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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:26pm On Nov 05, 2015
royale442:
Can you compare how EPL and Bundesliga teams have faired in the UCL in the past ten years?
When I look at the UEFA coefficient it says the Buli is second and the EPL is 3rd at the risk of dropping to 4th
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:31pm On Nov 05, 2015
Its funny sha.

How someone can think a league where only one team has the highest chance of winning the title in a league of 18 teams is more competitive than a league where 3 teams ve the same equal chance of winning the title in a league of 20 teams??
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:35pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
Going by the past 10yrs if the trend continues we can say 3 teams would win EPL and 4 teams would win the Buli

Now tell me which is more competiton
If the trend continues till 2025, bayern would win it 7 or 8 times compared to the epl were it would be shared by those 3 teams
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dhellake: 5:36pm On Nov 05, 2015
Within the last 11years being discussed, 3 EPL teams have won the UCL, one of them haven't come close to winning the EPL.


It will be crayyzy for anyone to say the Bundesliga is more competitive than the EPL
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:37pm On Nov 05, 2015
dopeJemi:
If the trend continues till 2025, bayern would win it 7 or 8 times compared to the epl were it would be shared by those 3 teams
But the Buli would have 4 different teams out of 18 meaning 22% of the league have touched the trophy

While the EPL would have 3 out of 20 meaning 15% of the EPL teams would have touched the league title

Now tell which one is more competitive
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:40pm On Nov 05, 2015
Dhellake:
Within the last 11years being discussed, 3 EPL teams have won the UCL, one of them haven't come close to winning the EPL.

It will be crayyzy for anyone to say the Bundesliga is more competitive than the EPL
This is some extreme naivete on display. WHat has local league got to do with UCL

In the last 10yrs 0 French teams have won the CL yet 6 different teams have won the league

So what shows the league competitiveness the number of league winners or the number of CL winners
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:41pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
But the Buli would have 4 different teams out of 18 meaning 22% of the league have touched the trophy

While the EPL would have 3 out of 20 meaning 15% of the EPL teams would have touched the league title

Now tell which one is more competitive
Look at the number of trophies won by the teams and tell me which one is more competitive
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:42pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
When I look at the UEFA coefficient it says the Buli is second and the EPL is 3rd at the risk of dropping to 4th
As usual. When u are backed up into a corner, u bring up the UEFA coefficient. And quite frankly dats the only thing the Bundesliga has over the EPL.

The UEFA coefficient is a mere ranking that can change in the twinkle of an eye. And with Bundesliga teams poor showing in the UCL so far this season, Bundesliga is bound to drop in rankings in the long run. Already in the UCL this season, EPL 3:1 Bundesliga,

But u know something that can never change, the fact that the EPL has produced 5 different European Champions with 12 titles between them as opposed to the Bundesliga that has produced 3 different European Champions with a meagre 7 titles between them.

The EPL easily shîts on the Bundesliga.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by funlord(m): 5:42pm On Nov 05, 2015
cheesy

When nepotism backed predictions go wrong.........


“The way that Arsenal are defending, I am
confident that it won’t be one of these games
where Bayern are 3-0 up at half-time and it’s
just save face from there, because this lot can defend against the very best.”

Excellent work from Sky Sports‘ Charlie Nicholas just 8 minutes before kick-off yesterday before the 'goners' got MULLERED!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 5:44pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
That's what makes the league competitive when a team can aspire to be top 4 and play the CL

Unlike the useless epl that the top 4 position is always fixed.
mochengladbach bayern schalke Wolfsburg Leverkusen Dortmund those 7 teams can all make top 4

I can predict now that 3 of city arsenal chelsea and manure would make the top 4 again this season
lol
That's some competition grin
Bayern guaranteed to go home with title while the others scrap for the remaining places
Cool
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 5:44pm On Nov 05, 2015
codedguy1:
I now understand!

In the burnthisleaguedown, only Bayern plays to win the league while the rest teams compete for the remaining CL spot.
grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:46pm On Nov 05, 2015
dopeJemi:
Look at the number of trophies won by the teams and tell me which one is more competitive
The different winners is the determinant of how competitive a league is
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 5:49pm On Nov 05, 2015
Them don already expose epa before I come back sef grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:49pm On Nov 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
As usual. When u are backed up into a corner, u bring up the UEFA coefficient. And quite frankly dats the only thing the Bundesliga has over the EPL.

