neocortex:


No bird can "talk"(e.g go, come, get out) that is a fact.

If there is than a story of a "talking" bird then we know
that it is either a complete joke or an intentional lie and
the last place we would expect to see such deceitful stories is the
book that was supposedly inspired by god.

You just remind me of the legendary tortoise in African folktales,
if those story had been written down in a "book of god" many will
still have believed and even defended its veracity with all their strength.

Parrots mimic human speech

KingEbukasBlog:


Parrots mimic human speech

Mimicry and talking are wide apart,
if someone claims parrot mimic humans, no
one raises an eyebrow, but claiming parrots talks
is a magnanimous lie, unfortunately, it is the latter
approach the "holy books" took.

neocortex:


Mimicry and talking are wide apart,
if someone claims parrot mimic humans, no
one raises an eyebrow, but claiming parrots talks
is a magnanimous lie, unfortunately, it is the latter
approach the "holy books" took.

Same old . Same old

Its a mystical event .

Deal with it

winner01:
Its is a clear redline, give scientific facts that discredits the Bible.

Firstly, Which bible? There are varying compilations.

neocortex:


I would assume it is only you who have access to the "preserved" bible.

Make sense please.

Chizzled06:


Firstly, Which bible? There are varying compilations.

The one that still stands tall through centuries of scrutiny, skepticism and all sorts of attacks.

winner01:
The one that still stands tall through centuries of scrutiny, skepticism and all sorts of attacks.

But there are different Christian bibles. The bible of which sect do you refer to?

Chizzled06:


But there are different Christian bibles. The bible of which sect do you refer to?

The bible of the sect which constantly frown in the face of immorality, stands in the way of lawlessness and evil, emphasizes the kingdom of God and encourages the consciousness/fear of God.

winner01:
The bible of the sect which constantly frown in the face of immorality, stands in the way of lawlessness and evil, emphasizes the kingdom of God and encourages the consciousness/fear of God.

You're beating around the bush. There is no single canonical "Bible": many Bibles have evolved, with overlapping and diverging contents. Different Christian denominations have different bibles.Please, Which are you referring to, so that we can move on?

christians and their dumb faith, why in Bleep's name does science proove religion?

science fucking disproves religion, all the man in the video had are claims and not a single electron mass of evidence

smh

I always tell people, religion and science are trying to do the same thing - explain the universe.
only difference is one of them actually observes the universe to do so, the other just conjures stories and mythical gods.

Chizzled06:


You're beating around the bush. There is no single canonical "Bible": many Bibles have evolved, with overlapping and diverging contents. Different Christian denominations have different bibles.Please, Which are you referring to, so that we can move on?

Sir Ambrose Flemming , British electrical engineer and inventor, 1849-1945
“We must not build on the sands of an uncertain and everchanging science…but upon the rock of inspired Scriptures.”

That book is rock solid. Lies upon lies of its compromise, the rise of several demonic denominations, Similarly patterened religion and other negatives are part of the attempts to bring it down. That book should have been dead decades ago, except for a single fact, It is Gods word just like Francis Bacon said.

So dude, do your research and stop bringing up the issue of counterfeit, its a lame way of discrediting the scriptures.

Joshuabase:
christians and their dumb faith, why in Bleep's name does science proove religion?

science fucking disproves religion, all the man in the video had are claims and not a single electron mass of evidence

smh

I always tell people, religion and science are trying to do the same thing - explain the universe.
only difference is one of them actually observes the universe to do so, the other just conjures stories and mythical gods.

So what does science have to offer atheism?

winner01:
So what does science have to offer atheism?

It's obvious you're not as intelligent as you think.
Science is atheism.

Joshuabase:


It's obvious you're not as intelligent as you think.
Science is atheism.

Atheism is a scientific impossibility, you would know that if you werent so stup1d.

winner01:
Sir Ambrose Flemming , British electrical engineer and inventor, 1849-1945
“We must not build on the sands of an uncertain and everchanging science…but upon the rock of inspired Scriptures.”

That book is rock solid. Lies upon lies of its compromise, the rise of several demonic denominations, Similarly patterened religion and other negatives are part of the attempts to bring it down. That book should have been dead decades ago, except for a single fact, It is Gods word just like Francis Bacon said.

