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Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by mayor4christ(m): 1:53pm On Dec 13, 2015
mazzi:
In other clime what we see are real court trail and sentencing but in nigeria what we see are people standing on trail on the pages of newspaper.
angry angry grin cheesy
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by salahudeen1989: 1:56pm On Dec 13, 2015
bettercreature:
They were carrying out GEJ's order,i dont see a reason why they should be arrested
You are just in hurry,Dasuki will never go down alone
. they should be arrested for not obeying the law. the power of president does not surpass that of constitution!
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by daphil: 1:57pm On Dec 13, 2015
sonOfLucifer:
https://i.imgur.com/l2jzoYg.gif
Did you mean dance of shame?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 1:58pm On Dec 13, 2015
Dedetwo:
Are you okay? Everything about Nigeria is tribal. It is the height of ignorance to insinuate otherwise. Buhari's election as president is tribally constructed yet you have impetus to tell us the call to criminalize Okonjo-Iweala on an officially documented transaction is not tribally motivated. When did Nigerians grow out of their tribal cocoons?
It is not even the tribal card that disgusts. Tribalism is not an excuse for plain stupidity. My worry is on the fact that somebody is being criminalized based on what a newspaper says about him/her and not on the basis of the law court's verdict. And this person still talks about objectivism and the failure of the youth and Nigerians rather than looking at his failure as a human being with commonsense. Smh.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by salahudeen1989: 1:58pm On Dec 13, 2015
GOOD!!!
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 1:58pm On Dec 13, 2015
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Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by salahudeen1989: 2:02pm On Dec 13, 2015
Reyginus:
It is not even the tribal card that disgusts. Tribalism is not an excuse for plain stupidity. My worry is on the fact that somebody is being criminalized based on what a newspaper says about him/her and not on the basis of the law court's verdict. And this person still talks about objectivism. Smh.
. GUY is it that you are benefiting from the stealing or what? is DASUKI an igbo man? pls think like normal being!
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by EdCure: 2:03pm On Dec 13, 2015
PassingShot:
Isn't the bailout supposed to be a loan to the beneficiary states? Why are u making them feel it's same thing with their oga thief's?
I did point out that the purpose of the bail-out was understood. The poster that i replied to was not worth further details or elaboration.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 2:04pm On Dec 13, 2015
salahudeen1989:
. GUY is it that you are benefiting from the stealing or what? is DASUKI an igbo man? pls think like normal being!
That's not the point. Has Dasuki being convicted? Or is it that by default, anyone accused of corruption in this administration is guilty and the sane people who wait for the court to decide the foolish ones?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Acidosis(m): 2:04pm On Dec 13, 2015
Buhari should please continue the fight on corruption till 2019.


We the masses are seeing the gains of corruption war via massive employment, N5000 alert/monthly, 24/7 power, among others.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by oluamid(m): 2:04pm On Dec 13, 2015
Dedetwo:
Are you okay? Everything about Nigeria is tribal. It is the height of ignorance to insinuate otherwise. Buhari's election as president is tribally constructed yet you have impetus to tell us the call to criminalize Okonjo-Iweala on an officially documented transaction is not tribally motivated. When did Nigerians grow out of their tribal cocoons?
I hope you saw what i called "My stand" on the matter. FYI, because you are a tribal warrior who sees nothing wrong with public officers diverting 'the national cake' because they are from your tribe doesn't mean every other Nigerian have to do the same.

If the 'goat stealing the yams' is from my tribe, by all means prosecute him and bring his matter to the public court.

I'm sorry, I don't conform to your stereotype.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Gamusgamus: 2:05pm On Dec 13, 2015
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 2:06pm On Dec 13, 2015
oluamid:
I hope you saw what i called "My stand" on the matter. FYI, because you are a tribal warrior who sees nothing wrong with public officers diverting 'the national cake' because they are from your tribe doesn't mean every other Nigerian have to do the same.

If the 'goat stealing the yams' is from my tribe, by all means prosecute him and bring his matter to the public court.

I'm sorry, I don't conform to your stereotype.
Please respond to my comment.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by ngoziama: 2:07pm On Dec 13, 2015
SleekyP:
http://saharareporters.com/2015/12/12/why-buhari-must-order-immediate-arrest-okonjo-iweala-and-cbn-governor-godwin-emefiele
Rubbish post.tell us who sent you and I will tell you how much change you were given.jealousy go roast all of you.mtchewwwww
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by JayJustus(m): 2:12pm On Dec 13, 2015
tdammy:
All this confused Nigerian youth I don tire for unaa especially nairaland youth, U are all shouting corruption corruption corruption.

Can U imaging d amount of monie this people are just moving(stealing). All this monie in dasuki's case alone is enough to build a standard hospital in every local government in Nigeria, yet some idiot go dey spilt rubbish for mouth.


