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Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Nobody: 1:56pm On Dec 09, 2015
There's no generalisation in his post. Desire for freedom is still within the people, is not a generalisation, he never said all igbos, or all houses in igboland. The bases of his point was on hoisting of Biafran flag, and he clearly stated they were been done by some houses.

I see a lot of these flags, especially in Imo, Anambra and Abia, this thing indicate strong believe in a cause. US citizens hoist their flags in their homes.
How many Nigerians hoist Nigerian flags in their house? Even air freshener used for cars are, mostly, designed in USA flag grin

Patriotism has gone in this country, we are just living in denial, "unity of Nigeria is non-negotiable" grin let's keep deceiving ourselves.

Tomorrow, it might be from another tribe.

joseph1832:
And you didn't see where he wrote the desire for freedom is still within the people right?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by joseph1832(m): 2:02pm On Dec 09, 2015
centje:
There's no generalisation in his post. Desire for freedom is still within the people, is not a generalisation, he never said all igbos, or all houses in igboland. The bases of his point was on hoisting of Biafran flag, and he clearly stated they were been done by some houses.

I see a lot of these flags, especially in Imo, Anambra and Abia, this thing indicate strong believe in a cause. US citizens hoist their flags in their homes.
How many Nigerians hoist Nigerian flags in their house? Even air freshener used for cars are, mostly, designed in USA flag grin

Patriotism has gone in this country, we are just living in denial, "unity of Nigeria is non-negotiable" grin let's keep deceiving ourselves.

Tomorrow, it might be from another tribe.
But how come every tomorrow you still see the same easterners shout the same thing?

The embolden is why I said its a generalization? Which people desire freedom? How do you know they desire freedom? Can you read minds? Just because some people hoist Biafra flag doesn't mean everybody hoist Biafra flag.

U.S citizens hoist their flag... I ask, is it all U.S citizens that hoist the Stars and Stripes?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by preciousMI1(f): 2:24pm On Dec 09, 2015
Monalisa185:
my Igbo brethren, y'all should just chill small abeg...
we will miss our northern and western brothers...
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by cohug: 2:30pm On Dec 09, 2015
he who have ear let him hear!
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by highmood(m): 2:31pm On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
Biafran flags being flown in some houses doesn't translate to it being flown in every house. Don't generalize please.

The desire for whatever freedom they seek is only the figment of some peoples imagination.
Don't be sentimental and pained because some people seek freedom. Moreover, have you been to the east to seek the opinions of people living there? Have u been to market places where the easterners trade? Though some may not agree to the struggle completely for one reason or the other(like my dad because he partook in the war) while some people like me maybe indifferent to see what programs this administration have, but the fact remains that majority of the southeasterners wants Biafra. If the FG is not afraid of Biafra leaving Nigeria, then it should be more diplomatic and let there be a referendum and see the outcome. Some people like you may say, the south south will never go with them, its needful to note that the east don't solely depend on any region or administration to develop. And if I may ask, if the east goes, what will the south south wait to gain from Nigeria?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Idagreat: 2:36pm On Dec 09, 2015
PedroJP:
Let Biafrans be armed already.

As a Biafran, u are called to fight and f ight for your fatherland. Fight to defend your parents, fight to defend ur siblings, fight to defend ur land, fight to defend Biafra, fight to defend freedom, fight to have a better future for ur generation, fight to separate from Islamic yoruba and hausa.



Remember, being a coward will make the enemy kill not just u, but ur mother, ur siblings, ur aged and destruction of ur places.




Bring out urself, ur determination, the spirit,resolve and the doggedness in u to defend ur freedom. No retreat.
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Chukazu: 2:40pm On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
From what you say, your agitation for fairness and equity is riddled with tribalism and ethnic sentiment. This is a 'democracy'.

Elections were held weren't they? So did the Hausa and Yoruba man impose their self on you? No! They simply formed an alliance, that's something very common in politics. So why are you crying now.

If I were you, rather than cry and rant I'll start mapping out my strategy of how I'm going to contest election 2019 and win, not ferment trouble and deceive yourself.

If you want to be part of something or own a stake in something, start forming alliance. Plain and simple.
am tribal by seeking what fair and just. but you are patriotic when one region (possible your region) dominate others..?that is one mind set that won't take us anywhere.
talking about alliance, an IBo man spearheaded the formation of PDP, which yoruba man used to become president for eight years, what did we gain in return

after the death MKO,abiola -OPC members terrorized everybody in South West, an we didn't call them tribal and crying foul. at the end the south west go the presidency,and they kept quiet.
now the same south west has the vice presidency

we need to restructure Nigeria so no one is marginalized, the only way is implementing the report of sovereign national conference. and that is what we asking for.

power must be shared across the region and forget about alliance. rotational presidency is the only solution, because every state in Nigeria can produce the presidency so why should a whole region be perpetually kept out of the equation?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Holyman3(m): 3:02pm On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
Yes be that as it may, I still believe the idea of Biafra is just a means for some disgruntled south easterners to cause trouble. They should know not every easterners buy the idea of Biafra.

