Katsumoto:


So your position is that these governors should continue to borrow billions to pay salaries??

You continue to overlook my points.

1. Politicians in the US actually deliver which is unlike naija policians
2. The current situation isn't sustainable. We already have several states that can't pay salaries
3. There is wastage, mismanagement and corruption. Eliminating these would free up funds



Nigeria can not progress if things don't change. You can't expect things to improve while expecting the status quo to remain. It is that simple. There is no need to re-invent the wheel. Nigeria need only look at what obtains in developed nations. I don't buy all these 'Nigerian factor' excuses.

Otherwise lets just wait until things get really bad.

Something is certain. There has to be a paradigm shift. The model we are running it's obviously not sustainable. It can only lead to one thing and which is calamity that can result into all of us being ship away into slavery, if care is not taken.

Our leaders need to take the hard decisions for us to have a better tomorrow for ourselves and a greater future for our kids. The masses cum followers should also realise these are desperate times that calls for unusual and desperate acts.

Those desperate acts include cutting the civil service to reduce the over head cost, having a leaner, efficient and mor productive workforce, stoppage of stomach infrastructure, wasting of public funds on pilgrimage, construction of 1km of road for 1billion like in my state (Osun), nepotism. etc

We only need one God fearing, selfless and sincere creative brain to turn things around. Just 1. We need a ruthless and passionate leadership that will be fair and justice to all and also have the balls to do the unthinkable for us to achieve the unbelievable.

IlekeHD:


Gbagbe e ke?

Why would I mention you if I did?

Welcome on board.

Ok mo tigbo o

How have you been ?

I am happy everyone now see the urgent need to cut the civil service down, on 80% i stand. Heaven will not fall.

Most of these governors have at least 3yrs to spend in office, sack 80% of the civil service, use the money saved to turn the state around, in 2yrs everyone would have forgotten about it

superstar1:


Something is certain. There has to be a paradigm shift. The model we are running it's obviously not sustainable. It can only lead to one thing and which is calamity that can result into all of us being ship away into slavery, if care is not taken.

Our leaders need to take the hard decisions for us to have a better tomorrow for ourselves and a greater future for our kids. The masses cum followers should also realise these are desperate times that calls for unusual and desperate acts.

Those desperate acts include cutting the civil service to reduce the over head cost, having a leaner, efficient and mor productive workforce, stoppage of stomach infrastructure, wasting of public funds on pilgrimage, construction of 1km of road for 1billion like in my state (Osun), nepotism. etc

We only need one God fearing, selfless and sincere creative brain to turn things around. Just 1. We need a ruthless and passionate leadership that will be fair and justice to all and also have the balls to do the unthinkable for us to achieve the unbelievable.

Exactly

Things are bad now with free money from the center. What happens when free money disappears??

Yoruba ronu

Bluetooth2:


Ok mo tigbo o

How have you been ?

I've been good o. Ki lo sele? Ijo kan mo ri ID e, Ijo keji nko ri e moh.

I hope that nkan n lo dede.

IyaIode:
I am happy everyone now see the urgent need to cut the civil service down, on 80% i stand. Heaven will not fall

Its not like its a productive civil service anyway.

Most states have more ministeries than England but in Nigeria its only a few ministeries such as lands, works, education that even put up mediocre service. The remaining miniteries are filled with ghost workers.

Katsumoto:


Its not like its a productive civil service anyway.

Most states have more ministeries than England but in Nigeria its only a few ministeries such as lands, works, education that even put up mediocre service. The remaining miniteries are filled with ghost workers.

LMAOOO

Katsumoto:
So your position is that these governors should continue to borrow billions to pay salaries??.

What i said below

raumdeuter:
I dont have an issue if the money were used to build infrastructures or tourism idea. The one I find terrible was when a governor took loans to pay salary and would go back there to take more loans to pay another set of salaries in 30days time

You continue to overlook my points.

