Chanchit:



See as trouble sleep wahala dey wake am, I know from the replies you've got you go dey under bed dey cry now.

Lol

aresa:



Get over yourself and quit confusing yourself

I asked you why the SE didn't score any Firsts In Nigeria within the same regional era, not irrelevant stories and excuses.


The industrial estates created by the old western region created more jobs than the Nigerian oil industry many time over so what's your point?

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Rubbish, I'm not interested in your side worries, we are talking about firsts in nigeria and afrca.

lol @ postcard? You are a comedian afterall..

You asked about relevant development which I gave you. The reason why some of these firsts are irrelevant in this discussion is because development was based around Lagos so technology was brought and tested through there first as the colonial administrative center and then quickly moved about Nigeria, especially eastern Nigeria, and many of these firsts were brought about by a combination of people from all over Nigeria like Vincent Maduka of Western Nigeria Television. It's like Liberia or Sierra Leone bragging about first black this or that. I would be more comfortable talking about 'firsts' or more like innovations before Britain brought their technology, anything other than that is bragging about being colonised because all these first ended when they left which is why cocoa house is in ruin. That's my point. It's not a big deal the the first industrial part of Nigeria was in eastern Nigeria. For example the first railway line in Nigeria was built in the western region in Lagos.

ezeagu:


You asked about relevant development which I gave you. The reason why some of these firsts are irrelevant in this discussion is because development was based around Lagos so technology was brought and tested through there first as the colonial administrative center and then quickly moved about Nigeria, especially eastern Nigeria, and many of these firsts were brought about by a combination of people from all over Nigeria like Vincent Maduka of Western Nigeria Television. It's like Liberia or Sierra Leone bragging about first black this or that. I would be more comfortable talking about 'firsts' or more like innovations before Britain brought their technology, anything other than that is bragging about being colonised because all these first ended when they left which is why cocoa house is in ruin. That's my point. It's not a big deal the the first industrial part of Nigeria was in eastern Nigeria. For example the first railway line in Nigeria was built in the western region in Lagos.

oga! you have no point at all, if you don't know an answer to a question, eat the humble pie and watch from a distance. stop beating around the bush. it's irritating.

knowledgeable:




Okey oo, but for some inexplicable reasons, all these exceptional contributions haven't manifested themselves in the brown roof slums of the brown roof republic.

Populated and prosperous brown roof republic is by far better than the despicable and desolate gully erosion republic, that keeps witnessing brain and manpower drain on a daily basis.

meforyou1:
u offer nothing. Igbos offer all these in lagoons, a no man's land

fixed.
that's Lagoon.

WIZGUY69:




oga! you have no point at all, if you don't know an answer to a question, eat the humble pie and watch from a distance. stop beating around the bush. it's irritating.

Look, I don't care about a radio station that doesn't exist today. I want to discuss innovations, not second hand equipment dashed to the Lagos office in the 50s. Eastern Nigeria was going through some industrialisation during the 1880s to 1900 which is why Calabar was the first capital. The palm industry is what started Nigeria and the trade was made by several ethnic groups in eastern Nigeria. The first anti-colonial movement, the Ekumeku movement, was initiated by Anioma-Igbo people. The biggest market of colonial Africa, Onitsha Main Market, still thrives today and now shares that title with Kumasi. I can't be bothered talking about industries that are completely dead today.

kingzizzy:


The only thing of note in what you said is that there are more industries in Ogun state than the SE/SS. So Ogundipe state has more economic and commercial clout than Onitsha. Enlighten me. Where are these industries, is it in Abeokuta or where? What type of industries are in Ogundipe state. I'm intrigued

God! As at 2015, a Nigerian citizen still doesn't knew that Ogun state is the most industrial state in Nigeria. (one of the disadvantage of a faceless forum) you will see a kid arguing with you on a faceless forum. mcheeew. I wish I know you in reality, I would have knock you!

ewu

ezeagu:


Look, I don't care about a radio station that doesn't exist today. I want to discuss innovations, not second hand equipment dashed to the Lagos office in the 50s. Eastern Nigeria was going through some industrialisation during the 1880s to 1900 which is why Calabar was the first capital. The palm industry is what started Nigeria and the trade was made by several ethnic groups in eastern Nigeria. The first anti-colonial movement, the Ekumeku movement, was initiated by Anioma-Igbo people. The biggest market of colonial Africa, Onitsha Main Market, still thrives today and now shares that title with Kumasi. I can't be bothered talking about industries that are completely dead today.