I'll even want to ask them why they didn't launch this ridiculous crusade during the past administration, how come they're launching it now? The guise of marginalization is just a ruse they want to use to stir trouble.
Hypocrite.

If every Hausa wanted one Nigeria, what is boko haram all about? why are they mounting flags and declaring islamic states ?
do you think every Yoruba would vote YES to one Nigeria?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by kelabok(m): 3:15pm On Dec 09, 2015
Monalisa185:
my Igbo brethren, y'all should just chill small abeg...
We should shill for what? Until our people are totally annihilated or rendered ilellivant politically....... What if it was you...... What would you have done?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by DerideGull(m): 3:22pm On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
Yes be that as it may, I still believe the idea of Biafra is just a means for some disgruntled south easterners to cause trouble. They should know not every easterners buy the idea of Biafra.

I'll even want to ask them why they didn't launch this ridiculous crusade during the past administration, how come they're launching it now? The guise of marginalization is just a ruse they want to use to stir trouble.
I simply cannot deduce how agitation for self-determination and independent homeland can be construed as act of disgruntled south easterners to cause trouble by a person with average intellect. With streams of thoughts like the one expressed in above post, does it matter anymore to ask why Nigeria is perpetually backward?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by DerideGull(m): 3:37pm On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
Yes be that as it may, I still believe the idea of Biafra is just a means for some disgruntled south easterners to cause trouble. They should know not every easterners buy the idea of Biafra.

I'll even want to ask them why they didn't launch this ridiculous crusade during the past administration, how come they're launching it now? The guise of marginalization is just a ruse they want to use to stir trouble.
Even a goat knew that MASSOB was formed following the election of Obasanjo as president in 1999. In addition, Radio Biafra was launched in 2009 when Goodluck Jonathan was a VP. Most Nigerians are apathetic to historical facts and seemed to commit irreparable blunders when they open their putrid mouth. How can a country progress when it is filled with bunch of individuals who are prone to destroy constructive approach to problem solving?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by kennethchidi(m): 4:19pm On Dec 09, 2015
patrick89:
That you're writing in igbo doesn't make you igbo!!!
I was in a bus to enugu, an awusa man in the bus was speaking igbo like a village igbo man! I was shocked.
look I stated conquered people. if you know what conquered mean you will understand perfectly..
Whatever conquered means,i dnt think it means taking up arms and going to war as a means of pushing ur demands.
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by joseph1832(m): 4:53pm On Dec 09, 2015
DerideGull:
I simply cannot deduce how agitation for self-determination and independent homeland can be construed as act of disgruntled south easterners to cause trouble by a person with average intellect. With streams of thoughts like the one expressed in above post, does it matter anymore to ask why Nigeria is perpetually backward?
It will do you well you keep mute Mr. If you can't deduce the embolden. Then you're as blind as a bat!.
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by joseph1832(m): 4:56pm On Dec 09, 2015
Chukazu:
am tribal by seeking what fair and just. but you are patriotic when one region (possible your region) dominate others..?that is one mind set that won't take us anywhere.
talking about alliance, an IBo man spearheaded the formation of PDP, which yoruba man used to become president for eight years, what did we gain in return

after the death MKO,abiola -OPC members terrorized everybody in South West, an we didn't call them tribal and crying foul. at the end the south west go the presidency,and they kept quiet.
now the same south west has the vice presidency

we need to restructure Nigeria so no one is marginalized, the only way is implementing the report of sovereign national conference. and that is what we asking for.

power must be shared across the region and forget about alliance. rotational presidency is the only solution, because every state in Nigeria can produce the presidency so why should a whole region be perpetually kept out of the equation?
Please learn to speak less of things which you know little or nothing of.

My tribe is Esan, have you heard any esan man clamor for self governance?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by ogbukara: 5:08pm On Dec 09, 2015
God bless wole soyinka
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by belente(m): 5:17pm On Dec 09, 2015
joseph1832:
MASSOB went docile during the last administration, hope you remember. And which far part of the east are you talking about?

I've been to almost all the eastern states apart from Ebonyi. So kindly tell me how the far part of some eastern states are?
so, you did not know that during last regime some members of massob made attempt to seize a radio Station in ENUgu
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by ifeomamaria: 7:35pm On Dec 09, 2015
God bless u Prof Wole Soyinka. Wise man. Ur d type of man needed at d corridor of power not these people that are growing and aging without their sense growing with them.
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Monalisa185(f):
kelabok:
We should shill for what? Until our people are totally annihilated or rendered ilellivant politically....... What if it was you...... What would you have done?
was it you? are you a politician? why not allow the politicians speak for themselves.... they are just using you people... FYI...I'm an Igbo lady too...
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Monalisa185(f): 10:25pm On Dec 09, 2015
preciousMI1:
we will miss our northern and western brothers...
cheesy
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Billygee2u: 4:51am On Dec 10, 2015
chesterlee:
Nobel laureate, Professor Wole Soyinka, has emphasized the need for the country’s leadership to approach the agitations for Biafra in a more diplomatic way.