1. Politicians in the US actually deliver which is unlike naija policians
2. The current situation isn't sustainable. We already have several states that can't pay salaries
3. There is wastage, mismanagement and corruption. Eliminating these would free up funds

How many politicians in the US deliver? Most of them benefit from a system that works that has been put in place before they were born.
As you can see US govt spending on welfare is gradually increasing and debt piling up. Its actually a major talking point now. And they are having a similar debate in US politics reducing entitlements and the lack of political will to do so because of electoral backlash

2. We are in agreement, the current situation is unsustainable. Creating those states was a mistake, Having such huge work force is a mistake, having unhindered migration is a mistake. BUT how do we resolve it REALISTICALLY within the Nigerian context ?

3. There are wastage and the corruption which has been encouraged by the system and its not going to change suddenly, Maybe Buhari might reduce a bit of corruption but the system as it is set up encourages wastage, mismanagement and unless there is a military like fiat. It would change several years to change it

Nigeria can not progress if things don't change. You can't expect things to improve while expecting the status quo to remain. It is that simple. There is no need to re-invent the wheel. Nigeria need only look at what obtains in developed nations. I don't buy all these 'Nigerian factor' excuses.

Otherwise lets just wait until things get really bad

The reality is that, there is a Nigerian factor in issues both in Public sector and private sector. Personal lives and business. Most people who have come from developed nations to try fix issues in Nigeria have always found it extremely difficult because of this Nigerian factor and have had to run back. the ones who succeed are those who factor in the Nigerian factor

We got where we are over 40years. When Awolowo was ruling. People were more honest, hardworking, trustworthy and basically Omoluabi's The truth now is its very different now. People are more dishonest, scumbags and lazy nowadays

How many of the populace want to really sweat and work hard? When we were young we used to sing Poems like Mura sise ore mi ise la fin di eni giga Now everyone is looking for a cheap contract, become a pastor etc

To ease the burden on the state govt. There has to be alternative employment in the private sector and this can be possible if we have stable electricity and infrastructures.

Atimes i hope Oil and oil income suddnly stops so everyone would know there is a real crisis

Katsumoto:


Exactly

Things are bad now with free money from the center. What happens when free money disappears??

Yoruba ronu

Necessity is the mother of invention. Dried up free funds will lead to deep thinking that will blow away mind to produce superlative ideas. failure to do so, is an invitation to annihilation of our nation or servitude to only God knows whom.

We are at that stage now.

Japan had to think out of the box, after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Germany had to after world war 2.

As at 1950, China and the Asian Tigers were commonwealth nations of nobodies.

We need a leadership that can make us get our act together, galvanise us to make the necessary sacrifices for posterity sake and drive us to do the unthinkable and achieve the unbelievable.

Aareonakakanfo:



Maaaaaan! Why do you keep bringing this guy back? You don't have to reply

so sorry!
before I realized that I was given him undue attention is Too late.
I realized that replying that kinda of things make it kinds to think they are somebody.
infact it ilks doesn't even worth writing Epistle.

Katsumoto:


Its not like its a productive civil service anyway.

Most states have more ministeries than England but in Nigeria its only a few ministeries such as lands, works, education that even put up mediocre service. The remaining miniteries are filled with ghost workers.

Other than teachers and doctors, the rest are absolutely useless. The sad part is that these states don't even have enough doctors and teachers while they fill up government house with redundant elements.

You employ 300 engineers in the ministry of housing, that has not constructed a latrine while the ministry of health has 18 doctors, one for every local government

superstar1:


Necessity is the mother of invention. Dried up free funds will lead to deep thinking that will blow away mind to produce superlative ideas. failure to do so, is an invitation to annihilation of our nation or servitude to only God knows whom.

We are at that stage now.

Japan had to think out of the box, after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Germany had to after world war 2.

As at 1950, China and the Asian Tigers were commonwealth nations of nobodies.

We need a leadership that can make us get our act together, galvanise us to make the necessary sacrifices for posterity sake and drive us to do the unthinkable and achieve the unbelievable.

I don't share your optimism re dried up recenue. Just remember all those African states such as Mali, Burkina, Senegal that have no rich mineral resources. Also remember a perpetually poor man can handle poverty better than a man who was rich once.