The UEFA coefficient is a mere ranking that can change in the twinkle of an eye. And with Bundesliga teams poor showing in the UCL so far this season, Bundesliga is bound to drop in rankings in the long run. Already in the UCL this season, EPL 3:1 Bundesliga,

But u know something that can never change, the fact that the EPL has produced 5 different European Champions with 12 titles between them as opposed to the Bundesliga that has produced 3 different European Champions with a meagre 7 titles between them.

The EPL easily shîts on the Bundesliga.
You bring up UEFA CL but I cant bring up coefficients issued by the same UEFA?

based on this season ALONE. Bundesliga has 6.85 EPL has 6 which shows that this season alone, Bundesliga has been doing better than the EPL in the UEFA ranking
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Dhellake: 5:49pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
This is some extreme naivete on display. WHat has local league got to do with UCL

In the last 10yrs 0 French teams have won the CL yet 6 different teams have won the league

So what shows the league competitiveness the number of league winners or the number of CL winners
If Bundesliga-Type competitiveness is your favorite type of competitiveness, then I'm sorry oooo.....


Cos I don't even see the Bundesliga like a competition and I don't think even Bayern fans sees it like a competition any longer.


And that says a lot about the league
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:50pm On Nov 05, 2015
PietroRico:
lol
That's some competition grin
Bayern guaranteed to go home with title while the others scrap for the remaining places
Cool
Competition is when 4 teams out of 18 win the league in 10yrs and the top 4 is unpredictable

Uncompeititive is when 3 out of 20 teams win the league in 10yrs and the top 4 is predictable
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:52pm On Nov 05, 2015
Dhellake:
If Bundesliga-Type competitiveness is your favorite type of competitiveness, then I'm sorry oooo.....

Cos I don't even see the Bundesliga like a competition and I don't think even Bayern fans sees it like a competition any longer.

And that says a lot about the league
3 out of 20 teams win the league that means 17 teams are hopeless

1-4 in EPL constant, 5-7 constant between Spurs Liverpool

That means what the league is about is just the 8-20 poisition. Shey na league be that?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:52pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
The different winners is the determinant of how competitive a league is
Dayo

League1
A- 20

B- 2

C- 1

D- 1

E- 2... that's 26years

League2
G- 7

H- 8

I- 6

J- 5... 26years

According to you Dayo, league 1 is more competitive, that's why I said it's just like asking you what 4 + 4 will give you and you say 6 knowing fully well it's 8.. I hail thee
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:54pm On Nov 05, 2015
dopeJemi:
Dayo

League1
A- 20

B- 2

C- 1

D- 1

E- 2... that's 26years

League2
G- 7

H- 8

I- 6

J- 5... 26years

According to you Dayo, league 1 is more competitive, that's why I said it's just like asking you what 4 + 4 will give you and you say 6 knowing fully well it's 4... I hail thee
So if your 4 + 4 = 4 then its no surprise that you think a league where the top 4 is constant is more competitive than one which the top 4 is unpredictable

Infact na me hail you pass cheesy cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 5:55pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
So if your 4 + 4 = 4 then its no surprise that you think a league where the top 4 is constant is more competitive than one which the top 4 is unpredictable

Infact na me hail you pass cheesy cheesy
Sorry I meant 8, with that logic up there, do you still think that the different winners determine how competitive a league is?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 5:58pm On Nov 05, 2015
dopeJemi:
Sorry I meant 8
if we cant trust you to simple arithmetic, then I am not surprised you think a league where the top 4 is constant is more competitive than one which the top 4 is unpredictable

Dope, you need Orheptal blood tonic cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 6:00pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
Competition is when 4 teams out of 18 win the league in 10yrs and the top 4 is unpredictable

Uncompeititive is when 3 out of 20 teams win the league in 10yrs and the top 4 is predictable
epa.. you and your mental gymnastics have hit a brick wall today
10 years is a long time.. Let's talk about the state of competition in both leagues RIGHT NOW
Just answer this easy question
The bpl where top 4 is relatively fixed and burnthisleaguedown where the winner is fixed, which is less competitive
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:01pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
What is this question
can 9 be greater than 10? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:01pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
You bring up UEFA CL but I cant bring up coefficients issued by the same UEFA?
I neva said u shouldn't bring up the coefficients na.

based on this season ALONE. Bundesliga has 6.85 EPL has 6 which shows that this season alone, Bundesliga has been doing better than the EPL in the UEFA ranking
U sef can see how close the ratings are. And dats only because of the Europa League. Currently, two grmerman teams top their groups and the third is last while the two english teams are 2nd.