In an exclusive interview on our programme, Channels Book Club, the Nobel laureate said that every ethnic group should be made to feel like a part of the country and good old dialogue is the way to go.

“I wrote an article during the war that Biafra cannot be defeated. People misunderstood what I was saying.

“Once an idea has taken hold, you cannot destroy that idea. You may destroy the people, the carriers of that idea on the battle field but ultimately it’s not the end of the story.

“Let’s not take this position of ‘don’t even talk about it’, ‘under my watch this will never happen’, don’t say things like that. Go into that environment and ask ‘what is it that we can do to make you happy and feel part of this entity?’

“Listen to some other Biafrans and ask them why they want to stay (and say) ‘this is what we are ready to push as the overall authority in this area’.

“Don’t go around saying ‘the sovereignty of the country is indivisible, it’s non-negotiable’ all that kind of language will only make matters worse,” he said.

Source:
http://www.channelstv.com/2015/12/08/biafra-agitation-prof-wole-soyinka-calls-for-more-diplomacy/
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Billygee2u: 4:52am On Dec 10, 2015
coolzeal:
If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. I'm a big advocate of freedom.
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Billygee2u: 4:52am On Dec 10, 2015
mazzi:
You can't kill an ideology!
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Billygee2u: 4:55am On Dec 10, 2015
liberty300:
I saw the interview on channels tv...very nice.

Everyone wants biafra not to leave nigeria..no one is asking why they want to leave in the first place.

Those touts that said they voted in buhari so he'll deal with igbos and constantly asking what the igbos contribute to Nigeria...I hope you're happy when the igbos eventually leave. Pls, endeavour to vote yes when the referendum comes
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Billygee2u: 4:56am On Dec 10, 2015
patrick89:
He has said it all, I have always known that the idea is very deep, the emotions that is rooted in the idea is very deep!
The arrogance of the FG is making it worse, that is nonsense!
I hope the people with conquered spirit are listening!
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by lloyd042: 4:56am On Dec 10, 2015
I like Prof Wole Soyinka said, that is how elders should speak and I think Donald Trump should come and learn from him.
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by Chukazu: 10:30am On Dec 10, 2015
joseph1832:
Please learn to speak less of things which you know little or nothing of.

My tribe is Esan, have you heard any esan man clamor for self governance?
first, am not the one to determine the level of ambition and aspirations of your tribe.. the Esan pple and maybe Goodluck Jonathan had served your interest as a South south. we know what we want as a pple, and no body should stand on our way.maybe your tribe is too small to seek self determination, as for us,we are well too big to be dominated by anyone
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by joseph1832(m): 10:40am On Dec 10, 2015
Chukazu:
first, am not the one to determine the level of ambition and aspirations of your tribe.. the Esan pple and maybe Goodluck Jonathan had served your interest as a South south. we know what we want as a pple, and no body should stand on our way.maybe your tribe is too small to seek self determination, as for us,we are well too big to be dominated by anyone
If the embolden is true, then why are you and your kind screaming about marginalization?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 11:53am On Dec 10, 2015
joseph1832:
And how did the white supremacist and nazis end? You're such a pathetic tribalist. Its such a shame!. tongue
they are still your demigod! if you snap picture with an empty white person, you will rush and post it on FB, instagram and twitter!!
sense you no get!!!
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 11:55am On Dec 10, 2015
joseph1832:
Biafran flags being flown in some houses doesn't translate to it being flown in every house. Don't generalize please.

The desire for whatever freedom they seek is only the figment of some peoples imagination.
conquered mind!!! biafra will come and you will burn!
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by patrick89(m): 11:58am On Dec 10, 2015
Ikology:
I don't know why we always brand every person with opposing views as non Igbo. Do you think most Igbo Lagosians care? What of Igbos born in the North? I support this agitation for fair representation in Nigerian project and restructuring of Nigeria.
I don't know if you have been following me, I was born and bred in lagos too, but I'm not among conquered mind like you! imagine every igbo man reasons and behaves like joe igbokwe? don't you think we'll be a pawn?
Re: Biafra Agitation: Prof Wole Soyinka Calls For More Diplomacy by joseph1832(m): 12:18pm On Dec 10, 2015
patrick89:
conquered mind!!! biafra will come and you will burn!
From 1967, biafra has not come till this day. So please wake up and smell reality and stop deceiving yourself!
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