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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by anonimi: 12:38pm On Sep 20, 2015
adeyemi2015:
Glad you admit Saraki is corrupt grin
He learns politics from his late Dad and he's gonna do everything humanly possible to escape being tried. But we will be celebrating "madness" if he's not tried so as other corrupt Politicians.


I did NOT admit that Saraki is corrupt.
I admitted that Buhari AND Saraki are both corrupt.
Big difference. Please I take God beg you as today be Sunday nor twist my words oh. undecided



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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by sirvic01(m): 12:42pm On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Since Tuesday last week the media space has been filled with it issues that borders on the 13 count charge which include alleged false declaration of assets and corruption against Senate President Bukola Saraki by the Code of Conduct Bureau. As most of us are aware, the event took a new shape when the Code of Conduct Tribunal (CCT), headed by Justice Danladi Umar, had, in his ruling on Friday, ordered the IGP and other security agencies to arrest Saraki and produce him before it tomorrow (Monday) upon request by the federal government. This order and subsequent bench warrant followed Saraki’s failure to appear before the tribunal for arraignment. The time has come for Bukola Saraki to choose between the path of honor and that of dishonor.

The Path of Honor:
For a senate president or any top official of the State to be enmeshed in such controversy, the honourable path is simply to voluntarily resign from his high office and respond to the charge against him. Should Bukola Saraki do this, it will send a message that he is not absolutely morally bankrupt. He will not be the first parliamentary leader to tow this path. In July 1999, the Speaker of House of Representative Hon Salisu Buhari resigned after allegation of academic falsification. On 8th August 2000, Deputy Senate President Haruna Abubakar and Majority leader Samaila Mamman resigned their positions on allegation of fraud and corruption levelled against them. In April 2005, Senate President Adolphus Wabara stood down from his position to face allegation of receiving N50m bribe(along with 7 other legislators) from the disgraced Education Minister Fabian Osuji. On October 30, 2007, House of Representative Speaker Hon Patricia Etteh and her Deputy Babangida Nguroje resigned from their positions over allegation of inflating contract. Saraki has the option of emulating his parliamentary predecessors and save some part of his integrity.

The Path of Dishonour:
If the Senate President insists on ignoring the noble path (above), then he's only threading on a path of dishonor. If he chooses this path, he will not be the first top parliamentarian to do so. In August 2000, former Senate President Chuba Okadigbo was impeached over allegations of fraud after ignoring calls for resignation. He tried using every available means to escape and hold his position to no avail. His predecessor in office Chief Evans Ewerem was equally impeached in November 1999 for age and academic falsification. This is a disgraceful path. It will be more disgraceful should Saraki be facing trial as incumbent Senate President.

The Immaterial Excuses:
The excuse that the allegations against Senator Bukola Saraki was an offence that he allegedly committed in May 2003 is not only immaterial but also intellectually insane. As the Executive Governor of Kwara state between May 29, 2003 and May 29, 2011, Bukola Saraki enjoyed immunity as enshrined in the 1999 Constitution of Nigeria. Saraki lost that immunity on May 29, 2011 after vacating the seat as the Kwara number one man. That the CCB decided to institute his prosecution four years after losing immunity is highly commendable. Moreso, crime have no expiry date as long as it hasn't been cleared by a court. The argument that it was a 2003 case hold no water.

Some other of his supporters alleged witch-hunt by some power blocs within his party. This allegation whether true or false is also immaterial and is an insult to the sensibilities of Nigerians. This has always been the excuse of politicians and prominent people whenever their sins found them out.

