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Nobleking2000:
I am also a proud product of this apprentice scheme just remaining 2 years to go.

Ya gazielu gi nwanne.

doveda:
What more money?
What is the big deal about a scheme that as been in existence for like forever?
Ehat is so special about recovery from civil war especially where there are jobs, government aids FG allocations etc?

This article make it seem like it is some information very special. alaabegi go siddon somewhere

With your level of comprehension I can't help but wonder how your navigate through life daily. You must be really fortunate!

omonnakoda:
Depends on how you define GREATEST. I did nod say "biggest" they are different words

Now you are trying to hide behind words, so tell me how did you define 'greatest' in this context?

omonnakoda:
Dangote is a perfect example .He came from a trading family and there is no other way to describe his development other than APPRNTICESHIP. He has now evolved from trading to manufacturing.What is noteworthy is he has been backed by family and it has taken more than one family generation to arrive where he is.No doubt he has benefited from political patronage but there are many others who had similar access before him
Dangote has adopted corporate practices and employs talent from everywhere. Trying to restrict recruitment to kinsmen and unnecessary rivalry and jealousy is a bane of many Ibo traders.
In Nigeria we think we know business but we are still learners. Ultimately business is about size and traders will always be sardines in a world of sharks. What is it that Shoprite is doing that Nigerians cannot do?

look you are writing rubbish! dangote was supported by govt, obj and some leaders laundered money into that company!
You are making up story that will create disaffection! you have no prove of what you are saying!
if igbos restrict the people why would my father's first boy come from Abia state while I'm from anambra?
why is it that markets dominated by igbos are very coordinated, little or no rancour, no juju etc
you hardly know the real owner of a shop!
your people are into buying and selling too, but can they pamper customer like the way we igbo do!

Brugge:
With your level of comprehension I can't help but wonder how your navigate through life daily. You must be really fortunate!

No be the truth?

Tank yew

Imagine ‘Igbo and apprenticeship'

Bunch of clowns

omonnakoda:
There is nothing uniquely Ibo about apprenticeship .Generally you have apprenticeships among traders and also craftsmen followng different traditions. Trading is common in Men among the Hausas and some Ibo groups while among the Yoruba trading is done mostly by women.Not all Ibo groups are traders.
Hausas trade in foreign exchange, gold,agricultural products to name a few.They too have experience of travelling with large quantities of cash across West Africa for generations.
Apprenticeship is the model used by many Yoruba craftsmen to learn their trade whether as building contractors,mechanics,tailors,fabricators of metals( local machinery truck bodies etc). This also operates among Hausas who are a large body of mechanics servicing the heavy goods trucks in Sagamu and Ibadan.
The notable issue here in this Ibo apprenticeship is this model of serving for a term and then being rewarded afterwards. The biblical story of Jacob and Rebecca comes to mind.He was asked to serve for 7 years for his bride but on completion he was given Leah the older sister because the "older must marry first" and so had to serve another 7 years for his true love. Human beings are human beings and will always try to cheat and lie if they can get away with it. We have heard so many Rebecca stories.
What is important is we are not sold this idea that somehow buying and selling is all there is to business or is the best thing a young person can or should be doing with his life.
I remain critical of the Ibo mindset of buying and selling and crying for a sea port because there is no development no moving to the next level,no manufacturing vision. No major economy has so many traders.Ultimately we need big consolidated trading companies that can negotiate with manufacturers as equals ,negotiate better deals and deliver quality to consumers. As things are most Ibo traders are not in a position to replace defective manufactured goods and this creates reputational problems often unfairly. That is the vision we need ,Nigerian Shoprites and so on in every sector from pharmaceutics,grocery,spare parts etc How is this integrated with modern technology such as the internet etc. A model where 1000 small players are each bringing in one container a month is outdated. That is the real threat to Ibo traders in the future and a challenge to Nigeria

More and more apprenticeships will not lead us anywhere as a nation. That is not a 21st century doing business.If we do not wake up we will only succumb to the Shoprites and Walmarts of the world.

