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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 11:42am On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:br bro no where have I assumed or denied anything if the answer u give merits a follow up question I must ask to gain further understanding. pls no grudges |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 11:45am On Dec 16, 2015 |
NanaAmofah: read through our discussion. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 11:47am On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY: All the things in bold were encouraged by God in the Bible. E.g incense is burnt in heaven Rev5:8, God commanded the building of a Temple, Jesus talked about keeping our oil lamps burning, Passover was a season of devotion, etc. So God himself was copying paganism? You see where stupidity and hatred for the Catholic Church are leading you? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 11:48am On Dec 16, 2015 |
NanaAmofah: Still dubiously dodging the simple questions. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 11:49am On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:No need to read through sorry for any kind of assuming as perceived. Hope it is settle (gives a hug and a pat on the back) |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 11:54am On Dec 16, 2015 |
italo:ooooh pls I hav answered u I said those who help me in prayers do not take christ out of my life or is that not the answer to ur question |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 11:59am On Dec 16, 2015 |
Check out my thread about what muslims mean by infidels and infidels must be killed at the religion section with topic who are infidels. Thanks |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:05pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
italo:What is your understanding of paganism. Would you consider Judaism a pagan religion? The catholic priest might be right if he considered Judaism a pagan religion Cc EMILO2STAY 1 Like |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:06pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
italo: Everything he wrote up there were encouraged by the bible not just the bold. Temples,(matt 24:1) incense( ps 141:2), oil lamps( Lk 12:35), votive offerings ( Deut 12:11), holy water(numb 5:17), holidays ( Deut 16:16) and season of devotions(Gen 8:22), processions (2 cor 2:14), blessing of fields(Deut 28:3/4), sacredotal vestments(Lev 16;4), the tonsure (of priests and monks and nuns), (Ex 31:10) images (2 cor 3:10) Unless, he is saying that the bible is of pagan origin. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:09pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
NanaAmofah: Thanks. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:14pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
You should think before you write, you really make up words as you go on. italo: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 12:20pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:since all thes are laid out in the bible and u are following do u also follow all the laws laid out in Leviticus |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:21pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
NanaAmofah: tell me about them. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 12:29pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
I have given you scriptures after scriptures, but as always, you are to blind to see them. Someone like you couldn't understand the bible anyway. You don't understand the truth about Christ,-as I said until you decide to give yourself entirely hole hearted over to Christ alone-instead of Mary, you will never understand the scriptures as they are written. You are just a sounding symbol that makes a lot of noise without any tunes. italo: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:30pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
italo:sorry u have eyes but cannot see, does the bible encourage buiding of any temple to a God?, is our body not the temple of God?, so why should christians build and dedicate a temple. Does the bible command christians to burn incense when praying to God? Are the bolded the only thing u see in that post? What about the rest. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 12:31pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:so u are trying to tell you don't know about the laws in leviticus. I will tell u Most of the third book of moses content is full of laws handed over to moses by God. Pls if u can hav time to read do so because it is so many I can't quote it. From chapter one to chapter 27 thanks |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:33pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
NanaAmofah: Thank you. I am waiting to hear them and how I may be wrong if I keep them. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 12:38pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
italo: Haba, where did the young man claim the bold? He only said God confirms his word with Scripture...you have added your usual wild assumptions. I'm not surprised anyway, it's your usual dubious nature. If you believe his claim is an error, debunk it with reasonable proofs and stop being dubious by adding your own assumptions to his statement(s). I, personally, do not believe it is an error, I have no proof it is an error, God has spoken to me and referred to the scripture, Jesus confirmed his word with scripture, the Apostles did so, so, why should I fight him or try to debunk him? Tell me. Besides, I don't read all his posts, I only read his posts you quote or I'm mentioned in. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 12:39pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:Not necessary. does the bible encourage buiding of any temple toYes. is our body not the temple of God?,Yes, it is. so why should christians build and dedicate a temple.Because he approves of it. Does the bible command christians to burn incense when praying to God?Yes, the bible approves of it. Are the bolded the only thing u see in that post? What about the rest. [/quote] No Sir, Everything you listed are approved by the bible. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by NanaAmofah(m): 12:51pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:Bro pls read this Acts 7:48-49King James Version (KJV) 48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, 49 Heaven is my throne, and earth is my footstool: what house will ye build me? saith the Lord: or what is the place of my rest? King James Version (KJV) |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 1:11pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Firstly the Catholic Church-don't teach against it-matter of fact with evidence, the Church have broken 2 of the 10 commandments. Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make yourself an image in the form of anything in Heaven above, or on the Earth-nor beneath, nor in the waters below. Mary is a good example, you have images of her and Jesus in every church. When asked-many Catholic's claim these statues are only there to remind them who they are. Many kiss the feet of Mary that's made out of clay, that's is classed as idol worship. I love listening to you, especially the ones who are willing to lie denying the truth. . Sabbath Saturday is a day to remember-but of course the church had chanced that too, mixing the pagans beliefs, with Christians, so everyone can live happily ever after, together with joy we all now worship their Sun Day. Other then that, who really cares. dmandy: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 1:54pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:Mr you seem not to know what you are saying. Maybe most importantly you should ask yourself if the bible discourages building of any temple to God or burning of incense. In Luke 1:9, in the temple of which God was incense to be burned? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 1:59pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
NanaAmofah: The above does not prove that the bible condemns building a temple for God. St. Luke quoted Is 66 "Thus says the LORD, "Heaven is My throne and the earth is My footstool. Where then is a house you could build for Me? And where is a place that I may rest? "For My hand made all these things, Thus all these things came into being," declares the LORD. "But to this one I will look, To him who is humble and contrite of spirit, and who trembles at My word''. Jesus would not have said this if He disapproved of the temple. And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN." Which house? The temple? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:05pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:ok prove it, give biblical references were christians should build temples to God. I am waiting. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:07pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Ichiato:were does the bible encourage christians to build temples to God, show me biblical proof. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:17pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:funny thing is you accused someone else of blindness yet you couldn't see when I asked you that in Luke1:9, in the temple of which God was Zechariah chosen to burn incense? You're still here asking for bible passages. SMH |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:18pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
brocab:Okay, I believe you stand a better chance than even God himself to know what the catholic church approves and disapproves. Well, here is catechism of the Catholic Church I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me. You shall not make for yourself a graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them or serve them.3 Try vising a catholic church or go to http://www.vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s2c1a1.htm to know what the catholic church teaches. Exodus 20:4 "You shall not make yourself an image in the form of anything in Heaven above, or on the Earth-nor beneath, nor in the waters below.Image: a representation of the external form of a person or thing in art. Have you ever made an image of yourself? Are u in the earth? If you so, are you disobeying God? Be sincere. Mary is a good example, you have images of her and Jesus in every church. When asked-many Catholic's claim these statues are only there to remind them who they are. Many kiss the feet of Mary that's made out of clay, that's is classed as idol worship.Okay kissing an image is idol worship? Tell me more. What of kissing your wife? If you admire your sisters picture, are you classically worshipping idol? Sabbath Saturday is a day to remember-but of course the church had chanced that too, mixing the pagans beliefs, with Christians, so everyone can live happily ever after, together with joy we all now worship their Sun Day.Okay, its better to worship your Saturn Day. Think about 'Follow peace with all men' Other then that, who really cares.You do. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:22pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:Jesus would not have said this if He disapproved of the temple. And He said to them, "It is written, 'MY HOUSE SHALL BE CALLED A HOUSE OF PRAYER'; but you are making it a ROBBERS' DEN." Which house? The temple? Built by who? Human? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Rich4god(m): 2:40pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Abeg, Italo and co.... Make una share me the MB wey una dey use argue with this guys, cos e b like say una get am for excess.... |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:57pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Rich4god: lolx I am sure I am wasting my time with them as they have made up their mind not to see anything good in Catholic Church, but I am sure people are reading. An Igbo adage says the fowl does not scream because he expects his captures to leave him but that they may hear his voice who care to.. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 3:27pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:you are not making any sense with ur argument. Jesus himself said '' a time shall come and now is when the true worshipers of God will no longer go to the temple or the mountain to worship but those who want to do so will do it in spirit and in truth. Our body today is the temple of God the indwelling of the spirit. God does not live in temples built with hands. I have asked u to prove to me using the bible were christians are to build temples to God but u keep beating around the bush seek knowledge and stop been ignorant. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 3:43pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:okay. Jesus himself said '' a time shall come and now is when the true worshipers of God will no longer go to theTrue. Except you added temple. The word said Jerusalem and Mountain ...meaning every other place including Nigeria is as holy. Our body today is the temple of God the indwelling of the spirit.No doubt. God does not live in temples built with hands.God lives everywhere including in temples made and dedicated to him. (Jer23:24) I have asked u to prove to me using the bible were christians are to build temples to God but u keep beating around the bushI am not beating around the bush. I told you God approves of Temples else Jesus would not bother driving the traders out of the temple built by hand. seek knowledge and stop been ignorant.I will, I promise. |
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