If buhari is going to go tru illegal means to recover stolen funds let him go ahead.

That's part of leadership.

Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by oluamid(m): 2:13pm On Dec 13, 2015
Reyginus:
It is not even the tribal card that disgusts. Tribalism is not an excuse for plain stupidity. My worry is on the fact that somebody is being criminalized based on what a newspaper says about him/her and not on the basis of the law court's verdict. And this person still talks about objectivism and the failure of the youth and Nigerians rather than looking at his failure as a human being with commonsense. Smh.
Oh! But you never bothered with objectivity when the newspapers were awashed with Buhari's certificate or when the chibok girls were abducted, or when Okonjo-Iweala released a press released stating that she gave billions from the Abacha loot to Dasuki, or when Dasuki's Lawyer said he needs to travel abroad for medical treatment? Did you? Of course not.

I repeat, any 'Goat' that has stolen our national 'yams' must be judged both in the law court and in the court of public opinion.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by fortune1968: 2:15pm On Dec 13, 2015
bettercreature:
President is supreme in Nigeria,those things you mentioned are just in the book,refuse to carry out presidential order at your own peril
this is out of point .is the percieved supremacy of the president legal ? if not ,it should not be defended under any guise and those who carry out such orders need be reprimanded.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by oluamid(m): 2:17pm On Dec 13, 2015
Reyginus:
Please respond to my comment.
Which one? I have responded to every one of my quotes so far.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody:
oluamid:
Oh! But you never bothered with objectivity when the newspapers were awashed with Buhari's certificate or when the chibok girls were abducted, or when Okonjo-Iweala released a press released stating that she gave billions from the Abacha loot to Dasuki, or when Dasuki's Lawyer said he needs to travel abroad for medical treatment? Did you? Of course not.

I repeat, any 'Goat' that has stolen our national 'yams' must be judged both in the law court and in the court of public opinion.
Lololololol. So it's now about Buharis certificate, Chibok girls and Abacha. Lol. I won't let you off easily. And 300million is now billions stated in the press release? Lol. You may be right. It depends on the currency. And once money is released it is corruption? I need to see your law certificate.

Back to stage one. Tell me, should we respect the Judgement of the Court or the Judgement of the Press? My question still stands. 'Who pronounced them guilty as charged? Or who agreed?'. Who is the wise man or foolish one? The one who waits for the courts to pass a verdict or the one who passes it himself when the court is still working on the case? We tend to let our anger for corruption and what it did to us make hasty judgements.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2015
I don't know the constitution you're quoting but this is under chapter 5 - The Legislature [ Authorisation of Expenditure in Default Appropriations]

82. If the Appropriation Bill in respect of any financial year has not been passed into law by the beginning of the financial year, the President may authorise the withdrawal of moneys in the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation for the purpose of meeting expenditure necessary to carry on the services of the Government of the Federation for a period not exceeding months or until the coming into operation of the Appropriate Act, whichever is the earlier:
Provided that the withdrawal in respect of any such period shall not exceed the amount authorised to be withdrawn from the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation under the provisions of the Appropriation Act passed by the National Assembly for the corresponding period in the immediately preceding financial year, being an amount proportionate to the total amount so authorised for the immediately preceding financial year.


Here is the link: http://nigeriaworld.com/focus/constitution/chapter5.html

You need to read 82 too, don't stop at 80. And the same 80 you quoted said... other than Consolidated Revenue...
What does this tell you?

omonnakoda:
Appropriation means a law passed by the National Assembly and assented to by the President for the Federal Government budget.


NIGERIAN CONSTITUTION


E - Powers and Control over Public Funds



80. (1) All revenues or other moneys raised or received by the Federation (not being revenues or other moneys payable under this Constitution or any Act of the National Assembly into any other public fund of the Federation established for a specific purpose) shall be paid into and form one Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation.

(2) No moneys shall be withdrawn from the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation except to meet expenditure that is charged upon the fund by this Constitution or where the issue of those moneys has been authorised by an Appropriation Act, Supplementary Appropriation Act or an Act passed in pursuance of section 81 of this Constitution.

(3) No moneys shall be withdrawn from any public fund of the Federation, other than the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation, unless the issue of those moneys has been authorised by an Act of the National Assembly.

(4) No moneys shall be withdrawn from the Consolidated Revenue Fund or any other public fund of the Federation, except in the manner prescribed by the National Assembly.