The narrative of £20 somehow had to find its way into the story.Another opportunity for self affirmation.Okay.but that was then and this is now. We all want to buy quality good with our phones and have them delivered to our homes and if there are problems we want good customer service.Those are the NEW SKILLS any 21st century business needs not just buying and selling

Let me point out something that might interest you, did you know that research has shown that the best way to create employment is through small scale business? The call for big manufacturing companies and industries may not necessarily be what we need in our country now. If you have time, try and look up the Israeli business model and you will realized the story behind their economic success is not based on massive industrialization or the setting up of huge 'capitalist' companies.

smoothpapuzy:
This of you that stay in Woji porthcourt. You would know that supermarket that is opp nvigwe jxn. One of the boys that work there was settled 2years ago and if you see his shop now. He has his shop at unipprt area and is doing so well. Now has a car and was telling me he would soon get a wife.
I was so happy for him. This was someone without hope but after serving his master for 7year, his dreams are becoming true. However, some boys are not so fortunate, their masters start cooking up stories to let them leave after they have served a couple of year. All in all, in time of great need, we Igbo offered that helping hand.

This is why I will always refer to what chimamanda adichie's "single story". it is very important to tell your stories before people manufacturer what they like, we igbos have a lot of conquered people among us! imagine if every igbo man reasons and behaves like Joe igbokwe? we would have been a pawn! Joe igbokwe and other igbos of his like are conquered people that can never stand firm against their master!!
We have a very unique system that can be modernised to a better way, but you will see people writing rubbish about it.. We igbos do not hate ourselves as wrongly accused by some quaters

amazingspiderma:
Like you rightly said,the igbos have to innovate,by translating wealth in trading into manufacturing.They are stuck with the old formula.
Secondly,they very rich among them need to employ special advicers,like lawyers, and accomplished manager to help improve their businesses in areas such administration,acquisition and mergers.
Thirdly,with all the riches in the East,they are so few companies that are in that are trading in the stock exchange.
Lastly,the sucessive wealth of the igbo does not usually cross over to the next generation unlike other regions in Nigeria,as the pioneers of business have poor/insufficient succession planning in place.
Most of the apprentices have to be members of their family or kindred.There are igbos,that will not train someoneelse unless his is one of them.This might be a way of securing wealth,but it limits the pool of human potential and network.
The weakness of this model is that everyone has to invent his/her own success.This is a major issue.

no tribe have manufacturing firms than ndigbo!! you might say it's not enough! but we will get there!!

mazzi:
What I wanted to do in life but my parents insisted I must complete my education.
If my parents had allowed me venture into biz earlier when my blood was as hot as coal I would be controllin billions now and I can still go back to school to acquire 'white man' education
Now after graduating from the university am still back to business.I go still make the billions sha cos it's in me(as a core igbo boy).

wat biz are u into?

doveda:
No be the truth?

Tank yew

Imagine ‘Igbo and apprenticeship'

Bunch of clowns

Joke apart it is sad that when people like you see any write up you people start making out issues with it whether it is in favor of one tribe or the other. The truth is when you see a write up read it with open mind and if you want to critic it do based on the subject matter not on frivolous ground. Critics based on soundness of the write up will help other people see the shortsightedness or merit of the article and people can learn from it. But when you start pulling the ethnic cards everything gets muddy and people forget about the main message and start tackling senseless issue.

You may be enjoying it but it is of no good. The day I felt sorry about Nigerian youths and their attitudes towards having a deep and meaningful conversation was during my visit in Athens, when the Greeks are warming up for their 'IXO' votes, you need to listen to high school students of voting age, college students, parents and cab drivers engage in logical argument with facts and I begin to wonder what has eating the brain of our young people.

You may thing it is funny but we need to cultivate it as an habit until it becomes a part of us, I understand that we still have some fundamental issues that come into play when we have conversations with people in our country but at least with an online forum those constraints have been removed. The flip side is, instead of making good use of the absence of such cultural barriers that hinders meaningful conversation we abuse such privilege.

Just think about it, Nigeria is our country and it is time we start seeing it that way and acting it out.

patrick89:
no tribe have manufacturing firms than ndigbo!! you might say it's not enough! but we will get there!!

Please name a few,I would love to update my knowledge.

doveda:
What more money?
What is the big deal about a scheme that as been in existence for like forever?
Ehat is so special about recovery from civil war especially where there are jobs, government aids FG allocations etc?

