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Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by tsdarkside(m): 12:26am On Oct 13, 2015 |
finniblinks: you dont build a giant port,in a area,that dont even have enough population to stand financialy on its own.......this easteners should stop thinking with their anus,for ones......why not build a airport in every village in the east.....jealouse and unlogical people.... 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jpphilips(m): 2:54am On Oct 13, 2015 |
byrron: Your father has the answer to your unambiguous questions, fair enough?? |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 4:16am On Oct 13, 2015 |
redsconsult: You may need to confirm your figures. Lagos sea port is 7-9m dept while that of Akwa-ibom is 17-18m dept without dredge.
http://www.nigerianports.org/news.aspx?id=251 Nigeria isn't one that's why we are not utilizing other ports. Look at how congested Lagos state is. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 4:24am On Oct 13, 2015 |
tsdarkside: Have you for once heard the term 'RURAL URBAN MIGRATION' ? what are the causes of population growth? Are the people in Lagos state the indigent of Lagos state? It is said that environment contributes to human development. I may not know the environ that moulded you. You really need to change from your environment because it is not doing you good. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 4:40am On Oct 13, 2015 |
jaymichael: When next you talk about tribalism, don't mention SS/SE because it is domicile in SW. If SW investments are in SS/SE then I wont call you guys tribal bigot but since it is not the case, you guys are tribal bigot. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by tsdarkside(m): 6:26am On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot: sorry...what do you mean??...i mean,if you can not afford a ferrari,then its better you settle for a bycycle....and you are writing mambo-jambo........thunda fire you!!! then build when the population reach 100`000,,1`000`000,,10`000`000...not when only 2`000 people are there you build a airport...its too expensive to maintain,you can not keep asking the goverment for this kind of silly projects....as if the goverment have a magic-tree,were they pluge the money from..... every towns and cities in nigeria want to be like paris...as if every towns and cities in france are like paris....many towns and cities in france is what we call village in nigeria.......i dont even think france has that much seaports and airports as we in nigeria are trying to achieve...the idea is ridiculos...... |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 7:15am On Oct 13, 2015 |
tsdarkside: Am sorry to have started arguing/responding with(to) an illiterate. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jaymichael(m): 7:25am On Oct 13, 2015 |
postmann:Just one functional seaport you say? Is this bigotry or crass ignorance on display here? PH port is working. You cannot be in your bedroom and know which port is functional or not. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by tsdarkside(m): 8:04am On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot: i dont have to be a literate to tell you that,you dey craze!!!... |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by asha80(m): 8:23am On Oct 13, 2015 |
tsdarkside:only an ignorant illiterate would type the above.. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by coolscott(m): 9:11am On Oct 13, 2015 |
jaymichael:To be fair and honest, militancy only started "yesterday" immediately after the Dr. Peter Odilli era. So militancy actually does not cut it as a reason |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by honeychild(f): 9:31am On Oct 13, 2015 |
stanech: It actually is not silly. All the oil companies locations are protected by heavily armed personnel funded by the said companies. I don't think the average importer can afford to pay for such escorts. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by honeychild(f): 9:33am On Oct 13, 2015 |
stanech: It's the same ss people that are collecting these money! |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by redsconsult(m): 9:50am On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:Lagos sea port is 13m stop guessing |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 11:06am On Oct 13, 2015 |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 11:37am On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:This is not a verified claim |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by bakynes(m): 1:23pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
What's with this Jealously meted out on we Yorubas from the other tribes in the South. I was sitting at a Bar here in Lagos and I was listening to SS and Igbos talking bad about Yorubas and am like "wetin we buy for this people hand wey we no pay". An expert has explained to you lots why the Lagos Seaport is more viable and you didn't disagree constructively but resort to Bigotry and abuse. 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by postmann: 2:08pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
