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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by seiraries: 11:21pm On Dec 16, 2015
grin grin grin
thesoj:
Hahahah. Nice one. Excellent advice too.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by seiraries: 11:26pm On Dec 16, 2015
humbleosazee:
Please house I need advice, can my friend submit a 5 months statement of account as a self sponsor, please I need reply.
I think the minimum is 6 months. If s/he can get that, it's better.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by seiraries: 11:28pm On Dec 16, 2015
thesoj:
@seiraries: also, this your post on common denial reasons was excellent. Will add it to the page of links.
Btw, are you a bro or a sis?
Thank you sir. *blushes in french*
I'm a bro.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by loriaidah(f): 11:56pm On Dec 16, 2015
Pls I don't know what happen we no longer post our timeline so as to help us know the progress of our applications. Gurus in the house should help revive it pls its very important.thanks

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Blackkie: 12:19am On Dec 17, 2015
please house i need your candid knowledge here -
Am 40 this year, graduated year 2000.
I was planning to re-fire after my December 2014 visa rejection only for a Fanshawe College representative to inform me that i ''cannot'' be issued a visa.
Reason, the VOs were given instructions not to accent to applicants who left academic studies for a time frame of five [5] years and above. In my case its fifteen [15] years now. Could this be absolutely true?

Abeg gurus in the house lend your voice to this.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 12:29am On Dec 17, 2015
If you want timelines, then you should try to revive it. The gurus (whoever they are) can only do so much.
loriaidah:
Pls I don't know what happen we no longer post our timeline so as to help us know the progress of our applications. Gurus in the house should help revive it pls its very important.thanks
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by loriaidah(f): 12:48am On Dec 17, 2015
I don't know how to do it and I know everyone is busy but all am saying is that if it can be revived then it should.

And pls thesoj help with this question if you can.
If you finish school since 2005 and have been working since then how should you explain the study gap in the study permit questionniare? pls help.




thesoj:
If you want timelines, then you should try to revive it. The gurus (whoever they are) can only do so much.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 12:49am On Dec 17, 2015
The bolded can't be true. Several applicants on the thread got their TRVs even after having been out of school for five years or more. Every candidate is different and unique... VOs are not idiots so visas are likely adjudicated on a case-by-case basis as long as certain basic conditions are met. But given that you are 40-years old going for a PGD/Diploma, you are a complex applicant and the burden of proof is solely on you to prove to the VO that this is not just a desperate ploy to flee Nigeria. They will not grant visas to people who might stay back illegally in Canada after the end of an authorized stay. You will have to flat out think like a VO and flat out state why you want to pursue whatever program in spite of your age & education gap. You have to dispel any doubt that you know will likely arise in the mind of the VO.

Your work is cut out for you, although you should also be pragmatic and evaluate if you indeed can convince the VO (with proof). The ball is in your court.

Blackkie:
please house i need your candid knowledge here -
Am 40 this year, graduated year 2000.
I was planning to re-fire after my December 2014 visa rejection only for a Fanshawe College representative to inform me that i ''cannot'' be issued a visa.
Reason, the VOs were given instructions not to acce[p]t to applicants who left academic studies for a time frame of five [5] years and above. In my case its fifteen [15] years now. Could this be absolutely true?

Abeg gurus in the house lend your voice to this.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 1:06am On Dec 17, 2015
Just explain that you have been working and describe the work very briefly. Pretty much whatever explanation is both true and rationally jives with the rest of your application and documents. Think of your whole application as a story. Every sentence and detail in your application should reinforce the story of your application.
loriaidah:
I don't know how to do it and I know everyone is busy but all am saying is that if it can be revived then it should.