This article make it seem like it is some information very special. alaabegi go siddon somewhere

what scheme? you like making noise! this is not twitter or facebook and media outlets where you make noise! this is a very wonderful scheme that has no root anywhere except igboland! if you as a yoruba man brings a boy from ekiti as an ogun man, will you house him? clothe him? take care of his needs, why he does the trading for you? will you insult his father, mother and family someday? what govt aid are you talking about? when after the war igbos were treated like rags, no job for you if your are igbo, when did igbos start enlisting into military paraphernalia? you make is sound so easy yet, common Omo sè is modern day slavery in yoruba land! you can not feed him, cloth or even house him, what a wicked people! you envy yourself to a fault!
for one to get something the person must lick your assss!!
you think I don't know you haters!

patrick89:
where are the people that say igbos hate themselves cc abagworo, beremx,NgeneUkwenu and other conquered igbos come and dispute this fact!

Apprenticeship in Igbo culture has a part that
comprises 'igba ndu' or covenanting. The apprentice or 'nwanga' by that becomes more or less family member rather than 'odibo' or paid or hired hand. He shares in the fortunes
of the home.
The relationship becomes even more binding after. I rented a house from a buildn material seller who was helped in the build by his master of over 10 yrs ago. We had to wait for
months before his oga came to receive and bless the first rent. The boy respects his oga more than his father, and the oga cannot do
anything without theo boy's imput despite
his many grown sons. One lives in PortHarcour while the other lives in Lagos.

Ralphlauren:
What about those that hit shortchanged by their "masters"?

It's a well known fact that many "masters" will wait until the 5th or 6th year of an agreed say for example 7 years "apprenticeship" and then come up with a frivolous allegation against the "servant" and hence refuse to set them up or settle them financially and then leaving them with nothing.

It's very RAMPANT with the ibos. This is they key reason why many of their boys and girls are no longer interested in the "scheme".

How can one spend 7 years with no formal education as a "houseboy", "shop attendant", "sales boy" or whatever duties the "master" comes up with and then get chased any with nothing to show for it - no shop, no money and no goods !

Yes..it happens.
But those expelled boys can survive with virtually any amount of money/resources at their disposal because they know the secret of the business combined with discipline.
Again, they can easily get helps from relatives, shopmates, customers and dealer/suppliers who see him as a humble, trustworthy and hardworking boy. Those dealers normally give them any amount of goods they need on credit only for them to return the money after selling.
Lastly, the smart ones can make savings from the goods they sell for their Master without touching or stealling their Master's capital or profit......I mean you can be a millionaire while still serving your Boss ''I dont mean stealling ooo!''...IGBO Boyz here knows what I mean...apriko things sha...haha.
If Oga say make u sell am 20k....you just say yes Sir! The next thing is if im comot u sell am 30k or 25k....luckily u may sell 15, 30 or even 50pieces per day...d whole money weh dey ontop the 20k na ur own joor. Calculate am...but if you Boss catch you,,,na you go suffer oo! Some can even be almost as rich as their Boss becos He pays d whole bills from His profits while those boys pays nothing and they dont usually have time to go out to squander the chuwa-chuwa or apriko. Note, not in all cases.
The one I know saved upto 30mill...I mean cool 30milly under his Boss. after his settlement, built a hotel in Enugu town and sent about 10 boys abroad. If you see him inside His Rang Rover, you wont believe that He is the owner ..haha

amazingspiderma:
Please name a few,I would love to update my knowledge.

me? name a few? for what? so you will start your heinous act on them I won't!! 60 percent of nigerian small scale industries are owned by igbos #fact!!!

Brugge:
Joke apart it is sad that when people like you see any write up you people start making out issues with it whether it is in favor of one tribe on the other. The truth is when you see a write up read it with open mind and if you want to critic it do based on the subject matter not on frivolous ground. Critics based on soundness of the write up will help other people say the short shortsightedness or merit of the article and people can learn from it. But when you start by pulling the ethnic cards everything gets muddy and people forget about the main message and start tackling senseless issue.

You may be enjoying it but it is of no good. The day I felt sorry about Nigerian youths and their attitudes towards having a deep and meaningful conversation was during my visit in Athens, when the Greeks are warming up for their 'IXO' vote, you need to listen to high school students of voting age, college students, parents and cab drivers engage in conversation based on substance with facts and logical argument and I begin to wonder what has eating the brain of our young people.

You may thing it is funny but we need to cultivate it as an habit until it becomes a part of us, I understand that we still have some fundamental issues that come into blame when we have conversations with people in our country but at least with an online forum so those constraints have been removed. The flip side is instead of making good use of the absence of such cultural barriers that hinders meaningful conversation with are abusing such privilege.

Just think about it, Nigeria is our country and it is time we start seeing it that way and acting it out.