Let us recall that in 2005, then Governor of Bayelsa state Alamesiegha was asked to resign and was subsequently impeached after he was indicted for money laundering in the UK. He blamed his political differences with President Obasanjo as the cause of his travails. When James Onanefe Ibori was declared wanted by the EFCC in April 17, 2010 over allegation of corruption, he accused EFCC of flouting due process and blamed his travails on Acting President Goodluck Jonathan whom he accused of witch-hunting him. He eventually fled the country to UAE, was arrested there and extradited to the UK, where he's serving jail term. Disgraced exGovornor of Adamawa state Murtala Nyako blamed political motivation behind his travails instead of responding to the corruption allegations levelled against him. When ex-Governor Sule Lamido's sons were convicted in 2013, he blamed it on his differences with exPresident Jonathan. He has also blamed his ongoing corruption trials on political witch-hunt by the APC. Ex-Governor of Rivers state Rotimi Amaechi is blaming political witch-hunt instead of submitting himself to Rivers state government probe and responding to corruption allegations against him. The case is not different from Raji Fashola who is blaming political differences instead of responding to the issues of OVER inflated contract during his administration. Olabode George that was convicted on allegation of contract splitting also blamed his political differences with Bola Tinubu. If you ask the disgraced exIGP Tafa Balogun, he will tell you that his travails was 'politically motivated'. Stella Odua and Buruji Kashamu are also alleging the same thing, "politically motivated".

Lai and Metuh Should Respect Themselves
It is embarrassing that Chief Olisa Metuh and Alhaji Lai Muhammed are trying to play to the gallery. Just yesterday, Metuh re-echoed the 'political motivated' song, while Lai Muhammed attempted to score point through hypocrisy. While Metuh should be reminded that his sermon that Saraki is being witch-hunted is lame, Lai Muhammed and the ENTIRE APC should be reminded that they were active backers of corruption during PDP administration. For instance, in July 2014, the APC Chairman John Oyegun held a press conference to lament the impeachment of Murtala Nyako. In his words...


Earlier before Oyegun made that statement, APC Governors through Rabiu Kwankwaso also tried to shield corruption by accusing PDP/GEJ of 'witch-hunting' Nyako and pledged support to him www.leadership.ng/news/377523/apc-govs-solidly-behind-nyako-kwankwaso.

Earlier in the administration, the government withdrew the corruption charges against Timpre Sylva of APC. The APC governorship candidate in Kogi state, Pa Abubakar Audu is also standing trial for corruption. It is advisable that both parties stop playing politics with everything. The law MUST take its course.

Finally, Nigerians of good conscience are enjoined to support constitutional process against corruption for a better country. As for Bukola Saraki, he has the choice to decide between the path to take; will it be that of Honour or that of Dishonor?



May God Bless Us All


I agree with you on this one ....GOD BLESS YOU.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by docadams: 12:46pm On Sep 20, 2015
MizMyColi:




I don't like all this type of open judgement, especially when it comes from one of our own to another of our own.


I thought Wailers welcome internal criticism to get stronger
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by hinwazaka: 12:47pm On Sep 20, 2015
Obiagu1:
@ TonyeBarcanista

I don't know why you irritate me. I know when you joined NL as Barcanista if you are the same person.

My opinion about you is that of a snake, a turncoat, backstaber, no morales, no principles, no conviction, no direction and no stance; forever meandering from one sphere of events, opinion, power in place etc. to another.
You are worse than a Yoruba man!

I thought you quit! Why are you here?
Still looking for a political appointment?

You'll never be like Beaf!
He was a man of principle and a legend on NL.



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Chairman, Barcanista is allowed to have a different opinion from yours. Here in the PDP team, we don't force our opinions on others. We also don't always take the same road. Besides Barcanista has a point, Saraki has a lot to answer for. His fraud at Societe General will always haunt him and the cries of his victims will always be on his conscience. But this is the time to redeem himself. Please let Barcanista do what he does best: honour and justice.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by DebateNigeria: 12:48pm On Sep 20, 2015
docadams:


In other words, you are proposing prosecution of corrupt persons by quota system.

