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vooks:
Is that why you have had countless instructions on condoms from Vatican, have had different theories on whether Mary died or went to heaven like Elijah, and presently you are busy revising your gay manual?


You mean inviting demons(Queen of Heaven) to possess me? No thanks

Great, when last did Chrysostom chat you up? What did he tell you

When I said you people cannever agree on anything you thought it was a joke.

There are no countless instructions about the use of condoms from the Church. The instruction is and have always been that 'the use of condoms and indeed any form of contraceptives' for birth control is condemnable. I don't know who gave you the countless instructions if not your pastror and pastor (mrs) inc. limited.

The only theory is that Mary died and was assumed into heaven. There is no contrary teaching.

If you want to invite demon to possess you that's your business, you are on your own.

The gay manual is a sole property of you protestants. The Catholic teaching is and always has been that marriage is between Man and Woman.

Are you talking about St. John Chrysostom? No, he need not chat me up, but I believe he is in the presence of God worshiping Him and interceding for Christians.

vooks:
Are you possessed by the Virgin?

If you are talking about that virgin whom God chose to be the mother of the savior of the world, and if you mean that virgin whom God prophesied through the mouth of his Prophet that will bring forth the King of Kings, if also you mean the virgin whom the word of God said my generation should call blessed. If by any chance the virgin you talk about is the one to whom God said called full of Grace and to whom He said 'among all women, you are most blessed' Then I am possessed by this virgin.

vooks:
He hates the putrid smell of satanism and paganism not Mary. As children of God, we abhor what He abhors. Mary is both dead and buried and probably in heaven, nobody knows that for sure.

Who was leading men to Christ AFTER Pentecost and BEFORE Mary died/was 'assumed'?

You can speak for yourself on that one. I also hate not just the putrid smell but the entirety of Satanism and paganism.

I hate what God hates and what God hates is sin not Mary.

You think Nobody knows? God knows and has revealed it to St. John the Apostle and every other person who care to ask Him 'Mary is heaven'.

If indeed you are a Christian, then you are also called to lead people from all ends of the earth to Christ.

Ichiato:
If Christians are so different from the people of old testament you can as well tear off your old testament books. You failed to answer any of my questions and now you just quote me with a post you riddled with insults. I will take that as an hint that you have run out of ideas. Bye

stop giving urself orgasm over this your " answer my question " mantra, ur lack of comprehension has blinded not to see i have done that already in my previous posts. U on the other hand has failed woefully in proving ur pagan practice using the bible. U are the one who have run out of ideas. U think i am like one of u catholics who behave like zombies unable to think for themselves but swallow any doctrine thrown at them without consulting the bible.

dmandy:
You can speak for yourself on that one. I also hate not just the putrid smell but the entirety of Satanism and paganism.

I hate what God hates and what God hates is sin not Mary.

You think Nobody knows? God knows and has revealed it to St. John the Apostle and every other person who care to ask Him 'Mary is heaven'.

If indeed you are a Christian, then you are also called to lead people from all ends of the earth to Christ.

Show me where John says Mary is in heaven.

Thanks

vooks:
Why would God, Wonderful, Counsellor receive counsel from a human?

Paganism and satanism knows no bounds

I thank God that He has been able to open your eyes to accept the other attributes of a queen mother which the Virgin mother of Jesus possess. The good God who had started this good work in you will surely bring it to perfection through the Name of Jesus Christ our lord and Savior. Amen.

You have problem with The King receiving some form of counsel from the queen Mother, I will do my best to explain that to you and pray the Holy Spirit completes the work of explanation.

To counsel may mean to give advice or to recommend a course of action, If you go by the later definition, you will see that this role was perfectly played by the virgin queen at the wedding at Cana. When the wine was finished, the loving mother walked to Her King and suggested he do something about it knowing that Her King is able and capable. The one who commanded you and I to honor our parents did not disobey his own command, he did not throw the counsel (suggestion) of his mother to the dust.The Virgin mother also went to advice the disciples "do whatever He tells you." The best counsel of all times!!!

vooks:
What book of the bible do you read of Apollos, Barnabas, Matthew's death?