And pls thesoj help with this question if you can.
If you finish school since 2005 and have been working since then how should you explain the study gap in the study permit questionniare? pls help.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by loriaidah(f): 1:17am On Dec 17, 2015
Thanks once again.


thesoj:
Just explain that you have been working and describe the work very briefly. Pretty much whatever explanation is both true and rationally jives with the rest of your application and documents. Think of your whole application as a story. Every sentence and detail in your application should reinforce the story of your application.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Blackkie: 1:17am On Dec 17, 2015
[quote author=thesoj post=41074093]The bolded can't be true. Several applicants on the thread got their TRVs even after having been out of school for five years or more. Every candidate is different and unique... VOs are not idiots so visas are likely adjudicated on a case-by-case basis as long as certain basic conditions are met. But given that you are 40-years old going for a PGD/Diploma, you are a complex applicant and the burden of proof is solely on you to prove to the VO that this is not just a desperate ploy to flee Nigeria. They will not grant visas to people who might stay back illegally in Canada after the end of an authorized stay. You will have to flat out think like a VO and flat out state why you want to pursue whatever program in spite of your age & education gap. You have to dispel any doubt that you know will likely arise in the mind of the VO.

Your work is cut out for you, although you should also be pragmatic and evaluate if you indeed can convince the VO (with proof). The ball is in your court.

Thank you for your comments.
In fact before i meet the Fanshawe Rep. i got my GCMS file which came with lots of twists. The VO made mention that lots of documents that i submitted were not seen. I will forward it here shortly.
But if you are in my shoes, what will you be doing? Let me not say am running out of ideas.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 1:44am On Dec 17, 2015
Blackkie:
Thank you for your comments.
In fact before i meet the Fanshawe Rep. i got my GCMS file which came with lots of twists. The VO made mention that lots of documents that i submitted were not seen. I will forward it here shortly.
But if you are in my shoes, what will you be doing? Let me not say am running out of ideas.

If I were in your shoes (and given that I don't know anything about your application about from what you stated here), I would read at least one or two parts of the thread (e.g. Part 7 and/or Part 8 ). Seriously. Learning about other people's stories and strategies can be immensely beneficial. I personally read all of Parts 5-9 in order to maximize my siblings' TRV chances (tho I initially only read one part over two or three weeks and then over two months did the rest).

Also, if I were in your shoes I would brainstorm "what could I do in my next application that would make it easy for the VO to see all of my documents?". You might have to think about different ways to organize or tag the documents you submit e.g. referring to other documents in your SOP and any other submitted document that you wrote, including a Table of Contents that is clear and easy to follow, etc.

Also, if I were in your shoes I would brainstorm to ask myself "why do I want to study XYZ course in Canada?". I would temporarily ignore the fact that I may also like to enjoy life in Canada after I graduate but would think about what I would/could do in Nigeria with my Canada education. I would think very aspirationally about this and come up with a specific plan of action of what I want to do in Naija with that Canada education and how my experience and age give me a real-world strategic advantage to implement this (compared to younger people without experience on their side). I would also consider "Do I have enough strategic proof (that I can present to a VO) to buttress the real-world experience that I say would give me a advantage to implement my post-Canada-education plans?".

If I can come up with convincing responses to the above, then I would package my application accordingly -- making sure that my application is an easily digestible story that straightfowardly conveys all my convincing reasons -- and reapply. If not, then I won't waste my money.

But you will need to be pragmatic, objective, and stone-cold rational to pull this off. Doing all this will take you likely a month or two or more (depending on how introspective you are). You might have to write down your thoughts on these everyday, and then evaluate them all at a later date, and possibly in conjunction with one or two other stone-cold rational persons.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Blackkie: 1:51am On Dec 17, 2015
The GCMS file reads:-

38 years old, single, no children. No family ties to home country. Admission to graduate certificate in Global Business Management with Centennial College, obtained Diploma in Mass Communication in 2000, self employed since April 2010. No evidence of employment provided, Nature of business unclear. No evidence of income provided. No evidence of personal funds provided. Limited financial and professional ties to home country. Sponsored by sister. No relationship to sponsor provided. App has been out of studies for 14 years. Unclear why App wants to return to studies. Concerns with purpose of studies. Does not appear to fall in line with previous studies or employment.

