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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 5:44pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
dmandy:do not quote me for the sake of it, be honest and try to make some sense. Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet. The above scripture proves u a lier and imposter. U continue replying me with meaningless words. U said God approves of temples for christians, why have u refused to give biblical backing? The temple which christ chased the traders off,was it built by christians, or for christians? And why was the temple veil torn in two when christ died. Pls dont reply me for the sake of it, try to make a little sense because u catholics know nothing about the bible. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 5:56pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Ichiato:it seems honesty is alien to catholics; was zachariah not a prophet of the old covenant? Was zachariah a christian? Was that same temple not rendered usless after the death of christ which was why the romans destroyed it in 70.AD. do christians still worship in the same temple today?: why do u catholis lack common sense. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 6:33pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:I am honest. Read my response to you again. Acts 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in templesLol @imposter. Was It me that added 'temple' to a bible passage. Well Acts 7:48 did not condemn building temples. In that passage St. Luke quoted Is. 66. continue replying me with meaningless words.Okay. U said God approves of temples for christians, why have u refused to give biblical backing?I did. Why would Jesus bother driving the people away from the temple if does not approve of temple? The temple which christ chased the traders off,was it built by christians, or for christians?But Jesus approved of it. And why was the temple veil torn in two when christ died.it was the veil that was torn not the temple collapsed. Pls dont reply me for the sake of it, try to make a little sense because u catholics know nothing about the bible.You know everything about the bible. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 6:47pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:This is how we know liars. Looking for half truths to justify your baseless doctrines. What has Zechariah been a priest(not a prophet) of the old testament have to do with anything? Asking if was a christain is just a lame attempt at durging issues with irrelevancies. Zechariah worshipped the same God we (Christians)now worship. A God we all agree never changes. Who says that temple and so many other temple was rendered useless after the death of Christ? You made mention of the fact that our body is now the temple of God without realizing that the same way our body became the dwelling place of God (temple) churches, homes and infact any other buildings can become a temple. In fact whatever houses our body is also the temple of God. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 9:34pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
Firstly" This isn't the gospel I would be preaching to anybody-I wouldn't allow myself to show the paganism the Church follows. Secondly" No' I don't make any images of myself nor do I make any images to represent Christ in my home. Christ lives in me, as I live in Him. My mind, my soul, and my everyday living, I live for Christ. And how does one understand the evidence of Christ living in us all-by the word of God that's preached throughout the nations. It seems you are having trouble understanding between these two, first>kissing a statue made of clay-isn't the same of kissing your wife-Jesus said love your wife's, wife's love your husbands. Your quote shows, your love for the image is equal to a human being. Without any thought you had compared them both alike. Interesting. First God is Love, God's image isn't clay, we are made in His image, "LOVE is warm, love is kind, love is God. Having your sisters picture or the rest of the families pictures-isn't idolizing-idolizing Mary either inside the Church-kissing her feet-bowing down and praying to her in worship, is idolizing. Looking at photo's of family members, has nothing to do with bowing down, praying, or worship. Plus only a pervert would Idolize their sisters picture? Ask this question to the Vatican about their hidden secrets. You are asking me to visit the Catholic Church,well I have, I had also made away to visit the Vatican on the net, and this is what I had found the Vatican worships after Lucifer. And we all know who Lucifer is-the morning star, the angel of light. GOD-GOD COME OUT WHERE EVER YOU ARE? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcpVrtv2t-M dmandy: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 10:36pm On Dec 16, 2015 |
No the Catholic Church had proven to the world what faith they believe, and the time is ticking at are fast rate, soon everyone will see Lucifer's glory raise above the Vatican. Turn from your evil ways-and come follow after Christ-fully. dmandy: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 3:25am On Dec 17, 2015 |
brocab: okay. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by brocab: 3:29am On Dec 17, 2015 |
At least we agree with that. dmandy: |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 4:08am On Dec 17, 2015 |
