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Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by OZAOEKPE(f): 8:04am On Dec 09, 2015
Empiree:
You divorced Yourmain? grin
long time bro, hope you doing well.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by OZAOEKPE(f): 8:05am On Dec 09, 2015
madridguy:
Don't ever marry OZAO EKPE.
na because of you them ban me the other time, its like you get long leg for nairaland, abi na your brother be lalasticlala?
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by madridguy(m): 8:14am On Dec 09, 2015
Ban you as in ? What do you said then that attracted such ?

OZAOEKPE:
na because of you them ban me the other time, its like you get long leg for nairaland, abi na your brother be lalasticlala?
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by OZAOEKPE(f): 8:19am On Dec 09, 2015
madridguy:
Ban you as in ? What do you said then that attracted such ?
yo they ask me?
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by madridguy(m): 8:26am On Dec 09, 2015
Then you should know how to conduct yourself properly then. Nairaland is not a boxing to fight and stop saying negative words against Islam. Allahu Afis.

OZAOEKPE:
yo they ask me?
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by OZAOEKPE(f): 8:30am On Dec 09, 2015
madridguy:
Then you should know how to conduct yourself properly then. Nairaland is not a boxing to fight and stop saying negative words against Islam. Allahu Afis.
point out anywhere i said negative things about islam. i dont use this my moniker to preach hate. because of aminat508 i flee away from islam bashing thread. dont want to hurt feelings, not when she is now ma friend on nairaland.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Nobody: 8:30am On Dec 09, 2015
Junior66:
if u support sharia law then u are a terrorist
The last time I checked supporting sharia law doesn't make one a TERRORist.....Islam is a religion of peace...there are misconceptions bouh the religion which shldnt be....#MyOpinion tho.....
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by tplacid: 8:38am On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
I'm sure if you do a proper research about whether Muslims should be ban in the U.S or not, you'll find that most of the people commenting just hold a minute opinion.

People shouldn't be held responsible for the actions of others. However, they should be held accountable for not outrightly condemning their brothers when they go on killing spree, just to spread their narrow
minded views...
Did you read the post at all. Did they not tell you that Muslims are the greeted victims of terrorism

Were were you when BH was killing Islamic scholars that spoke against them

Where were when Mosques were bombed by theses extemist ......I guess Christians were targeted yeah.

Libya, Iraq,Yemen, Palestine, Somalia have innocent people dieing in millions, I guess those peeps are Christians targeted by Islamic terrorist too.

You just hate Muslims and you want to believe that Islam represents terrorism.

I pray that you find the truth someday, Coz that the only thing that will free you.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by jane0000(f): 9:22am On Dec 09, 2015
MrCork:
....calm dowm jannet....ladys dont swaaar...anyways did I mention I drive £28,000 ( cash ) range rover spot! ! smiley
lol.. For real? Now we can talk cheesy. Hey am kidding.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by eligibility: 9:26am On Dec 09, 2015
madridguy:
Hypocrisy is when you think Muslim are terrorist and see American as an Angel. As at 2014, 1,147 innocent Muslim killed in US drone strikes –

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

The public record of violent deaths following the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Documented Muslim deaths from violence.

147,431 – 167,206

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

No one is talking about the Innocent Civilians that lost their lives in NATO airstrikes in Libya and how they turned Libya into War zone.

No one is pointing finger at Tony Blair and his partner in Crime, George W. Bush for crime against humanity. Millions of Children are outta school in Iraq, Libya , Syria because of your USELESS FOREIGN POLICY.

MAY THE WRATH OF GOD BE UPON DONALD TRUMP FOR CALLING MUSLIM TERRORIST.


AMERICA WILL NEVER KNOW PEACE UNTIL THEY STOP TERRORIZING THE WHOLE WORLD.
God will bless you for your wonderful piece.
Bomb was never used or tested in Iraq until the blood tasty George Bush launched a serious attack on Iraqis, destroyed mosques, churches, schools ,oldest library in the world and largely over half a million children were slaughtered in that peaceful nation by American soldiers all in the name of searching for unavailable atomic bomb.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by jane0000(f): 9:28am On Dec 09, 2015
Lildav:
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Lol!! Y spiting hate all over the forum? #all this #Mpape & #Mararaba girls tho! #smH!
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lmao. Did I look like mararaba girls to u? Btw pple living there ain't humanhuh Mr man real guys don't bragg. Go n learn from ma friend sameer1212.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by jane0000(f): 9:30am On Dec 09, 2015
AdmiralDru:
You don't have to insult anyone to make your points.
They r getting on ma nerves embarassed
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by jane0000(f): 9:31am On Dec 09, 2015
Allosaurus:
Check your two comments and see how they contradict each other. Are Yeeeeegbos white? shocked shocked shocked
lol. Meaning?
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by eligibility: 9:36am On Dec 09, 2015
EdCure:
Well, America should be a Muslim-free zone.
You lack historical facts about the development of USA by well organised Muslims and not by the terrorists that were trained by American Jews and champion by CNN, VOA etc.
Research about Islam before mesmerizing .....
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by eligibility: 9:49am On Dec 09, 2015
HammerEvery:
Time is up for the jihadists all over the world. Biafrans must start positioning itself to align with the Republicans against the Islamic republic of nigeria even if it means making big concessions. nigeria survived the Biafra war by making concessions to Britain, cameroun( bakkassi). Biafra must be ready to do the same. It is all about interests for the world powers and we must conceed something to win a greater Biafra.
Reasoning is given but to the talented. Thank God the man at the helm of affairs during the war remains your brother in faith. 99.9% Muslims all over the globe kicks against terrorism but the non-Muslims take us for granted and recognises the 0.0001% migrants that disguise to be Muslims but were not.