In the First place that Money does not belong to the federal government but jointly to the Federal government ,the 36 states and all the LGAS

The President does not have the power to authorize the spending of ONE KOBO without the Nationl Assembly's consent

Secondly even if it belongs to the the FG it must be approved for expenditure by the NAtional Assembly after all late in 2014 the NA had an emergency session to approve a loan of billions of dollars for the military so why did they not do it with the Abacha money?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 2:19pm On Dec 13, 2015
oluamid:
Which one? I have responded to every one of my quotes so far.
Lol. I simply asked who pronounced these corrupt people guilty?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Sleekyshuga(f): 2:20pm On Dec 13, 2015
jaybee3:
Your education is questionable if you had to click on the article before being able to decipher that the article was penned solely to advise PMB.

Geez, their was a comma immediately after Buhari's name on the title. I guess you forgot the use of commas
Hahahhaha grin.. The brother didn't see the 'comma'..

Happy Sunday uncle Jaybee kiss
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by nigeriancuban: 2:25pm On Dec 13, 2015
bettercreature:
They were carrying out GEJ's order,i dont see a reason why they should be arrested
You are just in hurry,Dasuki will never go down alone
when touches one finger,it rub off on the rest..
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by omonnakoda:
centje:
I don't know the constitution you're quoting but this is under chapter 5 - The Legislature [ Authorisation of Expenditure in Default Appropriations]

82. If the Appropriation Bill in respect of any financial year has not been passed into law by the beginning of the financial year, the President may authorise the withdrawal of moneys in the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation for the purpose of meeting expenditure necessary to carry on the services of the Government of the Federation for a period not exceeding months or until the coming into operation of the Appropriate Act, whichever is the earlier:
Provided that the withdrawal in respect of any such period shall not exceed the amount authorised to be withdrawn from the Consolidated Revenue Fund of the Federation under the provisions of the Appropriation Act passed by the National Assembly for the corresponding period in the immediately preceding financial year, being an amount proportionate to the total amount so authorised for the immediately preceding financial year.


Here is the link: http://nigeriaworld.com/focus/constitution/chapter5.html
Had the Appropriation Bill for the index financial year been passed into law? Yes it had and so this provision DOES NOT apply
We are talking about activities taking place a few months TO THE END of the financial year
What is the authorized amount?
Was this Money withdrawn from the consolidated account? No it was NEVER placed in the consolidated account in the first place
Did the president rely on this provision? Was this provision invoked and declared?
Please stop clutching at straws.
There has not been any time in the last 16 years that the appropriation bill was not passed into law on time making it necessary to invoke this provision

At any rate even if this provision is invoked it MUST BE gazetted in WRITING in official records to give it legal force. In fact last year the president went for a supplementary budget to fund security and the NA sat on the weekend to pass it


Finally

(4) No moneys shall be withdrawn from the Consolidated Revenue Fund or any other public fund of the Federation, except in the manner prescribed by the National Assembly.


This covers "ANY OTHER ACCOUNT" In fact no money can be spent without the Authority of the National Assembly

Section 82 that you cite refers very clearly to money that was spent in the SAME WAY in the PREVIOUS YEAR a provision that is clearly referring to recurrent activities(such as salaries) to avoid a shut down of government.

Was this money spent in the same way in the previous year?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by 247notire(m): 2:31pm On Dec 13, 2015
onatisi:
Nairaland and Nigeria is populated majorly by compound fools and idiots who calls themselves educated and enlightened.it is a colossal shame and disgrace that majority of those commenting on this thread will be calling themselves graduates or even students. Firstly it is clearly obvious that majority of commenters here didn't read the article which shows how degraded the average Nigerian youth brain has gone because there is no where in the article where it is written that. Buhari has ordered the arrest of okonjo or anyone rather the writer was advising buhari to do so.
I only wish that foreigners do visit this site and read the comments here because they will be shocked at how colossally stupid Nigerian youths are. To read and understand a passage of less than 50 lines has now become a big giant problem for Nigeria youth,no thanks to English premier league and nonsense music they listen to. Smh
I'm sorry but you haven't made any point. I've gone through the posts myself and I see a very few ppl making the mistake u mentioned. Stop heaping insults on perceived idiots. Your thoughts may be more of a reflection of urself bro.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by oluamid(m): 2:38pm On Dec 13, 2015
Reyginus:
Lololololol. So it's now about Buharis certificate, Chibok girls and Abacha. Lol. I won't let you off easily. And 300million is now billions as released in the press statement?

Back to stage one. Tell me, should we respect the Judgement of the Court or the Judgement of the Press? My question still stands.

'Who pronounced them guilty as
charged? Or who agreed?'.
Both! While the court judgement represents the law, the judgement of the 'press' represents public opinion i.e Nigerians. I hope you know the law was made for Nigerians and not Nigerians for the law?

It is high time we started holding our thiefing politicians to their crimes in this country. Anyone with eyes can see that though we have laws, these laws are easily manipulated by politicians who can afford to rent SANs with part of their loot.

