Which country is the strongest in the middle east?

Would it be Egypt or Iran?

iblawi:
Which country is the strongest in the middle east?

Would it be Egypt or Iran?

Turkey/Israel

jln115:

Turkey/Israel

Lol

Turkey is more of Europe but Isreal is also a force to reckon with.

iblawi:


Lol

Turkey is more of Europe but Isreal is also a force to reckon with.

Turkey is most definitely a Middle Eastern country mate!! Anyway very difficult to pick between the two.

iblawi:
Which country is the strongest in the middle east?

Would it be Egypt or Iran?

Israel

jln115:

Turkey/Israel

Israel has more battle prowess and experience than the turks.
The only blemish is that Israel is heavily dependent on western inputs for its military industrial complex and it also has less available manpower than Turkey.

iblawi:

Lol
Turkey is more of Europe but Isreal is also a force to reckon with.

Yeah,but turkey is now seeking to assert itself as the leader of a united islamic confederation(like in the old times),the turks know that they cannot hold any significant political supretendence in Europe,their only option is to assert authority over the rapidly crumbling middle-east and challenge other regional powers.Turkey is the most democratic middle-eastern country,with a military force that rivals that of Israel: it is also endowed with a vibrant economy,social stability and cultural diversity.

Patchesagain:


[size=15pt]FALSE

Not only do more South Africans have access to piped water than Nigerians
Access to piped potable water % by country:
South Africa - 93%
Nigeria - 69%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.H2O.SAFE.ZS

But this number has GROWN by 2/3 since 1994
http://www.iwaponline.com/wpt/005/0112/0050112.pdf

Not only are we better than you - but we have grown since 1994

Nigerians tell each other they are the giants of Africa, while drinking from the local pond [/size]

Patrick, Patrick , the White boy enfeebled by primitive Zulus. What are you afraid of ? You lousy coward of a Muppet.

Nigerians all have piped water in their homes we are not as dry and as government dependent as Zulus and their master-cum-slaves.

I Nigeria we take water for granted. Every building is naturally expected to erect a piped water facility before it is deemed completed.

Spithbafrica is a dry country with water shedding. In fact South Africa is the world's 30th driest country with unflushable toilets and pollution.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-06-25-water-shedding-feel-it-it-is-almost-here/


SOUTH AFRICA RUNS TO THE DANISH FOR WATER SOLUTION AND PATRICK, THE WATER-DESTITUTE IS HAVING US BELIEVE THAT SOUTH AFRICA HAS WATER

Not only does south Africa unable to provide water for a mere 50 million population, they have shamelessly cried for help to Europeans who just left power 2 decades ago
http://allafrica.com/stories/201511030259.html

Well I still think Egypt is bitting more than it can chew in that region. They buy almost all their military equipment without producing anything. I don't think I can compare them to Iran, Turkey or Isreal and I don't even think they can fight war that will span a year with any of these countries.

Iran for instance build submarine and several missile with many other equipments. Isreal and Turkey are also technologically advanced and can also build their weapons. While Egypt spend on the most expensive equipment they can't even maintain except with assistance of other countries.

Now look at the mistral class carriers, mig35, mig 29, Rafael, type 219 submarine and other equipments they bought, they are really good but I doubt if they can really operate these equipment the way they should.

MTN Group President and Chief Executive Officer, Sifiso Dabengwa, resigned on Monday morning over the N1.04tn fine imposed on MTN Nigeria by the country’s regulatory body – the Nigerian Communications Commission.

A credible source at the MTN Group office told our correspondent that the company subsequently appointed ‎Phuthuma Nhleko as Executive Chairman in a temporary capacity.

He said Nhleko, the current Non-executive Chairman, has agreed to act as Executive Chairman for a maximum period of six months while the company identifies a successor for Dabengwa.

A copy of Dabengwa’s resignation letter was made available to our correspondent.

‎It read in parts, “Due to the most unfortunate prevailing circumstances occurring at MTN Nigeria, I, in the interest of the company and its shareholders, have tendered my resignation with immediate effect.”

Officials at MTN said Nhleko was no stranger to the business as he served as non-executive director and chairman of MTN from July 2001 until June 2002 and thereafter as an executive director, Group president and CEO until March 2011. He has subsequently chaired the Group in a non-executive capacity for the past two and a half years (since May 29, 2013).

“I will assume responsibility as Executive Chairman for the next six months as I proactively deal with the Nigerian regulator and will continue to work with them in addressing the issues around unregistered subscribers as a matter of urgency,” Nhleko said in his acceptance letter.

