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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by macof(m): 8:08pm On Nov 27, 2015
Fadman4real:


If the new testament is a product of the catholic church, how come it speaks against most of their tradition. You can never see anyone worshipping Mary stature or praying with the help of rosaries. Nor do u hear trash about praying for a sinner after death.

Show us the Catholic Church does that is against the new testament

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by macof(m): 8:12pm On Nov 27, 2015
Fadman4real:


ROM 1:25
Because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen

I cor 10:20-21
No, I imply that what pagans sacrifice they offer to demons and not to God. I do not want you to be participants with demons. You cannot drink the cup of the Lord and the cup of demons. You cannot partake of the table of the Lord and the table of demons.

Haven't you asked yourself, have you ever seen a stature of Moses before. Worshipping statures is a sin in the bible

Exodus 20:1 -10
And God spoke all these words, saying, “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of slavery. “You shall have no other gods before me. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. You shall not bow down to them or serve them, for I the Lord your God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children to the third and the fourth generation of those who hate me, ...


You are born to be daft. . No honestly, I don't think u can ever have sense.

I asked you to provide new testament reading that goes against the catholic church and u bring this? U even brought old testament to show that you have nothing to say. I thought old things have passed away and all things have become new. .I thought the old testament is the old times and jesus abolished the laws?

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by Empredboy(m): 8:29pm On Nov 27, 2015
Fadman4real:


If the new testament is a product of the catholic church, how come it speaks against most of their tradition. You can never see anyone worshipping Mary stature or praying with the help of rosaries. Nor do u hear trash about praying for a sinner after death.
you know why we get tired of all u anti Catholics? It's because u come up with the same reason why u think Catholics are not Christians even after we used the Bible to prove that our doctrines are drafted from the Bible. What else can we use to prove a point to you people? Can you assure your self that the pentecostal church you are worshipping now will still be in existence in the next 100 yrs or after your GO has gone (dead)? Read act 5:35-39. Why not let God be the judge. Think of your church. If Catholic is not of God 2000 yrs would have been too much for it to last. How old is your church?

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by Aizenosa(m): 9:17pm On Nov 27, 2015
Reading many of the posts on this thread, hmm, i really have to say that people believe what really suits them, anyway truth will always be truth, even the bible spoke of what the chief priest tried to do by bribing the solders to say that Jesus did not rise from the dead but instead His body was stolen by His disciples.

Truth will always be truth no matter how hard it's twisted.
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 9:37pm On Nov 27, 2015
plaetton:


Once again, I am shocked not only by your level intellectual vacuousness, but also by the fact that you are actually conscious of it, and hence your penchant for ignoring robust debates and arguments to settle for cheap pon shots.

You are actually an insecure and pitiful little hobble-de-hoy.
Young boy,did you take a selfie with your ET buddies?
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 9:39pm On Nov 27, 2015
plaetton:


What ETs?
Are you drunk on idiocy, or something else ?
The ones you slipped and confessed to believing into. Neanderthal, have you forgotten?
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by zeongeon: 10:07pm On Nov 27, 2015
"Christians" go around accusing one another and constantly arguing on which church is doing what or that. God won't ask for Ur church or the church u attended before he admits you to heaven.

You want to win souls and make people see why Christianity is the way but yet you still keep arguing and accusing one another...where is the unity in christaindom.

You call catholics idolaters and some even hate catholics But forget that Jesus says love. if you hate the catholics what sort of Christianity do you practice if you say the catholics are doing wrong and committing sin are yourself perfect. Hypocrites learn to love work on your life and your salvation rather than spend precious time judging and criticizing.

it will shock most people that even prostitutes and hell going catholics will make it into heaven while they find themselves going south of heaven.

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:22am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:


When exactly did we have this discussion about the history of Israel? shocked

plaetton:


Lol.
You cannot find truth from that which you have already been programmed to believe on faith.
. Christian books will only tighten the yoke around your mind. They cannot ever give you any answers, but only reinforce things, myths, dogmas that your mind is already beholden to.

You yourself said it yesterday that every culture molds their God according to their cultural practices. Hindus create Hindu gods, arabs create arab god, ancient hebrews also molded their own tribal God, yahweh according their own likes and dislikes.
It is not surprising that their tribal deity, yahweh, would also hate the phillistines, israelites territorial enemies.
It had nothing to do with worshipping Baal and Ashoret, whom the same israelites held in great esteem and also worshipped.