I learnt from someone I respect so much that it is childish to ignore questions but foolish to answer questions with question. Next, time when you are asked a question to which you don't know the answer, instead of throwing tantrums, simply say I don't know. It's more honorable.

For your question, the death of Apollos, Barnabas and Matthew were not recorded in the bible. At least no where that I know of.

dmandy:
I thank God that He has been able to open your eyes to accept the other attributes of a queen mother which the Virgin mother of Jesus possess. The good God who had started this good work in you will surely bring it to perfection through the Name of Jesus Christ our lord and Savior. Amen.

You have problem with The King receiving some form of counsel from the queen Mother, I will do my best to explain that to you and pray the Holy Spirit completes the work of explanation.

To counsel may mean to give advice or to recommend a course of action, If you go by the later definition, you will see that this role was perfectly played by the virgin queen at the wedding at Cana. When the wine was finished, the loving mother walked to Her King and suggested he do something about it knowing that Her King is able and capable. The one who commanded you and I to honor our parents did not disobey his own command, he did not throw the counsel (suggestion) of his mother to the dust.The Virgin mother also went to advice the disciples "do whatever He tells you." The best counsel of all times!!!

This is very intelligent of you.
Mary also fed Jesus Christ so she is still feeding him in heaven and attending wedding bashes in heaven and Jesus is still turning water into wine up there, right?

That counsel is the best and this is why I don't pray to demons to pray for me, I go straight to Jesus Christ!

Imagine those men going back to Mary to ask her to ask Jesus what to do AFTER this counsel!

Catholicism Satanism can't help but blow away its feet

vooks:
Show me where John says Mary is in heaven.

Thanks

Try reading the book of Revelations Chapter 12. Read with open mind and cross reference with the prophecy of Isaiah and that of Prophet Micah in chapter 5

If you are not convinced, try asking God where Mary is and don't assume that nobody knows again. You hear?

Now, Go and sin no more.

Happy Xmas.

dmandy:
I learnt from someone I respect so much that it is childish to ignore questions but foolish to answer questions with question. Next, time when you are asked a question to which you don't know the answer, instead of throwing tantrums, simply say I don't know. It's more honorable.

For your question, the death of Apollos, Barnabas and Matthew were not recorded in the bible. At least no where that I know of.

Does the fact that they are not recorded give me license to hallucinate about them being assumed to heaven?

dmandy:
Try reading the book of Revelations Chapter 12. Read with open mind and cross reference with the prophecy of Isaiah and that of Prophet Micah in chapter 5

If you are not convinced, try asking God where Mary is and don't assume that nobody knows again. You hear?

Now, Go and sin no more.

Happy Xmas.

I can recite Revelation backwards.
Where is Mary?

vooks:
This is very intelligent of you.
Mary also fed Jesus Christ so she is still feeding him in heaven and attending wedding bashes in heaven and Jesus is still turning water into wine up there, right?

That counsel is the best and this is why I don't pray to demons to pray for me, I go straight to Jesus Christ!

Imagine those men going back to Mary to ask her to ask Jesus what to do AFTER this counsel!

Catholicism Satanism can't help but blow away its feet

Thank you for the compliments.

At least, I have seen some protestant that agreed that Mary fed Jesus, you colleagues will say Mary was only a surrogate mother and never did anything after Jesus was born. God bless you for this.

The truth is hitting you gradually, and I pray the Lord will help you let go of pride and accept the truth wholly.

Lolx, you actually reason like this? No, that's poo. You are wiser than that. Jesus and His dear mother will never stop attending any events to which they are invited. Just send them the IV and watch them show. Oh! what a glorious and blissful event you will have.

Now, that you have agreed that Mary actually offered some form of counsel to Jesus. I will go on and treat your next point of confusion with the divine help of the holy spirit.

