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raumdeuter:
How many years of English football are you considering and how many years of german football? Are you taking over 120yrs of English football and comparing it to how many yrs of the Buli?

Man Utd won 3 in a row twice in the past 20yrs

Bayern and Monchengladbach are the only teams to ve both won the Bundesliga three times in a row. Bayern ve won the Bundesliga three times in a row on four different occasions as opposed to Monchengladbach's one. Now Bayern are about to be the first team to win it four times in row.

AdeLaNa1:
Since 1963 wen the Bundesliga was formed, United ve won 3 in a row twice to Liverpool's one.

Since 1963,


Do u still think the Bundesliga is more competitive than the EPL?? Yes or No.

raumdeuter:
a 5yr period is too restrictive and a 10yr period would be a better measure

If I choose between 07-11 a 5yr period where Man Utd won 4 titles Should I conclude based on that?

tess1:
Hahahahaha! The 5-yr period will be too restrictive when it didn`t favour your logic.

If we say we should look from inception of the leagues you`ll say it`s too far.

I can easily predict that Bayern will even win the next three league title. They will be breaking their record of consecutively winning the league title six times on a stretch.

raumdeuter:
When I watched the EPL in 2001 I predicted man utd would win another 3 to the 3 they just won but it never happened

The only thing that stopped another Man Utd 3 was A 93rd min Aguero goal in 2012

AdeLaNa1:
Janzaj is better than Memphis.

tess1:
That makes it unpredictable and competitive. Unlike Bundesliga where people already know Bayern will it even before 1/3rd of the matches were played.

Chelsea who a lot of pundits predicted will retain the title before the beginning of the league is no where to be found.

dimexilux:
I don't even know that some people do watch German league self. is there anything that is interesting in German league?? abeg let's forget dis matter jare. nothing dey competitive for German league. we already know d team dt will win d German league dis season. is dere anybody dt can be 100% sure of d team dt will win d EPL dis season?? mtcheew!!! even La ligo dey interesting pass dis yeye German league..

raumdeuter:
No difference.

Since the EPL started in 1992

Man utd won 13 times, Chelsea 4, Arsenal 3, City 2 Blackburn 1
Bayern 13 times, Dortmund 5, Bremen 2, Stuttgart 1, Wolfsburg 1 Kaiserslautern 1

Tell me which is more competitive

AdeLaNa1:
Stop shifting the time periods just to suit ur argument. English football did not start in 1992. And to give the Bundesliga a fighting chance, i made my case and compared both leagues from 1963 wen the Bundesliga was formed.

Anyways, In which kind of competitive league does the winner win the league by 25 points?? In the 12/13 season, Bayern finished the league with 99 points and Dortmund finished 2nd with 66. A whooping 25 point difference. Pls explain how that is competitive.

raumdeuter:
When I look at the UEFA coefficient it says the Buli is second and the EPL is 3rd at the risk of dropping to 4th

royale442:
compare the UEFA coefficient in past 10 seasons.

ollah1:
We also know who's gonna win EPL

raumdeuter:
Epl joint leaders arsenal at sitting at the bottom of the table below Zagreb and olympiakos

No be one of the epl leaders chop 5-1 yesterday

Even mochengladbach wey be debutant never concede 5 goals in one game despite playing in a group where everyone has more European experience

raumdeuter:
That only tells you that no one knows the future. After Van gall led bayern to almost winning a treble, everyone predicted we would stroll to the title, yet we didnt touch it again for the next 2 seasons

I can predict that the EPL title is staying in manchester

raumdeuter:
Neither did german football start in 1963. Heck they have even won a world cup before then

The season bayern finished 25points ahead they also won the CL easily beating everyone on the way which means they were not only too strong for Dortmund and Bundesliga but they are too strong for everyone in Europe

raumdeuter:
No difference.

Since the EPL started in 1992

Man utd won 13 times, Chelsea 4, Arsenal 3, City 2 Blackburn 1
Bayern 13 times, Dortmund 5, Bremen 2, Stuttgart 1, Wolfsburg 1 Kaiserslautern 1

Tell me which is more competitive

AdeLaNa1:
If u can predict the EPL will stay in Manchester, then its between two teams.
But i can predict the Bundesliga is staying in Munich this season.

dimexilux:
lol.... are u kidding me. ogbeni gboju oo. BTW, who do u think will win d EPL dis season?


I know u will pick Arsenal abi

raumdeuter:
There is no way I can check 10yrs coefficient. Can you go ahead and check it

tess1:
I can`t understand this your logic. What is applicable here is probability since the years of establishment of the leagues are different.

English Football League was established in 1888/89 (126 seasons ago). During these years Man United have win the league 20 times, Liverpool 18 times, Arsenal 13 times and Everton 9 times

Layman`s explanation as of now is that Man Utd will probably win the league every 6 yrs, Liverpool will win every 7 yrs, while Arsenal will win every 9.7 yrs (~10 yrs).

German league was established in 1963/64 (51seasons ago). Bayern won it 24 times, Monchengladbach won it 5 time, Dortmund won it 5 times.

Layman`s explanation as of now is that Bayern will win it every 2yrs, Monchengladbach will win it every 10yrs and Dortmund will also win it every 10yrs.

You can now see the competitiveness over the years of their respective establishment.

How can a team annex almost half of the league title a available and still say such league is competitive?

AdeLaNa1:
Naso. In the final dat yr, wasn't it the same Dortmund u topped by 25 points u beat??

tess1:
I can`t understand this your logic. What is applicable here is probability since the years of establishment of the leagues are different.
English Football League was established in 1888/89 (126 seasons ago). During these years Man United have win the league 20 times, Liverpool 18 times, Arsenal 13 times and Everton 9 times
Layman`s explanation as of now is that Man Utd will probably win the league every 6 yrs, Liverpool will win every 7 yrs, while Arsenal will win every 9.7 yrs (~10 yrs).
German league was established in 1963/64 (51seasons ago). Bayern won it 24 times, Monchengladbach won it 5 time, Dortmund won it 5 times.
Layman`s explanation as of now is that Bayern will win it every 2yrs, Monchengladbach will win it every 10yrs and Dortmund will also win it every 10yrs.
You can now see the competitiveness over the years of their respective establishment.
How can a team annex almost half of the league title a available and still say such league is competitive?

adebayo201:
Say no more, you've really exposed Dayo's weakness here but he wont just agree with you. So adamant ehn.

raumdeuter:
Munich also has multiple teams

adebayo201:
Say no more, you've really exposed Dayo's weakness here but he wont just agree with you. So adamant ehn.

raumdeuter:
You are assuming that German league football started in 1963. Germany have won the world cup before 1963 they were playing European cup(E.g Frankfurt played a European cup final in 1960, So if there was no league how were they qualifying for the European cup and grooming players for the world cup)
There has been a league in Germany as far back as 1903 112yrs ago.
The league was restructured in 1963 just like EPL was changed in 1992.
Since restructure Bayern have won slightly less than 50% of the titles
Since restructure of the English league There have been 23 championships and man Utd have won 13 of it (56%)
Now tell me which one is more competitive