You Need to know that biblical stories are not history, but a rehash of history from only the perspective of the Yahwehist cult of ancient israel.



KingEbukasBlog:

Woooooow

Since its all false as you claim , you must really know the true story of the history of Israel . Tell me about it

*** Grabs popcorn ***""

And I finished my popcorn without being told the true history of Israel angry sad


https://www.nairaland.com/2557475/delusions-forgiveness-christian-morality/6
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by KingEbukasBlog(m): 1:43am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:

Young boy,did you take a selfie with your ET buddies?

He posted it on Instagram , though it was taken down immediately after the US gov discovered . No need to conspicuously attract media or public attention
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 4:43am On Nov 28, 2015
KingEbukasBlog:


He posted it on Instagram , though it was taken down immediately after the US gov discovered . No need to conspicuously attract media or public attention

Lol
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by plaetton: 7:52am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:

The ones you slipped and confessed to believing into.

Does this statement even make sense in English? undecided

Now if you really want to talk about the belief or possibility of Extra Terrestrial life or civilizations, first start with a look at your Holy bible, which tells of a great war , which if true, would have been between opposing extraterrestrial armies.

If you believe in biblical angels, you already believe in ETs.
It is only a daft and intellectually vacuous half-thinker that would mock another for believing in ETs , while clutching tightly to the belief in heaven, host of angels and armies.

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 8:04am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:


Does this statement even make sense in English? undecided

Now if you really want to talk about the belief or possibility of Extra Terrestrial life or civilizations, first start with a look at your Holy bible, which tells of a great war , which if true, would have been between opposing extraterrestrial armies.

If you believe in biblical angels, you already believe in ETs.
It is only a daft and intellectually vacuous half-thinker that would mock another for believing in ETs , while clutching tightly to the belief in heaven, host of angels and armies.
Neanderthal,
This is about YOU not me or the bible. You are deflecting because you are too embarrassed
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by plaetton: 8:14am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:

Neanderthal,
This is about YOU not me or the bible. You are deflecting because you are too embarrassed

I am actually embarrassed for you.
Seriously.
I thought you had better cranial material than this.

You do a Usain Bolt when it comes to real debates and discussions.

I have carefully noticed that you never ever articulate any arguments, except for cut and past, or regurgitating whatever you read from websites.

You seem incapable on independent thought.

Now, for the records, I can never be ashamed of anything I post on Nairaland.

I know that some of my writings would be the equivalents of pearls before swine to you.

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by plaetton: 8:17am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:

Neanderthal,
This is about YOU not me or the bible. You are deflecting because you are too embarrassed

I challenge you to refute, or at least make a spirited attempt to refute any one or all the arguments I have put forward on this thread.

Insecure coward.
Pls try.

Your shame embarrasses me.
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 8:27am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:


I challenge you to refute, or at least make a spirited attempt to refute any one or all the arguments I have put forward on this thread.

Insecure coward.
Pls try.

Your shame embarrasses me.
Fool,
What argument?
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 8:33am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:


I am actually embarrassed for you.
Seriously.
I thought you had better cranial material than this.

You do a Usain Bolt when it comes to real debates and discussions.

I have carefully noticed that you never ever articulate any arguments, except for cut and past, or regurgitating whatever you read from websites.

You seem incapable on independent thought.

Now, for the records, I can never be ashamed of anything I post on Nairaland.

I know that some of my writings would be the equivalents of pearls before swine to you.

You have just described yourself.

What you should do is to try coherence. State your case, back it up and challenge me. Are you the fool who scattered when I challenged you to explain Origins? You also did a Houdini when challenged to explain your basis for morality. You are not worth my while and you should count yourself privileged enough to get my reply.

All you do is spam and troll threads and spew your wild,shallow and asinine crap and then get exasperated that no intelligent being gives a damn cheesy
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by plaetton: 8:49am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:

Fool,
What argument?

OK Vooks,.
From now on, I am going to carry a big whip to whip that stuuupidity out of you.
You can thank me when you grow up.