brocab:Exactly why discussing with u is waste of my precious time but I won't stop because a lot of people are reading who value the truth. You lie. nor do I make any images to represent Christ in home.But u make to represent him in your mind. Image is image whether in your head, on the screen, in the mirror, on paper or 3D. It is image. Any image starts from the head I hope you know? Christ lives in me, as I live in Him. My mind, my soul, and my my everyday living, I live for Christ.Praise God for that. And how does one understand the evidence of Christ living in us all-by the word of God that's preached throughout the nations.By their fruits not by their words. It seems you are having trouble understanding between these two, first>kissing a statue made of clay-isn't the same of kissing your wife-Jesus said love your wife's, wife's love your husbands.Jesus also added love your wife and hate her picture. An athlete who kissed her golden medal out of admiration must be on high way to hell. Your quote shows, your love for the image is equal to a human being. Without any thought you had compared them both alike. Interesting.Of course I compared them both, but did not equate them. The image of a person is an extension of him/her. I have never set my eyes on my amiable president who happens to be +1 today, but I know him through his image on my tv screen and pages of newspapers. Understand that. First God is Love, God's image isn't clay, we are made in His image, "LOVE is warm, love is kind, love is God.That's actually third. You don't say first, second and first again. calm down. With what did God make his image in Genesis? Gold? But having Mary's is. Is she not someones family? -idolizing Mary either inside the Church-kissing her feet-bowing down and praying to her in worship, is idolizing.idolizing ur pastor inside the church, bowing down and praying to him isn't. Looking at photo's of family members, has nothing to do with bowing down, praying, or worship.except if the photo is that of Mary. Plus only a pervert would Idolize their sisters picture? Ask this question to the Vatican about their hidden secrets.But u said having the picture in the first place is idolatry. You also said you don't have pictures of yourself as that would amount to idolatry. You are asking me to visit the Catholic Church,well I have,Thank God. I had also made away to visit the Vatican on the net,Glory to Jesus. and this is what I had found the Vatican worships after Lucifer.okay, people find out what they like. Some believed that Jesus had evil spirit (Mark 3:30) And we all know who Lucifer is-the morning star, the angel of light.And u know Lucifer is the angel of light. hmmmm.
hahahahaha!!! God should come of whereever HE is? And go and stay where you want HIM to be? Receive your healing in Jesus' Name! Amen The gates of hell shall not prevail against it. I AM IN CHRIST AND CHRIST IN GOD. U see, coming out is a long thing. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 4:19am On Dec 17, 2015 |
brocab: People agree what makes them feel good. 1. some agree that Jesus was only an angel 2. some agree that there is no God 3. some agree that the bible is fiction 4. some agree that medications is sinful 5. to some taking pictures is idolatry 6. to others, kanu kissing golden cup in Atlanta is idolatry. etc I have no right to argue what you agree or not... social ethics demands that I respect that. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 7:49am On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo:Merry-go-round you say?? Continue. Please yourself. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 8:35am On Dec 17, 2015 |
The question about Images and Rosary is one every Catholic has every reason to ask. Some have been bold enough to ask. All who had bothered to ask, received different answers and acted upon it. However, the answers they got was dependent on who they asked. One of the most inspiring books I have ever read The Richest Man in Babylon teaches that if you want to know about brick-making, you don't go to a tailor, but to a brick-maker. St James tells us that for those who lack wisdom, there is only ONE right person to ask 'God'(Jams 1:5). You don't go to ask a fool about wisdom(Prov 23:9). To those who asked brocab and friends about Images and rosary, the following answers were given * Making any image (including pictures, house plans, symbols, any form of arts and crafts) is sin. * Kissing your awards (cups, medals, pictures) in admiration is sin * building a temple (church buildings and by extension houses) is a sin. For those that asked olaadegbu and group, they were told that images on the tv screen (which they called devil's box) is sin as well talk less of physical one. * they say saying 'hail mary' and 'the lords prayer' is sinful. I do not write for these ones who asked these men, they must have made their choice to leave the church. Right or wrong, only God can tell. Some others asked italo and friends and were told that 'all the prayers of the rosary are contained in the holy bible', They were also told that Ex. 20 did not condemn images but on the contrary that God made his own image (Gen 1:26) and encouraged his people to make images (Numb 21, Ex 25, 1Kngs 9, Rev 1:11, habk 2:2 etc). However, God is against making images and worshipping it as God (Ex 32:4) since He did not show himself in any form when He spoke in the mist of fire (Deut 4:14/15). They were also told that God was letter going to show himself in form of a MAN Jesus Christ(Phil 2:. I do not write for these ones who received these answers for they have known the truth and remained in their faith. I however, write for those who are afraid to ask questions for fear of asking the wrong people, and for what people might say. To these ones I say don not live in ignorance, if you don't know 'ASK'. Be not afraid to ask questions concerning your faith, be like the Berean Jews (Acts 17:11). - When they tell you that you will go to hell because you are a catholic, tell them that you won't go heaven or to hell because you are a catholic but based on your deeds.