In addition, nigerians dont have the work ethos of Asians. Just visit china, vietnam, korea, etc then you will understand how they were able to leapfrog Nigeria.

IlekeHD:


I've been good o. Ki lo sele? Ijo kan mo ri ID e, Ijo keji nko ri e moh.

I hope that nkan n lo dede.

Ni bo lo ti ri mi ? Mo kan busy gan ni

Iwo nko ?

IyaIode:

Other than teachers and doctors, the rest are absolutely useless. The sad part is that these states don't even have enough doctors and teachers while they fill up government house with redundant elements.

You employ 300 engineers in the ministry of housing, that has not constructed a latrine while the ministry of health has 18 doctors, one for every local government

Even the teachers sef Lets be honest how many of them are really productive?

Anyone who wants to succed now send their wards to private schools.

Some of those teachers are not even competent to teach anything others are simply teaching unproductive subjects.

You have 2 Maths teachers, 12 CRK/IRK teachers. Lol where is that going?

IlekeHD:

I have to say though, I like Ondo/Osun roads.

the roads in ondo/osun are OK though. but Not really complicated like the ones in Lagos, Ibadan.

Katsumoto:


I don't share your optimism re dried up recenue. Just remember all those African states such as Mali, Burkina, Senegal that have no rich mineral resources. Also remember a perpetually poor man can handle poverty better than a man who was rich once.

I almost agree with Superstar. As long as there is free money coming from the center, little would change.

raumdeuter:


Even the teachers sef Lets be honest how many of them are really productive?

Anyone who wants to succed now send their wards to private schools.

Some of those teachers are not even competent to teach anything others are simply teaching unproductive subjects.

You have 2 Maths teachers, 12 CRK/IRK teachers. Lol where is that going?

Lobatan

IlekeHD:

Look at the road markings E be like say the person was drunk.

the road markings wasn't straight right?

Bluetooth2:


Ni bo lo ti ri mi ? Mo kan busy gan ni

Iwo nko ?

To be honest for a while, I thought you were Aareonakakanfo....same personality.

Lol let's stop asking about unimportant me jare. What's your take on the current discussion.

What's your position on Tinubu/Fashola's interest in the Yoruba nation?

Katsumoto:


I don't share your optimism re dried up recenue. Just remember all those African states such as Mali, Burkina, Senegal that have no rich mineral resources. Also remember a perpetually poor man can handle poverty better than a man who was rich once.

We have untapped resources and even our human capacity is a resource on it's own. There is therefore a cause for optimism, rather than being gloomy and downcast.

We have Gas, Gold, Bitumen, Limestone etc, the baba of them all -- good and fertile land with huge untapped potential in tourism.

If Israel could have 1/5th of those, they would have turned that desert into heaven.

We need to find a way to decentralise government first and put a stop to this barbaric dishing out of ''Egbo 90 and Ewa 10'' that FG does every month for the states, like boarding house students. It encourages looting because it is a free fund and it also promotes laziness and mediocrity.

superstar1:


We have untapped resources and even our human capacity is a resource on it's own. There is therefore a cause for optimism, rather than being gloomy and downcast.

We have Gas, Gold, Bitumen, Limestone etc, the baba of them all -- good and fertile land with huge untapped potential in tourism.

If Israel could have 1/5th of those, they would have turned that desert into heaven,

Nigeria wont go far if the backup to oil are other mineral resources. The thinking should be more along creativity lines visavis Germany, Switzerland, korea etc

WIZGUY69:



the roads in ondo/osun are OK though.
but Not really complicated like the ones in Lagos, Ibadan.

Complex population complex road architecture lol

Katsumoto:


Nigeria wont go far if the backup to oil are other mineral resources. The thinking should be more along creativity lines visavis Germany, Switzerland, korea etc

Yeah today's most valuable resource all over the world is the human capacity of any nation. That is the strength of Germany Korea, Switzerland, Israel and even India now.