I will follow and scrutinize every thread, every post of yours to expose your intellectual vacuity, and hopefully, help you grow some real brain cells.
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by Nobody: 8:54am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:
And then claimed it was 'received from above'

They stole it from Hindus and Muslims
http://www.bible.ca/cath-overview-false-teaching.htm

http://philologos.org/__eb-ttb/sect54.htm
The Holy Rosary given to St Dominic is actually an adaptation of the daily recitation of the 150 psalms by the Catholic monks which was largely for the edification of the largely illiterate lay faithful of the time who obviously could not recite the psalms themselves. So Islamic right? Maybe you should do more research before posting ignorant articles.

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by plaetton: 9:01am On Nov 28, 2015
vooks:


You have just described yourself.

What you should do is to try coherence. State your case, back it up and challenge me. Are you the fool who scattered when I challenged you to explain Origins? You also did a Houdini when challenged to explain your basis for morality. You are not worth my while and you should count yourself privileged enough to get my reply.

All you do is spam and troll threads and spew your wild,shallow and asinine crap and then get exasperated that no intelligent being gives a damn cheesy


Origins of what ?

The basis of morality? For how many millionth time ?

The issue of morality is probably the most debated topic on this section.
Am I expected to repeat myself each time a religiotard, who don't read, trips into this section?
If you had any comprehension skills, no doubt, you would have long understood my take on the basis of morality.

And again, asking or challenging someone to explain something to you is the idiot's method of intellectual debate.

Are you really asking to learn or just childish and desperate posturing?

It is either you make your own case, challenge others to repudiate it, or, you repudiate the arguments of others.

Your inability to articulate arguments exasperates you to the point of desperation, hence your juvenile antics.

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by plaetton: 9:08am On Nov 28, 2015
Papist:

The Holy Rosary given to St Dominic is actually an adaptation of the daily recitation of the 150 psalms by the Catholic monks which was largely for the edification of the largely illiterate lay faithful of the time who obviously could not recite the psalms themselves. So Islamic right? Maybe you should do more research before posting ignorant articles.

Thank you.

A website is not a substitute for a real learning, unless you're among the cranially vacuous, the lazy hslf-thinkers, the vooks of Nairaland.
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by macof(m): 9:32am On Nov 28, 2015
Aizenosa:
Reading many of the posts on this thread, hmm, i really have to say that people believe what really suits them, anyway truth will always be truth, even the bible spoke of what the chief priest tried to do by bribing the solders to say that Jesus did not rise from the dead but instead His body was stolen by His disciples.

Truth will always be truth no matter how hard it's twisted.

This story of the priest bribing the soldiers to say jesus didn't rise from the dead is also made known to you through the catholic church
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 9:43am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:

Origins of what ?

The basis of morality? For how many millionth time ?

The issue of morality is probably the most debated topic on this section.
Am I expected to repeat myself each time a religiotard, who don't read, trips into this section?
If you had any comprehension skills, no doubt, you would have long understood my take on the basis of morality.

And again, asking or challenging someone to explain something to you is the idiot's method of intellectual debate.

Are you really asking to learn or just childish and desperate posturing?

It is either you make your own case, challenge others to repudiate it, or, you repudiate the arguments of others.

Your inability to articulate arguments exasperates you to the point of desperation, hence your juvenile antics.
Am too busy to dig your old threads
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 9:47am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:


OK Vooks,.
From now on, I am going to carry a big whip to whip that stuuupidity out of you.
You can thank me when you grow up.

I will follow and scrutinize every thread, every post of yours to expose your intellectual vacuity, and hopefully, help you grow some real brain cells.
Young man, am my brother's keeper. I will interrupt every attempt you make to soil,spam and troll. I will not sit back and watch idiocy reign supreme grin
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 9:50am On Nov 28, 2015
Papist:

The Holy Rosary given to St Dominic is actually an adaptation of the daily recitation of the 150 psalms by the Catholic monks which was largely for the edification of the largely illiterate lay faithful of the time who obviously could not recite the psalms themselves. So Islamic right? Maybe you should do more research before posting ignorant articles.
Negro please!

What is an 'adaptation'?
Did Dominic receive this 'adaptation' from Mary? Has Catholicism taught that Dominic received this 'adaptation' from Mary?

Hindus long before Muslims had their mantras. NOBODY before 1000AD ever used those idols to boost their prayers
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 9:51am On Nov 28, 2015
plaetton:


Thank you.

A website is not a substitute for a real learning, unless you're among the cranially vacuous, the lazy hslf-thinkers, the vooks of Nairaland.


