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Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 12:31pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
These Northern Christians are not wise, Little wonder the Islamists are lording over them.

Will the Muslims accept this same thing if the governor was a Christian??... You and I knows the state would have gone up in flames by now.
its a lie. Nowhere wud ve gone up in any flames! If for instance there is a muslim org that is having such crisis in a state like Enugu, such that it about to lead to a brake down of law and order. And d gov decides to take action nobdy will raise an eye brow! Somtime ago in Lagos a Christian judge issued a ban on hijab in public schools aand nobdy burnt anywhere! The muslims are quitely pursuing the mata in court! U chistians shud jus shut u trap jare!
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 12:33pm On Sep 19, 2015
bonechamberlain:
ok, all those mosques that preach in support of jihad and extremism should also be closed down.
yes as a muslim I surpport the closure of such a mosque! We re nt bigots like u who fail to reason all the time
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 12:35pm On Sep 19, 2015
EdCure:
Elrufai is an islamist. It will be very silly for any Christian to support this act of persecution.
Northern Christians need a much stronger unity, love and more emphasis on evangelism, without which, hardline islamists like Elrufai, et al will always have reasons and excuses to bring down churches and scuttle their spread.
foooool like u! Jus be there wailing! The christians affected ve already spoken and ve supported the decision of the gov! If u re not happy kill ursef
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 12:37pm On Sep 19, 2015
ezebunafo:
Why are they using children of God's tithes and offerings to fund their court cases? It's so awful never knew assemblies of God church can degenerate into such,where the leaders no longer concerns themselves about things of heaven,instead they are concerns of selfish and material gains,smh
that's ow all pastors re! Show me one pastor who is nt concerned wit materialism and I will become a Christian!
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 12:40pm On Sep 19, 2015
Austin4lif:
Can a Christian Governor close down a mosque? Shame on CAN
yes! If the mosque leadership is involved in anytin the threatens peace and security!
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 12:43pm On Sep 19, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
The Governor has NO business with the internal wrangling of the Church that is even before the Supreme Court. All he needed was to put security in check and arrest any troublemaker for breach of public peace. What he did amount to infringement. As for Kaduna CAN, it is a BIG shame that they don't understand what is at stake. A more Bigger shame to the two warring businessmen called Pastors
keep ur calm! That is wat pastors re!
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by sniperr007(m): 12:43pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
These Northern Christians are not wise, Little wonder the Islamists are lording over them.

Will the Muslims accept this same thing if the governor was a Christian??... You and I knows the state would have gone up in flames by now.
U ve a point. But y shud dey use der differences to cause tension in community. Does Christianity no promote love & peace? So wats wrong wit d pastors?
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by SeverusSnape(m): 12:56pm On Sep 19, 2015
ALISMILE:
its a lie. Nowhere wud ve gone up in any flames! If for instance there is a muslim org that is having such crisis in a state like Enugu, such that it about to lead to a brake down of law and order. And d gov decides to take action nobdy will raise an eye brow! Somtime ago in Lagos a Christian judge issued a ban on hijab in public schools aand nobdy burnt anywhere! The muslims are quitely pursuing the mata in court! U chistians shud jus shut u trap jare!
Maybe you're the one that needs to shut up. The issue of hijab is a different issue entirely, the hijab was banned in public schools, Now let me ask you, Are public schools Islamic schools??... Any female mohammedan who wants to wear a hijab should go to makaranta Islamiyya. We all know Muslims are violent people, the issue you raised happened in Lagos, If it had been in one of those northern States, we all know what would have happened.

... And mind you, I'm not a Christian.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 1:05pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
Maybe you're the one that needs to shut up. The issue of hijab is a different issue entirely, the hijab was banned in public schools, Now let me ask you, Are public schools Islamic schools??... Any female mohammedan who wants to wear a hijab should go to makaranta Islamiyya. We all know Muslims are violent people, the issue you raised happened in Lagos, If it had been in one of those northern States, we all know what would have happened.

