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Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by diportivo: 2:42pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
"He chooses from a poor family because a poor family may have about eight children that the parents cannot effectively cater for." This tho Bronzegoddess, bia godi Na true |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Macelliot(m): 2:43pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
ChappyChase:Anambra state has the highest number of billionaires, Highest number of doctorate degree and professors in Nigeria.. Still yet, Anambra state has the highest numbers of entrepreneurs in Nigeria... 10 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by omonnakoda: 2:44pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
There is nothing uniquely Ibo about apprenticeship .Generally you have apprenticeships among traders and also craftsmen followng different traditions. Trading is common in Men among the Hausas and some Ibo groups while among the Yoruba trading is done mostly by women.Not all Ibo groups are traders. Hausas trade in foreign exchange, gold,agricultural products to name a few.They too have experience of travelling with large quantities of cash across West Africa for generations. Apprenticeship is the model used by many Yoruba craftsmen to learn their trade whether as building contractors,mechanics,tailors,fabricators of metals( local machinery truck bodies etc). This also operates among Hausas who are a large body of mechanics servicing the heavy goods trucks in Sagamu and Ibadan. The notable issue here in this Ibo apprenticeship is this model of serving for a term and then being rewarded afterwards. The biblical story of Jacob and Rebecca comes to mind.He was asked to serve for 7 years for his bride but on completion he was given Leah the older sister because the "older must marry first" and so had to serve another 7 years for his true love. Human beings are human beings and will always try to cheat and lie if they can get away with it. We have heard so many Rebecca stories. What is important is we are not sold this idea that somehow buying and selling is all there is to business or is the best thing a young person can or should be doing with his life. I remain critical of the Ibo mindset of buying and selling and crying for a sea port because there is no development no moving to the next level,no manufacturing vision. No major economy has so many traders.Ultimately we need big consolidated trading companies that can negotiate with manufacturers as equals ,negotiate better deals and deliver quality to consumers. As things are most Ibo traders are not in a position to replace defective manufactured goods and this creates reputational problems often unfairly. That is the vision we need ,Nigerian Shoprites and so on in every sector from pharmaceutics,grocery,spare parts etc How is this integrated with modern technology such as the internet etc. A model where 1000 small players are each bringing in one container a month is outdated. That is the real threat to Ibo traders in the future and a challenge to Nigeria More and more apprenticeships will not lead us anywhere as a nation. That is not a 21st century doing business.If we do not wake up we will only succumb to the Shoprites and Walmarts of the world. The narrative of £20 somehow had to find its way into the story.Another opportunity for self affirmation.Okay.but that was then and this is now. We all want to buy quality good with our phones and have them delivered to our homes and if there are problems we want good customer service.Those are the NEW SKILLS any 21st century business needs not just buying and selling 4 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by noblegrex: 2:47pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
That is just one thing I so much liked about the igbo.regardless of any surfferings the apprentice might experience, just only if he can endure(no pain no gain)although not always. But the other thing is that most of them do support it with something.the money often have a back up. If you know what I mean.then after you'll hear names like Nnamdi 1 of okwa. Chukwudi 1 of .... Etc funny people.my people. |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Ezemust: 2:47pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
patrick89:wow. they will learn in a long run |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Macelliot(m): 2:47pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
doveda:They were influenced by the Yorubas.. Believe me, I grew up in the West, but since I relocated back to the East, my Eyes don clear... My determination and self-willed to make it tripled... 5 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Ezemust: 2:47pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
patrick89:wow. they will learn in the long run |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Objectives: 2:48pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
I know a few folks that fortune has smiled on through this apprenticeship that igbos are known for and that's a good thing. • Let me use this opportunity to say to the Igbos' • • You are very industrious and business oriented, very instrumental in our business/market environment. No one can ignore your contributions to business growth & expansion in the country. • Igbos, Nigerians cherish and appreciate you as a tribe, and we recognize that you are a meaningful part of this great nation. 10 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Nicepoker(m): 2:49pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
confamgist237:buy some sense. Even the one of 5naira 7 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Nobody: 2:51pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
so wat is ur bone of contention now@op |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by omonnakoda: 2:52pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
To tell us how great Ibos are The greatest problem of the Ibo is inferiority complex and everything they do on the outside is to compensate for what is going on on the inside. The greatest selling product in Nigeria today is cows. Those who move cows all over the country are too busy to come online and tell us how rugged they are sleeping under the sky in different place all year round. Everyone is tough in their own way but the Ibo man needs to affirm himself publicly all the time 2 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by musicwriter(m): 3:02pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Yes, long time ago, I read an interview by Mr. Cosmos Maduka of Coscharis motors in which he said he didn't go to secondary school. His family couldn't afford his school fees. He later self-schooled. I did as well. Autodidact is the best!. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by doveda: 3:03pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Macelliot: Whether Yorubas influenced them or not. I do not know about that All I know is that apprenticeship has been in the Western part of Nigeria since God knows when, so I don't see how it is a big deal. |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by doveda: 3:04pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Abegi make you tell them |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Lilimax(f): 3:05pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Macelliot:Yeah there is nothing wrong in making it the right way but desperation has led a lot of my people into something else in other to make it by all means. I'm talking from experience! |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Nobleking2000(m): 3:07pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