Nobody stops you from going straight to Jesus. Asking the Mother of Jesus to help you talk to his son is no different from asking your pastor or senior prophet or GO to help you talk to Jesus. The only different is that asking Mary makes it more effective if you remember that Mary is in heaven with Jesus and He who listened to her even when 'his time is not yet come' will listen to her now that his time is here.

Well, if you ever imagine that what matters is what Jesus asked them to do, not whom he sent to tell them. The same way He has sent me to declare His good news to you. 'Will the disciples refuse to do what Jesus said because He told somebody to tell them?

Think about it.

vooks:
Does the fact that they are not recorded give me license to hallucinate about them being assumed to heaven?

I guess you have the taken your corrections.

Now, don't hallucinate ask Jesus to reveal to you where His mother is. He said 'ask and you shall receive'. Just obey, ask. It costs you nothing, you don't need to sow a seed or pay tithe, just ask.

The wise men from the east (yes east) found Jesus with His Mother, Wise men of Today still find Jesus with his mother. Are you a wise man?

God bless you

vooks:
I can recite Revelation backwards.
Where is Mary?

That is the problem.

Stop reading the bible backwards. Try reading forward with open mind. God will help you in Jesus Name. Amen.

Now mention me when you stop reading the bible backwards and upside-down.

dmandy:
That is the problem.

Stop reading the bible backwards. Try reading forward with open mind. God will help you in Jesus Name. Amen.

Now mention me when you stop reading the bible backwards and upside-down.

It's a figure of speech, duh, what part of Nigeria do you hail from?

dmandy:
I guess you have the taken your corrections.

Now, don't hallucinate ask Jesus to reveal to you where His mother is. He said 'ask and you shall receive'. Just obey, ask. It costs you nothing, you don't need to sow a seed or pay tithe, just ask.

The wise men from the east (yes east) found Jesus with His Mother, Wise men of Today still find Jesus with his mother. Are you a wise man?

God bless you

He told me Catholicism is Satanism and Paganism disguised as Christianity.

vooks:
It's a figure of speech, duh, what part of Nigeria do you hail from?

Indeed, it may be a figure of speech. But I don't think it is a bad advise that you should learn to read forwards instead of backwards.

BTW, I am from Imo State.

vooks:
He told me Catholicism is Satanism and Paganism disguised as Christianity.

Good for you.

dmandy:
Thank you for the compliments.

At least, I have seen some protestant that agreed that Mary fed Jesus, you colleagues will say Mary was only a surrogate mother and never did anything after Jesus was born. God bless you for this.

I don't know the exact argument you came across, don't digress

The truth is hitting you gradually, and I pray the Lord will help you let go of pride and accept the truth wholly.

Religion is dangerous; it invented Mary's sinlessness and perpetual virginity while dismissing the inspired scriptures. May religious scales fall off your eyes as I perceive they are. With God nothing is impossible

Lolx, you actually reason like this? No, that's poo. You are wiser than that. Jesus and His dear mother will never stop attending any events to which they are invited. Just send them the IV and watch them show. Oh! what a glorious and blissful event you will have.

Satanism

Now, that you have agreed that Mary actually offered some form of counsel to Jesus. I will go on and treat your next point of confusion with the divine help of the holy spirit.

What counsel did Mary offer Christ? When and where?
Religion redefines terms to suit them. Lucifer is sure as hell creative

Nobody stops you from going straight to Jesus. Asking the Mother of Jesus to help you talk to his son is no different from asking your pastor or senior prophet or GO to help you talk to Jesus. The only different is that asking Mary makes it more effective if you remember that Mary is in heaven with Jesus and He who listened to her even when 'his time is not yet come' will listen to her now that his time is here.

Yeah right, necromancy is sin and God hates it. And satanists sure do love what God hates

Well, if you ever imagine that what matters is what Jesus asked them to do, not whom he sent to tell them. The same way He has sent me to declare His good news to you. 'Will the disciples refuse to do what Jesus said because He told somebody to tell them?