If you considered Nigeria as one, you should join and hands with me to condemn the author of this article. Clearly, he is ignorant of ethnic groups' practices outside his own. As we all know it is commonplace for Igbos to remind us about how successful they are especially in the world of business which to be sincere baffles me because sincerely I still cannot figure out the correlation between Igbos and business. It makes me wonder whether it is because you consider it a new thing or something. And if you were to be sincere with yourself, you can't deny that they you deal mainly in substandard products.

Trading, apprenticeship, travelling far and wide in the interests of commerce IS NOT NEW.

Are we not talking about the same Iyalojas and Babalojas who send their wards to 1.5 mill/session secondary schools in Yorubaland or to private universities in Nigeria

Maybe if you stopped trying to differentiate yourself from other ethnic groups, you might start seeing other people in a new light and humble yourself to your weaknesses.

Till then!

diportivo:
"He chooses from a poor family because a poor family may have about eight children that the parents cannot effectively cater for."

This tho

Bronzegoddess, bia godi

Na true

Is truelie true

This article is on point

Davidifeanyi:
Yes..it happens.
But those expelled boys can survive with virtually any amount of money/resources at their disposal because they know the secret of the business combined with discipline.
Again, they can easily get helps from relatives, shopmates, customers and dealer/suppliers who see him as a humble, trustworthy and hardworking boy. Those dealers normally give them any amount of goods they need on credit only for them to return the money after selling.
Lastly, the smart ones can make savings from the goods they sell for their Master without touching or stealling their Master's capital or profit......I mean you can be a millionaire while still serving your Boss ''I dont mean stealling ooo!''...IGBO Boyz here knows what I mean...apriko things sha...haha.
If Oga say make u sell am 20k....you just say yes Sir! The next thing is if im comot u sell am 30k or 25k....luckily u may sell 15, 30 or even 50pieces per day...d whole money weh dey ontop the 20k na ur own joor. Calculate am...but if you Boss catch you,,,na you go suffer oo! Some can even be almost as rich as their Boss becos He pays d whole bills from His profits while those boys pays nothing and they dont usually have time to go out to squander the chuwa-chuwa or apriko. Note, not in all cases.
The one I know saved upto 30mill...I mean cool 30milly under his Boss. after his settlement, built a hotel in Enugu town and sent about 10 boys abroad. If you see him inside His Rang Rover, you wont believe that He is the owner ..haha

30 million naira from armed robbery, kidnapping and fraud

You people must be very very rich

patrick89:
what scheme? you like making noise! this is not twitter or facebook and media outlets where you make noise! this is a very wonderful scheme that has no root anywhere except igboland! if you as a yoruba man brings a boy from ekiti as an ogun man, will you house him? clothe him? take care of his needs, why he does the trading for you? will you insult his father, mother and family someday? what govt aid are you talking about? when after the war igbos were treated like rags, no job for you if your are igbo, when did igbos start enlisting into military paraphernalia? you make is sound so easy yet, common Omo sè is modern day slavery in yoruba land! you can not feed him, cloth or even house him, what a wicked people! you envy yourself to a fault!
for one to get something the person must lick your assss!!
you think I don't know you haters!

Hehehe

You don't deserve my reply

Keep deceiving yourself

patrick89:
me? name a few? for what? so you will start your heinous act on them I won't!! 60 percent of nigerian small scale industries are owned by igbos #fact!!!

Patrick please I only asked you for facts.If you don't have,be noble enough to admit it.
No need to deflect the question.



Here is facts for you.
There is no single manufacturing company in Owerri and Ebonyi.In Enugu only AMA Eke.In Abia only Golden guniea brewery and a few local companies in Aba like JC Udeagbala and some soap making companies,that is if it still exist.Aba also has cloth,bags and shoe manufacturing.In Onitsha IBB,Ibeto,Innosson are the main industries as at 2010.
Where are they on the national leaugue of companies.I once visited a client from the East,he had a plant that manufactures Soya milk in South Korea.He sends the finished product back home to sell in Nigeria.
The Igbos should be the first region to benefit from any industrial indigienization policies in Nigeria.But if there is no structure,there is no way it can fulfil that goal.
My point is the Igbo business model is still the 70's model.Like I said,this apprenticeship model is restricted to kith and kin.There is so much more beyound the walls of ethinicity.If you doubt,take a look at Dangote.
It is not an insult,it is a fact.
Let's learnt to face facts.

doveda:


Whether Yorubas influenced them or not. I do not know about that

All I know is that apprenticeship has been in the Western part of Nigeria since God knows when, so I don't see how it is a big deal.

the difference is that the Yoruba apprentice settles his master but in igbo culture the reverse is the case.

