-Foundations
- secret sin
-Matyrdom
-Fruitlessness
need details lets know.

raayah:


I come from a very religious background. I know a lot of people who have prayed and are stiĺl praying.

MzNelly:


No.

Many 'righteous' and 'God-loving' people have.
And they didn't see it.

What is life?

erusen:
and I know a lot of people that just started praying and their prayers answered I prayed for admission to study engineering I got it

JoeCutie:
You see your life...
You've never asked God for success in your exams: WAEC, JAMB, Post UTME, semester exams etc, and you got it?

Many a time you've been on the road traveling. You've never asked God to grant you journey mercies and He did it?

Sometimes you do not have money in school and you still manage to feed?

You've never asked Him for "long life and prosperity"? And maybe you don't know that you're only saying all these things now because you're alive? Or...oh, you're not prosperous? Maybe not yet?

Stop talking about the lives of the "righteous and God-loving people", their lives are things you've no idea what's really happening in. Their lives are theirs, not yours. Face yours. Talk about yours. You've no idea the kinda relationship they have (or had?) with their God.

It's so unfortunate that after all the happenings in our present world, you'd still give yourself more reasons to criticize God, instead of appreciating Him. Well, it's not too surprising though; we live in a very negative world. People (we) tend to see and dwell on the negatives a lot more than they (we) appreciate the positives.

There is God. He reigns supreme, and His ways are mysterious.

MzNelly:


I'm not doubting His existence.

His interest in us/me is something I'm not so sure of.
Don't talk about me.
You don't know about my successes or failures.

They're people who don't deserve half of what they have and yet they get it.
Atheists even.

While we sit, fast, pray and cry over what they have, yet God waits for us to stab ourselves with pains, then maybe one day when He's in a good mood/bored, after a million years, an angel comes through and answers us.

You are right about one thing tho.
His ways are mysterious.

Let's leave it at that.

MzNelly:
CaptainJune, God kills us because He's bored and wants us to spend some time with Him?

Does this even make an iota of sense to you?
If you don't understand why people die, say so and stop giving brain dead explanations.