Cc: TonyeBarcanista

Not at all. What I am saying is that the fight against corruption must be fair and seen to be fair. Let it start from our present democratic dispensation (1999), that's the least. Selective justice will even promote corruption the more.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by AdeniyiA(m): 12:49pm On Sep 20, 2015
How i wish TonyeBarcanista is nonpartisan and always this objective , infact the youths of this country shouldn't be partisan, with this we can see things clearly. These politicians are self-centered and do not care if we exist or not, so why killing ourselves for them, let's fight for ourselves and our future and that of our children, they loot bearing their generations unborn in mind.
USELESS SET OF PEOPLE! angry
they kill more than Boko haram angry
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 12:50pm On Sep 20, 2015
anonimi:



I did NOT admit that Saraki is corrupt.
I admitted that Buhari AND Saraki are both corrupt.
Big difference. Please I take God beg you as today be Sunday nor twist my words oh. undecided



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I'm really enjoying you bro!

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Obiagu1(m): 12:52pm On Sep 20, 2015
MizMyColi:


Bros, please let Barca be. Please.
Before we go all ballistic on one another, please ask whether or not your words are intended to cause him to be better and inspired (assuming he is the kind of person you are painting him as).

I don't like all this type of open judgement, especially when it comes from one of our own to another of our own.

Pain inflicted on others is pain inflicted on self, whether we realize or not.
Please we can do better.

Thanks for your post.
The truth is that I really don't know where he stands. Fact!

If he wants to become a neutral commentator, fine but not today APC, tomorrow PDP, next tomorrow Independent.

Truth is, if he is wise and clever enough, he should put his sanity in his pocket and seal his lips if his write-ups will damage and not favour his side, until insane APC clowns get a little sanity in their heads and see Tinubu as a criminal, Fashola as worse than T.O Orji and agree that Buhari broke the law by running for president without a certificate.

If his new stance now is neutrality, fine and let it remain as such, let him develop a principle!

The same political uprightness and naivety was what made GEJ to almost damage the PDP while trying to be sane in an insane and vicious political environment.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by docadams: 12:56pm On Sep 20, 2015
DebateNigeria:


Not at all. What I am saying is that the fight against corruption must be fair and seen to be fair. Let it start from our present democratic dispensation (1999), that's the least. Selective justice will even promote corruption the more.

Tell me anywhere in the world where the fight against societal vices follows a numerical order or a scale of preference of one individual or group of individuals.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 12:59pm On Sep 20, 2015
Obiagu1:
@ TonyeBarcanista

I don't know why you irritate me. I know when you joined NL as Barcanista if you are the same person.

My opinion about you is that of a snake, a turncoat, backstaber, no morales, no principles, no conviction, no direction and no stance; forever meandering from one sphere of events, opinion, power in place etc. to another.
You are worse than a Yoruba man!

I thought you quit! Why are you here?
Still looking for a political appointment?

You'll never be like Beaf!
He was a man of principle and a legend on NL.



Cc:
gunuvi Truckpusher Rozayx5 bomsilaga exxel erunz dunsman Nigerianvenom Ishiamu Phockphockman, nwadiuko1, ibokUtoroh, Koded, Ecoterrors, iPrinz20 Aprokoman, Whynotthetruth, Dearpreye, Firefire, Francizy, Temitemi1, Hinwazaka Ecoterrors, Dumkem21 Biafranqueen, Mogidi, Mizmycoli, IsraeliAirforce, Candyrain, Ambivert, Rose2014, Provacateur, Opiaoku, NDPVF, Anonimi, Engineerboat, Talktimi, ahaika23, coolestrogue APCSucks Emperortj93 DebateNigeria and all patriots
I was baffled until I read the bolded part..... You are disappointed in him? You are bitterly pained because of his balance and objective post?
I have just a word to describe you; Bigot That's what you are! No offense, just saying the simple truth!