So dude, do your research and stop bringing up the issue of counterfeit, its a lame way of discrediting the scriptures.

Okay, it seems you're lost in a pool of your own ignorance already. Let me make this easier for you with a list of the most popular options. Which of these bibles do you refer to?

-The Orthodox Bible,
-The Catholic Bible or
-The Protestant Bible

winner01:

Atheism is a scientific impossibility, you would know that if you werent so stup1d.

Okay, i'll indulge your ignorance.

explain to me how atheism is a scientific impossibility - whatever that's supposed to mean.

ayoku777:
While his explanation might not be a definite proof of God, I get what he is trying to say.

The universe is the fabric of all things physical existence. The universe consists of space, time, matter and energy. It is the enclave of physical reality.

So if the universe has a beginning (according to the NASA diagram), it automatically means that there is another existence outside the physical existence (universe)

It means that there is something outside the universe (space, time, matter and energy); that pre-existed the universe (space, time, matter and energy); that created the universe (space, time, matter and energy); and controls the universe (space, time, matter and energy).

Something that pre-existed time, and doesn't dwell in time, but that created time and controls time. Same thing for space, matter and energy.

It means something exists out there outside physical reality. Something exists outside our universe (our space, time, matter and energy) where there should be "nothing". And that "nothing" is active and powerful enough to create the universe with its space, time, matter and energy.

It other words, outside the universe, outside our fabric of reality is an active, powerful and creative "nothing"

There is no scientific explanation for this other than the biblical definition of Elohim (God).

Its thought provoking actually, for those who need scientific objectivity to believe in God, or a God. But I don't even need scientific objectivity to believe in God.

Shalom.

How is bible and Elohim the better explanation for the universe? the bible that didnt know the sun doesn't revolve around the earth? or that the moon has light of its own

Joshuabase:


Okay, i'll indulge your ignorance.

explain to me how atheism is a scientific impossibility - whatever that's supposed to mean.

Every single atheist on this forum has been careful not to relate science to atheism even though they employ science in a bid to make sense and stay relevant.
I dont think i can afford the time to school you on why nothing cannot create everything. You should ask your fellow atheists why science is not equal to atheism, they'll have answers for you.

Chizzled06:


Okay, it seems you're lost in a pool of your own ignorance already. Let me make this easier for you with a list of the most popular options. Which of these bibles do you refer to?

-The Orthodox Bible,
-The Catholic Bible or
-The Protestant Bible

Ignorance lol..
Call it what you will dude.

Im talking about the Bible, the Word of God.
You know what to do when you are looking for a credible source of scientific theories, Do the same research for the Bible. You'll find what you seek.

winner01:
Every single atheist on this forum has been careful not to relate science to atheism even though they employ science in a bid to make sense and stay relevant.
I dont think i can afford the time to school you on why nothing cannot create everything. You should ask your fellow atheists why science is not equal to atheism, they'll have answers for you.

you keep trying to seem interlectually superior but reveal the flaws in your reasoning all the time,

first off - every atheist on this forum is a science enthusiast, really where in Bleep's name do you get your information??

second off nobody says "nothing is something" - that's just dumb.

the laws of quantum mechanics allow for particles to be created from "nothing", which is obviously something you don't know. But like i said earlier

joshuabase: It's obvious you're not as intelligent as you think.

Joshuabase:


you keep trying to seem interlectually superior but reveal the flaws in your reasoning all the time,

first off - every atheist on this forum is a science enthusiast, really where in Bleep's name do you get your information??

second off nobody says "nothing is something" - that's just dumb.

the laws of quantum mechanics allow for particles to be created from "nothing", which is obviously something you don't know. But like i said earlier

Atheists are irrelevant just like you are, thats why you desperately cling to science. Not only that, you also need religion to solidify your relevance. Its why you are in a religion section.

"The laws of quantum mechanics" came from nothing too.
So much gullibility.
Speak to your atheist brothers or better still, read up the comments on this thread.
Your initial claim that science equals atheism has passed you off as grossly unintelligent. I dont think i can relate with your level of reasoning.

winner01:
Atheists are irrelevant just like you are, thats why you desperately cling to science. Not only that, you also need religion to solidify your relevance. Its why you are in a religion section.