The PUNCH gathered that Mr. Alan van Biljon would continue to serve as the Lead Independent Director on the MTN board of directors (MTN Board), while Nhleko takes over executive responsibility.

“Together with the MTN Board, my second priority will be to find an appropriate Chief Executive Officer to take MTN forward. I will then revert to my Non-executive Chairman role,” Nhleko added.

‎”Stakeholders are reminded that MTN will continue to inform them of any material engagements with the Nigerian authorities via the Stock Exchange News Service of the JSE Limited.

“Shareholders are advised to continue to exercise caution when dealing in the company’s securities until a further announcement is made,” the source added.‎












MTN is in trouble already. ....

iblawi:
Well I still think Egypt is bitting more than it can chew in that region. They buy almost all their military equipment without producing anything. I don't think I can compare them to Iran, Turkey or Isreal and I don't even think they can fight war that will span a year with any of these countries.

Iran for instance build submarine and several missile with many other equipments. Isreal and Turkey are also technologically advanced and can also build their weapons. While Egypt spend on the most expensive equipment they can't even maintain except with assistance of other countries.

Now look at the mistral class carriers, mig35, mig 29, Rafael, type 219 submarine and other equipments they bought, they are really good but I doubt if they can really operate these equipment the way they should.

Yesterday, Sunday I watched a news on Aljazeera on egypt completing there multi-billion " bulk missile " deal with russia. I don't know if they are really preparing for war or something?

bidexiii:


Yesterday, Sunday I watched a news on Aljazeera on egypt completing there multi-billion " bulk missile " deal with russia. I don't know if they are really preparing for war or something?

They always buy more of everything which is a sign that they are scared and they don't know what they are doing. A good example is Saudi forces

bidexiii:


Yesterday, Sunday I watched a news on Aljazeera on egypt completing there multi-billion " bulk missile " deal with russia. I don't know if they are really preparing for war or something?

The only thing that could be the reason is that they don't want to rely on US any more for weapons. I believe they want to strike a balance between the west and east.

iblawi:
Which country is the strongest in the middle east?

Would it be Egypt or Iran?

Egypt

lezz:
[s]Patrick, Patrick , the White boy enfeebled by primitive Zulus. What are you afraid of ? You lousy coward of a Muppet.

Nigerians all have piped water in their homes we are not as dry and as government dependent as Zulus and their master-cum-slaves.

I Nigeria we take water for granted. Every building is naturally expected to erect a piped water facility before it is deemed completed.

Spithbafrica is a dry country with water shedding. In fact South Africa is the world's 30th driest country with unflushable toilets and pollution.

http://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2015-06-25-water-shedding-feel-it-it-is-almost-here/


SOUTH AFRICA RUNS TO THE DANISH FOR WATER SOLUTION AND PATRICK, THE WATER-DESTITUTE IS HAVING US BELIEVE THAT SOUTH AFRICA HAS WATER

Not only does south Africa unable to provide water for a mere 50 million population, they have shamelessly cried for help to Europeans who just left power 2 decades ago
http://allafrica.com/stories/201511030259.html[/s]

Access to piped potable water % by country:
South Africa - 93%
Nigeria - 69%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.H2O.SAFE.ZS

These are the facts

Deal with it

Patchesagain:


Access to piped potable water % by country:
South Africa - 93%
Nigeria - 69%
http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/SH.H2O.SAFE.ZS

These are the facts

Deal with it

I thought you went to school Patrick.

Access doesn't mean availability or quality water as your ANC government will have you believe . Here's an excerpt from a team of critics who specialise in bursting the fables told by the ANC :

[b]ACCESS TO A TAP DOES NOT MEAN ACCESS TO WATER

And there is another issue besides the number with access to “piped water”. According to Scott, the department of water works on the assumption that if people have access to a tap, they have access to water. “When we talk about piped water, we are normally referring to infrastructure and people have access to water coming out of that infrastructure,” he told Africa Check.

However, according to Oliver Ive, a water and sanitation engineer and MD of Amanz’ abantu Services, a private company involved in rural water supply and sanitation projects, “the fact that someone has a tap doesn’t mean they have clean water or access to piped water”.