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by MizMyColi(f): 1:12pm On Sep 20, 2015
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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:16pm On Sep 20, 2015
AdeniyiA:
How i wish TonyeBarcanista is nonpartisan and always this objective , infact the youths of this country shouldn't be partisan, with this we can see things clearly. These politicians are self-centered and do not care if we exist or not, so why killing ourselves for them, let's fight for ourselves and our future and that of our children, they loot bearing their generations unborn in mind.
USELESS SET OF PEOPLE! angry
they kill more than Boko haram angry
On the contrary, I think more young people should not only join a political party but also participate actively. The parties need credible people to reform itself. When the party is reformed, it offers credible candidates and people to run for election and get appointed. This will translate to societal sanity and development. Obama, Bill Clinton, Cameroon, Mandella etc are/were partisan. In fact, partisanship is one of the core for leadership. Partisanship is however not a license to unpatriotism
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Volksfuhrer(m): 1:18pm On Sep 20, 2015
A smashing piece of political commentary ...barcanista can be devastating when he chooses to be absolutely objective. I'd rather he belonged to no party at all...
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:22pm On Sep 20, 2015
@Mizmycoli

I will appreciate if you refrain from discussing me with that dude. I appreciate your intervention a lot. Please, rest it!

My position on issues may or may not be in tandem with everybody but it is mine. Thanks
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Obiagu1(m): 1:24pm On Sep 20, 2015
MizMyColi:


I understand your angst.
I would be lying if I said I don't.
The person in question is not perfect, but it doesn't take much to understand and accept him for who he is, flaws and all.

What I'm pleading for is that you should show grace...these are the kind of issues discussed in private...lest the political wolves capitalise on such.

I am opportune to be close to Barca and I can boldly tell you that he remains committed to the PDP rebirth cause.
His principles are actually the cause of this misunderstanding.

I'm in politics to change things and not to protect thieves
If he's guilty of robbing his state, he shd pay for it
If he's innocent, he'll be vindicated


^^This was his words in a private convo when I requested him to do a write up on the witch-hunt trailing Akpabio.

He might have made mistakes in the past which he may or may not realize, but I know he's a good person.
That's enough reason for you, I and every other comrade to stay true to him.

If that quote came from him, I'm sorry but he doesn't belong to the PDP where the other side is using public institutions to witch-hunt his side; he is infact a NEUTRAL or rather an INDEPENDENT!
Let him accept that and not deceive the PDP that he is one of them.

Political naivety has no place in a political party, you have to tag along or get out.
The opponent is so insensible and so vicious that people like Barcanista and Goodluck Jonathan (May God punish Obasanjo for imposing him on the PDP) have no place in it.

Read your environment before you start to sound sensible.
If he cannot write something about Akpabio, sorry he should not write anything about the Senate President if he is PDP. He is arming the other side.

He doesn't know the game!

I rest my case.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:34pm On Sep 20, 2015
Volksfuhrer:
A smashing piece of political commentary ...barcanista can be devastating when he chooses to be absolutely objective. I'd rather he belonged to no party at all...
How do you think democracy can be strengthened without people going into parties with reforming view/policies to change things? How do one attain position of leadership and effect change without being an active player? However, my philosophy and ideology as it relates to politics will be that of conscience and patriotism.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Volksfuhrer(m): 1:36pm On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:

On the contrary, I think more young people should not only join a political party but also participate actively. The parties need credible people to reform itself. When the party is reformed, it offers credible candidates and people to run for election and get appointed. This will translate to societal sanity and development. Obama, Bill Clinton, Cameroon, Mandella etc are/were partisan. In fact, partisanship is one of the core for leadership. Partisanship is however not a license to unpatriotism

It is hard to be objective when you are partisan. Besides, being objective could even be unrewarding as a party member in this corner of the globe. Many of your PDP supporters would loathe your stance on this Saraki issue. But I admire your courage all the same.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Obiagu1(m): 1:43pm On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
@Mizmycoli
I will appreciate if you refrain from discussing me with that dude. I appreciate your intervention a lot. Please, rest it!
My position on issues may or may not be in tandem with everybody but it is mine. Thanks