jaymichael: When i said "functional" the average reader could very easily know what i meant. I've worked in Bonny, Kolo creek, PH, Oporoma, etc and I know PH port like Warri port are having low activies. There's nothing stopping the FG from dredging the port in PH and make it suitable for larger ships. Afterall, that was the port that served the British in eastern Nigeria. Your oga at the top might have told you sweet garbage as to why ports in eastern nigeria dont function well -— even calabar port which is well suitable for export and import and you're spreading falsehood. Working in a shiping line gives you no authority on classified facts about the politics of Nigeria. There have been pirate activities along lagos waterways. It actually was during and after the civil war that all the ports and international airport in the east were discouraged from functioning in their original capacity for fear of weapon smuggling. Unfortunately the ghost of that policy still lingers several decades after. And no government has reasoned beyond her anus to realize Nigeria is losing billions having just one major port. The mother of all shame is that we even lose to Benin port. The black man has proven to be his own worst enemy, never seeing beyond the scope of tribalism. There are so many facts: even the steel plant that the British sited in the east because of the availability of iron in orji river axis. and coal in Enugu was moved to Aladja in delta state. Despite all the billions sunk into it , it failed to live. These are few ills of the tribal military regimes that failed to diversify Nigeria's economy and locations. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 2:18pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 2:26pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:And.........is it verified there? Do you even understand the issues at stake you just post what you do not understand. There is a port at Apapa with a depth of13+ Metres that is called Anchorage depth when the ships berth. It is quite different from approach depth etc. The link you provided just mentions an UNVERIFIED claim which is what I said before More telling is the fact that there is a proposal to move it. Why? Ibaka is not by the sea and so it will be moved to a new location and will no longer be called Ibaka but Ibom. When that time comes tell us the depth and whether you are talking of anchorage depth or approach depth.http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/ibaka-deep-sea-port-relocated-new-site/ If it is located to Ibeno as proposed that means it will be on the Kwa Ibo River about 20 miles from the sea. This will give you an idea of how blessed Lagos is. Lagos can comfortably host another 4 or 5 ports sitting very comfortably on or close to the sea without talking of the potential for reclamation of more sea while the whole country from Ogun to Akwa Ibom will struggle to host one Anyway I am in support of it but the truth is that entire area will cost a lot more money to construct and maintain than Lagos state but Akwa Ibom has the money and it is a good long term investment 1 Like |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by jaymichael(m): 3:22pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
postmann:Leave all this epistle and long preaching. The subject matter is the underutilization of PH port. Is the PH port (as at now) receiving cargo or not? Which areas are pirate infested in Lagos inland waters? Am very conversant with the waterways from Lagos channel around Tarkwabay, Apapa and tincan channel Badagry Creek to cococnut to kirikiri. From Apapa to Kirikiri, there are 5 Customs command with a comptroller in each command APAPA TINCAN PTML MARINE COMMAND and KLT PAN ATLANTIC COMMAND. Where are the pirates infested? Do you even know that I live on an Island opposite Tincan island port and I take boat everyday to and from work everyday. You are talking about dredging, do you even know that the waters of Klt pan Atlantic command is shallow? it can only accommodate fishing trawlers and badges. Goods are transported in badges from Tincan with badges as the water is too shallow to accommodate the large ocean going vessels that Apapa and tincan can accommodate. That is why it is called PAN ATLANTIC KIRIKIRI LIGHTER BERTH OR KIRIRIRI LIGHTER TERMINAL (KLT). The Port did not suffer or close for this reason. Nobody is hindering PH port from booming but your people that prefer to fill Apapa or Tincan in their form m. If you choose Apapa or PH as your port of destination, the government or shipping line will not transfer your goods to tincan or elsewhere. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by opineflu(m): 3:48pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