As a Yoruba Nation we can never be found wanting in this arena. People on this thread have posted profiles of yorubas with incredible and rich profiles, both at home and in diaspora.

Before this can be tapped and harnessed effectively, a system of governance that makes us to be in control of our destiny must be in place first. How many of those YID (Yorubas In Diaspora) would like to come back and serve Nigeria in this messed up state.They might be more than willing to serve a Yoruba Nation/Region because that is their root, even if they will not be paid.

nduchucks:


Are you the old Ilekeidi, Desola, or another ....... ?

Desola

IlekeHD:


I'm surprised you're not a daddy yet. You keep talking about girls and babies.

Last I heard, shollypopz was......::::.....

And why do you want me to be a daddy so bad? I almost made that mistake I was like 20, but I can look back now and thank the most high for dodging a bullet albeit that would've led to a change of lifestyle and focus cos of the responsibilities that come with it. However, my life would've been miserable.

It's not always how far but how well - that was what my pops told me. And I'd rather make babies with a chic who has the same outlook, is loyal, respect my opinions, can be a good partner and great mum - than just any chicken-head that will end up making the rest of my life miserable.

Darn! My shollypopz, the female amazon - I miss my dargy. That's the real homie and the female poster I like the most on this forum lol. Sholly has fire in her. Ol'girl just always tend to go ghost every time we've a big disagreement.

IlekeHD:


Complex population complex road architecture lol

- ilekeHD (2015)

IlekeHD:


Complex population complex road architecture lol

- ilekeHD (2015)

modath:


I have never seen you use the same expression for doing THE DO more than once.....

If you missed the post, have to do it again....& since you love GIF ..... Dro standing up for me...


cc; Wizguy69

Lol.

I'm just a walking ebonics/slang dictionary lol.

Do you want me to edit it and change it to something U-rated?

Katsumoto:




Nigerian banks can't be SME friendly because
1. They are/were making so much money from the government
2. The environment is conducive for it with high inflation and excess liquidity in circulation.

& the most heartbreaking part is when one sees these SME people (that their account officers have promised to move heaven & earth for,) running helter skelter, back & forth banking halls submitting docs, providing guarantors, etc for facilities you sure as hell know isn't going to be granted but can't tell them..

Shymm3x:


And why do you want me to be a daddy so bad? I almost made that mistake I was like 20, but I can look back now and thank the most high for dodging a bullet albeit that would've led to a change of lifestyle and focus cos of the responsibilities that come with it. However, my life would've been miserable.

It's not always how far but how well - that was what my pops told me. And I'd rather make babies with a chic who has the same outlook, is loyal, respect my opinions, can be a good partner and great mum - than just any chicken-head that will end up making the rest of my life miserable.


Darn! My shollypopz, the female amazon - I miss my dargy. That's the real homie and the female poster I like the most on this forum lol. Sholly has fire in her. Ol'girl just always tend to go ghost every time we've a big disagreement.

Ehen, how about the stripper girls you keep posting I wish you the best of luck, you sound like you have your head on your head on your shoulder.

I miss her too

superstar1:


Yeah today's most valuable resource all over the world is the human capacity of any nation. That is the strength of Germany Korea, Switzerland, Israel and even India now.

As a Yoruba Nation we can never be found wanting in this arena. People on this thread have posted profiles of yorubas with incredible and rich profiles, both at home and in diaspora.

Before this can be tapped and harnessed effectively, a system of governance that makes us to be in control of our destiny must be in place first. How many of those YID (Yorubas In Diaspora) would like to come back and serve Nigeria in this messed up state.They might be more than willing to serve a Yoruba Nation/Region because that is their root, even if they will not be paid.

I agree partially with this. I continue to maintain that in a yoruba only nation, old feuds and rivalries will resurface. We are talking about a yoruba nation where osun and oyo had to be given separate states, where Ijebu agitates for its own state. The same Yoruba that the most it came to being unified was during Awo's time which ironically was also a combustible era.

I am for regionalism/conferedation. The most progress the Yoruba made was in the 12 years it was a separate region.