qyfopu:
Na wao

Seun, Lalasticlala, this guy is here to scam people.

drjoshua2000:
Rubbish there is no place of internship in nursing. 5 years of nursing BSc is useless, when people do it for 3 years in the UK or other African countries. Most of those 5 years are spent on the ward. Internship is only ask for to collect money.

Pathetic sadist

kaeforum:
I respect thepeople who went to schools of nusing, you are taught how to be a nurse in theory and practice, not those univeristy nurses who just go and get certificates, they can't even put drip or dress a wound.

Pathetic end time sadist

This is serious

The problem of the nursing profession is inferiority complex. The nurses are paramedics and have specific roles in the hospital. The doctors are the leaders of the medical teams and the medical consultant takes charge of patient management. However, because of more emphasize on remuneration, the paramedics attempt to equate themselves with doctors. What they should do is to lobby for a change of their scheme of service to enable graduate nurses to rise above GL14. Secondly, even in developed countries, there are different categorization of nurses based on their qualifications and specialty. They are paid based on the services they deliver. Nurses are involved in administration of health establishments but must not necessarily be the Medical Director. They head some health institutions but not tertiary hospitals including the teaching hospitals. Nursing education is still fairly developed in Nigeria and is rather surprising that a fellow of the postgraduate college of nurses will compare himself/herself to a medical consultant. As stated earlier, the problem is desire for better remuneration.

Yahami:
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Is a nice suggestion, until medical doctors were been ban from holding post of CMD they'll continue sabotage Nurses for their Right. even at the Federal Executive council the Nurses were been sabotage by Buhari lead administration if not how can the Minister of Health be Medical Doctor, Minister of health for state a Medical Doctor and Permanent Secretary to Federal Ministry of health a medical Doctor please my elite in the house tell me how'll the Nurses be recognise in decision making in our health care system, how can we get rid of quakery in Nursing profession while Doctors continue their evil in our health care system and will be protected by the so call minister. If u all believe me that the role of Nursing profession can not be over emphasis in health care system as thus the federal government should carry them along in policy making of the health care system if not, we'll continue battling with all this menance situation in our country.... Let this son's and filter of this country start the campaign against those useless Doctors who engaged in training fake Nurses and Never training Fake Doctors

Wow nurse, what's this?
No wonder d general public have this general assertion that nurses are rude and unfriendly...
U just proved them right ma'am with this ur unmannered post, they are likely wrong though..

As if male nurses don't pose as doctors outside government hospitals too...

kinguwem:
The problem of the nursing profession is inferiority complex. The nurses are paramedics and have specific roles in the hospital. The doctors are the leaders of the medical teams and the medical consultant takes charge of patient management. However, because of more emphasize on remuneration, the paramedics attempt to equate themselves with doctors. What they should do is to lobby for a change of their scheme of service to enable graduate nurses to rise above GL14. Secondly, even in developed countries, there are different categorization of nurses based on their qualifications and specialty. They are paid based on the services they deliver. Nurses are involved in administration of health establishments but must not necessarily be the Medical Director. They head some health institutions but not tertiary hospitals including the teaching hospitals. Nursing education is still fairly developed in Nigeria and is rather surprising that a fellow of the postgraduate college of nurses will compare himself/herself to a medical consultant. As stated earlier, the problem is desire for better remuneration.

You are not addressing the points raised on the thread rather you went about nitpicking on what you perceived as nurses gross with doctors. Get over your inferior perceptions and address the issues on ground.

Talk about inferiority complex while your post is riddled with it. Cry me a damn ocean.

Yahami:
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Is a nice suggestion, until medical doctors were been ban from holding post of CMD they'll continue sabotage Nurses for their Right. even at the Federal Executive council the Nurses were been sabotage by Buhari lead administration if not how can the Minister of Health be Medical Doctor, Minister of health for state a Medical Doctor and Permanent Secretary to Federal Ministry of health a medical Doctor please my elite in the house tell me how'll the Nurses be recognise in decision making in our health care system, how can we get rid of quakery in Nursing profession while Doctors continue their evil in our health care system and will be protected by the so call minister. If u all believe me that the role of Nursing profession can not be over emphasis in health care system as thus the federal government should carry them along in policy making of the health care system if not, we'll continue battling with all this menance situation in our country.... Let this son's and filter of this country start the campaign against those useless Doctors who engaged in training fake Nurses and Never training Fake Doctors

This ban on doctors being CMD that I see being advocated will it affect private hospitals too?I ask because there are actually more private hospitals in this country than government hospitals and slowly private teaching hospitals are springing up like Babcock University. Will government ban doctors from being CMD in private hospitals too. In 10 years time we will be like the Indians where all the big hospitals are private and I wonder who will be dragging with the people who set them up to come and head them.