we need community development in nigeria to curb regional violence |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Nobody: 4:22pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Do you know that Ibaka is in Akwa-ibom state? Just as you mentioned that Lagos is so blessed, that's is also how other parts o Nigeria are blessed as well. Do we allow nature to shape our country? If the FG is committed to the idea of a country called Nigeria, they would have made it a priority to develop other ports in other areas not comparing other areas with Lagos. If we don't have other ports, what happens when the need for maintenance comes? More ports will lead to more jobs, industries and increase the economic activities. Even if Lagos should have 10 ports and other states have seas of 10m depth, the Gov should develop sea port there. Now, Ibaka has up to 17m depth without dredge and you want to confirm it? How did you verify that of Lagos? |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 4:26pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:Google is a friendly guy.Don't you know? |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 4:27pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:Are you serious? Wow I thought it was in Gombe state,My bad!! |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 4:31pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:Try and read before you respond. I said I support the development of a port in Akwa Ibom.#I also posted a link where it says they have decided to move the port from Ibaka to Ibeno because it is not viable (so much for your 17M claim) Ibeno is also in Akwa Ibom on the Kwa Ibo River. Why did they decide Ibaaka is not viable. Inform yourself better before spouting hot air |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by omonnakoda: 4:33pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
http://www.vanguardngr.com/2014/12/ibaka-deep-sea-port-relocated-new-site/ Ibaka deep sea port relocated to new site THE proposed Ibaka deep sea port, Akwa Ibom, has been relocated to Ibeno Local Government Area, while the name has been changed to Ibom from Ibaka. FPSO Vessel FPSO Vessel Vanguard gathered that the project analysis done by a foreign consultant and Transaction Advisers, FELAC Concept and Marine and Transport Business Solutions, MTBS, of Netherlands, showed that the port project would not be commercially viable if sited at Ibaka due to its long distance from the sea.. A source close to the Ministerial Steering and Delivery Committee for the port who spoke to Vanguard, explained that the project had to be moved initially to Okposo. The source further noted that the same problem of distance from the sea as well as the dense population, made it non-viable. The source said that the soil analysis on Okposo showed that the earth there is marshy which would further drive up the cost of construction should it be sited there. The source pointed out that the project had to be moved again to the third site at Ibeno Local Government Area and the name had to be changed from Ibaka to Ibom, like all other projects of the state to give it a state colouration. The distance from the new site to the sea is about 20 nautical kilometres and also it is closer to the connecting expressway for quick evacuation of consignments from the port at completion, the source disclosed. The source also said that the area is less populated, making compensation for displaced persons easy, as well as making the new site for the project commercially viable. The transport ministry source said that one of the major challenges faced by the committee at the new site was the presence of under-ground oil pipelines. The source explained that the Committee held several meetings with the Department of Petroleum Resources, DPR, National Petroleum Investment Management Services, NAPIMS, and the various oil companies on how to work around the pipelines. The oil companies agreed to relocate some of the pipelines that were no longer active away from the area to aid quick construction of the port. The source explained that construction work on the project is expected to commence sometime next year on a Public, Private Partnership. It added that a few little details left on the part of government would soon be taken care of for construction work to commence. On financing, the source disclosed that the private sector is expected to have 60 percent while the Federal and state governments are expected to hold 20 percent each. According to the source, “No government can fund a port project but it can only be achieved through a Public/Private sector partnership.” Foreign concerns are already making inquires on what is required to partake in the financing of the project. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by disumusa: 4:51pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
coolscott:its b/c ss and sw are not mate.i.e power pass power, and people pass people. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by redsconsult(m): 5:44pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:ibaka port is not 18m. The far dept of gulf of Guinea is around 17 to 24m which it reduces as it tends to near the port. Some other areas in Lagos is as deep as 23m from the coast. The port location is totally different from the anchorage which might be as deep as 18m. From my little studies ibaka sea port will needed dredging before it can attain depth of 13m to 15m. All you read in that piece of document was to facilitate for the development and construction of the port which has never reach 10percent and we were told operation will start this year. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by redsconsult(m): 5:53pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport Initiative The Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport project is one mega project whose economic importance to Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria and the entire Gulf of Guinea has been well acknowledged. This has informed keen interest of the Federal Government of Nigeria in the project, which on completion, is expected to redefine the direction of economic activities in the sub-region. To underscore the importance of the Ibaka Intergraded Deep Seaport to the economy of the region the Federal government of Nigeria not long along ago gave approval and set up a technical implementation committee to ensure the actualization of this dream project and the required licenses have been issued for its takeoff. The Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport consists of key components are also constitute major investment areas for potential local and international investors. The key components of the IIDS, are: • Petrochemical Industries (eg, fertilizer plant) • Refineries • Five Star Hotel • Dockyard and watercraft Repair Facilities • Cargo Handling and Associated activities The Ibaka Deep Sea Port is designed to be one of the components of proposed Ibom Industrial City. The Industrial City business resort is expected to house refineries, petrochemical plant, dockyard, housing estates and oil and gas support services. 3D Model of the proposed Ibom Industrial City 3D Model of the proposed Ibom Industrial City The Ibaka seaport has the following unique features: • Has a natural draught of 11 meters • requires little dredging to accommodate large ocean going vessels • located in the oil rich region and would serve the oil companies and oil service companies located within the region • Easy access to the oil rich Gulf of Guinea • Proximity and centrality to Deep offshore operations & West African region, JDZ, Sao Tome, Equatorial Guinea, Angola, Gabon, Tinapa. • Could stimulate industrial, mercantile and tourism activities • Development of infrastructure to support oil & gas exploration, shipping, industries and international trade within a free trade zone framework • The synergy so generated would be used as a vehicle for rapid development • Employment of a strategy that balances rapid industrialisation/ economic growth with environment protection. |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by redsconsult(m): 5:54pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
stickncarrot:Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport Initiative The Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport project is one mega project whose economic importance to Akwa Ibom State, Nigeria and the entire Gulf of Guinea has been well acknowledged. This has informed keen interest of the Federal Government of Nigeria in the project, which on completion, is expected to redefine the direction of economic activities in the sub-region. To underscore the importance of the Ibaka Intergraded Deep Seaport to the economy of the region the Federal government of Nigeria not long along ago gave approval and set up a technical implementation committee to ensure the actualization of this dream project and the required licenses have been issued for its takeoff. The Ibaka Integrated Deep Seaport consists of key components are also constitute major investment areas for potential local and international investors. The key components of the IIDS, are: • Petrochemical Industries (eg, fertilizer plant) • Refineries • Five Star Hotel • Dockyard and watercraft Repair Facilities • Cargo Handling and Associated activities The Ibaka Deep Sea Port is designed to be one of the components of proposed Ibom Industrial City. The Industrial City business resort is expected to house refineries, petrochemical plant, dockyard, housing estates and oil and gas support services. 3D Model of the proposed Ibom Industrial City 3D Model of the proposed Ibom Industrial City The Ibaka seaport has the following unique features: • Has a natural draught of 11 meters • requires little dredging to accommodate large ocean going vessels • located in the oil rich region and would serve the oil companies and oil service companies located within the region • Easy access to the oil rich Gulf of Guinea • Proximity and centrality to Deep offshore operations & West African region, JDZ, Sao Tome, Equatorial Guinea, Angola, Gabon, Tinapa. • Could stimulate industrial, mercantile and tourism activities • Development of infrastructure to support oil & gas exploration, shipping, industries and international trade within a free trade zone framework • The synergy so generated would be used as a vehicle for rapid development • Employment of a strategy that balances rapid industrialisation/ economic growth with environment protectionakwaibomstate.gov.ng/ibaka-integrated-deep-seaport/ |
Re: Why Is Rivers State Sea Port Underutilised While Lagos Suffers From Congestion? by Duru1(m): 6:29pm On Oct 13, 2015 |
ba7man: In respect to geological features, the ports are not favored with open sea. However Port Harcourt could be better than Apapa since the Lagoon is formed by sandbank or coral reef. |
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