Amateur Septic(sic)
Just sit down no keep your beak shut and watch adults debate cool
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by Aizenosa(m): 8:45pm On Nov 28, 2015
macof:


This story of the priest bribing the soldiers to say Jesus didn't rise from the dead is also made known to you through the catholic church

Hence you can clearly see that the Catholic church though can offer double standards choose to pick the truth and also help prevent against the lie that would have ripped Christianity apart, because if Christ hadn't risen from the dead then man has no hope, I can verily say Christ rose because He lives in me and I in Him.
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by lepasharon(f): 12:24am On Nov 29, 2015
plaetton:


True.

So, now we know that Mother Church is a contrived fraud.

But are we smart enough to figure out and conclude that all her now dysfunctional children were therefore, also begotten of fraud, or are we going to go into cognitive dissonance mode, and try to prove that bible, compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church, is now much trueer than the Catholic Church ?

My point, my little thinking friend, is that if you indict the Mother Church, you indict the entire Church, the entire edifice of the Christian faith.
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by Nobody: 4:29am On Nov 29, 2015
plaetton:


True.

So, now we know that Mother Church is a contrived fraud.

But are we smart enough to figure out and conclude that all her now dysfunctional children were therefore, also begotten of fraud, or are we going to go into cognitive dissonance mode, and try to prove that bible, compiled and canonized by the Catholic Church, is now much trueer than the Catholic Church ?

My point, my little thinking friend, is that if you indict the Mother Church, you indict the entire Church, the entire edifice of the Christian faith.
my friend, you assume you are conversing with agents of intellectual honesty. that is too much to assume. I'm afraid.

you see, this is not the first time. certain christian denominations have been known to disown Judaism, Islam, Catholicism, and every other christian denomination besides their own. hereby implying that the practitioners there in will be condemned to hell. they do this with the bible. the bible which contains in more than 60% of it's content, Judaist text, and which forms a solid foundation for the conclusion of the doctrines of other denominations.

perhaps the most interesting situation is one where in the past, a denomination supported a particular doctrine, and in the present, they do not support that doctrine again, they often have the guts to proclaim that people who support the doctrine they once supported will go to hell.

one must now ponder the fate of the people who died before they stopped the support.

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by Nobody: 4:38am On Nov 29, 2015
vooks:


You have just described yourself.

What you should do is to try coherence. State your case, back it up and challenge me. Are you the fool who scattered when I challenged you to explain Origins? You also did a Houdini when challenged to explain your basis for morality. You are not worth my while and you should count yourself privileged enough to get my reply.

All you do is spam and troll threads and spew your wild,shallow and asinine crap and then get exasperated that no intelligent being gives a damn cheesy


The basis for morality is pretty simple. a normal organism will try it's best to further the progression of it's species.

that's why lions don't eat other lions
that's why wolves don't kill themselves.
that's why atheists don't need God to know what will further the well being of homo sapien.


you should ponder what gives people in every other religion their basis for morality

while you're at that, you should ponder why you choose to do Good in God. there are enough verses in the bible that justify evil. why don't you follow those verses? what is the basis for your selective obedience?

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Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by italo: 5:49am On Nov 29, 2015
When "Christians" call the Catholic Church all sorts of evil names...

But the "evil" Catholic Church compiled the Holy Bible abi?

Abi the Bible is evil too? grin
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 6:00am On Nov 29, 2015
italo:
When "Christians" call the Catholic Church all sorts of evil names...

But the "evil" Catholic Church compiled the Holy Bible abi?

Abi the Bible is evil too? grin


Fool, the bible existed long before Catholicism satanism was born
Re: Catholicism Dastardly Plagiarized The 'holy Rosary' From Pagans by vooks: 6:07am On Nov 29, 2015
Teempakguy:

The basis for morality is pretty simple. a normal organism will try it's best to further the progression of it's species.

that's why lions don't eat other lions
that's why wolves don't kill themselves.
that's why atheists don't need God to know what will further the well being of homo sapien.

There is cannibalism among animals you fool. Animals kill each other routinely, are hey trying hard to further progression of their species?

There are tribes that are cannibals and it has taken some serious colonialism to exorcise their primitivity. Can I go on?

What you are doing is circular reasoning;
Any shred of morality is defined as an attempt to further the species. And any attempt to further the species is defined as morality.

Get me a sensible basis for morality like for instance why you can't marry your mother

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