“If you put a pump or a service in a village, is it still working in five years time? Government will say that they have spent the money on infrastructure and the people have access, but if you go out and physically check if those taps are delivering water, and quality water, the answer is probably no.
[/b]

We all know that the ANC is more proficient in falsifying figures than running a government. https://africacheck.org/reports/claim-that-94-of-south-aclaim-that-94-in-sa-have-access-to-safe-drinking-water-doesnt-hold-water/


Water access in Nigeria remains at 75% http://wholives.org/

For SOUTH AFRICA :

Only 27% have access to piped water on site.

while 16% use communal taps and 3% use neighbours taps.

Stats SA, who compiled the survey, said: "It is a cause for concern that 2.3% of households still had to resort to sourcing drinking water from rivers, streams and dams.”


The SAHRC's report meanwhile found that regional shortcomings tended to "mirror apartheid spatial geography".
Patrick, this means that only your white masters have drinking water. The rest of zulus are water-destitutes as tasty as wild lions in the serengati



The report found that 1.4m households had yet to be provided with sanitation services – including 12.5% of all households in the Eastern Cape. While in KZN, 14% of households have never had access to water


Almost a third of households in KZN felt their water smelled bad, compared to just 3% of Northern Cape households. When I say zulus don't have water, I mean they can't even bath properly. So the Anglo-Dutch has a water level of 95% while the rest of the country is less than 50%.


Out of the 931 water systems within the 153 municipalities audited in 2012, just 98 systems obtained Blue Drop Certification for the 2012 reporting cycle.

According to the SAHRC’s report, a key issue with access to water is the poor quality of infrastructure delivered by local governments.


http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SAs-water-supply-how-safe-and-accessible-is-it-20140604
There you have it my boy, I just gave you a complete breakdown of your country's water distribution and quality. If you love facts like you claimed, you will own up and stop being a little greedy _bastard with no grace of honour.

EVarn:
Israel has more battle prowess and experience than the turks.
The only blemish is that Israel is heavily dependent on western inputs for its military industrial complex and it also has less available manpower than Turkey.

You pretty much hit the nail on the head mate! Although I do feel Israel isn't any more dependent on Western Equipment than Turkey is.

iblawi:
Well I still think Egypt is bitting more than it can chew in that region. They buy almost all their military equipment without producing anything. I don't think I can compare them to Iran, Turkey or Isreal and I don't even think they can fight war that will span a year with any of these countries.

Iran for instance build submarine and several missile with many other equipments. Isreal and Turkey are also technologically advanced and can also build their weapons. While Egypt spend on the most expensive equipment they can't even maintain except with assistance of other countries.

Now look at the mistral class carriers, mig35, mig 29, Rafael, type 219 submarine and other equipments they bought, they are really good but I doubt if they can really operate these equipment the way they should.

Jap!! Personally I don't know how they are going to train the necessary personal to operate all these platforms, especially the Mistrals which they never even planned to buy in the first place.

jln115:

Jap!! Personally I don't know how they are going to train the necessary personal to operate all these platforms, especially the Mistrals which they never even planned to buy in the first place.

They could delay the delivery and send Trainees to France to be trained there for a couples of months.

lezz:
[s]I thought you went to school Patrick.

Access doesn't mean availability or quality water as your ANC government will have you believe . Here's an excerpt from a team of critics who specialise in bursting the fables told by the ANC :

[b]ACCESS TO A TAP DOES NOT MEAN ACCESS TO WATER

And there is another issue besides the number with access to “piped water”. According to Scott, the department of water works on the assumption that if people have access to a tap, they have access to water. “When we talk about piped water, we are normally referring to infrastructure and people have access to water coming out of that infrastructure,” he told Africa Check.

However, according to Oliver Ive, a water and sanitation engineer and MD of Amanz’ abantu Services, a private company involved in rural water supply and sanitation projects, “the fact that someone has a tap doesn’t mean they have clean water or access to piped water”.

“If you put a pump or a service in a village, is it still working in five years time? Government will say that they have spent the money on infrastructure and the people have access, but if you go out and physically check if those taps are delivering water, and quality water, the answer is probably no.
[/b]

We all know that the ANC is more proficient in falsifying figures than running a government. https://africacheck.org/reports/claim-that-94-of-south-aclaim-that-94-in-sa-have-access-to-safe-drinking-water-doesnt-hold-water/


Water access in Nigeria remains at 75% http://wholives.org/

For SOUTH AFRICA :

Only 27% have access to piped water on site.

while 16% use communal taps and 3% use neighbours taps.

Stats SA, who compiled the survey, said: "It is a cause for concern that 2.3% of households still had to resort to sourcing drinking water from rivers, streams and dams.”