So Oluyole industrial estate is dead? the industries in Ikeja etc are dead?
Seems you don't know the difference between industrial estates & markets.
just keep rewriting history to suit yourself, it's a free world buddy

OkutaNla:


Besides, even Igbos depend on our seaports. Ask them why they prefer SW seaports to "Igweocha/PH", Warri and what's that other one again? Lol. Igbos would starve to death without importation of the mostly fake products that come in through SW ports since they can't do nothing else but trade for survival.

point of correction son,..! Igbos don't survive only on trade! Its jst dat for d fact dat dia population is humongous,dey seem 2 dominate trade in most parts,more ova,for an igbo man 2 beg at junctions,dey rada find one trade/crafts or d oda to engage in,includin d v physically challenged ones. Do u know dat igbos dominate convincingly in education in nigeria? And by extension in d whole technocrat pool of d country? Well,let's not move in2 entertainment,transport n so on. I tink it has 2 do wit a healthy n competive population.even Nairaland a yoruba owned site,igbo members more dan double yorubas in terms of numba, fact!

superstar1:


Ask those South Beasterners to show us how much Customs generated within their despicable region. Zilch

Lest I forget, God Almighty locked them up with Gully Erosion.

"Lest I forget, God Almighty locked them up with Gully Erosion"
This my friend is a knock out punch

Una Don finish the op.

What an upper cut.

Op oya run for yaaaaa life like ojukwu ......


Next question, what is the contribution of SE to the nation's economy?

WIZGUY69:



So Oluyole industrial estate is dead? the industries in Ikeja etc are dead?
Seems you don't know the difference between industrial estates & markets.
just keep rewriting history to suit yourself, it's a free world buddy

Does aren't the first industries in Nigeria are they?

Twistaray:
Next question, what is the contribution of SE to the nation's economy?

The base of the entire economy, oil and importation.

ezeagu:


Look, I don't care about a radio station that doesn't exist today. I want to discuss innovations, not second hand equipment dashed to the Lagos office in the 50s. Eastern Nigeria was going through some industrialisation during the 1880s to 1900 which is why Calabar was the first capital. The palm industry is what started Nigeria and the trade was made by several ethnic groups in eastern Nigeria. The first anti-colonial movement, the Ekumeku movement, was initiated by Anioma-Igbo people. The biggest market of colonial Africa, Onitsha Main Market, still thrives today and now shares that title with Kumasi. I can't be bothered talking about industries that are completely dead today.

Why do people in the east like to lie, Igbo especially?

You mentioned industrialization in the 1880s? . When your first set of educated people came to Lagos an Ogun state to school? When your first know graduate was Azikwe that graduated in 1930s?

Very laughable. You need history book. Do you know that a Yoruba man was among people that taught your forefathers how to write in Igbo ? And opened education forum through the missionary?

Please read about Bishop Ajayi Crowther from Osoogun in Oyo state.

veraponpo you came more than prepared for the guy

ezeagu:

Does aren't the first industries in Nigeria are they?

i don't know. which is the first industrial ESTATE! (not industries)?

veraponpo:


Why do people in the east like to lie, Igbo especially?

You mentioned industrialization in the 1880s? . When your first set of educated people came to Lagos an Ogun state to school? When your first know graduate was Azikwe that graduated in 1930s?

Very laughable. You need history book. Do you know that a Yoruba man was among people that taught your forefathers how to write in Igbo ? And opened education forum through the missionary?

Please read about Bishop Ajayi Crowther from Osoogun in Oyo state.

When the Ekumeku movement was going on, where was everyone else?

Ajayi Crowther was a repatriated slave from Sierra Leone. I'm sure you know of many slaves who are more popular than him. Yes, the palm oil industry was the main reason why Nigeria started.

Maybe you should read on your own history:

https://books.google.com/books?id=JXwPQKyE_YwC

WIZGUY69:



i don't know.
which is the first industrial ESTATE! (not industries)?

This is the nonsense I'm talking about.