Imagine your brother in Germany {catholic member }who eliminated over 6 million Jews . He was a Christian terrorist who single handedly killed the highest number of people in the world. The media up till today never call him a terrorist. Lets love each other.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by MOOJIMOH(m): 10:47am On Dec 09, 2015
madridguy:
Hypocrisy is when you think Muslim are terrorist and see American as an Angel. As at 2014, 1,147 innocent Muslim killed in US drone strikes –

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2014/nov/24/-sp-us-drone-strikes-kill-1147

The public record of violent deaths following the 2003 invasion of Iraq.

Documented Muslim deaths from violence.

147,431 – 167,206

https://www.iraqbodycount.org/

No one is talking about the Innocent Civilians that lost their lives in NATO airstrikes in Libya and how they turned Libya into War zone.

No one is pointing finger at Tony Blair and his partner in Crime, George W. Bush for crime against humanity. Millions of Children are outta school in Iraq, Libya , Syria because of your USELESS FOREIGN POLICY.

MAY THE WRATH OF GOD BE UPON DONALD TRUMP FOR CALLING MUSLIM TERRORIST.


AMERICA WILL NEVER KNOW PEACE UNTIL THEY STOP TERRORIZING THE WHOLE WORLD.
Ameen.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Lildav: 10:49am On Dec 09, 2015
jane0000:
lmao. Did I look like mararaba girls to u? Btw pple living there ain't humanhuh Mr man real guys don't bragg. Go n learn from ma friend sameer1212.
And who is sameer1212 that I shld wnt 2know?? Please!! undecided
jane0000:
lmao. Did I look like mararaba girls to u? Btw pple living there ain't humanhuh Mr man real guys don't bragg. Go n learn from ma friend sameer1212.
And who is sameer1212 that I shld wnt 2know?? Please!!
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Lildav: 10:49am On Dec 09, 2015
jane0000:
lmao. Did I look like mararaba girls to u? Btw pple living there ain't humanhuh Mr man real guys don't bragg. Go n learn from ma friend sameer1212.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by MOOJIMOH(m): 10:52am On Dec 09, 2015
jstbeinhonest:
Lol,as usual cramjones is being deceptive...that is their facebook page and there were more 'anti trump' comments than 'pro'........u only selected the ones you wanted nairalanders to see.
That is the point. The op thinks he can decevie us.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by creamyworkz: 11:45am On Dec 09, 2015
Junior66:
So you believe that so long as its only members of your religion that you enact sharia law upon then it is ok? It is not! As a human and christian if i catch you cutting of the hands of your stealing muslim family members i will act. Thats the human in me.
Secondly stop telling me about the old testaments because most Christians are not proud of them and dn't even bother to use them. If Christians followed the old testaments then perhaps it would be Muslims calling us terrorists be now. We follow Christ, judge us by his examples.

Pls tell me, is blasphemy law stringent rules too? Mtcheeew. With your sharia law justice will always be a mirrage in the society.
So are u saying the message of the old testament is irrelevant to christians or should i say the ignorant ones like u? One thing you fail to realize is that capital punishments are not specifically targeted towards victimizing any one or any particular religion. they are made to put the fear of going against it in humans. take for instance when the incessant issue of kidnapping was fast becoming a cancer in Nigeria in the last few months, wasnt it here on social media dat people like u and i were clamoring for capital punishment against dem? same applies to the issues of corrupt politicians and rapists.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Nobody: 11:58am On Dec 09, 2015
cramjones:
-CramJones
I like this old troll cheesy cheesy cheesy.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by x12345678x: 12:01pm On Dec 09, 2015
cold:
We will prevail insha Allah. We will deal with these munafikis and arnes. We shall destroy them,we will annihilate them,we will incapacitate them,we shall decapitate them,we will demolish them,we dehumanise them,we shall...