The SAHRC's report meanwhile found that regional shortcomings tended to "mirror apartheid spatial geography".
Patrick, this means that only your white masters have drinking water. The rest of zulus are water-destitutes as tasty as wild lions in the serengati



The report found that 1.4m households had yet to be provided with sanitation services – including 12.5% of all households in the Eastern Cape. While in KZN, 14% of households have never had access to water


Almost a third of households in KZN felt their water smelled bad, compared to just 3% of Northern Cape households. When I say zulus don't have water, I mean they can't even bath properly. So the Anglo-Dutch has a water level of 95% while the rest of the country is less than 50%.


Out of the 931 water systems within the 153 municipalities audited in 2012, just 98 systems obtained Blue Drop Certification for the 2012 reporting cycle.

According to the SAHRC’s report, a key issue with access to water is the poor quality of infrastructure delivered by local governments.


http://m.news24.com/news24/SouthAfrica/News/SAs-water-supply-how-safe-and-accessible-is-it-20140604
There you have it my boy, I just gave you a complete breakdown of your country's water distribution and quality. If you love facts like you claimed, you will own up and stop being a little greedy _bastard with no grace of honour.[/s]

World bank data > Opinion

Centrifude:


They could delay the delivery and send Trainees to France to be trained there for a couples of months.

Guess they could do that...... but one thing we also have to remember is the fact that the ships were built to Russian standards, thus it could mean that Egypt will very likely have to completely refit both ships!!!!

agaugust:


Egypt

Bros why did you pick Egypt?

Centrifude:


They could delay the delivery and send Trainees to France to be trained there for a couples of months.

Their would be complications cos it was not meant for them in the first place. Russians were supposed to have their own input.

jln115:

You pretty much hit the nail on the head mate! Although I do feel Israel isn't any more dependent on Western Equipment than Turkey is.

Very correct,however,the turks have a more diversified western and even eastern technology acquisition,Israel seem to be overly fixated on US technology.

EVarn:
Very correct,however,the turks have a more diversified western and even eastern technology acquisition,Israel seem to be overly fixated on US technology.

Jap i definitely get what your saying mate, being diversified obviously has its advantages, but come war time, i feel being self sustainable is your greatest weapon....and in this regard Israel comes out tops between the two!!

iblawi:

Bros why did you pick Egypt?

he forgot they got annihilated by Isreal 3 times in a row

[size=15pt]One of the mighty Valor Class to be sent to India and China to take part in a fleet review as well as military exercises with both [/size]

you jelly? you should be

jln115:

Jap i definitely get what your saying mate, being diversified obviously has its advantages, but come war time, i feel being self sustainable is your greatest weapon....and in this regard Israel comes out tops between the two!!

Of course!,it is non-negotiable that Israel has the strongest military force in the middle-east.
They have the most advanced military industrial complex in the arabian sub-continent,owing to years of joint R& programmes with many of the world's most technologically advanced nations.
Isreal has both ICBM(missile) and nuclear technology,coupled with exotic technologies like AESA,submarine and aeronautics.

jln115:

Guess they could do that...... but one thing we also have to remember is the fact that the ships were built to Russian standards, thus it could mean that Egypt will very likely have to completely refit both ships!!!!

Yeah I also think that would be the problem because those ships are basically incomplete, but I'm guessing Egypt already thought of that (hopefully) I bet France nd Egyptian Engineering could manage to fill in all the missing components, it probably won't be as good as what the Russians were planning to put in them, but they will make them work.

iblawi:


Their would be complications cos it was not meant for them in the first place. Russians were supposed to have their own input.

Yes the Russians were suppose to put in their own Radar, Armaments nd stuff like that... But I'm sure its nothing France can't provide for Egypt

iblawi:

Bros why did you pick Egypt?

Egypt is too powerful for any country that is not a major world power.

About 200 F-16 jets, 24 Rafale jets, 50 Apache helicopter gunship, 9 AWACS aircraft, 1,000 Abrams tanks and 30,000 armoured vehicles, artillery and missile launchers, dozens of missile armed frigates, corvettes, torpedo armed submarines, ballistic missiles, cruise missiles and 1.5 million soldiers.

Who can challenge Egypt today? Even Israel is careful with today's Egypt.

Patchesagain:


he forgot they got annihilated by Isreal 3 times in a row

Last war was a draw, no winner. Btwn, Egypt is far better armed and trained today. I guess South Africa too can try fight Israel and know what Egypt faced. South Africa has not won any war in it's modern history.