In the UCL, English teams ve been better than the German teams hands down(3:1). And if it was left to the UCL alone, EPL for don overtake Bundesliga since.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:07pm On Nov 05, 2015
PietroRico:
epa.. you and your mental gymnastics have hit a brick wall today
10 years is a long time.. Let's talk about the state of competition in both leagues RIGHT NOW
Just answer this easy question
The bpl where top 4 is relatively fixed and burnthisleaguedown where the winner is fixed, which is less competitive
10yrs is a long time. ok In the past 8 seasons Buli has 4 winners and EPL has 3 winners

What is the state of competition you want us to talk about right now? That the Buli leaders molested the EPl joint table toppers and best defensiv team by 5 goals within 90mins?

is that recent enough?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:08pm On Nov 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
I neva said u shouldn't bring up the coefficients na.
U sef can see how close the ratings are. And dats only because of the Europa League. Currently, two grmerman teams top their groups and the third is last while the two english teams are 2nd.

In the UCL, English teams ve been better than the German teams hands down(3:1). And if it was left to the UCL alone, EPL for don overtake Bundesliga since.
Well I go by what UEFA says and it shows EPL is 3rd in the ranking

if it was left to the UCL alone it would show us that last season All 4 Buli teams made it out of their groups and 1 Buli team made the semi while 3 of 4 EPL teams made it out of their group and none made it to quarter finals
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 6:10pm On Nov 05, 2015
Them dey talk about state of league right now epa dey stretch am to 10 years.. You for just go back to the very beginning of the league

At the moment bayern are guaranteed winners and have been even before a ball was kicked but epa would have us believe they are more competitive because the scramble for the other spots is unpredictable.. Lol

Next he'll bring the tightness of their relegation battle to support his fallacious claims..

Yeye dey smell
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 6:10pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
Well I go by what UEFA says and it shows EPL is 3rd in the ranking
Not for long.

if it was left to the UCL alone it would show us that last season All 4 Buli teams made it out of their groups and 1 Buli team made the semi while 3 of 4 EPL teams made it out of their group and none made it to quarter finals
And if it was left to the UCL alone, it would show that Bundesliga teams cant even begin to lace EPL teams boots
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:12pm On Nov 05, 2015
PietroRico:
Them dey talk about state of league right now epa dey stretch am to 10 years.. You for just go back to the very beginning of the league

At the moment bayern are guaranteed winners and have been even before a ball was kicked but epa would have us believe they are more competitive because the scramble for the other spots is unpredictable.. Lol

Next he'll bring the tightness of their relegation battle to support his fallacious claims..

Yeye dey smell
If you are intellectually too lazy to string your arguments together without being insultive, then you can stay behind and watch others with better intellect raise their points

What is the state of league right now?

That the Buli leaders molested the EPl joint table toppers and best defensiv team by 5 goals within 90mins?

is that recent enough?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 6:14pm On Nov 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Not for long
Not for long till Italy probably overtakes them. This season EPL has 6 points Serie A has 5.5
If it All leagues end where they are today EPL falls to 4th
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by PietroRico(m): 6:15pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
10yrs is a long time. ok In the past 8 seasons Buli has 4 winners and EPL has 3 winners

What is the state of competition you want us to talk about right now? That the Buli leaders molested the EPl joint table toppers and best defensiv team by 5 goals within 90mins?


is that recent enough?
epa quit skipping your alzheimer medication, I beg of you
What has that got to do with anything
Quit with the unnecessary history yarns

I asked a simple question and I'll repeat

The bpl where top 4 is relatively fixed and burnthisleaguedown where the winner is fixed, which is less competitive

I'll paraphrase if that's too complex for you, stop staying off your meds though

Competition for the title and competition for CL places, which should be rated higher?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 6:17pm On Nov 05, 2015
raumdeuter:
if we cant trust you to simple arithmetic, then I am not surprised you think a league where the top 4 is constant is more competitive than one which the top 4 is unpredictable

Dope, you need Orheptal blood tonic cheesy
Lol, I was distracted, I was watching tv and typing at the same time... I have modified my post, answer the question I asked
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