(20:4645) – “…He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah!”

Allah Akbar,Allah Akbar!
If this isn't hate speech then I wonder what is?. A man says..... I don't want u in my house cuz ur violent... ur reply....how dare u call me violent!!!!. And of cuz u go ahead to kill him to show how non violent u are.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Lsofdk(m): 12:23pm On Dec 09, 2015
cathodekazim:
We shall never be united and always be enemy to eachother
you don't expect us to be united with terrorists

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624] Tnks to nairaland,I now know muslims and xtains are nt worshipping the same God
hell no we can't, we don't preach hate

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624] Christianity is a religion of deceit, lies, wickedness and doom
islam is a religion of hate, lies, wickedness, doom

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624]The american and uk occupation on d arab soils, killing n maiming each day, yu guys never see tht, bt cn comment of a dozen few bn killed by these islam extremist

you got it all wrong, they have killed more than a few, my problem is not the number, it's that you're happy they did kill a few

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624] Soon the hatred will grow to d fullest in me
wrong again, it has already

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624] Will brainwash my children, my wife, attack a christian population, kill, maim n blow myself up
now you prove you're a terrorist, i can see the kind of future you want for your family

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624] I hate christainity
the feeling is mutual

[quote author=cathodekazim post=40813624]Satan was a xtian

Thts why immorality fill the world

Bad dresses, corruption, hiv, looting, rapin, prostitution all rampant in d critian world

Ban me pls

But seun shd knw this, ur mods are biased, terrible and sentimentalist

This shdnt be makin the front page
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by x12345678x: 12:33pm On Dec 09, 2015
eluquenson:
All those supporting Trump's hate statement are all hypocrites and they are the major terrorist, they shy away from saying the truth.
Americans.......your day of reckoning as a nation is drawing nearer.
TRUMP- 'Ban entry of Muslims into this country till we have a better plan to contain Islamic terrorism'
ISLAM- Surah9:29 'Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth(islam) from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they feel themselves subdued and pay the jizyah with willing submission'.
Please which of these two can b called ' hate speech'. By the way when you say day of reckoning for the US. It means attacking d US n killing people I presume?( shows how peaceful u r).
Here is my take on dis ANYONE who believes in the killing of a human being in d name of his beliefs should Never be allowed to come to the US!!!. Thank you
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by jane0000(f): 12:34pm On Dec 09, 2015
Lildav:
And who is sameer1212 that I shld wnt 2know?? Please!! undecided


And who is sameer1212 that I shld wnt 2know?? Please!!
a mature n simple guy dt never bragg even though he came frm a gud/rich family. So u c real men don't come online n insult pple jst because dey live in a particular place.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by x12345678x: 12:56pm On Dec 09, 2015
creamyworkz:
i wonder why u people believe u can just blab all u lyk bout islam, u'll feel insulted if d same was said bout ur religion. pls get ur facts ryt, there r people wt intellects here reading. not erryone is just gonna digest some writeup u made in a bar while u were probably drunk. can u pls tell me more about d part where u said d prophet raped slaves? i'ld like to know whr u came across dat
I have no qualms with u buh since u asked for some evidence here it is.
Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn't Muhammad, but "Allah the Exalted" who told the men to rape the women in front of their husbands -
Note also that the husbands of these unfortunate victims were obviously alive after battle.  This is important because it flatly contradicts those apologists who like to argue that the women Muhammad enslaved were widowed and thus unable to fend for themselves.  (Even if the apologists were right, what sort of a moral code is it that forces a widow to choose between being raped and starving?)

There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear opportunity to disavow raping women - yet he instead offers advice on how to proceed.  In one case, his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant.  Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?"  The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)
As indicated, the prophet of Islam did not mind his men raping the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.

As one might imagine, Muhammad's obvious approval of raping women captured in battle and his own personal participation as recorded in many places is of intense inconvenience to the Muslim apologists of our time. Thank you
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Empiree: 1:02pm On Dec 09, 2015
OZAOEKPE:
long time bro, hope you doing well.

Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by x12345678x: 1:17pm On Dec 09, 2015
creamyworkz:
must u let d world know how dumb u are? i only stated the one dat everyone will understand dat is so obvious. can he tell the name of the war where the prophet or his followers killed women or children? how can a prophet who specifically warned against killing women, children be involved in such act, is it logical to u? shebi u sef get pry 6 certificate, dis shldnt be too difficult for u to draw inference from. he evn went ahead to warn against harming anyone of their enemies who flees or surrenders during battle or afterwards. he wvn got to d stage of warning against destruction of properties and evn burning of trees. d poster of that info had no source nd u tink its credible enough for u to digest just cos u hate islam. come to tink of it, the nation with the highest population of muslims in the world is indonesia, have u hrd of any form of terrorist group dere? we have core islamic nations like saudi arabia, turkey,Algeria, tunisia etc nd there are no terrorist groups from dere. yet u want to believe islam is violent. ode oshi
As usual I have no issue with u buh I need u to explain some of these.
Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing...
but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful.   And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone.  But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun (the polytheists, and wrong-doers, etc.)"  (Translation is from the Noble Quran)
Quran (2:244) - "Then fight in the cause of Allah, and know that Allah Heareth and knoweth all things."
Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not." 
Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".
Quran (4:95) - "Not equal are those of the believers who sit (at home), except those who are disabled (by injury or are blind or lame, etc.), and those who strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with their wealth and their lives. Allah has preferred in grades those who strive hard and fight with their wealth and their lives above those who sit (at home). Unto each, Allah has promised good (Paradise), but Allah has preferred those who strive hard and fight, above those who sit (at home) by a huge reward "
Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them" I'll be awaiting ur explanation with all humility. Thank you.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by Nobody: 1:24pm On Dec 09, 2015
adesegun121:
tongue tongue
True but..

..Leon Uris, ‘The Haj’..........‘Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by creamyworkz: 1:28pm On Dec 09, 2015
x12345678x:
I have no qualms with u buh since u asked for some evidence here it is.
Sura 4:24) "And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)

Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn't Muhammad, but "Allah the Exalted" who told the men to rape the women in front of their husbands -
Note also that the husbands of these unfortunate victims were obviously alive after battle.  This is important because it flatly contradicts those apologists who like to argue that the women Muhammad enslaved were widowed and thus unable to fend for themselves.  (Even if the apologists were right, what sort of a moral code is it that forces a widow to choose between being raped and starving?)

There are several other episodes in which Muhammad is offered the clear opportunity to disavow raping women - yet he instead offers advice on how to proceed.  In one case, his men were reluctant to devalue their new slaves for later resale by getting them pregnant.  Muhammad was asked about coitus interruptus in particular:

"O Allah's Apostle! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?"  The Prophet said, "Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 34:432)
As indicated, the prophet of Islam did not mind his men raping the women, provided they ejaculated within the bodies of their victims.

As one might imagine, Muhammad's obvious approval of raping women captured in battle and his own personal participation as recorded in many places is of intense inconvenience to the Muslim apologists of our time. Thank you
Let me start by seeking Allah's (swt) mercy for u. You are an evil person. i cant believe you let ur hatred for islam get to the stage where you now select tinz from the quran and manupulate it d way u like. am quite sure if this was done about the bible every christian here will be angered. here is what suratul nisa (q4:24) says:
"And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess. [This is] the decree of Allah upon you. And lawful to you are [all others] beyond these, [provided] that you seek them [in marriage] with [gifts from] your property, desiring chastity, not unlawful sexual intercourse. So for whatever you enjoy [of marriage] from them, give them their due compensation as an obligation. And there is no blame upon you for what you mutually agree to beyond the obligation. Indeed, Allah is ever Knowing and Wise".

you are a disgrace to your religion. i am a muslim bt i have never and will never manupulate the words of the bible. one thing is for sure, i will never stop defending what i know and believe in. Now everyone is going to see you for the demon you are.
its obvious you dont even know the first tin bout islam, if i may ask what do u understand by hadith? in ur words you said "Actually, as the hadith indicates, it wasn't Muhammad, but "Allah the Exalted" who told the men to rape the women in front of their husbands" hadith refers to the sayings of the prophet while the message of the quran are directly from Allah (swt). so how come you are quoting that Allah narrated an hadith? pls get ur facts right. pls pls and pls never quote sahih bukhari d way u did, kindly explain wah u mean by "(bukhari 34:432) cos sahih bukhari has just 9 volumes. maybe he gave the other to u personally. kindly tell me the volume and hadith number of the things you sited from sahih bukhari.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by madridguy(m): 1:30pm On Dec 09, 2015
Amin and you too. I believe one day the world will know their evil way.

eligibility:
God will bless you for your wonderful piece.
Bomb was never used or tested in Iraq until the blood tasty George Bush launched a serious attack on Iraqis, destroyed mosques, churches, schools ,oldest library in the world and largely over half a million children were slaughtered in that peaceful nation by American soldiers all in the name of searching for unavailable atomic bomb.
Re: See What Americans Are Saying On Muslim Ban In The US - Cramjones by preetyb(f): 1:38pm On Dec 09, 2015
Chimdiebere:
no need to Argue! the likes of you belong to Hell Fire already!
And u think killing people in the name of Religion is what will take u to heaven? Dream on.
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