Davidifeanyi:
Yes..it happens.
But those expelled boys can survive with virtually any amount of money/resources at their disposal because they know the secret of the business combined with discipline.
Again, they can easily get helps from relatives, shopmates, customers and dealer/suppliers who see him as a humble, trustworthy and hardworking boy. Those dealers normally give them any amount of goods they need on credit only for them to return the money after selling.
Lastly, the smart ones can make savings from the goods they sell for their Master without touching or stealling their Master's capital or profit......I mean you can be a millionaire while still serving your Boss ''I dont mean stealling ooo!''...IGBO Boyz here knows what I mean...apriko things sha...haha.
If Oga say make u sell am 20k....you just say yes Sir! The next thing is if im comot u sell am 30k or 25k....luckily u may sell 15, 30 or even 50pieces per day...d whole money weh dey ontop the 20k na ur own joor. Calculate am...but if you Boss catch you,,,na you go suffer oo! Some can even be almost as rich as their Boss becos He pays d whole bills from His profits while those boys pays nothing and they dont usually have time to go out to squander the chuwa-chuwa or apriko. Note, not in all cases.
The one I know saved upto 30mill...I mean cool 30milly under his Boss. after his settlement, built a hotel in Enugu town and sent about 10 boys abroad. If you see him inside His Rang Rover, you wont believe that He is the owner ..haha

No I do not subscribe to this! it might suspicion! you know as booyi, you are also part of the family, the business is also yours , you should be keeping the money in the counter though some people don't care what their booyi does!

redcap:
the difference is that the Yoruba apprentice settles his master but in igbo culture the reverse is the case.

Bla bla bla

Davidifeanyi:
Yes..it happens.
But those expelled boys can survive with virtually any amount of money/resources at their disposal because they know the secret of the business combined with discipline.
Again, they can easily get helps from relatives, shopmates, customers and dealer/suppliers who see him as a humble, trustworthy and hardworking boy. Those dealers normally give them any amount of goods they need on credit only for them to return the money after selling.
Lastly, the smart ones can make savings from the goods they sell for their Master without touching or stealling their Master's capital or profit......I mean you can be a millionaire while still serving your Boss ''I dont mean stealling ooo!''...IGBO Boyz here knows what I mean...apriko things sha...haha.
If Oga say make u sell am 20k....you just say yes Sir! The next thing is if im comot u sell am 30k or 25k....luckily u may sell 15, 30 or even 50pieces per day...d whole money weh dey ontop the 20k na ur own joor. Calculate am...but if you Boss catch you,,,na you go suffer oo! Some can even be almost as rich as their Boss becos He pays d whole bills from His profits while those boys pays nothing and they dont usually have time to go out to squander the chuwa-chuwa or apriko. Note, not in all cases.
The one I know saved upto 30mill...I mean cool 30milly under his Boss. after his settlement, built a hotel in Enugu town and sent about 10 boys abroad. If you see him inside His Rang Rover, you wont believe that He is the owner ..haha

No I do not subscribe to this! it might suspicion! you know as booyi, you are also part of the family, the business is also yours , you should be keeping the money in the counter though some people don't care what their booyi does!
it always depends on the type of the Master!!

patrick89:
look you are writing rubbish! dangote was supported by govt, obj and some leaders laundered money into that company!
You are making up story that will create disaffection! you have no prove of what you are saying!
if igbos restrict the people why would my father's first boy come from Abia state while I'm from anambra?
why is it that markets dominated by igbos are very coordinated, little or no rancour, no juju etc
you hardly know the real owner of a shop!
your people are into buying and selling too, but can they pamper customer like the way we igbo do!

Your mother certainly was delivering rubbish when she birthed you. Go and learn some manners,baboon!!

Brugge:
Now you are trying to hide behind words, so tell me how did you define 'greatest' in this context?

Well you should have asked that FIRST not jump like a randy antelope

doveda:
If you considered Nigeria as one, you should join and hands with me to condemn the author of this article. Clearly, he is ignorant of ethnic groups' practices outside his own. As we all know it is commonplace for Igbos to remind us about how successful they are especially in the world of business which to be sincere baffles me because sincerely I still cannot figure out the correlation between Igbos and business. It makes me wonder whether it is because you consider it a new thing or something. And if you were to be sincere with yourself, you can't deny that they you deal mainly in substandard products.