Having said that, anyone who has admitted to receiving money that was not part of the budget or not approved by the House of Assembly nor part of the security vote of the President is already guilty in my book. Okonjo-Iweala already said she gave Dasuki part of the Abacha loot. Dasuki already agreed to have collected part of the Abacha loot. On Friday, Nduka Obaigbena released a public statement that he received funds from Dasuki 'as reparation for boko haram attacks', same with Dokpesi who said he got money for airing of the PDP presidential campaign on his medium (AIT) - all from the ex-National Security Adviser. Is the office of the NSA the right place to move all these funds? Where did all the monies budgeted for buying weapons for the army fly to? Recall that then president, GEJ, had to even borrow a further $1billion to fund this army. And there was someone who had already received $2billion to buy same weapons.

If all these does not warrant condemnation I wonder what should.


Now, what is your question again?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by nobeku: 2:42pm On Dec 13, 2015
centje:
See them grin leaders of tomorrow, I pity this country.

My dear, you haven't countered my points, you just exhibited basic animalistic trait which you are meant to control in this era of civilization. cheesy
Yeah.. I intend to use those animalistic traits to SHRED YOU TO PIECES..NINCOMPOOP!!!!
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Nobody: 2:48pm On Dec 13, 2015
oluamid:
Both! While the court judgement represents the law, the judgement of the 'press' represents public opinion i.e Nigerians. I hope you know the law was made for Nigerians and not Nigerians for the law?

It is high time we started holding our thiefing politicians to their crimes in this country. Anyone with eyes can see that though we have laws, these laws are easily manipulated by politicians who can afford to rent SANs with part of their loot.

Having said that, anyone who has admitted to receiving money that was not part of the budget or not approved by the House of Assembly nor part of the security vote of the President is already guilty in my book. Okonjo-Iweala already said she gave Dasuki part of the Abacha loot. Dasuki already agreed to have collected part of the Abacha loot. On Friday, Nduka Obaigbena released a public statement that he received funds from Dasuki 'as reparation for boko haram attacks', same with Dokpesi who said he got money for airing of the PDP presidential campaign on his medium (AIT) - all from the ex-National Security Adviser. Is the office of the NSA the right place to move all these funds? Where did all the monies budgeted for buying weapons for the army fly to? Recall that then president, GEJ, had to even borrow a further $1billion to fund this army. And there was someone who had already received $2billion to buy same weapons.

If all these does not warrant condemnation I wonder what should.


Now, what is your question again?
Both? See stories begging the question. Lol. I'm done. I know we are expecting the thieves who destroyed the country to be brought to book but we should never allow this expectations to ruin our understanding of Justice. A more intelligent man will always wait for understanding before criticism.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by farem: 3:01pm On Dec 13, 2015
bettercreature:
How much did you get from all these stolen funds? stop acting like illiterate,we youth are the one paying for these bullcraps,You are right to some point tho,PMB must not get involve
You cannot say! The likes of this must have collected a Derica of rice.
T-shirts of saTan in my mind.
All these and more he must defend!
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by oluamid(m): 3:02pm On Dec 13, 2015
Reyginus:
Both? See stories begging the question. Lol. I'm done. I know we are expecting the thieves who destroyed the country to be brought to book but we should never allow this expectations to ruin our understanding of Justice. A more intelligent man will always wait for understanding before criticism.
Begging the question? But I replied your question first before 'writing stories'. My 'stories' was just to establish a base for my argument. A way to make you understand why I've chosen my stand. It doesn't make me less intelligent. It just means I'm willing to go through the extra pains of explaining myself to you. Obviously, I've just wasted my time doing so.


When you get your 'more intelligent man', do let him know more and more Nigerians are becoming tired of excuses of why corrupt public officials shouldn't be clamp in jail the moment it is found out they have stolen our yams.

Stealing is NOW corruption!

Also, learn to argue without making snide remarks.

I rest my case on this thread.
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by Skseries: 3:03pm On Dec 13, 2015
tunjion:
Aboki must be using yoruba identity, becos i dont know see wen my people have become so bigoted and tribalist that they want every igbo persecuted.

Everytime they write press, if it is not Stella Oduah, IT is Alison Madueke, now Ngozi Okonjo Iweala and Emefiele. Nobody ask of Fashola or Tinubu?
did dansuki mention tinubu or fashola's name in the arms deal scandal?
Re: Buhari, Order Immediate Arrest Of Okonjo-Iweala & Emefiele - By Ilesanmi Omabomi by farem: 3:05pm On Dec 13, 2015
oduastates:
Many lived their entire lives under dictatorship and would not recognise a lawful society if you threw it in their faces.
A President has no power to order money from the treasury apart from the money appropriated by the national assembly,and for which he has been granted discretionary powers . Even at that, the money must be spent on what it was appropriated.
Any other act is an act of corruption.
HOPE YOU STILL REMEMBER THAT CORRUPTION IS NOT STEALING?
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