(rom 2:16) - when they say you say 'hail Mary' tell them that God first said it through angel Gabriel. - when they say Mary is a demon, tell them that if it pleased God to use her there is no need questioning her. - When they say you have a demon because they can't find the word 'rosary' in the bible smile and say they even said John the Baptist had a demon because they couldn't find what he was saying in the scriptures. -When ask whether God asked you to honor Mary, say Yes! The Holy Spirit says all ages including yours shall call her blessed. -When they ask you how Mary is your mother, remind them that you are a beloved disciple. (John 19:26) -Rejoice and be glad not just because you are a catholic but also because your name have been written in the book of life. All the dirt they pour on you because of your faith will do you no harm (Its not what goes into a man that destroys him, but what comes out). Remember, not one of the many garbage thrown at General Buhari before the elections stopped him from being president Buhari today. (I know, I just had to find a way to chip that in). Let us not forget to pray for him and the country today as he celebrates his birthday. Today also, another great man celebrates his birthday, Pope Francis I. Let us remember him in our prayers as we enter the last week of advent today in anticipation of the coming of Our Savior in Christmas!!! God bless You, All. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 9:59am On Dec 17, 2015 |
All anti-Catholics are hypocrites. 3 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 10:44am On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo: adsonstone: ...and yes, that's the hypocrisy I speak of! when you, Italo, run away from this thread and pretend you did not see the question in my post which I have now made bold (incase you wanna deny), yet, you keep accusing another fellow of exactly the same thing you're guilty of. . . . Anyway, I'm not surprised, it is your nature, by default. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 11:42am On Dec 17, 2015 |
adsonstone: You wanted me to keep answering you when it was you who first started dodging my questions with all kinds of excuses? Do you want me to repost your excuses, so we know the hypocrite that first started running? Or should I save you the embarrassment? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:15pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
Ichiato:i asked a question u are still yet to answer. Is zachariah a christian?, was the temple built by christians or for christians?, why did the temple veil rent in two when christ died?. If u dishonesty will not let u answer them, stop replying me with meaningless things such as this ur every house is a temple nonsense. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:17pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
dmandy:show me were christ approved temples for christians otherwise stop replying. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 12:17pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo: As usual, clutching at straws! It is common among catholics who will always 'point fingers' to non catholics even when the non catholic is of the right opinion. Here are the questions again, for the third time; 1. Where did brocab claim that "when God speaks to an individual, his word to the individual is not credible enough?" 2. Why should I fight him or try to debunk him for saying that God confirms his word to an individual withe scriptures? Is it untrue? 3. If you believe his claim is an error...as you claim, debunk it with reasonable proofs... Waiting. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 12:29pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
adsonstone:You want me to keep answering you when it was you who first started dodging my questions with all kinds of excuses? Do you want me to repost my questions and your evasive excuses, so we know the hypocrite that first started running? Or should I save you the embarrassment? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 12:32pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY: It's in the verse where Christ approved Church weddings, Church funerals, 10% tithe and stupidity like yours for Christians. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 12:34pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo:this blind man were did come from? Stop showing me ur stupidity am tired of it. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 12:40pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo: I'm not surprised you're dodging. I have answered ALL your questions here www.nairaland.com/1087122/why-catholics-pray-rosary-bow/16#41039572, no evasion. That you tagged it a merry-go-round does not mean I did not sincerely answer them. ...meanwhile, here are my questions again, for the fourth time; 1. Where did brocab claim that "when God speaks to an individual, his word to the individual is not credible enough?" 2. Why should I fight him or try to debunk him for saying that God confirms his word to an individual withe scriptures? Is it untrue? 3. If you believe his claim is an error...as you claim, debunk it with reasonable proofs... Simple questions! ..or are you scared that answering them sincerely will further expose your false allegations and gross hypocrisy? |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 2:02pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
adsonstone: 1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it? 2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions. 3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions. 4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again. All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions. What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not? What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not?