Think about it.

Think hard about this. You deify Mary, and with that all your prayers are idolatry. God would have to apologize to Caananites for driving them out and entertaining modern pagans and necromancers

dmandy:
Indeed, it may be a figure of speech. But I don't think it is a bad advise that you should learn to read forwards instead of backwards.

BTW, I am from Imo State.

Where is Mary in Revelation 12?

vooks:
I don't know the exact argument you came across, don't digress


Religion is dangerous; it invented Mary's sinlessness and perpetual virginity while dismissing the inspired scriptures. May religious scales fall off your eyes as I perceive they are. With God nothing is impossible


Satanism


What counsel did Mary offer Christ? When and where?
Religion redefines terms to suit them. Lucifer is sure as hell creative


Yeah right, necromancy is sin and God hates it. And satanists sure do love what God hates



Think hard about this. You deify Mary, and with that all your prayers are idolatry. God would have to apologize to Caananites for driving them out and entertaining modern pagans and necromancers

Someone I respect so much told me that it is not very proper to break people's write up and I have stopped doing that ever since. But, it doesn't matter, I will respond to you. You are my man. I see the eagerness in you, You really want to learn.

I just thanked you for the compliments, it wasn't difficult to accept now. 'You are welcome' is just 15 characters. Anyways thank you again.

I did not digress, I am still within the context of our discourse. I only wanted to show you that I agreed with your idea that Mary fed Jesus unlike most protestants I know.

No, religion is not dangerous, it's people who don't understand religion that are dangerous. Look up James 1:27 to see what religion is. No religion invented Mary, try reading the bible, it helps. God chose Mary. I only believe what the scripture says and the scripture says Mary is full of grace. I know you don't like reading that part of the bible, but it is well. Embrace true religion my brother.

Mary offered a counsel (recommended a course of action) to Jesus at the wedding at Cana. I said it before and I will say it again. I did not redefine any term, you can get a dictionary, look up the meaning of the verb 'counsel'.

Oh yes, necromancy is sin and God hates it. I hate it, the church hates it and every true lover of God should.

You think I deify Mary, No. I am only obeying the commandment of God. " All generations will call her blessed" and "Love your Father and your Mother". God need not apologize to anybody for punishing idolaters but will surely not punish anyone for obeying his decrees.

vooks:
Where is Mary in Revelation 12?

Good, I believe you have taken my advice. But show some love, appreciate me.

Now, let me give you a clue.

Rom 12 talks about a woman who gave birth to a savior being seen in heaven. Try reading that passage and this time around don't read backwards. You hear? Good boy.

God talked through the prophets of old that a woman will conceive and give birth to a savior. Sounds strange to you. Pick up a bible and read the same way as you did above.

Well, this savior is no other than Jesus and this woman cannot be any other person other than Mary who is the mother of Jesus. Now, God has revealed this to St. John. He can do same if you ask Him.

If you are still confused after reading the passage (forward), and still feel reluctant to pray to God, drop your comments here I will address them when I come back from Christmas break.

Gob bless you abundantly and savor the truth that you have been told so far. Do well to spread this good news to all that cares to listen.

Thanks for your time.

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dmandy:
Good, I believe you have taken my advice. But show some love, appreciate me.

Now, let me give you a clue.

Rom 12 talks about a woman who gave birth to a savior being seen in heaven. Try reading that passage and this time around don't read backwards. You hear? Good boy.

God talked through the prophets of old that a woman will conceive and give birth to a savior. Sounds strange to you. Pick up a bible and read the same way as you did above.

Well, this savior is no other than Jesus and this woman cannot be any other person other than Mary who is the mother of Jesus. Now, God has revealed this to St. John. He can do same if you ask Him.

If you are still confused after reading the passage (forward), and still feel reluctant to pray to God, drop your comments here I will address them when I come back from Christmas break.