"The laws of quantum mechanics" came from nothing too.
So much gullibility.
Speak to your atheist brothers or better still, read up the comments on this thread.
Your initial claim that science equals atheism has passed you off as grossly unintelligent. I dont think i can relate with your level of reasoning.

need religion? if there was no religion everyone would be atheists.
and if even if there was an atheist section - i'd still come here to troll all the ignorant theists/supernaturalists in this section.
do you want to know why? because its fun watching dumb animals do and say stupid stuff.

winner01:
Ignorance lol..
Call it what you will dude.

Im talking about the Bible, the Word of God.
You know what to do when you are looking for a credible source of scientific theories, Do the same research for the Bible. You'll find what you seek.

Exactly. I did the same for the bible, and found out it was all balderdash.

Chizzled06:


Exactly. I did the same for the bible, and found out it was all balderdash.

I see.
Another atheist once told me El, Yahweh and Jehovah are different Gods and that i should pick the one i believe in.

Deception and lies everywhere, just anything to cover up the truth.

Whatever makes you feel good man.

Do atheists believe this?

Richirich713:
Do atheists believe this?

classic ...

what I have been saying here . Atheists mock you for having a completely rational belief that life has a creator . If atheists feel its rational to believe aliens exist due to the size of our vast universe without any compelling evidence then its rational to believe there is a creator without any "compelling evidence"

winner01:
I see.
Another atheist once told me El, Yahweh and Jehovah are different Gods and that i should pick the one i believe in.

Deception and lies everywhere, just anything to cover up the truth.

Whatever makes you feel good man.

Merry Christmas bro . Howz your holidays been ?

KingEbukaNaija:


classic ...

what I have been saying here . Atheists mock you for having a completely rational belief that life has a creator . If atheists feel its rational to believe aliens exist due to the size of our vast universe without any compelling evidence then its rational to believe there is a creator without any "compelling evidence"

completely rational belief?

sky fairies are completely rational? buhahahaha, no one can explain events that happened before the big bang - but it beats sky fairy did it.

Joshuabase:


completely rational belief?

sky fairies are completely rational? buhahahaha, no one can explain events that happened before the big bang - but it beats sky fairy did it.

Please I'm allergic to puerile assertions , reply reasonably .

Anyways , have you thought of why scientists are now developing a new theory - the universe is eternal - if the explanations of the big bang were cogent enough

Merry Christmas

KingEbukaNaija:


Please I'm allergic to puerile assertions , reply reasonably .

Anyways , have you thought of why scientists are now developing a new theory - the universe is eternal - if the explanations of the big bang were cogent enough

Merry Christmas

if anyone is developing a new theory that would be cosmologists, the term "scientists" is too broad.

secondly theories are based on observations - you make it sound like a group of people got high and came up with the big bang theory.

Joshuabase:


if anyone is developing a new theory that would be cosmologists, the term "scientists" is too broad.

secondly theories are based on observations - you make it sound like a[b] group of people got high and came up with the big bang theory[/b].

I tried delving deep into having a full knowledge of the big bang but I go stuck - its totally out of my field though . Why should I have a complete knowledge of an assumption of how our universe came about which has no explanation of its cause - its an inchoate theory . Have you ever thought of building without a plan or no foundation ? Has a teacher ever started a complex topic in school without guiding you through the rudiments ?

Then it got worse when scientists now came up with the universe is eternal theory , meaning the big bang was a mere assumption . The eternal universe asserts that there is no singularity and that it also falls in line with energy being eternal but ooppss every observation points towards the fact that the universe indeed has a beginning

winner01:
I see.
Another atheist once told me El, Yahweh and Jehovah are different Gods and that i should pick the one i believe in.

Deception and lies everywhere, just anything to cover up the truth.

Whatever makes you feel good man.

Can you tell us the meaning of El, Yahweh and Jehovah and why you feel they all refer to the same being? Do you know anything about the evolution of the Jewish beliefs from polytheism to monotheism? What do you know about the history of the Jewish religion?