Based on the evidence provided I am not satisfied App has sufficient ties to compel return to home country. Based on the evidence provided I am not satisfied App is a genuine student who would depart at the end of authourised stay. Refused.
......attn thesoj
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Aduke02(f): 1:56am On Dec 17, 2015
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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Blackkie: 2:03am On Dec 17, 2015
Its like you read my mind as it concerns the VO seeing all the documents.
I was pinned to the ground as the VO kept on referring to documents i included as being absent. All the documents he/she mentioned as being absent were included, even a detailed CV and letters of recommendations.
I believe I can do better now but I will need your good help.


thesoj:


If I were in your shoes (and given that I don't know anything about your application about from what you stated here), I would read at least one or two parts of the thread (e.g. Part 7 and/or Part 8 ). Seriously. Learning about other people's stories and strategies can be immensely beneficial. I personally read all of Parts 5-9 in order to maximize my siblings' TRV chances (tho I initially only read one part over two or three weeks and then over two months did the rest).

Also, if I were in your shoes I would brainstorm "what could I do in my next application that would make it easy for the VO to see all of my documents?". You might have to think about different ways to organize or tag the documents you submit e.g. referring to other documents in your SOP and any other submitted document that you wrote, including a Table of Contents that is clear and easy to follow, etc.

Also, if I were in your shoes I would brainstorm to ask myself "why do I want to study XYZ course in Canada?". I would temporarily ignore the fact that I may also like to enjoy life in Canada after I graduate but would think about what I would/could do in Nigeria with my Canada education. I would think very aspirationally about this and come up with a specific plan of action of what I want to do in Naija with that Canada education and how my experience and age give me a real-world strategic advantage to implement this (compared to younger people without experience on their side). I would also consider "Do I have enough strategic proof (that I can present to a VO) to buttress the real-world experience that I say would give me a advantage to implement my post-Canada-education plans?".

If I can come up with convincing responses to the above, then I would package my application accordingly -- making sure that my application is an easily digestible story that straightfowardly conveys all my convincing reasons -- and reapply. If not, then I won't waste my money.

But you will need to be pragmatic, objective, and stone-cold rational to pull this off. Doing all this will take you likely a month or two or more (depending on how introspective you are). You might have to write down your thoughts on these everyday, and then evaluate them all at a later date, and possibly in conjunction with one or two other stone-cold rational persons.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 2:17am On Dec 17, 2015
You have your work cut out for you. If it helps, my previous post may serve as a guide. Also, I recommend you read posts by individuals such as @Team12 @tnuola @HayqinsbFX @montrealer @Onyeoma3 @ayooluwatoni @thesoj... etc. Critically reading Parts 7 and/or Part 8 should provide you with most of the insights you need though. Cheers.
Blackkie:
Its like you read my mind as it concerns the VO seeing all the documents.
I was pinned to the ground as the VO kept on referring to documents i included as being absent. All the documents he/she mentioned as being absent were included, even a detailed CV and letters of recommendations.
I believe I can do better now but I will need your good help.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by siegfried99(m): 2:19am On Dec 17, 2015
@thesoj

Please I would like to know if this won't raise a red flag?

A computer science HND graduate going for PGD human resources management?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 2:38am On Dec 17, 2015
Read this post by seiraries: https://www.nairaland.com/2557850/travelling-canada-part-9/198#41016878
The short answer is yes, it will raise a red flag. The long answer is that the red flag may not lead to a delay if and only if you can convince the VO why.
siegfried99:
@thesoj
Please I would like to know if this won't raise a red flag?
A computer science HND graduate going for PGD human resources management?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by siegfried99(m): 2:44am On Dec 17, 2015
thesoj:
Read this post by seiraries: https://www.nairaland.com/2557850/travelling-canada-part-9/198#41016878
The short answer is yes, it will raise a red flag. The long answer is that the red flag may not lead to a delay if and only if you can convince the VO why.