Trading, apprenticeship, travelling far and wide in the interests of commerce IS NOT NEW.

Are we not talking about the same Iyalojas and Babalojas who send their wards to 1.5 mill/session secondary schools in Yorubaland or to private universities in Nigeria

Maybe if you stopped trying to differentiate yourself from other ethnic groups, you might start seeing other people in a new light and humble yourself to your weaknesses.

Till then!

you can bleed from now till tomorrow we all know your hatred is inherently-impish
We have a system we are proud of and not the ewedu selling cat faces!!
how many of your men sell in the open market? aside timber and nurtw what is the biggest informal sector that employ your people imp!

patrick89:
you can bleed from now till tomorrow we all know your hatred is inherently-impish
We have a system we are proud of and not the ewedu selling cat faces!!
how many of your men sell in the open market? aside timber and nurtw what is the biggest informal sector that employ your people imp!

;DD

Chest-beater

As great as the OP is, it still didn't run away from the self affirmation thingy like someone else pointed out. The 20 pounds analogy shouldn't have found it's way into the write-up if indeed it is written to teach people to adopt the Igbo way. 1970 to now is how many years? How many generations? I know many Igbo whose fathers weren't given 20 Pounds and it hasn't stopped them from being the best they could be. Some people are already even rubbing it in the faces of other tribes as if there are no other spheres of human endeavor one can be good at apart from trading.

Moral of my write-up: lets drop the toga of inferiority complex or always needing someone to pat us in the back before we feel good about ourselves. The world has moved past the stage where any man or tribe can be an island unto itself. Embrace diversity. The major strength of Nigeria lies in the diversity of its people. Let's embrace it. After all, outside of these shores, the passport mentions you as a Nigerian not as a Yoruba, Igbo, Hausa or other tribes.

Apprenticeship is a good thing but we can always improve on it. It's really a shame that as big as Nigeria is and the number of people who are traders, we don't have supermarket chains or trading stores owned by Nigerians that can stand shoulder to shoulder with the Walmart and Shoprite of this world. We need to stop thinking local and start thinking global.

Nigeria can dominate and we will. But we need to stop being petty first.

amazingspiderma:
Patrick please I only asked you for facts.If you don't have,be noble enough to admit it.
No need to deflect the question.



Here is facts for you.
There is no single manufacturing company in Owerri and Ebonyi.In Enugu only AMA Eke.In Abia only Golden guniea brewery and a few local companies in Aba like JC Udeagbala and some soap making companies,that is if it still exist.Aba also has cloth,bags and shoe manufacturing.In Onitsha IBB,Ibeto,Innosson are the main industries as at 2010.
Where are they on the national leaugue of companies.I once visited a client from the East,he had a plant that manufactures Soya milk in South Korea.He sends the finished product back home to sell in Nigeria.
The Igbos should be the first region to benefit from any industrial indigienization policies in Nigeria.But if there is no structure,there is no way it can fulfil that goal.
My point is the Igbo business model is still the 70's model.Like I said,this apprenticeship model is restricted to kith and kin.There is so much more beyound the walls of ethinicity.If you doubt,take a look at Dangote.
It is not an insult,it is a fact.
Let's learnt to face facts.

sorry sir I can not start this type of senseless comparison!
it's either you are not intelligent or mischievous!
when did I mention south east? do you know the meaning of smes? I don't even know where to start with, nnewi, oba, ogidi, ogbunike, onitsha awka have the most up and coming companies mostly unknown, and unpopular!
you're talking of known people, I'm talking paint, drugs,motor and machine parts, foods, shoes and clothes and other things!! and you're talking poo, I don't want to mention big companies! but small companies litter east!
and outside east. that I can not mention!

Mbediogu:
Apprenticeship in Igbo culture has a part that
comprises 'igba ndu' or covenanting. The apprentice or 'nwanga' by that becomes more or less family member rather than 'odibo' or paid or hired hand. He shares in the fortunes
of the home.
The relationship becomes even more binding after. I rented a house from a buildn material seller who was helped in the build by his master of over 10 yrs ago. We had to wait for
months before his oga came to receive and bless the first rent. The boy respects his oga more than his father, and the oga cannot do
anything without theo boy's imput despite
his many grown sons. One lives in PortHarcour while the other lives in Lagos.

you are more than correct!!! Perfect I must add!!