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Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 2:33pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo: I won't be offended at any trick you employ in dodging my simple questions. Of course, you wouldn't see the answers and responses I posted simply because you're blinded by hate..maybe. I will be very straightforward with you, I have no time for your continuous and cunny dodging of my questions. Kindly repost ALL the questions you have asked me...both the ones I have answered and the ones you claim I dodged (pls post separately, the one(s) I answered (with my answers) on top and the rest should follow). We'll know who the hypocrite is. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:41pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY: And when he was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching, and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority? Christians are expected to be Christ-like? No? The should do like Christ as in come into the temple, teach in the temple? Whatever, scrap that. Maybe, it shouldn't be. Okay. Can I ask you if Jesus approved building houses. I am thinking my body is the temple of Christ, and as such He resides in me. If I ever dwell in a house made by hand, does it mean ____? Scrap that, I was just thinking on keyboard. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by EMILO2STAY(m): 2:48pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
dmandy:u are not a sane human beign no wonder u are a catholic. I said show me bible verse were building of temples is approved for christians, but u keep talking nonsense pls stop quoting me. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 2:52pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
adsonstone: Lol...you're telling me to post the questions, while quoting and dodging the questions. italo: Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted. If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale). |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by Nobody: 2:59pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
EMILO2STAY:Okay. I said show me bible verse were building of temples is approved for christians, but u keep talking nonsense pls stop quoting me.That was a bible passage I posted here (matt 21:23): "And when he (Jesus) was come into the temple, the chief priests and the elders of the people came unto him as he was teaching (in the temple buit of course by men), and said, By what authority doest thou these things? and who gave thee this authority?"But it's okay by me if you think Bible is nonsense. Even atheist believe the same thing. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 3:14pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
@adsonstone Lol...you're telling me to post the questions, while quoting and dodging the questions. italo: 1. You claim to have answered all my questions. Do you remember the question in the 1st pic? If so, can you show where you answered it? 2. The 2nd picture is you dodging my other questions. 3. The third picture is you continuing to dodge them, even affirming that you skipped them...and then answering only one of about four questions. 4. The fourth picture is you pretending as if you hadn't been dodging my questions and me posting the questions again. All these happened before you finally answered them after I had posted them 3 times...Yet you claim I'm a hypocrite for not answering your questions. What is it when you first choose how many times to ignore my questions but you get demonize me when I ignore you? Hypocrisy or not? What is it when you claim that you've answered all my questions but you haven't? Lie or not? Then answer the question in the 1st pic in the post you quoted. If you don't mind a bonus: what is the summary of your contribution to this thread again? I honestly don't get it? I know the others are honest in declaring that they are condemning the Rosary (even though they can't muster good rationale). |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by italo: 3:16pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
@adsonstone I have deliberately posted the questions three times to meet your requirement for answering me. Hope to get clear, honest answer. Amen. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 3:25pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo: Simple and polite request, "Kindly repost your questions, separate them so I can see the ones you claim I've not answered" You couldn't, simply because there are no outstanding questions...it's part of the dubious you anyway. As for this one; italo: Is it wrong and hypocritical for me to say 'Jesus never mentioned Bible too' to someone who said the above and also said Jesus didn't approve the Rosary? First, you have to show where the guy declared that "Jesus didn't approve the rosary"...let's know if he actually said it or if it is another false allegation...as usual. My purpose on this thread was simply to point out the dangerous lie you were spewing and defending egotistically on the thread...but hitherto, you have refused to admit it was a lie...or even admit that it was said in ignorance. |
Re: Why Do Catholics Pray With The Rosary, And Bow To Mary's Statue? by adsonstone: 3:30pm On Dec 17, 2015 |
italo: my questions, my questions, my questions!!! Post them (in text) and show the ones I've answered apart from the ones I've not, you can't. ...or are those questions you posted up? ...abi has it gotten to this level that you cannot even recognize a question? |
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