Thanks
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by Blackkie: 2:56am On Dec 17, 2015
Thanks a lot.
Kindly respond any time I call your attention please.

thesoj:
You have your work cut out for you. If it helps, my previous post may serve as a guide. Also, I recommend you read posts by individuals such as @Team12 @tnuola @HayqinsbFX @montrealer @Onyeoma3 @ayooluwatoni @thesoj... etc. Critically reading Parts 7 and/or Part 8 should provide you with most of the insights you need though. Cheers.
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by EOJ13: 3:21am On Dec 17, 2015
Has anyone experience this before?
EOJ13:
Just got a mail that my application has been updated but when I logged into mycic there was nothin there. I have done medicals and it was updated passed on Dec 4th.
Please what is happening??

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by akanni(m): 4:52am On Dec 17, 2015
thesoj, you are simply amazing, analysis on point!!!!
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:01am On Dec 17, 2015
You are welcome. I can't guarantee that I'll respond especially if your question has already been answered within the last 50-100 pages. You will need to read the thread closely particularly as a complex applicant. But even if I would answer your question when I see it, don't bank on my being online when you ask your question.
Blackkie:
Thanks a lot.
Kindly respond any time I call your attention please.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:01am On Dec 17, 2015
Thank you.
akanni:
thesoj, you are simply amazing, analysis on point!!!!
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by akanni(m): 5:09am On Dec 17, 2015
thesoj:
Thank you.

You done with school yet?Which province you dey?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:22am On Dec 17, 2015
Been done with school for a bit. I live in the country just south of the Canadian border lol. I found this thread a few months ago while trying to help two siblings get their TRV... they both got it and will be starting school in Ontario this winter. Thx for asking. I see you are in Alberta.
akanni:
You done with school yet?Which province you dey?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by akanni(m): 5:26am On Dec 17, 2015
thesoj:
Been done with school for a bit. I live in the country just south of the Canadian border lol. I found this thread a few months ago while trying to help two siblings get their TRV... they both got it and will be starting school in Ontario this winter. Thx for asking. I see you are in Alberta.

You are our rich and highly indebted neighbour,lol, i heard things are looking up over there, economy is our of recession and unemployment at an all time low (story).
Yes o, still in school in one cranny in Alberta, you seem so learned in this Canada runz ni, i just wanted to know if you were in here.
Weldone bro!
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by thesoj: 5:32am On Dec 17, 2015
Lolz yep @ "highly indebted". Thankfully our economy is going so well now, and the USD is now very strong. The USD to CAD rate makes me a bit happy lol.

But then the idea that some of these political candidates (i.e. Trump, Ted Cruz,...) have a noticeable number of supporters is scary for the economy and our world. Thankfully, the chance of any of these near-sociopathic candidates winning is low.

akanni:


You are our rich and highly indebted neighbour,lol, i heard things are looking up over there, economy is our of recession and unemployment at an all time low (story).
Yes o, still in school in one cranny in Alberta, you seem so learned in this Canada runz ni, i just wanted to know if you were in here.
Weldone bro!
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by mbasam: 5:51am On Dec 17, 2015
emifemimi:
Anyone going to U of S for winter term and in need of accommodation, pls pm me
pls send me a p.m, yes u of s.

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Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by favour2015(f): 6:04am On Dec 17, 2015
Congrats. When are u resuming?
Re: Travelling To Canada Part 9 by akanni(m): 6:05am On Dec 17, 2015
thesoj:
Lolz yep @ "highly indebted". Thankfully our economy is going so well now, and the USD is now very strong. The USD to CAD rate makes me a bit happy lol.

But then the idea that some of these political candidates (i.e. Trump, Ted Cruz,...) have a noticeable number of supporters is scary for the economy and our world. Thankfully, the chance of any of these near-sociopathic candidates winning is low.


I just hope they won't make it, especially Trump who is so vocal!!

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