Sunnybobo3:


You can exceed 48 hours a week if you sign the opt out form.

I know nurses who do 6 x 12.5hrs shifts every week ie 75hrs a week.

Lol...not under the new European work regulation. Even doctors don't work more than 48hrs a week now in the UK. Any other extension is a personal decision and u will be paid accordingly. So??... Check your fact

kinguwem:
The problem of the nursing profession is inferiority complex. The nurses are paramedics and have specific roles in the hospital. The doctors are the leaders of the medical teams and the medical consultant takes charge of patient management. However, because of more emphasize on remuneration, the paramedics attempt to equate themselves with doctors. What they should do is to lobby for a change of their scheme of service to enable graduate nurses to rise above GL14. Secondly, even in developed countries, there are different categorization of nurses based on their qualifications and specialty. They are paid based on the services they deliver. Nurses are involved in administration of health establishments but must not necessarily be the Medical Director. They head some health institutions but not tertiary hospitals including the teaching hospitals. Nursing education is still fairly developed in Nigeria and is rather surprising that a fellow of the postgraduate college of nurses will compare himself/herself to a medical consultant. As stated earlier, the problem is desire for better remuneration.

Typical Dr's mentality, anyone who isn't a Dr must av inferiority complex. Being a paramedic isn't demeaning or belittling, it only means one is a non- Dr health professional. U guys really need to change ur egocentric and self centred orientations.
As regards the CMD issue, Drs normally shld''t be CEO's of the hospitals, unless they av administrative or managerial degree with some yrs of experience. In sane Countries where Drs don't claim to be all in all, CEO's are administrators, managers, with some years of experience in management, although a Dr can be if he or she possesses these qualities, the CEO can be from any profession whether health related or in the business route. The best man for the job is chosen, and even presently in Nigeria, we can see the havoc some corrupt CMDs av also done to the health sector, thank God they are being exposed already.
And do u know the present Surgeon General of the USA is a nurse? This can never happen in Nigeria, if the Drs had gotten what they wanted, I'm sure it wld av been monopolized as the post of minister for health and state minister for health has been, wc shld not be.
Yes, Drs are very important figures in health care, they plan the pt care wc is their responsibility while the other team members performs his or her role as licensed and needed, but no, no health worker is beneath or a minion to Drs, we are equal, we are all professionals with diverse roles working towards a specific goal.

heykims:

Wow nurse, what's this?
No wonder d general public have this general assertion that nurses are rude and unfriendly...
U just proved them right ma'am with this ur unmannered post, they are likely wrong though..

As if male nurses don't pose as doctors outside government hospitals too...

So because he aired his opinion, he's unmannered??


You're the one showing misdemeanor here...if u can't provide a tangible argument... Then show him some respect

HaneefahRN:

Typical Dr's mentality, anyone who isn't a Dr must av inferiority complex. Being a paramedic isn't demeaning or belittling, it only means one is a non- Dr health professional. U guys really need to change ur egocentric and self centred orientations.
As regards the CMD issue, Drs normally shld''t be CEO's of the hospitals, unless they av administrative or managerial degree with some yrs of experience. In sane Countries where Drs don't claim to be all in all, CEO's are administrators, managers, with some years of experience in management, although a Dr can be if he or she possesses these qualities, the CEO can be from any profession whether health related or in the business route. The best man for the job is chosen, and even presently in Nigeria, we can see the havoc some corrupt CMDs av also done to the health sector, thank God they are being exposed already.
And do u know the present Surgeon General of the USA is a nurse? This can never happen in Nigeria, if the Drs had gotten what they wanted, I'm sure it wld av been monopolized as the post of minister for health and state minister for health has been, wc shld not be.
Yes, Drs are very important figures in health care, they plan the pt care wc is their responsibility while the other team members performs his or her role as licensed and needed, but no, no health worker is beneath or a minion to Drs, we are equal, we are all professionals with diverse roles working towards a specific goal.

My dear, I concur with your submission.

angiography:

Lol...not under the new European work regulation. Even doctors don't work more than 48hrs a week now in the UK. Any other extension is a personal decision and u will be paid accordingly. So??... Check your fact

Dude, here's someone's rota for a week. Those are 4 night shifts and 2 Long Days of 12.5 hours each, subtract 1 hour break from each shift which is not paid.

angiography:

So because he aired his opinion, he's unmannered??


You're the one showing misdemeanor here...if u can't provide a tangible argument... Then show him some respect

Birds of a feather, smh...