Truth hurts!
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 1:46pm On Sep 20, 2015
Volksfuhrer:


It is hard to be objective when you are partisan. Besides, being objective could even be unrewarding as a party member in this corner of the globe. Many of your PDP supporters would loathe your stance on this Saraki issue. But I admire your courage all the same.
If you look at the purpose of political partues creation, you will understand that they were intended to deepen democracy and good governance and not promote corruption and unpatriotism. In sane climes, the party will tell the embattled official to stand down and face his allegation because it doesn't want to be seen as corrupt institution. Unfortunately, As opposition, APC backed every corrupt official when they were called on to face justice, same with a section of PDP now that they are in opposition. While i/we/some of us condemned APC then, we will be unfair to the system should we support/back the same thing that we condemned. The truth is that PDP is rebranding and reforming. As you can see, opinions are sharply Divided within the NL PDP for instance. For instance Tomakint, firefire, Oche and some few others are calling for Saraki's prosecution. Some people are absolutely neutral, while some others are backing him (their opinion).

I will remain in PDP and play active role untile the system experience sanity.


#Sorry for the epistle
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Obiagu1(m): 1:48pm On Sep 20, 2015
The vultures have been armed and they are hovering over.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by 989900: 1:55pm On Sep 20, 2015
adeyemi2015:

Don't be upset man! Saraki should honorably defend himself and stop playing hanky panky! He should do the needful by resigning and faces the charges against him!

Quit arguing with a 'wall'.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Hero10001: 2:16pm On Sep 20, 2015

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by citizenY(m): 2:33pm On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
Nobody has convicted yet! We are saying that he should face his allegation. The court will decide his innocence or otherwise.

I agree but he should do what is done in sane societies and step down till he is absolved of the allegations.

Meanwhile, we are once more in the woods. He may not step down without a fight and the casualty will be the stability of the Senate and by extension the entire polity.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 3:57pm On Sep 20, 2015
citizenY:


I agree but he should do what is done in sane societies and step down till he is absolved of the allegations.

Meanwhile, we are once more in the woods. He may not step down without a fight and the casualty will be the stability of the Senate and by extension the entire polity.
That's actually Saraki's business. He's going down whether or not he agrees to voluntarily step aside. We shall continue to demand justice
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Candyrain(m): 4:07pm On Sep 20, 2015
I'm just curious. If after resigning and the court of law declares him "not guilty" of the charges leveled against him, what happens next?

adeyemi2015:

Don't be upset man! Saraki should honorably defend himself and stop playing hanky panky! He should do the needful by resigning and faces the charges against him!
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Dannyset(m): 4:21pm On Sep 20, 2015
And the right spirit came on TonyeBarcanista as he was in the days of PDP. But I still smell a rat. He's envisaging thhe gains of pdp ni. Is it not him? mtchewww!
Nice piece as usual tho!
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by Nobody: 4:31pm On Sep 20, 2015
TonyeBarcanista:
@Mizmycoli

I will appreciate if you refrain from discussing me with that dude. I appreciate your intervention a lot. Please, rest it!

My position on issues may or may not be in tandem with everybody but it is mine. Thanks

Yes brother. It's your right to air your opinion, and no one should bully you for that.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by slimfit1(m): 4:44pm On Sep 20, 2015
Because of selfishness a lot of people would have lost their jobs.
Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 4:53pm On Sep 20, 2015
dearpreye:


Yes brother. It's your right to air your opinion, and no one should bully you for that.
Thanks Sir! Some people believe that they "own" opinion of others.

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Re: Alleged Asset Falsification: The Paths Before Saraki; Of Honour and Dishonour by TonyeBarcanista(m): 5:01pm On Sep 20, 2015
slimfit1:
Because of selfishness a lot of people would have lost their jobs.
You can imagine how many would have directly or indirectly lost their lives.

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