... And mind you, I'm not a Christian.
u see how prejudiced u re? So blind and bias to pple right to dressing!
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by Austin4lif: 1:08pm On Sep 19, 2015
ALISMILE:
yes! If the mosque leadership is involved in anytin the threatens peace and security!
and u people will not kill and bomb innocent pple because of that action? Can a kafari interfer in matters concerning the place of worship for Allah? Walahi talahi u are not a good muslim.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 1:19pm On Sep 19, 2015
Austin4lif:
and u people will not kill and bomb innocent pple because of that action? Can a kafari interfer in matters concerning the place of worship for Allah? Walahi talahi u are not a good muslim.
u will hardly see muslims fighting over such because we don't monetize our religion! An Iman doesn't expect to receive any stipend for being an Imam, rather he gives from his hard earned income to poor members of his congregation in the form of Zakat! That is Islam! Remove titing frm church and all pastors go on world wide stike!
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by Austin4lif: 1:33pm On Sep 19, 2015
ALISMILE:
u will hardly see muslims fighting over such because we don't monetize our religion! An Iman doesn't expect to receive any stipend for being an Imam, rather he gives from his hard earned income to poor members of his congregation in the form of Zakat! That is Islam! Remove titing frm church and all pastors go on world wide stike!
does that stop islam from being a religion of peace? Give me 5 examples why I should regard islam a peaceful religion
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by bonechamberlain(m): 1:57pm On Sep 19, 2015
ALISMILE:
yes as a muslim I surpport the closure of such a mosque! We re nt bigots like u who fail to reason all the time
when will the closure occur, or is it online closure, just like a Muslim u have already started displaying acts of extremism. u should constantly pray to God or Allah to curb the thirst and hunger for violence in ur lives
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ALISMILE(m): 2:06pm On Sep 19, 2015
bonechamberlain:
when will the closure occur, or is it online closure, just like a Muslim u have already started displaying acts of extremism. u should constantly pray to God or Allah to curb the thirst and hunger for violence in ur lives
waat u think about us muslims doesn't even affect us!thank u sir
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by bonechamberlain(m): 2:18pm On Sep 19, 2015
ALISMILE:
waat u think about us muslims doesn't even affect us!thank u sir
u re welcome.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by omenka(m): 2:34pm On Sep 19, 2015
Lalasticlala, you dey watch Chelsea match ni? Mbok, attend to this nkwobi before e cold.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by citizenY(m): 3:13pm On Sep 19, 2015
EdCure:
This is my point exactly!
What stops the governor from arresting the warring parties if he feels that they're breaching the peace of the state or community? Is the feuding pastors now bigger than the entire church, the body of Christ?
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The parties concerned are satisfied with the actions of the governor and that is what matters. The crisis cuts across both divides ,and it is not a local matter and the Supreme Court is involved. What else do you want ?
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by DFemaleBoss(f): 3:59pm On Sep 19, 2015
As if Elrufai in his heart of hearts really cares if those pastors kill themselves.
Kaduna CAN should be ashamed of themselves.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by Nobody: 4:14pm On Sep 19, 2015
When Jesus said " children of ds world, are wiser than dose of the kingdom "... u tot he was lying.... blind set of christians who cant see and discern d times....
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by APCREP: 5:53pm On Sep 19, 2015
Hh
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by wasco24: 5:54pm On Sep 19, 2015
cheesy
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by atlwireles: 5:54pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
These Northern Christians are not wise, Little wonder the Islamists are lording over them.

Will the Muslims accept this same thing if the governor was a Christian??... You and I knows the state would have gone up in flames by now.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by funkybully(f): 5:57pm On Sep 19, 2015
Meanwhile

Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by McCarlito(m): 5:57pm On Sep 19, 2015
Assemblies of God Church again!!!!!!!!!!huh huh huh
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by seedorfg(m): 5:58pm On Sep 19, 2015
shocked
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ExInferis(m): 5:59pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
These Northern Christians are not wise, Little wonder the Islamists are lording over them.