Gob bless you abundantly and savor the truth that you have been told so far. Do well to spread this good news to all that cares to listen.

Thanks for your time.

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Ok, so this woman in Revelation 12 is Mary or what?

dmandy:
I did not digress, I am still within the context of our discourse. I only wanted to show you that I agreed with your idea that Mary fed Jesus unlike most protestants I know.

You care share ANY statement to this effect or are you not simply deflecting?
So Jesus raised himself?

No, religion is not dangerous, it's people who don't understand religion that are dangerous. Look up James 1:27 to see what religion is. No religion invented Mary, try reading the bible, it helps. God chose Mary. I only believe what the scripture says and the scripture says Mary is full of grace. I know you don't like reading that part of the bible, but it is well. Embrace true religion my brother.

Religion invented PERPETUAL virginity and Sinlessness for Mary not Mary. You need more brains to play around

Mary offered a counsel (recommended a course of action) to Jesus at the wedding at Cana. I said it before and I will say it again. I did not redefine any term, you can get a dictionary, look up the meaning of the verb 'counsel'.

What counsel did Mary offer to Jesus at the wedding in Cana?

Try and quote scriptures for once. You can use Rheims your sectarian (per)version

Oh yes, necromancy is sin and God hates it. I hate it, the church hates it and every true lover of God should.

And you practice it but christen it something else

You think I deify Mary, No. I am only obeying the commandment of God. " All generations will call her blessed" and "Love your Father and your Mother".

When last did you worship your mother or father and pray them to possess you?

God need not apologize to anybody for punishing idolaters but will surely not punish anyone for obeying his decrees.

He'd apologize for inconsistency in meting punishment to necromancers while sparing some.

vooks:
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Ok, so this woman in Revelation 12 is Mary or what?

There is no or there. You don't like reading.

I said in my post that the woman in rev. 12 is Mary.

dmandy:
There is no or there. You don't like reading.

I said in my post that the woman in rev. 12 is Mary.

The woman is not called Mary, what in that vision makes you conclude that she is Mary?


Thanks

vooks:
You care share ANY statement to this effect or are you not simply deflecting?
So Jesus raised himself?


Religion invented PERPETUAL virginity and Sinlessness for Mary not Mary. You need more brains to play around


What counsel did Mary offer to Jesus at the wedding in Cana?

Try and quote scriptures for once. You can use Rheims your sectarian (per)version


And you practice it but christen it something else


When last did you worship your mother or father and pray them to possess you?


He'd apologize for inconsistency in meting punishment to necromancers while sparing some.

Lolx... and the cycle begins again but it's okay. I know it's not easy to let go of all the trash your GO has told you about Catholic church. That might mean that all your tithes and seeds are gone with the winds.

I did not digress. I will refer you to https://www.nairaland.com/2761616/does-adeboye-now-believe-canonization/7#41239655

diademsh07: ... Hence, Mary is just a human like you are! She was just favored to birth Christ like a surrogate mother who's womb was used to birth an already feterlized foetus!

No, Jesus did not raise himself. Mary and Joseph and his relatives did.

No religion invented Mary's perpetual virginity and sinlessness, the bible explained it in details.

I should try quoting bible... you don't read? Okay I will quote KJV, do you like that? Okay Jn 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Try reading the passage and see what happened later whether He listened or not? It won't take anything from you.

I will tell you what I practice... it is true religion (James 1:27)

My mum, I worship and adore her always. My dad, I am his son, his own son if you know what that means.

God need not apologize to you for anything. My God is not an author of confusion.

vooks:
The woman is not called Mary, what in that vision makes you conclude that she is Mary?


Thanks

You are welcome.

The woman is called Mary (Luke 1:27). You want to change her name?

The vision said the woman gave birth to son. If you believe that that son is Jesus, then forget the lies your GO told you. The only woman that gave birth to Jesus is Mary.

dmandy:
You are welcome.