I am also a proud product of this apprentice scheme just remaining 2 years to go. 1 Like |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Nobody: 3:08pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
The Ibos have always been rad enterpreneurs |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Masterclass32: 3:10pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
For those that want to die on this thread, pls don't. Its just an article the op copied and pasted. Just let it slide. Its no big deal. A proud Igbo son right here. 7 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by bugzbunny: 3:12pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
irunooboo:U dnt hv any negative tin to say today Eye dey see u.. |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Ralphlauren(m): 3:14pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Afam4eva: Mumu Did you read my previous post before jumping in? |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Chimerase(m): 3:16pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
patrick89:I have told u ngenukwenu is not an iboi man is an aboki man can't u guys get it 3 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by drnoel: 3:21pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
patrick89: The write up brought tears to the eyes of some People. [size=28pt]@5%#pride#ofanation[/size] 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by amazingspiderma: 3:21pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Like you rightly said,the igbos have to innovate,by translating wealth in trading into manufacturing.They are stuck with the old formula. Secondly,they very rich among them need to employ special advicers,like lawyers, and accomplished manager to help improve their businesses in areas such administration,acquisition and mergers. Thirdly,with all the riches in the East,they are so few companies that are in that are trading in the stock exchange. Lastly,the sucessive wealth of the igbo does not usually cross over to the next generation unlike other regions in Nigeria,as the pioneers of business have poor/insufficient succession planning in place. Most of the apprentices have to be members of their family or kindred.There are igbos,that will not train someoneelse unless his is one of them.This might be a way of securing wealth,but it limits the pool of human potential and network. The weakness of this model is that everyone has to invent his/her own success.This is a major issue. 2 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Nobody: 3:36pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
doveda: For once pull your head out of your rear and think properly. The article is not debating on who started the scheme first neither was it saying that the Igbos have more money that other trader but the core point is an expose on the scheme that saw the quick financial recovery of the Igbos after the civil war. I wonder how you take dey cross road self. 11 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by omonnakoda: 3:37pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
amazingspiderma:Dangote is a perfect example .He came from a trading family and there is no other way to describe his development other than APPRNTICESHIP. He has now evolved from trading to manufacturing.What is noteworthy is he has been backed by family and it has taken more than one family generation to arrive where he is.No doubt he has benefited from political patronage but there are many others who had similar access before him Dangote has adopted corporate practices and employs talent from everywhere. Trying to restrict recruitment to kinsmen and unnecessary rivalry and jealousy is a bane of many Ibo traders. In Nigeria we think we know business but we are still learners. Ultimately business is about size and traders will always be sardines in a world of sharks. What is it that Shoprite is doing that Nigerians cannot do? 3 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by Nobody: 3:38pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
omonnakoda: cow may be among the biggest selling products but cow is not the greatest selling product in Nigeria. Please cross check your info again. 3 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by omonnakoda: 3:41pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Brugge:Depends on how you define GREATEST. I did nod say "biggest" they are different words |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by doveda: 3:43pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Brugge: What more money? What is the big deal about a scheme that as been in existence for like forever? Ehat is so special about recovery from civil war especially where there are jobs, government aids FG allocations etc? This article make it seem like it is some information very special. alaabegi go siddon somewhere |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by smoothpapuzy(m): 3:44pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
This of you that stay in Woji porthcourt. You would know that supermarket that is opp nvigwe jxn. One of the boys that work there was settled 2years ago and if you see his shop now. He has his shop at unipprt area and is doing so well. Now has a car and was telling me he would soon get a wife. I was so happy for him. This was someone without hope but after serving his master for 7year, his dreams are becoming true. However, some boys are not so fortunate, their masters start cooking up stories to let them leave after they have served a couple of year. All in all, in time of great need, we Igbo offered that helping hand. 8 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by franklingud(m): 3:55pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Like I always say 'wisdom is the key'. Igbo boys Anyi di too much. Land of the rising sun. 6 Likes |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(m): 3:56pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
Macelliot:You are right! most of them try to behave like yorubas, they live onn twitter and other social media, dance from one party to another, they look for jobs from one company to another, but if you grow among igbos, your reasoning will not be like that, I remember one guy, izu that lived in our area, everything he does is yorubatic, he is working from one company to another th, while his junior brother that lived in the east is now a very rich boy, living in lagos as well, izu lived within yoruba dominated bariga, the spirit of hardworking left him and "office" work creeped into him, and rendered him lazy. You are correct!! 6 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Igbo And Culture Of Apprenticeship by patrick89(m): 4:01pm On Dec 09, 2015 |
omonnakoda: rubbish! before ndigbo took over trading was done by yorubas in lagos, infact go to Odua market where they restricted igbos from owning a shop, yorubas are there looking at each other, when government of when the local government built Ile epo market along Iyana ipaja, they placed order that igbos are not welcomed, but for years, they had to reverse the decision because nobody came! now igbos have taken over the shop!! it's on record that igbos have more number of sms than any tribe, you can deny it but it's true! we may not have any big company like dangote, but numerous indigenous companies owned by igbos exceed your tribesmen own! so go to hell with your storytelling! 6 Likes 1 Share |
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