[quote[s] author=mightyhaze post=39220456]point of correction son,..! Igbos don't survive only on trade! Its jst dat for d fact dat dia population is humongous,dey seem 2 dominate trade in most parts,more ova,for an igbo man 2 beg at junctions,dey rada find one trade/crafts or d oda to engage in,includin d v physically challenged ones. Do u know dat igbos dominate convincingly in education in nigeria? And by extension in d whole technocrat pool of d country? Well,let's not move in2 entertainment,transport n so on. I tink it has 2 do wit a healthy n competive population.even Nairaland a yoruba owned site,igbo members more dan double yorubas in terms of numba, fa[/s]ct! [/quote]


......Coming from a jobless IPOB youth.

ezeagu:

This is the nonsense I'm talking about.

dalu

ezeagu:


The base of the entire economy, oil and importation.

Could you please back you h9me made stats with facts?

Ehen I want burst another bubble tonight

Oya firebmake i see jade

Oneluvfuu o

https://www.nairaland.com/2516282/before-forget#down

Well, above is Yoruba contribution to Nigeria.

Their elites looted and shared the Nigerian commonwealth amongst themselves right after the war.

Most Yoruba old money wealth are rooted right on that singular historic event.

[b] Paul Anber's essay "Modernization and Political Disintegration: Nigeria and the Ibos" published in the journal of Modern African Studies vol. 5, No 2 (Sep, 1967) 163-179. See pp 171-172 for excerpt:
" '' A system of Universal primary education was introduced in Eastern Nigeria in 1953, though the mission schools had already prospered in the Region long before then. Despite the fact that there was a requirement for limited contributory fees, education continued to be very much in demand. Even at the time when universal primary education was first introduced, the percentage of the population over seven years of age who were literate was higher in the East than in any other Region: East, 10.6 per cent; West 9.5 percent; North, 0.9 percent. Since 1959, the East has had more teachers and pupils than any other area of the country, with the heaviest emphasis on primary education. Figures for elementary and secondary education indicate that the approximate ratio of teachers to population in 1963 was 1 to every 1,500 in the East, 1 to every 2,500 in th West, and 1 for every 10,000 in the north. Other statistical data reveal how rapidly the standard of living rose among Ibos. The East had the most extensive hospital facilities in the country by 1965, the largest regional production of electricity in the country by 1954, and the greatest number of vehicle registrations by 1963. The economic orientation of the Ibos was also reflected through membership of credit associations:in 1963 the East had 68,220 individual members, the west 5,776, and the north a mere 2,407." ''... His source was the Annual Abstract of
Statistics ( Federal Office of Statistics, Lagos, 1965) [/b]

https://www.nairaland.com/2497740/vintage-pictures-onitsha-anambra-before

Twistaray:



Could you please back you h9me made stats with facts?

Ehen I want burst another bubble tonight

Oya firebmake i see jade

Oneluvfuu o

Bust this bubble

[img]http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/nigeria_gas_1979.jpg[/img]

Nigerias exports

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kingzizzy:


The only thing of note in what you said is that there are more industries in Ogun state than the SE/SS. So Ogundipe state has more economic and commercial clout than Onitsha. Enlighten me. Where are these industries, is it in Abeokuta or where? What type of industries are in Ogundipe state. I'm intrigued

[/s]


I won't even dignify this ignorance with an answer..

I can see that Yorubas have started their usual chest beating, perhaps it's time we set things right again.

ezeagu:


Bust this bubble

[img]http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/africa/nigeria_gas_1979.jpg[/img]

Nigerias exports

Holy shiriiit what is this for crying out loud dude?

Are we talking about SS or SE here Mr?

Please knock on door when you are ready back your stats/claim with reality.

Ooooose

veraponpo:


You are correct. In fact , you did it so well that it seems you prepared for this before. The question that OP should have asked is 'what is missing in SW?' because we have almost everything, little wonder we have always been ahead of them all. Remember the period of Regional Government?

South West is the only region that has everything needed for survival:

1. Good and fertile land for agriculture

2. Water bodies from Atlantic Ocean and Lagoon in Lagos to Ondo State sea that passes Ogun State.

3. The Most industrialized region from Ogun as the hub of companies to Lagos as the Head Offices of all the major cpmpanies.