The woman is called Mary (Luke 1:27). You want to change her name?

The vision said the woman gave birth to son. If you believe that that son is Jesus, then forget the lies your GO told you. The only woman that gave birth to Jesus is Mary.

What makes that son Jesus as nowhere are we told that son is Jesus?

dmandy:
Lolx... and the cycle begins again but it's okay. I know it's not easy to let go of all the trash your GO has told you about Catholic church. That might mean that all your tithes and seeds are gone with the winds.

I did not digress. I will refer you to https://www.nairaland.com/2761616/does-adeboye-now-believe-canonization/7#41239655

Am looking for a claim that Mary never fed Jesus and I can't find it. You made this up, right?

No, Jesus did not raise himself. Mary and Joseph and his relatives did.

I thought so and am looking for anybody who claims otherwise as you insist. I need to see these claims for myself else I will dismiss them as baseless sideshows

No religion invented Mary's perpetual virginity and sinlessness, the bible explained it in details.

If it is not too much, could you show me where the 'bible explained it in details' ?

Thank you and God bless you

I should try quoting bible... you don't read? Okay I will quote KJV, do you like that? Okay Jn 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine. Try reading the passage and see what happened later whether He listened or not? It won't take anything from you.

I have gone through John 2 and I can't find Mary counseling Jesus. Please point to me where she counseled/advised Jesus Christ. I don't want to guess but let me ask, is Mary informing Jesus that they have no wine the 'counsel'?

Mary offered a counsel (recommended a course of action) to Jesus at the wedding at Cana. I said it before and I will say it again. I did not redefine any term, you can get a dictionary, look up the meaning of the verb 'counsel'.

All I seek is Mary 'recommending a course of action to Jesus' from John 2 or anywhere seeing she is the queen mother.

Once again, thank you and God bless you.

I will tell you what I practice... it is true religion (James 1:27)

My mum, I worship and adore her always. My dad, I am his son, his own son if you know what that means.

And you pray to them to possess you?

God need not apologize to you for anything. My God is not an author of confusion.

No He is not and that's why I was sent to call you out of paganism and satanism

Revelation 14:4-5 (ESV)
Come out of her, my people,
lest you take part in her sins,
lest you share in her plagues;
5 for her sins are heaped high as heaven,
and God has remembered her iniquities.

vooks:
What makes that son Jesus as nowhere are we told that son is Jesus?

I love the way you behave now... surely the Lord is doing a marvelous work here. I am not wasting my time afterall. I hope you are still in the forward mode? Good. Now read v 5: And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. You want to know whom this son who is to rule all nations with rod of iron is? Read Psalm 2:9, still confused? Don't worry the lord will help you. Now go to, Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

You want to know who the son that was caught up to God in his throne is? Read mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Still don't get it? Let me know your confusion.

That son is Jesus.

dmandy:
I love the way you behave now... surely the Lord is doing a marvelous work here. I am not wasting my time afterall. I hope you are still in the forward mode? Good. Now read v 5: And she gave birth to a son, a male child, who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron; and her child was caught up to God and to His throne. You want to know whom this son who is to rule all nations with rod of iron is? Read Psalm 2:9, still confused? Don't worry the lord will help you. Now go to, Rev 2:27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter shall they be broken to shivers: even as I received of my Father.

You want to know who the son that was caught up to God in his throne is? Read mark 16:19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.

Still don't get it? Let me know your confusion.

That son is Jesus.

Ok.
Psalms 2:9 (ESV)
9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
and dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.”

Revelation 2:25-27 (ESV)
25 Only hold fast what you have until I come. 26 The one who conquers and who keeps my works until the end, to him I will give authority over the nations, 27 and he will rule them with a rod of iron, as when earthen pots are broken in pieces, even as I myself have received authority from my Father.

The catchphrase is 'rule the nations with an iron rod', right?
This is what IDs the woman's son as Jesus. Is this what you are saying?