Will the Muslims accept this same thing if the governor was a Christian??... You and I knows the state would have gone up in flames by now.
What muslims would or would not do is not the issue here. The issue is that there is a persistent internal crisis within the chuirch that was threatening the peace of the immediate community. CAN itself could not halt the lingering crisis so the security council recommended closure to forestall breakdown of law and order.

This is proactive governance, and I quite understand that the PDP, being reactionary, would've allowed a descent to chaos before it attempted to take any actions.

But then, your quest to be a perpetual Nairaland nuisance supersedes logic and reason.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by Profitsng(m): 6:00pm On Sep 19, 2015
Kudos,


Next...
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by SeverusSnape(m): 6:02pm On Sep 19, 2015
ExInferis:
What muslims would or would not do is not the issue here. The issue is that there is a persistent internal crisis within the chuirch that was threatening the peace of the immediate community. CAN itself could not halt the lingering crisis so the security council recommended closure to forestall breakdown of law and order.

This is proactive governance, and I quite understand that the PDP, being reactionary, would've allowed a descent to chaos before it attempted to take any actions.

But then, your quest to be a perpetual Nairaland nuisance supersedes logic and reason.
https://i.imgur.com/XUKGS.jpg
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by ExInferis(m): 6:03pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
https://i.imgur.com/XUKGS.jpg
Haha i'm immune to childishness.

Grow up, Mr Noisemaker tongue tongue
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by madridguy(m): 6:04pm On Sep 19, 2015
Your Pastor must be Rev. Mbaka. The man with integrity.

omenka:
He wasn't being sarcastic oo. EdCure is a progressive that dislikes Islam. cheesy

I don't know about others, but never a day in my church has my pastor ever advised us to hate a people for any reason. He always does what he can to promote love, unity, tolerance and accommodation. But just like Edcure, I reserve the right to love and hate whoever I chose to- but I can't hate someone for reason of their religious or cultural persuasion.

God help us.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by Nobody: 6:06pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
These Northern Christians are not wise, Little wonder the Islamists are lording over them.

Will the Muslims accept this same thing if the governor was a Christian??... You and I knows the state would have gone up in flames by now.
Here is the cold reason why El Rufai took such a weird deicision.

If you have lived in Kaduna State in the last three to four decades....you would know that there are religious crisis in that state. Sometimes Christians vs Muslims, and sometimes intra-religious.

And yes....Muslims too too sometimes get it from the government....eg Sheikh Zakzakki has had his run ins with both the state and federal government....including getting jailed.

And in 2006...in the wake of a religious crisis in ABU, the university authorities (the VC was a Muslim then) closed the uni, and sacked the headship of the MSS at the school (they blamed them for instigating the crisis).

Of course...Christians too have had their share of crisis.

But in this case...this is a crisis that was clearly getting out of hand, it was threatening to erupt , and despite the Supreme Court looking at the case...both sides were gearing for war.

Would it have been nice for El Rufai to sit back, and let things be.....only to get blamed for any carnage resulting from the crisis?

The painful thing about leadership in Nigeria is that whenever a decision is made...you Nigerians read religion and tribe into it. That is how we got GEJ is marginalising northerners, and now...Buhari is marginalising Southerners....and meanwhile....we fight over things that are of no consequence.


One more thing.....Kaduna State does not just close down churches like that.(And yes...there is some anti-Christian bias) For El Rufai to close the church shows that something serious was afoot.
Re: Shut Churches: Kaduna Christians Back El-rufai by Nobody: 6:07pm On Sep 19, 2015
SeverusSnape:
These Northern Christians are not wise, Little wonder the Islamists are lording over them.

Will the Muslims accept this same thing if the governor was a Christian??... You and I knows the state would have gone up in flames by now.
You have tp seperate church bizness fro christianity, the christians arent united cos their leaders (pastors) are greedy and selfish , all tthey care about is the money they get theres no grain of integrity in them.
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