HaneefahRN:

Typical Dr's mentality, anyone who isn't a Dr must av inferiority complex. Being a paramedic isn't demeaning or belittling, it only means one is a non- Dr health professional. U guys really need to change ur egocentric and self centred orientations.
As regards the CMD issue, Drs normally shld''t be CEO's of the hospitals, unless they av administrative or managerial degree with some yrs of experience. In sane Countries where Drs don't claim to be all in all, CEO's are administrators, managers, with some years of experience in management, although a Dr can be if he or she possesses these qualities, the CEO can be from any profession whether health related or in the business route. The best man for the job is chosen, and even presently in Nigeria, we can see the havoc some corrupt CMDs av also done to the health sector, thank God they are being exposed already.
And do u know the present Surgeon General of the USA is a nurse? This can never happen in Nigeria, if the Drs had gotten what they wanted, I'm sure it wld av been monopolized as the post of minister for health and state minister for health has been, wc shld not be.
Yes, Drs are very important figures in health care, they plan the pt care wc is their responsibility while the other team members performs his or her role as licensed and needed, but no, no health worker is beneath or a minion to Drs, we are equal, we are all professionals with diverse roles working towards a specific goal.

Point of correction, a fact erroneously injected ma'am...
The surgeon general of US isn't a nurse, but the surgeon general of d US army. And she's d surgeon general based on d fact that she's d most senior officer among those in d health arm of d force.

heykims:

Birds of a feather, smh...

Guy naa...

heykims:

Point of correction, a fact erroneously injected ma'am...
The surgeon general of US isn't a nurse, but the surgeon general of d US army. And she's d surgeon general based on d fact that she's d most senior officer among those in d health arm of d force.

You shot itself @the feet in your quest to dismissing her point.
Oh so SHE, A NURSE, rose to that position because she's the most senior officer of the health team??. Exactly. Nurses here should also be given the leeway to attain any position possible in the healthcare system. (I ain't talking bout consultant ish here). And that will mean the post of CEO(Which hitherto been cloned to CMD) shld be thrown open to the most capable person irrespective of his line of career

angiography:
My dear, I concur with your submission.

Thanks bro

heykims:

Point of correction, a fact erroneously injected ma'am...
The surgeon general of US isn't a nurse, but the surgeon general of d US army. And she's d surgeon general based on d fact that she's d most senior officer among those in d health arm of d force.

thanks for that correction sir. But it still doesn't change my point

heykims:

Point of correction, a fact erroneously injected ma'am...
The surgeon general of US isn't a nurse, but the surgeon general of d US army. And she's d surgeon general based on d fact that she's d most senior officer among those in d health arm of d force.

thanks for that correction sir. It was an overlook on my part. But it still doesn't change my point

angiography:

You shot itself @the feet in your quest to dismissing her point.
Oh so SHE, A NURSE, rose to that position because she's the most senior officer of the health team??. Exactly. Nurses here should also be given the leeway to attain any position possible in the healthcare system. (I ain't talking bout consultant ish here). And that will mean the post of CEO(Which hitherto been cloned to CMD) shld be thrown open to the most capable person irrespective of his line of career

Chief, we are talking military rank here and not academic qualification. And if u are bringing that scenario to the public health sector, I doubt if a nurse can ever beat doctors to it in terms of academic qualifications. So if we are to consider attaining the most senior status here, it will be within d nursing community and not the entire health sector.
And if I may ask, doesn't it amuse u that a nurse has never attained such a feat in the US public health sector if really attaining the peak of her career is all it takes?

HaneefahRN:

thanks for that correction sir. But it still doesn't change my point

Point well taken ma'am.

heykims:

Chief, we are talking military rank here and not academic qualification. And if u are bringing that scenario to the public health sector, I doubt if a nurse can ever beat doctors to it in terms of academic qualifications. So if we are to consider attaining the most senior status here, it will be within d nursing community and not the entire health sector.
And if I may ask, doesn't it amuse u that a nurse has never attained such a feat in the US public health sector if really attaining the peak of her career is all it takes?

Lol...how many CEOs of major hospitals in the us are doctors.??...

heykims:

Chief, we are talking military rank here and not academic qualification. And if u are bringing that scenario to the public health sector, I doubt if a nurse can ever beat doctors to it in terms of academic qualifications. So if we are to consider attaining the most senior status here, it will be within d nursing community and not the entire health sector.
And if I may ask, doesn't it amuse u that a nurse has never attained such a feat in the US public health sector if really attaining the peak of her career is all it takes?

it baffles me that you are doubting the fact that a nurse can ever beat a doctor to it interms of academic qualifications as from your grammatical construction I can tell that you are educated thus when you are commenting on issues do so like some one who is educated.

what do you think is necessary for one to acquire before regarded as academically qualified, is it not more certifications?

sigh! little wonder it has been said that your stand point determines your view point.