4. Natural resources- Bitumen, Oil, Gas, Columbite, Limestone, Gold, etc

5. Best Brains in the country- Accountants, Lawyers, Doctors, Professors, Professionals and professional bodies, etc

6. Educational Tourism- Almost all the best universities in Nigeria are in the south west- University of Ibadan, Obafemi Awolowo University, UNILAG, etc More than half of over 120 universities in Nigeria are in the South West with Ogun having about 15 and other states having about 8 each or more;

7 Religion Tourism- All the big churches and Islamic sects are in the SW- RCCG, CAC, Celestial, C& S, Deeper Life, Mountain of Fire, Winners, Sword of the Spirit, Day Star, etc with only RCCG having more than 7 million during conventions and Congress. Islamic sects like NASFAT with a university in Oshogbo, etc.

etc.

Please tell me of a region that comes close because none is comparable.

Yoruba man listen!!. "Igbos will eternally be ahead of you in most endeavors of life, because God and Nature ordained so". You yorubas know it, Hausa/Fulani know it, Igbos know it, and I from my global travels have come to know and understand it beyond doubt. It's self evident from Igbos wanting to secede while yorubas/hausa/fulani oppose, as the purest evidence to attest to that TRUTH. All those above contributions do not move any Igbo man a bit, simply because they don't reflect themselves in your per capital income or your real estate sub sector comparable with Igbo region. I have stated severally on this forum, the original reason Igbos started flooding down to lagos in recent times is rooted in yoruba envy of the nature of the Igbo man ( whose natural and measurable contributions to the Nation are unmatched by others) which manifested itself in the conspired/genocidal civil war against the Igbos as a means to express that envy Which led to wholesale marginalisation and under development of their infrastructures, sea ports airports and etc. Same thing is unfolding today as Igbos are once again ahead of you in most endeavors. So, mr. Yoruba man, you're contributions do NOT move any Igbo man a bit because, Igbos understand all what is all about period.

WIZGUY69:



......Coming from a jobless IPOB youth.

warreva, but let dose facts guide u n ur herds henceforth. I'l suggest u write dem out n memorize dem

ezeagu:


Look, I don't care about a radio station that doesn't exist today. I want to discuss innovations, not second hand equipment dashed to the Lagos office in the 50s. Eastern Nigeria was going through some industrialisation during the 1880s to 1900 which is why Calabar was the first capital. The palm industry is what started Nigeria and the trade was made by several ethnic groups in eastern Nigeria. The first anti-colonial movement, the Ekumeku movement, was initiated by Anioma-Igbo people. The biggest market of colonial Africa, Onitsha Main Market, still thrives today and now shares that title with Kumasi. I can't be bothered talking about industries that are completely dead today.

Igbos Lying And Its Negative Consequences For Them.

They tell outrageous lies to make them seem very important persons even as you evaluate them and see that they are not what they claim to be.


Igbos claim to be special. A wag quips: they are so special that they did not invent writing, the wheel or make any contribution to science and technology. When the world of science and technology is talked about they go missing! They did not even have the ability to develop an Igbo wide political state but instead lived in stateless villages!


http://chatafrik.com/articles/nigerian-affairs/igbos-lying-and-its-negative-consequences-for-them#.VdRlEDNw0jN

It's really a good thing that we know you people, your lies and empty and shallow chest beating......



lmao....

aresa:



Igbos Lying And Its Negative Consequences For Them.






It's really a good thing that we know you people, your lies and empty and shallow chest beating......



lmao....

How does this post change the fact that the palm oil industry started off Nigeria?

knowledgeable:



Yoruba man listen!!. "Igbos will eternally be ahead of you in most endeavors of life, because God and Nature ordained so". You yorubas know it, Hausa/Fulani know it, Igbos know it, and I from my global travels have come to know and understand it beyond doubt. It's self evident from Igbos wanting to secede while yorubas/hausa/fulani oppose, as the purest evidence to attest to that TRUTH. All those above contributions do not move any Igbo man a bit, simply because they don't reflect themselves in your per capital income or your real estate sub sector comparable with Igbo region. I have stated severally on this forum, the original reason Igbos started flooding down to lagos in recent times is rooted in yoruba envy of the nature of the Igbo man ( whose natural and measurable contributions to the Nation are unmatched by others) which manifested itself in the conspired/genocidal civil war against the Igbos as a means to express that envy Which led to wholesale marginalisation and under development of their infrastructures, sea ports airports and etc. Same thing is unfolding today as Igbos are once again ahead of you in most endeavors. So, mr. Yoruba man, you're contributions do NOT move any Igbo man a bit because, Igbos understand all what is all about period.

Another uncle under the tree home made stats.

Be mature dude and back your emotional stats with facts....

Let's see........

Mouth no do am